MLP:FiM Megathread: Does anyone even watch this show anymore edition

[Hollycat]

Check again, I claim this post for

http://th09.deviantart.net/fs70/PRE/i/2011/129/4/a/sitting_scootaloo_by_moongazeponies-d3eq72q.png

If no one has any objections, I am going to start a new thread because this one is so huge.

[Pike]

YOU DELETING PREVIOUS POSTS DOESN'T COUNT :colbert:

[Hollycat]

New Thread
http://home.eyesonff.com/lounge/141950-friendship-magic-love-tolerance.html#post3070085

[Agent Proto]

Do we even need a new thread?

[Hollycat]

Thread be waaaaay big. That will prevent some (not many, but some) people from viewing because they haven't been in any part of the conversation up to now. Trust me, There are a lot of threads I feel that way about. It's a good practice to stop threads at 1000 posts. If you disagree, Pike can shut the new thread.

[Agent Proto]

Not many threads do get to 1,000 replies here, and those that do don't get closed for being too big. You shouldn't be the one to decide whether we can start a new thread or not. That is up to the staff to decide whether a new thread is needed. And anyone can join in the conversation at any time, they don't need to be there from the very start.

[Hollycat]

Sorry, Just going by what I've seen since I've been here. Threads that reach 1000 are usually closed

[Pike]

While I agree that this is a very large thread, we've got larger. We'll keep this one going for a while yet.

[Hollycat]

Fine, Like I said; up to the CK.

You know what this thread needs?

Scootaloo
http://th07.deviantart.net/fs70/PRE/f/2011/323/6/f/scootaloo_hug_please_by_corruptionsolid-d4gn7at.png
+Luna
http://fc01.deviantart.net/fs70/i/2011/129/9/6/princess_luna_mlp_fim_by_omg_chibi-d3fz86e.png
is equal to
http://fc06.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2011/251/a/7/scootaluna_g3_by_doublevtovka22-d498qzx.png Scootaluna.

[Pike]

Scootaluna?

[Laddy]

Win. But we all know Rarity is best pony. ;D

[Hollycat]

Scootaluna?
Scootaluna.

[Agent Proto]

Princess Luna and Pipsqueak OTP, amirite?

http://28.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lti487yDVx1qeuz19o1_500.jpg

[Hollycat]

I wouldn't be shocked to see another luna episode with pip featured heavily.

[theundeadhero]

Lunaloo.

Also, Scootaloo is at least 10% cooler than the other CMCs.

[Hollycat]

each.

[GhandiOwnsYou]

Stalkerloo is best Scootaloo.

Ask Stalkerloo (http://askstalkerloo.tumblr.com/)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v332/GhandiOwnsYou/65db3d13.jpg

[NorthernChaosGod]

Crackle is best pony after Fluttershy.
http://i44.:bou::bou::bou::bou::bou::bou::bou::bou::bou::bou::bou::bou:/2d9z8mc.jpg

[MJN SEIFER]

http://th07.deviantart.net/fs70/PRE/f/2011/323/6/f/scootaloo_hug_please_by_corruptionsolid-d4gn7at.png My reaction. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BVYlp3WiSGM&list=PL5A0CE5A38D4B223A&index=31&feature=plpp_video)

Also you've all probably seen this (http://veggie55.deviantart.com/art/Number-1-Fan-261403457) but just in case I will show it to you, the sequel is in the descriptions.

[NorthernChaosGod]

Namby Pamby what now? (http://funnyjunk.com/channel/ponytime/Namby+Pamby+what+now/hylGGul/)

I knew I wasn't the only one who thought of this.

[MJN SEIFER]

Just wondering, did we go over how we all discovered the show or not? I can't remember.

[Hollycat]

Yes, but we can again and I don't think anyone would mind.

[Madame Adequate]

I decided to watch a couple of eps just so I could better troll bronies.

Yeah, that backfired.

[MJN SEIFER]

Yes, but we can again and I don't think anyone would mind. Thanks, I'll add mine...

Long Version (http://mlp.wikia.com/wiki/User:MJNSEIFER)
I saw an episode, thought it was an Internet Only thing, realized it wasn't after I realized I loved it, and realized I loved it before discovering that it had a fan following. More detail in the long version.

I decided to watch a couple of eps just so I could better troll bronies.

Yeah, that backfired. Ha-ha.:p

[Pike]

I have liked My Little Pony since I was a wee little girl and watched the original 80s version. It was one of the very, very few stereotypically girly things I ever liked. Probably because there were a lot of evil monsters and some really catchy songs.

When it first started to show up at 4chan, I thought it was odd, but appreciated the art style of it. I picked a random episode to watch (Feeling Pinkie Keen, which had just aired and so was the first one I could find), and thought it was cute, but I still didn't get how anyone could turn it into an obsession so I mostly forgot about it, and trolled bronies as I came across them because I just like trolling in general. :tongue:

Finally Hux watched it and really fell in love with it so I promptly decided to give it another shot. This time it grew on me quickly and here I am!

Edit: Pretty sure my brother was the original brony; he had a MLP themed birthday party when he turned five, which would've been in... 1991.

[MJN SEIFER]

Kind of funny how two of the answer have been from those who previously trolled and became fans. This show really does have something if it can do that.:cool:

[NorthernChaosGod]

Ponies! :squee:

http://i43.:bou::bou::bou::bou::bou::bou::bou::bou::bou::bou::bou::bou:/otfax5.jpg

[theundeadhero]

I've managed to get rainbow dash, fluttershy, and twilight sparkle. I need pinkie pie now.

[Pike]

I am so jealous you guys :( All the blind bags around here are gone already

[NorthernChaosGod]

I am so jealous you guys :( All the blind bags around here are gone already
Mine are from McDonald's. I haven't actually gone around to trying to get ponies from a store yet.

[Hollycat]

All I wanted was rainbow from a mcdonalds or a blind bag, they are sold out everywhere.

[Pike]

Looks like I'm going to McDonalds later then :plotting:

[Hollycat]

Hey guys, I have a secret for you.
Only for people who want blind bags.

My Little Pony Collectible Ponies Set - Hasbro - Toys "R" Us (http://www.toysrus.com/product/index.jsp?productId=11872842)Have a good time.

[NeoCracker]

I always find the Hasbro toys look like shit. :p

[Hollycat]

Update:

There is a logical reason for men liking ponies, the creator of the show is the creator of both Powerpuff Girls and Fosters Home for Imaginary Friends, which our generation grew up with. Thus My generation= loves ponies.

Ditzy Doo and Derpy Hooves are not the same pony, for some reason, many fail to notice that a pony that has the same cutie mark but different hair than Derpy appears with the birds in Winter Wrapup, Due to previous conversations, it can be assumed that this is Ditzy. Due to not only being a recolor of Derpy but also having the same cutie mark, it can be assumed they have very similar personalities and are most likely twins.

More later!

[MJN SEIFER]

Hey guys, I have a secret for you.
Only for people who want blind bags.

My Little Pony Collectible Ponies Set - Hasbro - Toys "R" Us (http://www.toysrus.com/product/index.jsp?productId=11872842)Have a good time. Those actually look pretty good to be honest. If they're Hasbro it's probably the most accurate they've done so far. Part of me thinks that they'ed be good to buy...
Update:

There is a logical reason for men liking ponies, the creator of the show is the creator of both Powerpuff Girls and Fosters Home for Imaginary Friends, which our generation grew up with. Thus My generation= loves ponies.

Ditzy Doo and Derpy Hooves are not the same pony, for some reason, many fail to notice that a pony that has the same cutie mark but different hair than Derpy appears with the birds in Winter Wrapup, Due to previous conversations, it can be assumed that this is Ditzy. Due to not only being a recolor of Derpy but also having the same cutie mark, it can be assumed they have very similar personalities and are most likely twins.

More later! Lauren did not create PPG and Fosters actually, she is however married to the guy who did, and she did, and for some reason people have confused the issue. She did...something on both shows, but she didn't create them. Also, I personally don't find either of those shows similar to Friendship is Magic at all. No offense.

That's an interesting point about Derpy and Ditzy. I'll have a look at Winter Wrap Up to see if I can find what you mean. Thanks for the heads up. No disrespect about the PPG thing.

[Hollycat]

Hey guys, I have a secret for you.
Only for people who want blind bags.

My Little Pony Collectible Ponies Set - Hasbro - Toys "R" Us (http://www.toysrus.com/product/index.jsp?productId=11872842)Have a good time. Those actually look pretty good to be honest. If they're Hasbro it's probably the most accurate they've done so far. Part of me thinks that they'ed be good to buy...
Update:

There is a logical reason for men liking ponies, the creator of the show is the creator of both Powerpuff Girls and Fosters Home for Imaginary Friends, which our generation grew up with. Thus My generation= loves ponies.

Ditzy Doo and Derpy Hooves are not the same pony, for some reason, many fail to notice that a pony that has the same cutie mark but different hair than Derpy appears with the birds in Winter Wrapup, Due to previous conversations, it can be assumed that this is Ditzy. Due to not only being a recolor of Derpy but also having the same cutie mark, it can be assumed they have very similar personalities and are most likely twins.

More later! Lauren did not create PPG and Fosters actually, she is however married to the guy who did, and she did, and for some reason people have confused the issue. She did...something on both shows, but she didn't create them. Also, I personally don't find either of those shows similar to Friendship is Magic at all. No offense.

That's an interesting point about Derpy and Ditzy. I'll have a look at Winter Wrap Up to see if I can find what you mean. Thanks for the heads up.
Thanks for the heads up on Lauren!

[Pike]

Guys there is a McDonalds down the street from where I live so I went there and ordered a Happy Meal

BAM

https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/553218_10150691941622332_516212331_9440752_1620630765_n.jpg

[GhandiOwnsYou]

I have eaten roughly a dozen happy meals over the last couple weeks. Worth it, Mane6 complete.

Also, the collectible pony set appears to be a collection of the blindbag figurines. All the molds look the same as the wave 1 blindbags, including the rage inducing Fluttershy thats just a Dash recolor. Apparently Rarity gets her own mold with flowing locks, but Fluttershy gets a crew cut instead...

As far as how I started watching the show... Boredom and curiosity I guess. I was in Afghanistan for the first year or so, when the show was gaining steam. Limited internet access kinda kept me from following what was going on in net culture. Case in point, it was only about 4 months ago that my wife showed me the "double rainbow" video. She was flabbergasted that I had no idea what it was. Anyway, I came back home and ponies, ponies everywhere. Eventually I had a long weekend and nothing going on and figured I'd see what all the fuss was about, so I found a torrent for season 1.

[Værn]

I have Rarity and Pinkie Pie, and one of my friends said he had an extra Twilight and Fluttershy for me. Now I just need to meet up with him and then get Applejack and Rainbow Dash to finish the Mane Six :love:

[theundeadhero]

Mine were from McDonalds too. I've had seven happy meals so far. About to go make it eight.


^

I now have Applejack.

[NeoCracker]

Guys there is a McDonalds down the street from where I live so I went there and ordered a Happy Meal

BAM

https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/553218_10150691941622332_516212331_9440752_1620630765_n.jpg

That looks way better then the Hasbrow Fluttershy. XD

Edit: Also, what the smurf internet?

http://i1171.photobucket.com/albums/r551/MylittleProject/Group/3341-applejackbig_macintoshbondagecomicrainbow_dash.jpg

[GhandiOwnsYou]

Guys there is a McDonalds down the street from where I live so I went there and ordered a Happy Meal

BAM

https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/553218_10150691941622332_516212331_9440752_1620630765_n.jpg

That looks way better then the Hasbrow Fluttershy. XD

Edit: Also, what the smurf internet?

http://i1171.photobucket.com/albums/r551/MylittleProject/Group/3341-applejackbig_macintoshbondagecomicrainbow_dash.jpg


A Long Hard Day of Training 1 by ~FicFicPonyFic on deviantART (http://ficficponyfic.deviantart.com/art/A-Long-Hard-Day-of-Training-1-269616456?q=gallery%3Aficficponyfic%2F28960224&qo=29)
Immediately made me think of this... Less blatant, way more innuendo.

[Agent Proto]

Derpy Crackle 2012 (http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-XzLpwpavZM0/T2z77sU3t-I/AAAAAAAAjpI/kRIJIj4sfDs/s1600/570_mlp_ultimate_derp_by_silverlegends-d4tmssk.jpg)

[MJN SEIFER]

Thanks for the heads up on Lauren! You're welcome.


Guys there is a McDonalds down the street from where I live so I went there and ordered a Happy Meal

BAM

https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/553218_10150691941622332_516212331_9440752_1620630765_n.jpg Awwww.


I have eaten roughly a dozen happy meals over the last couple weeks. Worth it, Mane6 complete.
Did you have to ask for ponies? When I was growing up, everytime My Little Pony in any shape or form appeared in Mcdonalds it was part of the boy/girl Happy Meals, and the girls would get ponies, and the boys would get something like Action Man or toy cars or something. Is it just ponies now, or did you ask for them. Also thanks for saying how you got into the show. :)

[Hollycat]

It is boy/girl.

[MJN SEIFER]

So do you guys actually ask for them?

[NorthernChaosGod]

Totally, how else would I get them?

-Drive up
-Order food
-"Which My Little Pony toys do you have?"
-Buy them

There's actually a cute girl that works the drive-thru. I think she gave me a knowing smile last time I went.

[Hollycat]

Yes. But if you are afraid of being ridiculed, don't say the pony you want by name, say "the blue pony" So they think you don't know the name. Pretend your sisters birthday is coming up and she wants ponies for her birthday.

HC's Advice column.

[Pike]

I didn't ask for a specific one when I went in, I just asked for a "girls happy meal" and was pleasantly surprised!

I'll tell you what though, there was a guy in front of me in his mid-twenties or so who was very nicely dressed and similarly asked for a girls' happy meal. After he got it I saw him pull the pony toy out with a big ol' grin on his face as he walked out the door.

[theundeadhero]

I walk inside and ask for a girls cheeseburger happy meal, without pickles.

[NorthernChaosGod]

I just buy my toys separately. I'd ask for the ponies by name if I thought the employees would know them.

All the fucks I give ----->

[GhandiOwnsYou]

My method was to ask for three at a time, and specify "make sure there are different toys so my girls don't riot when I get home."

This results seems to result in a 12 piece nugget, medium fries, and large coke + 3 ponies once turned into one meal.

[Pike]

My method was to ask for three at a time, and specify "make sure there are different toys so my girls don't riot when I get home."

This results seems to result in a 12 piece nugget, medium fries, and large coke + 3 ponies once turned into one meal.

This is a pretty great method.

[NeoCracker]

http://i1171.photobucket.com/albums/r551/MylittleProject/GIF/132814399371.gif

[MJN SEIFER]

I just got through watching the latest awwwww-some episode. More on that later. :)

[NeoCracker]

http://i1171.photobucket.com/albums/r551/MylittleProject/GIF/7762_animated_fluttershy_yay_display.gif

Though complete absence of most Ponies is kind of sad, but eh, what can you do.

Also...


I just buy my toys separately. I'd ask for the ponies by name if I thought the employees would know them.

All the fucks I give ----->

http://i1171.photobucket.com/albums/r551/MylittleProject/Applejack/132640446534-Copy.jpg

[Madame Adequate]

One of my favorite episodes of the season right there!

[NeoCracker]

I need to get a screen of the giant Roided pony with the tiny wings. XD

We need a run of episodes starring DJ PON3, Pip, Luna, Big Macintosh, the Time Lord, and Beefy.

[Agent Proto]

I need to get a screen of the giant Roided pony with the tiny wings. XD

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-298TIeZQeAA/T26gLglLo5I/AAAAAAAAC5Y/Ci-TAGTMpLE/s1600/Capture.PNG

OH YEAAAAHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!

[NeoCracker]

I love that guy. <3

[NorthernChaosGod]

Roid Rage is awesome.

[MJN SEIFER]

Okay everyone, for those who are interested, here is my opinion on the episode Hurricane Fluttershy.

In my honest opinion this was possibly the best Fluttershy episode yet. She may be my favorite pony, but her episodes never really scored that high for me (the last one that did being Dragonshy and there's plenty of episodes I liked better than that one). This episode is definitely better than Putting Your Hoof Down, where Fluttershy's (forced) assertiveness came from everypony (and one bunny) being complete a-holes for no reason, here she was coping with a personal problem from when she was younger, and one that had been hinted at in Season 1 - great continuity.

The episode also seemed to be a tribute to season 1 at times, with the tree disguise, the high pitched "Fluttershy" from episode 1 and A Bird in the Hoof. The whole episode just seemed really well written and in tune with the show. I'm going to go out a limb and say that the writers were having an "off day" withPutting Your Hoof Down. Another bonus is that we got to see two of them as fillies again, which just looked really aww, and made me think of what may be my favorite episode ever.

Yeah, I know not everypony was used, but this was basically the story where using all of them would be over kill. It could work either way, but all in all a beautiful episode.

[GhandiOwnsYou]

Does anyone else find it hilarious that Roid Rage has tiny wings? Kinda lends support to the whole wingboner thing...

Also
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v332/GhandiOwnsYou/my-little-pony-friendship-is-magic-brony-scumbag-spitfire.png

[Hollycat]

Who wants to buy a blind bag? $2.00 plus shipping!

[Pike]

Does anyone else find it hilarious that Roid Rage has tiny wings? Kinda lends support to the whole wingboner thing...

Also
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v332/GhandiOwnsYou/my-little-pony-friendship-is-magic-brony-scumbag-spitfire.png

SERIOUSLY, THIS TIMES A HUNDRED

Hux and I watched the episode together and we were both "wtf, why isn't Spitfire helping" xD

[GhandiOwnsYou]

Does anyone else find it hilarious that Roid Rage has tiny wings? Kinda lends support to the whole wingboner thing...

Also
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v332/GhandiOwnsYou/my-little-pony-friendship-is-magic-brony-scumbag-spitfire.png

SERIOUSLY, THIS TIMES A HUNDRED

Hux and I watched the episode together and we were both "wtf, why isn't Spitfire helping" xD

Yeah. It woulda have made sense if they were going for the record, but once the first one fell apart and sent pegasi flying like shrapnel... I'd like to hear the explanation. "Well, I mean, I know that these Pegasi are in horrific danger, flying in an unstable funnel cloud and all. Not to mention that Cloudsdale only does this once a year, and that if they don't succeed here then lack of water supply will prevent cloud production, therefore dooming Equestria as a whole to drought and therefore starvation. But I worked my way up the chain, I earned my spot as a supervisor dammit."

Oh Spitty, why?

As a second point, was I the only one utterly convinced that Fluttershy was going to roll in with about ten thousand birds and butterflies to add wing power? I would have put money on that 20 minutes into the episode.

[NeoCracker]

Birds and butterflys could in no way handle the force of the hurricane. Except exceptionally large birds. :p

And didn't you know? Spitfire is a dick.

One other thing I really liked about the episode though was how quickly Rainbow Dash became worried more about picking up Fluttershy's spirits then about getting her to help.

[Yeargdribble]

The Spitfire thing kinda made it feel like Fluttershy's small addition to get too 800 was irrelevant. Spitfire could've easily put them over the top without a problem once they were no longer trying to break a record. Still, I tried to ignore that. I love Fluttershy episodes and was sad at the lack of them this season, but they've tried to make up for lost time a good deal here recently and this one was great. Fluttershy has some of the best overcoming adversity bits.

On the toy front... out of 4 happy meals, I've gotten 2 RD and 2 Cherilee. I think the next time my wife and I go we'll try to trade in our duplicates.

Just out of curiosity, for those who bought the toys separately, how much did they charge you?

[NeoCracker]

Time to get Nitpicky! :D

They fell short on their first attempt by 50WP, clocking out at 750.

They were short 8 ponies.

Without those ponies Rainbow Dash figured they would have had a tough time making the 800. Prior to this, however, Rainbow dash was confident they could reach the 100 mark. Just how much work did he expect those 8 ponies to do?
If you are only taking into account the 50WP they were short, those 8 needed to average a 6.25WP. But the sick one is the one that clocked in 8 the first attempt. Lets say then that he improved to 10, the number Rainbow said they all needed to be at to break the record. Since, again, he clocked in at 8, and even fluttershy managed to improve her speed by 2 points without even putting the same amount of training in as the others, I think it's a safe assumtion he would have been up to 10. That means the other 7 were at an average of 6WMP.

If we take into account the full 150 to get to the full 1000, they would have to be averaging 18WMP between the 8 of them. It would require every last one of them to have achieved a higher WP then equestria's fastest Flier, Rainbow Dash who clocked in at 16.

Rainbow Dash may be headstrong, but this is far to unrealistic an expectation for her to have had. That and I doubt she'd expect that many ponies to have match her speed, none the less surpass it. The numbers make virtually no sense in context of whats going on.

However, I did figure something pretty funny. Rainbow stated if all of the Pegasi, (Since it seemed all Pegasus were to contribute to the Hurricane), needed to reach a WP of 10 or greater, doing so would allow them to break the record. Ignoring the sillyness of expecting some of these guys to double their speed in such a short time (Since the first pony to test their WP clocked in 5) we can figure out the approximate number of grown Pegasus in Cloudsdale/Ponyville. First off, we subtract Rainbow dash's speed of 16, giving us 984. At 10WP a pony, we have 98.4, or rather 99 ponies other then Rainbow Dash. So including Rainbow back in, we have approximately 100 Pegasus living in the area, not counting smaller ones.

[Hollycat]

Time to get Nitpicky! :D

They fell short on their first attempt by 50WP, clocking out at 750.

They were short 8 ponies.

Without those ponies Rainbow Dash figured they would have had a tough time making the 800. Prior to this, however, Rainbow dash was confident they could reach the 100 mark. Just how much work did he expect those 8 ponies to do?
If you are only taking into account the 50WP they were short, those 8 needed to average a 6.25WP. But the sick one is the one that clocked in 8 the first attempt. Lets say then that he improved to 10, the number Rainbow said they all needed to be at to break the record. Since, again, he clocked in at 8, and even fluttershy managed to improve her speed by 2 points without even putting the same amount of training in as the others, I think it's a safe assumtion he would have been up to 10. That means the other 7 were at an average of 6WMP.

If we take into account the full 150 to get to the full 1000, they would have to be averaging 18WMP between the 8 of them. It would require every last one of them to have achieved a higher WP then equestria's fastest Flier, Rainbow Dash who clocked in at 16.

Rainbow Dash may be headstrong, but this is far to unrealistic an expectation for her to have had. That and I doubt she'd expect that many ponies to have match her speed, none the less surpass it. The numbers make virtually no sense in context of whats going on.

However, I did figure something pretty funny. Rainbow stated if all of the Pegasi, (Since it seemed all Pegasus were to contribute to the Hurricane), needed to reach a WP of 10 or greater, doing so would allow them to break the record. Ignoring the sillyness of expecting some of these guys to double their speed in such a short time (Since the first pony to test their WP clocked in 5) we can figure out the approximate number of grown Pegasus in Cloudsdale/Ponyville. First off, we subtract Rainbow dash's speed of 16, giving us 984. At 10WP a pony, we have 98.4, or rather 99 ponies other then Rainbow Dash. So including Rainbow back in, we have approximately 100 Pegasus living in the area, not counting smaller ones.
I noticed this too, very funny no?

[MJN SEIFER]

One other thing I really liked about the episode though was how quickly Rainbow Dash became worried more about picking up Fluttershy's spirits then about getting her to help. That's something I really liked too. I was both hoping, and expecting them to do that. :love:

[GhandiOwnsYou]

Time to get Nitpicky! :D

They fell short on their first attempt by 50WP, clocking out at 750.

They were short 8 ponies.

Without those ponies Rainbow Dash figured they would have had a tough time making the 800. Prior to this, however, Rainbow dash was confident they could reach the 100 mark. Just how much work did he expect those 8 ponies to do?
If you are only taking into account the 50WP they were short, those 8 needed to average a 6.25WP. But the sick one is the one that clocked in 8 the first attempt. Lets say then that he improved to 10, the number Rainbow said they all needed to be at to break the record. Since, again, he clocked in at 8, and even fluttershy managed to improve her speed by 2 points without even putting the same amount of training in as the others, I think it's a safe assumtion he would have been up to 10. That means the other 7 were at an average of 6WMP.

If we take into account the full 150 to get to the full 1000, they would have to be averaging 18WMP between the 8 of them. It would require every last one of them to have achieved a higher WP then equestria's fastest Flier, Rainbow Dash who clocked in at 16.

Rainbow Dash may be headstrong, but this is far to unrealistic an expectation for her to have had. That and I doubt she'd expect that many ponies to have match her speed, none the less surpass it. The numbers make virtually no sense in context of whats going on.

However, I did figure something pretty funny. Rainbow stated if all of the Pegasi, (Since it seemed all Pegasus were to contribute to the Hurricane), needed to reach a WP of 10 or greater, doing so would allow them to break the record. Ignoring the sillyness of expecting some of these guys to double their speed in such a short time (Since the first pony to test their WP clocked in 5) we can figure out the approximate number of grown Pegasus in Cloudsdale/Ponyville. First off, we subtract Rainbow dash's speed of 16, giving us 984. At 10WP a pony, we have 98.4, or rather 99 ponies other then Rainbow Dash. So including Rainbow back in, we have approximately 100 Pegasus living in the area, not counting smaller ones.
I noticed this too, very funny no?


Perhaps we're looking at the math incorrectly. We're assuming here that 2 ponies at 10 WP will give a cumulative total of 20 wing power, when that may not be true. Maybe airflow patterns or particular formations allow the pegasi to increase the final WP beyond the sum of the individual Pegasi's measurements? Maybe the second pony is able to utilize the current from the first pony's contrail to increase their output, as the air is already motion after the lead pony. Or for that matter, Once the tornado itself starts going it stands to reason that since keeping the momentum of a rotation going is easier than pushing in a linear path that they could increase the efficiency of the formation as the tornado built up. This is of course assuming that WP was more a measurement of overall air movement rather than a measurement of force output. I assume this is the case because the method of Twilights measurements appeared to be based solely on air movement rather than something factoring in the weight of a pony or overall work performed by any given pony. It looked like it was only taking into account airspeed/flow.

What we need here is some of Macintosh's fancy mathematics...

[Hollycat]

Nope, I'm pretty sure it's cumulative or Fluttershy wouldn't have been freaking out about 5 wing power.

BTW, was anyone else half expecting fluttershy to end up being as fast as rainbow dash or possibly even more so. Also, what would rainbow dash's wing bower be during a sonic rainboom?

[NorthernChaosGod]

I definitely didn't expect Fluttershy to get anywhere near Rainbow Dash's speed/wingpower. That would be just way too deus ex machina for the show.


As a second point, was I the only one utterly convinced that Fluttershy was going to roll in with about ten thousand birds and butterflies to add wing power? I would have put money on that 20 minutes into the episode.
I totally thought that's what would happen.


Just out of curiosity, for those who bought the toys separately, how much did they charge you?

$0.99 each, plus tax.

[Værn]

You people and your math :colbert:
Based on the episode title I was expecting Fluttershy to go to Twilight or Zecora for help improving her wingpower, resulting in a spell or potion gone horribly awry.
Also, didn't Fluttershy catch Rainbow Dash while dragging a hot air balloon and the rest of the mane six behind her during The Return of Harmony?

[MJN SEIFER]

Yes she did. I guess it's a sort of "If you're determined for the right reasons" thing. I think it's also that she has the skills, but doesn't believe herself or something?

[NeoCracker]

Raindbow Dash was also being dragged down by Rarity and Pinkie Pie at the time, and I would assume Rainbow can't go near full speed lugging around her own wait as well as two other ponies.

[Hollycat]

http://chzbronies.files.wordpress.com/2012/03/my-little-pony-friendship-is-magic-brony-fire-the-twilight-gun.gif
Firin mah Twilight!

[GhandiOwnsYou]

http://chzbronies.files.wordpress.com/2012/03/my-little-pony-friendship-is-magic-brony-fire-the-twilight-gun.gif
Firin mah Twilight!

Gatling Pony is best automatic weapon.

edit: and I give you like a day and a half before someone has modded this into some FPS.

[Hollycat]

Some of my friends are already working on a Fallout 3 mod.

[NorthernChaosGod]

How do people keep getting stuff from upcoming episodes? o_O

[GhandiOwnsYou]

Smart money's on EquestriaDaily.com They've apparently become a large enough force in the community to have garnered attention from Hasbro and DHX media directly. A couple of times lately they've grabbed grainy or poor quality teaser videos only to be contacted be Hasbro soon after and given a HQ link. Basically, Hasbro loves Bronies and wants us to have some fan service.

[Hollycat]

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And last but not least
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[MJN SEIFER]

The Crash picture was the best one in my opinion.

It's funny how the meme about Derpy loving muffins comes from a line in an episode, and yet it wasn't even Derpy who said the line (though I know why eveyone thought it was).

[Hollycat]

I wish someone would actually make that game.
EDIT:
Actually, Derring Do fits the genre better, I honestly hope Hasbro makes a platforming Derring Do game.

[MJN SEIFER]

I'd play it.

I'd also play Fighting is Magic, but I guess it's vaporware now. :(

[GhandiOwnsYou]

I'd play it.

I'd also play Fighting is Magic, but I guess it's vaporware now. :(

Eh? When did this get thrown in as Vaporware? They just released a new video a few days ago on their YouTube channel. Sure as hell hope you're wrong abut this, I was pretty stoked for it.

Equestria Online appears to be vaporware though. Apparently infighting having something to do with the project lead wanting to retain all rights rather than allow his cohorts to retain rights to the specific chunks they worked on. Team split into EquestriaOnline (headed by original project lead Raindrop) and the newly formed Legends of Equestria (featuring most of the old EO crew and using most of the assets designed by that crew for EO.)

[Agent Proto]

I just got myself Applejack. :bigsmile:

[GhandiOwnsYou]

I just got myself Applejack. :bigsmile:


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[NeoCracker]

http://i1171.photobucket.com/albums/r551/MylittleProject/Applejack/132617555623.jpg

[MJN SEIFER]

I'd play it.

I'd also play Fighting is Magic, but I guess it's vaporware now. :(

Eh? When did this get thrown in as Vaporware? They just released a new video a few days ago on their YouTube channel. Sure as hell hope you're wrong abut this, I was pretty stoked for it. Wow, really?! I'll have check on that, I just never heard anything of it until now, so I assumed it was ended. I guess I jumped the gun on this one. Thankfully. What system is it on anyway?

To Hypo: Yes, a Daring game would be pretty cool.

[Hollycat]

Don't you wish this was real?
http://chzbronies.files.wordpress.com/2012/03/my-little-pony-friendship-is-magic-brony-as-if-waiting-for-the-new-season-wasnt-going-to-be-agonizing-enough-already.jpg
Discussion?
Please?

When I first saw the above picture, I was so overwhelmed with joy that My skipped a beat! And then I realised the truth. If only. If only.

[theundeadhero]

The filly is "Dinky Hooves - Derpy's daughter". She's been in a few episodes but I'm not sure if that's the only one where she had derpy eyes.

[GhandiOwnsYou]

I'd play it.

I'd also play Fighting is Magic, but I guess it's vaporware now. :(

Eh? When did this get thrown in as Vaporware? They just released a new video a few days ago on their YouTube channel. Sure as hell hope you're wrong abut this, I was pretty stoked for it. Wow, really?! I'll have check on that, I just never heard anything of it until now, so I assumed it was ended. I guess I jumped the gun on this one. Thankfully. What system is it on anyway?

To Hypo: Yes, a Daring game would be pretty cool.

Fighting is Magic is a PC game, while it's not officially supported, supposedly one of their guys is working on getting it running on OSX as well. I believe EquestriaOnline was supposed to be Mac and PC, which would lead me to believe that the Legends of Equestria crew will go the same route, considering they're using EO assets.

www.legendsofequestria.com (http://www.legendsofequestria.com/)
Mane6 - MLP: Fighting is Magic (http://www.mane6.com/)

[Hollycat]

Thought you guys might enjoy this one.

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[NeoCracker]

Time for some Hipsters.


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[GhandiOwnsYou]

Thought you guys might enjoy this one.

oQl4JhnhBEA


I'm on board with anything featuring yelling Sweetie Bell.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v332/GhandiOwnsYou/130856000524.gif

[Hollycat]

By the way, has anyone seen a really good pinkie pie face in sneaky costume I can use as an avatar (perhaps a resize) I would really appreciate it. Especially if it was one with blank background so it will just be pinkie on the forum.
for what I mean by blank, see my signature.

[NeoCracker]

http://i1171.photobucket.com/albums/r551/MylittleProject/Vynil%20Scratch%20And%20Trixie%20Plus%20Photo%20Finish/132961992817.png

[theundeadhero]

I never managed to get a Pinky Pie McDonalds toy. Anybody want to trade one for Applejack, Twilight Sparkle, or Cheerliee?

[Pike]

Is the McDonalds thing over? I heard it is but I haven't checked yet.

[Hollycat]

I'll trade a twi or applejack for a rainbowdash.
Also I'll trade a blind bag (after I open it to make sure it isn't rainbow dash) for a rainbow dash.

[NorthernChaosGod]

Hypo, the blind bags are numbered. o_O

[Hollycat]

I could not find a single number that was different on any of them.

[GhandiOwnsYou]

It's not the ones on the bottom, It's near the hole for the hangers at the top.

[Hollycat]

I did not know that. Anyone want to send me a rainbow?

[MJN SEIFER]

I'll keep a look out for the Pinkie avatar, Hypo. Dunno when I'll find it though.

Also, for those who are interested, I am currently practicing drawing the ponies, and it's gonna take some practice I can tell you. It took me forever just to get the horn right, and the eyes don't look like eyes yet in my opinion, and one her (I think) hind legs keeps coming out wrong, and I think I've errased so many mistakes it's unsavable :(, but I am just going to keep practicing - I'll keep doing better drawings on after the other if I have to.:cool:

[NorthernChaosGod]

I could not find a single number that was different on any of them.

Equestria Daily: Blind Bags Are Identifiable. (http://www.equestriadaily.com/2011/05/blind-bags-are-identifiable.html)

[Hollycat]

I wonder about the ugly toy lily blossom (I think that's right) she was in both mcdonalds and blindbags, which makes me think she is going to be a very important pony at some point.

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[NeoCracker]

I will say this is probably the worst episode of the season.

1) I don't like the CMC anyway.
2) It seemed out of character for any of the main six to be so in support of a gossip collum such as this. Especially Rarity, who is in a line of work that tends to have bad gossip about it.
3) They never seem to make a distinction between gossip and stories about people.
4) No way in hell anyone is going to be interested in a schools gossip coll um.

There were a couple saving graces to this episode, the best one being 'et tu sweetie belle?'. Lost my shit on that line.

[Agent Proto]

I have to agree with Neo on this latest episode. Not the best episode for this season.

[Hollycat]

It made me ashamed of scootaloo for the first time. Also they made Fluttershy cry.

[[M] Mom – Host]

Aww :(

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[NeoCracker]

Fluttershy having tail extensions did amuse me though.

Though the Idea that it is something even worth being embarrassed that other people find it out silly.

[Hollycat]

Opened my last blindbag a little while ago.

suddenly
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Not sure how to feel about this. On the one hand, it has an accurate cutie mark, and the correct coloring. On the other hand, it does not resemble fluttershy. On the original hand, it's Fluttershy.

[MJN SEIFER]

That Dr Who animation was excelent :)

Also, new episode. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ci0czN7WbXk) I think I enjoyed this one too, so it looks like this show can deliver the goods for the most part. I detected an error at the end - look for me in the comments to discover what...

EDIT: Oh sorry, a lot of posts came up while I was uploading this reply, sorry guys. Still liked it to some extent though.

[Shlup_has_burger_nips]

So what, do you guys have ass burgers then? Mine ended up on my chest.

[Shlup_has_burger_nips]

Not sure how to feel about this. On the one hand, it has an accurate cutie mark, and the correct coloring. On the other hand, it does not resemble fluttershy. On the original hand, it's Fluttershy.

A tingling in my nipples suggests that this is a contradictory statement! IS IT FLUTTERSHY, OR IS IT NOT.

[MJN SEIFER]

3) They never seem to make a distinction between gossip and stories about people. I think they kind of did, but they didn't force it on us. If that makes sense. I do agree on point 4 though, but I guess they just needed to go along with that to make the episode work (they could have made it so they older ponies don't realize it's a school paper, or something) and probably 2 as well.

Like I say, I did enjoy this episode, but mostly for the humor and the references Not the best CMC episode, but not the worst in my mind either.

[NeoCracker]

3) They never seem to make a distinction between gossip and stories about people. I think they kind of did, but they didn't force it on us. If that makes sense. I do agree on point 4 though, but I guess they just needed to go along with that to make the episode work (they could have made it so they older ponies don't realize it's a school paper, or something) and probably 2 as well.

Like I say, I did enjoy this episode, but mostly for the humor and the references Not the best CMC episode, but not the worst in my mind either.

The one pony who was running it, however, made it clear she wanted more stuff like the gum thing that was their first issue.

I'm not talking like the story they wanted to do on spike that got rejected, but just random stories about things people had done in public eye. There is a big difference in publishing a story about kids acting up in a store, and publishing someones diary entries. This episode tried to make them sound like the same thing.

[Hollycat]

Add diamond Tiara to a list of ponies I don't like.

[Jiro]

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[GhandiOwnsYou]

Diamond Tiara serves no purpose except to be disliked.

I dunno, I'm gonna have to buck the trend and say I thought this episode was pretty awesome. The lesson was vague and muddled, I'll openly support that complaint. The moral itself was a little off because they never went into the difference between gossip, news and invasion of privacy. For me though, the moment to moment one liners, facial expressions and wtf moments totally made up for any shortcomings. Big Mac and Applejack swapping speech patterns when they got pissed was classic. Celestia stuffing her face? Rarity's several violent declarations? Twilight throwing up a forcefield out of spite? Poor little Scoots only able to hover her flank? It was pretty much wall to wall hilarity for me.

[NeoCracker]

I agree with some of those, but I disagree with Big Mac. It was pretty funny when AJ was just doing the 'Eyup' thing, and while I awaited Big Mac, it just felt awkward coming from him. It was no where near up to snuff with his other long dialogue with AJ for the whole Applebuck season thing.

The force-field was entertaining though. :p

[Pike]

I effing loved this episode. I just could not stop laughing. Also I kept expecting Diamond Tiara to go "I WANT PICTURES. PICTURES OF SPIDERMAN!"

[MJN SEIFER]

The one pony who was running it, however, made it clear she wanted more stuff like the gum thing that was their first issue.

I'm not talking like the story they wanted to do on spike that got rejected, but just random stories about things people had done in public eye. There is a big difference in publishing a story about kids acting up in a store, and publishing someones diary entries. This episode tried to make them sound like the same thing. I may have to watch it again to check if there really was a blur between the "good" stories the "bad" stories. The impression I got is that they created the illusion of them being the same as that's what the CMC were being lead to believe, and you the audience are supposed to be ahead of them, and by the tame they realize what you knew, they're blackmailed into it. I don't think they tried to make them seem the same thing, just that the characters thought they were at first, but I will rewatch it to be sure. Also the pony running the paper was not a CMC, and we've established that she's meant to be a bitch anyway.


I dunno, I'm gonna have to buck the trend and say I thought this episode was pretty awesome. The lesson was vague and muddled, I'll openly support that complaint. The moral itself was a little off because they never went into the difference between gossip, news and invasion of privacy. For me though, the moment to moment one liners, facial expressions and wtf moments totally made up for any shortcomings. Spoilerseses Big Mac and Applejack swapping speech patterns when they got pissed was classic. Celestia stuffing her face? Rarity's several violent declarations? Twilight throwing up a forcefield out of spite? Poor little Scoots only able to hover her flank? It was pretty much wall to wall hilarity for me. Like I say, I'll rewatch it to check if the lesson was done in an off way, as I always thought that they didn't need to explain it out loud. We got it, the CMC got it, the target audience got it. Did it need to actually be said by the characters, or would that just shove it down everyone's throats? That said I will watch it again to be sure, as this show has goofed on it's lessons before (The unfortunatly named "Mysterious Mare Do Well" is a good example, even though I seem to be the only one who actually liked the episode, I do see an obvious flaw with the way the moral was handled).

I agree with the episode being humorus though.

Did anyone notice that while Diamond Tiara was featured in enough scenes to be considered at least a semi-central character; her so called best friend Silver Spoon didn't appear once? It's probably because she wasn't on the paper team or something, but seeing her absence, and seeing that Diamond's personality appears to have gotten even worst now, reopens what I thought when I saw "Family Appreciation Day" which is; what if they did an episode where Diamond Tiara becomes so spoiled and so bitchy that even Silver Spoon can't stand her anymore? I personally think that would be a good episode, and would be good for the target audience as it will show them that you shouldn't be stuck up and everything (I personally view Silver Spoon to be the lesser of the two evils, if that makes sense).

[Hollycat]

http://chzbronies.files.wordpress.com/2012/03/my-little-pony-friendship-is-magic-brony-never-forget-my-little-pony2.jpg

[NeoCracker]

Thats a terribly unconvincing April Fools. :p

Edit: And the botched lesson is really only a small portion of my dislike for the episode. I never enjoyed Cutie mark Crusaders, and the majority of jokes with them I don't find funny in the least. Its the culmination of dislike of CMC, a botched lesson, and everyone seeming so out of character in their support of the gossip collum at first.

The amount of jokes I found funny could be counted on one hand.

'Et Tu Sweetie Belle', Rarity threatening to kill them all, and scootaloos flying atttempt.

As I also mentioned I was amusied at the fact they had tail extensions, but boggled by why it would be embarassing, though I have never known or heard of anyone seeing extensions in anything resembling a negative light.

And I enjoyed Mare-Do Well. Not one of the better episodes, but still fun.

[Hollycat]

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[MJN SEIFER]

And I enjoyed Mare-Do Well. Not one of the better episodes, but still fun. At least I'm not the only one who doesn't outright hate it. To be honest, the worst aspect of it for me was (aside from the fact they gave a supposed Super Hero a title which was horse pun on a phrase that means "a bad guy") was that while Dash did need to be put in her place, and while I thought it was cool how they did it - why didn't any of them even try to talk to Dash first? Yeah, okay she might not have listened, but it wasn't believable that her friends wouldn't have tried talking to her before humiliating her first if that makes sense. Loved the humor though, I really like Scootaloo's feeble attempt at acting, and the fact that Dash doesn't see right through it. :p

Also, and I realize that it's been online for ages, and you've probably all read it already, but... I've finally read My Little Dashie. It was beautiful. Words can't even begin to explain how I felt by the time I'd finished reading it...

[gyepitokki]

I never realised this thread.. i'm now in heaven T^T

I can't wait for the next episode x3

[GhandiOwnsYou]

aaaaaaand another one. Welcome Brony.

[Madame Adequate]

What the hay was out of character about supporting the column? It provided lighthearted, amusing stories at first. Snips and Snails getting stuck together by gum; A couple of babbies cry at the store; The Great and Powerful Trixie's Secrets Revealed. They show a clear and logical progression towards being unacceptably invasive. It was only when the CMC started running out of stories and Diamond Tiara pressed them that they started getting invasive, and that was exactly when the Mane Six started to have doubts about it, which seems pretty reasonable to me.

And Sweetie Belle herself asks why on Earth Rarity and her friends would want to read the Foal Free Press and it's because gum on their bum!

[NeoCracker]

The only one that had doubts was Twilight Sparkle. The rest showed no issues until they were the ones featured.

I agree that the gum and kids were rather light hearted stories mind you, (they weren't specific enough about the light hearted stories), but there in lies the problem. Diamond Tiara, upon reading the article about the gum, immidiately refers to it as getting stories about ponies when they think they are alone. Even her reaction to the crying babies makes the article come off as less then flattering.

Mind you, these are the only stories we've heard about during the scene in the Spa. Everypony except Twilight has no issues what so ever with whats going on, yet twilight is already talking about how Gabby Gums 'values no ones privacy'. This is where stories like the Mayor Dying her maine and Celestia eating the cake come up, and still only Twilight thinks it can be hurtful.

Then the first collum that's not gossip, i.e. the spike story, it gets shut down as 'not being the same kind of journalism that got them this far'. And even the CMC have said the feel bad about these stories they've been doing up until now. It seems the episode has made no distinction as to what column's are just the light hearted ones or mean spirited ones.

To further the point, we get to the next scene of the colums about AJ and Twilight, which AJ is immediately pissed, as is Twilight. Rarity brushes it off as completely Harmless, as do Fluttershy and Pinkie (Not buy saying anything, but by seeming completely un-phased by AJ's reaction to the article on her. There is no way I can believe that was in character for Fluttershy.) We then get, in this order, Fluttershy, Pinkie Pie, Rainbow Dash, and Rarity having articles about them, and them getting upset over it.

There is a big difference here in that the articles feature lies, but between them already feeling bad about the initial articles, as well as Twilights earlier comments about the articles being hurtful and feeling bad about the featured ponies, there isn't shown to be any distinction, and in fact reason to believe that the articles are all in the same ballpark of mean spirited.

And I still hold it's out of character for the ponies.

1) Rarity, as I mentioned, should already know the adverse effects of such columns. She is in a profession that knows the downsides.
2) You would tell me that Fluttershy, the one who represesnts Kindness, has no issues reading a column that to date has shown nothing but peoples negative sides, in addition to not reacting to AJ getting so upset over one and brushing it off like its nothing? This isn't something as objectively silly as the Twilight Freak out episode mind you.
3) Other then AJ being in a spa after the whole sleepover episode shenanagins (Just something odd I noticed, nothing that's a big deal mind you. :p), it may just be me but she never seemed the type at all interested in Gossip, which is exactly what this column is, light hearted or not. That just may be me though.
4) It's pretty much the same for Rainbow Dash as AJ for me. She seems in no way someone interested in a Gossip Column.
5. Pinkie Pie amounts to the same as Fluttershy. She brushed off the stories of AJ and Twilight until she read the one about her. The Pony whose main purpose in life is to bring a smile to the faces of others.
6.) I'm derailed as to how Twilight can think 'Gabby Gums' can be mean and hurtful at times, how she can 'feel bad about the featured ponies', and STILL say she likes Gabby Gums.

[Madame Adequate]

Well the show is kind of limited by the fact that it is for kids. What the heck kind of stories are they supposed to state are being printed? 'Fluttershy Caught Yiffing; Angel Speaks Of Years Of Abuse', 'Princess Luna dies in high-speed paparazzo car wreck', 'Trixie's Sixth Abortion'? :p They couldn't just say everypony's diary was getting published, they couldn't just say "Pony's secrets revealed!" or the like, they had to have some more 'meat' as it were, but the constraints of the fact that bronies are secondary to the show's intended audience meant that these additional stories had to be fairly lightweight affairs. So I can see that there might be some dissonance here, I guess I'm just more willing to forgive it than you are.

But why you think Rarity would be opposed to gossip I cannot fathom. She's in the fashion industry, that doesn't mean she realizes how gossip can hurt, it means she partakes in gossiping and thinks it's fine. She's so casual about it precisely BECAUSE of her profession, not in spite of it!

[Pike]

Ponies condoning gossip didn't seem particularly unusual to me because if you go out into the real world pretty much everyone condones gossip. Is it a good thing? Not really. Does everyone do it anyway? Yes. :tongue:

[NeoCracker]

Well the show is kind of limited by the fact that it is for kids. What the heck kind of stories are they supposed to state are being printed? 'Fluttershy Caught Yiffing; Angel Speaks Of Years Of Abuse', 'Princess Luna dies in high-speed paparazzo car wreck', 'Trixie's Sixth Abortion'? :p They couldn't just say everypony's diary was getting published, they couldn't just say "Pony's secrets revealed!" or the like, they had to have some more 'meat' as it were, but the constraints of the fact that bronies are secondary to the show's intended audience meant that these additional stories had to be fairly lightweight affairs. So I can see that there might be some dissonance here, I guess I'm just more willing to forgive it than you are.

But why you think Rarity would be opposed to gossip I cannot fathom. She's in the fashion industry, that doesn't mean she realizes how gossip can hurt, it means she partakes in gossiping and thinks it's fine. She's so casual about it precisely BECAUSE of her profession, not in spite of it!

As far as I can tell, people in that position tend to be a lot less likely to gossip because they tend to be the target of it more then most. I never hear about celebrity types being the ones spreading gossip, I only ever here them speak out against it. (It is less widespread when it comes to fashion designers though, but it applies to people who are big into whoever fasion designers are.)

I guess it could be argued that she isn't that big in the industry yet, but she constantly seems fully aware of how it works, so it's just awkward that she doesn't seem to realize the hurtful nature of gossip. The more light hearted stories I'm fine with, I mean her getting a chuckle out of it isn't an issue. It's only an issue when they try to play off all the stories as being bad(I recall mentioning the CMC feeling guilt about all of their stories prior to the mentioning of Spikes getting rejected.) The poor job at differentiating between bad gossip and the light hearted stories is where the problems start forming for me.

I do find it odd that this is what we end up debating, since really its secondary to my real dislikes of the episode, being I just don't like the CMC. :p

[Hollycat]

Hey guys, I am about to be completely serious, this is the single most important post in the history of this thread.
I'm spoilering the news for those of us with weak hearts.

Ponies are on Netflix

[Pike]

My collection is finally complete! :jess:

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[Pike]

My collection is finally complete! :jess:

https://p.twimg.com/AppaB6sCMAA_Dun.jpg

[Hollycat]

You said that already. What did you think about my news?

[Pike]

No I didn't, because my collection wasn't complete until this morning!

And I don't have a Netflix account.

[NeoCracker]

While I am deeply bothered by the Hasbro and McDonalds toys design, congratulations Pike! :D

And I don't give to shits about Netflix myself. :p

[Hollycat]

You guys are terrible. Although to be honest, I already downloaded all the episodes from season 1

[NorthernChaosGod]

I don't really care that the show is on Netflix either. I can already watch the episodes on my TV through the YouTube uploads.

[MJN SEIFER]

Yeah, no offense Hypo, but I didn't even know what Netflix is when I got here, and still don't. YouTube is enough until it's released on DVD for me. Congartulations on completing the set Pike. :cool:

[Hollycat]

http://26.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_ljz0edMimf1qa02x4o1_500.jpg

[MJN SEIFER]

^It's okay Hypo, we appreciate it :).

[GhandiOwnsYou]

I was pretty stoked when I saw it hit Netflix. I use Netflix all the time, though not for pony. (I've got all that downloaded already trololol copyrights...) It's addition to Netflix however allows me to easily introduce it to new folk that would never take the time to download or youtube it. I'm an evangelical brony, I preach the gospel of Celestia from the book of Twilight Sparkle.

[MJN SEIFER]

Ignore this. Don't want to delete incase lower posts damaged.

[MJN SEIFER]

58 6 "Flight as a Feather" TBA TBA Winter 2012 When Scootaloo's parents leave for a vacation, they trust their daughter in the hooves of Rainbow Dash. Desperate to prove herself to her lifelong hero, she sets out to learn the ancient secrets of flight.
Please be real, please be real. :hyper:

[NeoCracker]

Regardless of my dislike of the CMC, that actually sounds like it could be fun. :p

[NorthernChaosGod]

Scootaloo has parents?!

[NeoCracker]

You know, I'll probably skip this coming episode and just wait until the second part comes out so I can watch it all at once.

[MJN SEIFER]

You know, I'll probably skip this coming episode and just wait until the second part comes out so I can watch it all at once.
Yeah, I can be down with that. I'll probably do the same.

I'm gonna view thes two episodes as one episode in the long run anyway. Like Friendship is Magic and Return to Harmony.

[NorthernChaosGod]

Aren't both parts coming out on the same day?

[NeoCracker]

If that's the case I retract my previous plans. :p

[MJN SEIFER]

Apropos of nothing: What are the Equestrian events that can be translated to our own? The ones I can think of are;

Nightmare Night = Halloween
Hearts and Hooves Day = Valentines’ Day

I have also seen people saying that "Hearth's Warming Eve" is meant to be Christmas. Is that true? Do they get presents on that day? I realize that the main event is discovering how Equestria was discovered (which is in continuity, as Lauren stated this long before she left the show, and long before the episode aired.) Any more?

[Hollycat]

My dog ate Celestia

[Pike]

Guys this episode was so great

Dat James Bond
Dat old timey silent film
Dat portrait of some Prussian pony military advisor

I just lost it

[MJN SEIFER]

I''ll be watching it later, along with something else slightly releated to this topic... :hyper:
No offense, but does anyone know the answer to my earlier question? Just curious.

[GhandiOwnsYou]

Guys this episode was so great

Dat James Bond
Dat old timey silent film
Dat portrait of some Prussian pony military advisor

I just lost it


Had three comments here. One, it is now impossible for them to claim this as a show for preschoolers. Silent film section, toddlers can't read yo. Two, Pony Joe and Donut Joe, twin brothers or canon fail? Three, is anyone else convinced Applejack did something ridiculous they never talked about? She was sweating bullets the whole time they were calling out the culprits...

[MJN SEIFER]

^Wasn't the target audience seven year olds? Sureley they're not preschoolers unless it's different in America.

[GhandiOwnsYou]

7 year olds would probably be... 1st grade? Unless I'm mistaken. By then you'd be one fish two fish-ing. I'm pretty sure they're not gonna know what a cur is though.

[MJN SEIFER]

Wow, 7 is 3rd grade over here. Never new it was that different. Thanks. Hope you didn't mind me asking.

[NorthernChaosGod]

Well I'm pretty sure the target demographic is kids and their parents, so the kids can just ask their parents what's going on.

[MJN SEIFER]

That makes a lot of sense. Of course, there's always at least on kid who somehow knows the words or refferences himself/herself. It's like when I was a kid, a TV show would make a reference to something "before my time", and I'd still get it, because I had managed to find out what it was (I watched a lot of TV as a kid, so I saw many things).

Anyway, my life story isn't important right now; It's time for me to watch My Little Pony. :love: And after that, I'll watch Friendship is Magic.:eek:

[Pike]

Well I'm pretty sure the target demographic is kids and their parents, so the kids can just ask their parents what's going on.

Yeah, Lauren Faust said she made the show "for kids and their parents". I'd say it's similar to Sesame Street where they had all sorts of parodies that would fly over kids' heads (various popular music and movie references-- an obvious spoof of "My Fair Lady" comes to mind.)

[MJN SEIFER]

No offense, but how would "popular music" go over the kid's heads? I know I like obscure things, but I never knew music was obscure. Mind you I like music from all decades. No offense just asking again.

[NorthernChaosGod]

Well she didn't necessarily say it had to be current popular music. I assume there is also a possibility that small children would not get musical references irrespective of the era.

[Agent Proto]

Yeah. This may have been pointed out earlier, but during the scene in "Putting your hoof down" where Fluttershy finally sees how much of a monster she turned out to be, the music playing is similar to the music that plays during the ending of the Incredible Hulk show, The Lonely Man.

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[MJN SEIFER]

Nothing scores higher than the three (or two, as one is more may be just open to interpretation) Final Fantasy references we've seen so far. Of course, I'm kind of biased to the FF series. Can't imagine why...

PS: Sorry NorthernChaosGod I almost missed your reply. Yeah, I guess, but I guess it depends on what kind of music the kids listens too (ever since I was a kid, I always liked a really wide variety) not I'm not trying to argue, I just don't think that all kids only like things from "now" if that makes sense.

[GhandiOwnsYou]

Eh? Maybe my fanboy is slipping, but I've caught zero references to FF. Fill me in?

[NeoCracker]

Don't forget the David Bowie Reference.

[MJN SEIFER]

Eh? Maybe my fanboy is slipping, but I've caught zero references to FF. Fill me in? From the most likley to be a refferences to the least likley;

1. The classic Phoenix Summon animation being shown in Dragon Quest - kind of funny really, you name the episode after one RPG, and use the animation from another.

2. There is a Final Fantasy VIII magic sound effect several times when magic is used. The first time on record being when Twilight "picks up" Spike with magic in Fluttershy's scene in episode one.

3. This is probably a coincidence, but the final scene where the elements are revealed to Luna and they stop her had a Final Fantasy "last boss" feel to it.


Don't forget the David Bowie Reference.
Do you mean there being an episode called Diamond Dogs? If so, I totally got that the first go. :)

[NeoCracker]

The episode was 'A Dog and Pony Show' but the dogs were The Diamond Dogs. :p

And finally watched the new episode. On a whole I don't think the episode is amazing, but it does have a lot of the minor details I love about this show.

I immidiately caught Rarity's new hair, but only because every murder mystery has a classy lady with that hair style. And I'll spoiler the rest for those who haven't seen it.

I should have guessed it was those three right away in foresight. I immidately thought the first shadow was Rainbow, Rarity had the evil lady hair style, and the main was clearly fluttershy's. I knew all of these things, yet for some reason I in no way pieced it together.

The only thing I didn't like was Big Mac struggling with the cake. The guy who dragged to Oxen and a cart of Anvils with no issues what so ever.

The fuck is in that cake?

But yes, very pleasent episode. I loved the hat Shenanigans too. :p

[MJN SEIFER]

The episode was 'A Dog and Pony Show' but the dogs were The Diamond Dogs. :p

And finally watched the new episode. On a whole I don't think the episode is amazing, but it does have a lot of the minor details I love about this show.

I immidiately caught Rarity's new hair, but only because every murder mystery has a classy lady with that hair style. And I'll spoiler the rest for those who haven't seen it.

I should have guessed it was those three right away in foresight. I immidately thought the first shadow was Rainbow, Rarity had the evil lady hair style, and the main was clearly fluttershy's. I knew all of these things, yet for some reason I in no way pieced it together.

The only thing I didn't like was Big Mac struggling with the cake. The guy who dragged to Oxen and a cart of Anvils with no issues what so ever.

The smurf is in that cake?

But yes, very pleasent episode. I loved the hat Shenanigans too. :p Oh that's right - silly me. :jess:

Yeah, I enjoyed this episode though there were ones I liked better, I could have done without the scene at the end the other chefs had food on random places though, for some reason it didn't look right in a Friendship is Magic episode.

Agree on Big Mac though, in every other episode he's implied to be pretty strong. Also I think I heard somewhere that strength is the Earth Pony's main advantage.

Unicorn's Advantage = Magic
Earth Pony's Advantage = Strength
Pegasis's Advantage = Flight
Alicorn Advantage = All three I guess. :p

[NorthernChaosGod]

I'm pretty sure that Big Mac struggling with the cake is just Rule of Funny (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/RuleOfFunny), guize.

[NeoCracker]

The episode was 'A Dog and Pony Show' but the dogs were The Diamond Dogs. :p

And finally watched the new episode. On a whole I don't think the episode is amazing, but it does have a lot of the minor details I love about this show.

I immidiately caught Rarity's new hair, but only because every murder mystery has a classy lady with that hair style. And I'll spoiler the rest for those who haven't seen it.

I should have guessed it was those three right away in foresight. I immidately thought the first shadow was Rainbow, Rarity had the evil lady hair style, and the main was clearly fluttershy's. I knew all of these things, yet for some reason I in no way pieced it together.

The only thing I didn't like was Big Mac struggling with the cake. The guy who dragged to Oxen and a cart of Anvils with no issues what so ever.

The smurf is in that cake?

But yes, very pleasent episode. I loved the hat Shenanigans too. :p Oh that's right - silly me. :jess:

Yeah, I enjoyed this episode though there were ones I liked better, I could have done without the scene at the end the other chefs had food on random places though, for some reason it didn't look right in a Friendship is Magic episode.

Agree on Big Mac though, in every other episode he's implied to be pretty strong. Also I think I heard somewhere that strength is the Earth Pony's main advantage.

Unicorn's Advantage = Magic
Earth Pony's Advantage = Strength
Pegasis's Advantage = Flight
Alicorn Advantage = All three I guess. :p

I've yet to see a physically strong Alicorn.

Edit: And you can be both funny AND consistant NCG. :colbert:

[Hollycat]

35887

[NorthernChaosGod]

Edit: And you can be both funny AND consistant NCG. :colbert:

But Rule of Funny is not really supposed to be consistent. :doublecolbert:

And what is with your name?

[Hollycat]

That's what his niece calls him.

I didn't enjoy this episode as much as I thought I would. I gotta tell you, if that cake really weighs enough to slow down Big Mac, then Futtershy, Dashie and Rarity are going to gain a ton of weight.

[GhandiOwnsYou]

That's what his niece calls him.

I didn't enjoy this episode as much as I thought I would. I gotta tell you, if that cake really weighs enough to slow down Big Mac, then Futtershy, Dashie and Rarity are going to gain a ton of weight.

http://www.einzelhandelspoesie.de/klassiker/bilder/futtern.jpg

dat Kuchen

[NeoCracker]

Edit: And you can be both funny AND consistant NCG. :colbert:

But Rule of Funny is not really supposed to be consistent. :doublecolbert:

And what is with your name?

The consistency is way to off for me in case of Big Mac in this case for me to be amused.

And this name is awesome, that's whats with it. :colbert:

And my nephew has actually refered to me as creepy Uncle Big Hands before. XD

[MJN SEIFER]

Also, in terms of consistency how can Twilight be the reader/bookworm/egghead of the group and not know that the correct term really was "whodunnit" in that context? Or were mystery books the one genre she never read?

[MJN SEIFER]

For those still wondering, the finale is scheduled to air on 2012-04-21 and that's both parts. So it doesn't look like there's any YouTube airings this Saturday, so I guess I'll watch something else :) Yeah, a YouTube episode on Saturday has become a kind of tradition for me. Though I sometimes watch on weekdays as currently Boomerang has stopped showing it :(.

[Pike]

So no episode tomorrow? Good, because I work tomorrow morning. xD

[Hollycat]

http://i1.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/279/579/303.png

Name as many as you can (use a spoiler)
Rankings:
row1: I watched one or two episodes
row2: Easy
Rosw3: I have watched quite a few episodes
Row4: Average Brony
Row5:Medium
Row6: Medium
Row7: Expert
Row8: Holy Brony Guacamole
Row9(first4): Even I, HC cannot name all 4
Last 1: I saw the second episode and became a brony. (easy)

[Agent Proto]

Part 3 of the Phoenix Wright/My Little Pony FIM - Turnabout Storm is out! This mash-up video is so really well done and fantastic to watch. You should all watch the videos!

The third one has Pinkie Pie, and let me warn you, she is ALL OVER THE GODDAMN PLACE BREAKING EVERY FOURTH WALL IN EXISTENCE.

Phoenix Wright / My Little Pony FIM - Turnabout Storm [Part 3/4]- Phoenix - YouTube (http://youtu.be/XIvfwJTPK_0)

It's really worth watching, even if you aren't a fan of Phoenix Wright.

Edit:

Part 1: Phoenix Wright / My Little Pony FIM - Turnabout Storm [Part 1/4] - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yUDfoZGhLjE)
Part 2: Phoenix Wright / My Little Pony FIM - Turnabout Storm [Part 2/4] - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s07W4-A7HQw)

[GhandiOwnsYou]

http://i1.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/279/579/303.png

Name as many as you can (use a spoiler)
Rankings:
row1: I watched one or two episodes
row2: Easy
Rosw3: I have watched quite a few episodes
Row4: Average Brony
Row5:Medium
Row6: Medium
Row7: Expert
Row7: Holy Brony Guacamole
Row8(first4): Even I, HC cannot name all 4
Last 1: I saw the second episode and became a brony. (easy)

I was going to list them all, but then I realized Lyra's color was incorrect and became convinced the later part of the list was trying to screw me. Props for including Manly Mustache Pony though.

[MJN SEIFER]

http://i1.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/279/579/303.png

Twilight, Applejack, Fluttershy, Dash, Pinkie, Rarity, Celestia, Luna, Spike, Big Mac, Granny Smith, Probably Gilda (I seriously hope I'm not mistaking an innocent pony for her), Zecora, Scootaloo, Apple Bloom, Sweetiebelle, no idea, Cherilee, Mayor, don't know, don't know, Snips, Snails, Braeburn, Hoity, Photo Finish, Probaly Saphire, Soarin, Spitfire, Derpy, Dinky, Whooves (I guess, I dunno!) Lyra Heartstrings, Bon-Bon, Probably the tennace player, dunno if named yet, Might be Vynl, but probably isn't, don't know, might be the nurse, don't know, recognise, but don't know her name (a pink unicorn filly), might be Caramel, don't know, don't know, Diamond Tiara, Silver Spoon, Twilight's Mother, Twilight's Father, Minute/Colgate (they keep changing her name!), feel I should know, but don't, Twist, don't know, don't know, Spa Pony, Spa Pony, (I'm not sure if these next six are ponies or pets!) don't know, Winoa Gummy, Owlliysious(sp?), Angel or Opal, Philosoma, three pegasus bullies (don't know names), don't know, that gardener that looks like a camel, don't know, feel like I know, recognise (I think a pegasis filly), don't know, don't know, don't know, don't know, Octavia, don't know, don't know, don't know, Serpent (looks like a sword here!)
Yeah, I suck. Some ponies I feel I should seen weren't there so I may have missed them.

[Hollycat]

To help, this is all from season 1.

[MJN SEIFER]

To help, this is all from season 1.
I'll take the stupid "Pip" confusion out then. Thanks. I might have another look later as well.

[Agent Proto]

1. Twilight Sparkle, Applejack, Fluttershy, Rainbow Dash, Pinkie Pie, Rarity, Princess Celestria, Princess Luna, Spike
2. Big Macintosh, Granny Smith, Gilda, Zecora, Scootaloo, Apple Bloom, Sweetie Belle, Trixie, Cheerilee
3. Mayor Mare, Mr. Carrot Cake, Mrs. Cup Cake, Snips, Snails, Braeburn, Hoity Toity, Photo Finish, Sapphire Shore
4. Soarin', Spitfire, Derpy Hooves, Ditzy Doo, Doctor Whooves, Lyra, Bon-Bon, Ace, DJ Pon3
5. Mr. Breezy, Nurse Redheart, Berry Punch, Berry Pinch, Caramel, Rose, Golden Harvest, Diamond Tiara, Silver Spoon
6. Twilight Velvet, Night Light, ???, ???, Twist, Filthy Rich, ???, Lotus, Aloe
7. Opalescence, Winona, Gummy, Owloysius, Angel, Philomeena, Hoops, Score, Dumb-Bell
8. Sheriff Silverstar, Mr. Greenhooves, ???, ???, ???, ???, Pony Joe, Horte Cuisine, ???
9: Octavia, Madden, ???, ???, Sea Serpent

Looks like I could name them all but ten I couldn't find or recognize. I looked through the MLP wiki list of ponies and character to help me though. :P

[MJN SEIFER]

So how many people need to guess until we get the answers?

[Hollycat]

Oh what, I don't have a list of the answers. I'm nearly positive I know everything till the last row, but I could be way wrong.
I could probably get a list if you really want

[Shoden]

I barely survived the weekend. A weekend without ponies isn't one worth living AAAAAAAARGH!

[MJN SEIFER]

Oh what, I don't have a list of the answers. I'm nearly positive I know everything till the last row, but I could be way wrong.
I could probably get a list if you really want It's okay, I was just wondering out of curiosity that's all, as I probably didn't score as high as I'd like, partly due to fatigue as it was a stupidly late/early time of night/day when I wrote it. Also, I must confess I peaked at Proto's answers, and noticed a few that I missed (some of which I proceded to kick myself for, one of them should never have been missed) but to avoid cheating, I have left my answers as they are. (Also, some pony's have more than one name based on fan naming and toy naming, and some ponies I recognise, but don't actually know their names).


I barely survived the weekend. A weekend without ponies isn't one worth living AAAAAAAARGH! Thankfully if I'm right, this weekend is the weekend where we get to see double ponies, can you handle it? I know I can!

[Hollycat]

DOUBRE PONIES!!!! but then summer.
-_- NoooOOOOooooOOOOooooo....

I like that they officially named Lyra Lyra Heartstrings.

[Shoden]

I'm game, I'll prepare myself for the double dosage!

[GhandiOwnsYou]

I'm supposed to meeting my two best friends saturday to go shooting. The three of us haven't been together in over three years, and have been best friends for something like 15 years. I'm still kinda bummed about having to watch the whole shebang late...

[MJN SEIFER]

I'm supposed to meeting my two best friends Saturday to go shooting. The three of us haven't been together in over three years, and have been best friends for something like 15 years. I'm still kinda bummed about having to watch the whole shebang late... To be fair you probably won't be alone, as I always watch my ponies kind of late as well, so it can be the last thing I do on Saturday (and it's technically Sunday as I stay up past midnight on a Saturday), so I always kind of watch them late, but I may be slightly earlier for the double ponies.


DOUBRE PONIES!!!! but then summer.
-_- NoooOOOOooooOOOOooooo....

I like that they officially named Lyra Lyra Heartstrings. I'm pleased about the Lyra Heartstrings thing too, partly because it should stop the arguing, and mostly because I pretty much said to everyone "Just go with Lyra Heartstrings" when the fighting started anyway.

Also, I know exactly how you feel about the summer - a pony withdrawal :(. However, all is not lost, as we can still watch previous episodes of Season 2 and Season 1. In fact I'm going to do just that, and even alternate between season 1 and 2 episodes, because I love Friendship is Magic so much. Furthermore, I finally rediscovered the old ponies. :love: So I'm going to have a very ponyful life for a long time to come. :cool:

[GhandiOwnsYou]

AMAZING.

LEGO® CUUSOO | LEGO My Little Pony - Friendship is magic (http://lego.cuusoo.com/ideas/view/11176)

This is kinda old news, but apparently he got an e-mail from lego saying they would have to look into licensing if he received 10,000 supporters. The EQD callout has been cast, so this is easily doable. CHECK IT. (http://www.equestriadaily.com/2012/04/lego-cuusoo-big-mac-and-fluttershy.html)

[MJN SEIFER]

AMAZING.

LEGO® CUUSOO | LEGO My Little Pony - Friendship is magic (http://lego.cuusoo.com/ideas/view/11176)

This is kinda old news, but apparently he got an e-mail from lego saying they would have to look into licensing if he received 10,000 supporters. The EQD callout has been cast, so this is easily doable. CHECK IT. (http://www.equestriadaily.com/2012/04/lego-cuusoo-big-mac-and-fluttershy.html)
WOW! I was expecting them to look really blocky, and well... lego like, but they look really cool, and very close to the show. Kind of awesome! :cool:

[NeoCracker]

I think Big Mac looks a little funky, but other then that they look great in those shots.

[MJN SEIFER]

^He does look a bit off, now that you mention it. To be honest, I completly missed him.

[MJN SEIFER]

Don't forget we've also got the group.

[Pike]

CONFIRMED FOR BEST FINALE

VINYL SCRATCH CONFIRMED FOR RED EYES JUST LIKE THE FANART SAID

[MJN SEIFER]

CONFIRMED FOR BEST FINALE

VINYL SCRATCH CONFIRMED FOR RED EYES JUST LIKE THE FANART SAID Awesome! Are both episodes on YouTube yet?

[NeoCracker]

Here soon we should totally organize that streaming thing we did a while back, only this time for Season 2!~

[Madame Adequate]

That was pretty much awesome.

[Agent Proto]

I enjoyed the finale! It was pretty good, but I was a bit miffed with Twilie (best nickname ever) initially accusing Princess Candence as evil in the first part. The sonic rainboom at the end was pretty awesome too.

[MJN SEIFER]

Here soon we should totally organize that streaming thing we did a while back, only this time for Season 2!~ I was hoping someone would suggest that, especially as I found the first one we did to be so awesome! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l8JCX9E0bEI&list=PL960209E463E86E34&index=11&feature=plpp_video)
I hope I'm allowed to take part again. One question though, if we do this, will we do all of season 2, or just the ones we didn't show during our last Ponython?

[Hollycat]

I for one am disappointed at the way the front legs look on the ponies.

[MJN SEIFER]

How come Hypo?

Also, I realize I'm late as usual, but Oh my God, I totally loved this episode(s), it was so awesome! Honestly, guys - by the end I couldn't stop "awwwwwww"ing!:love::love::love:

Considering Lauren actually came up with the idea for the storyline before she left, I wonder how much of her original concept remained? I know Cadance wasn't meant to be an alicorn, but that's all I know. Either way, it was beautiful.

[Hollycat]

I just don't think they look right. If a legitimate version is made with bendy knees, I'd be sold.

[GhandiOwnsYou]

My only dissapointments were the songs. The first two were kinda... Meh. The one at the reception was pretty awesome though. I am also definitely down for a livestream event too, I can only hope that I'm able to check in on this one. I'm moving to Korea the first week of may and it'll probably be a few weeks before I get settled in and life gets back to normal.

[Hollycat]

I can't seem to find either ep on youtube. :(((((((((((((

[Madame Adequate]

My only dissapointments were the songs. The first two were kinda... Meh. The one at the reception was pretty awesome though.

What nooo the songs were amazing!

[MJN SEIFER]

I can't seem to find either ep on youtube. :(((((((((((((Here (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uLBZzpOUvmk), and here (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GWmrnu3FDhg&feature=my_liked_videos&list=LLqFsB7eTz2cFMdknkqn8w-A).

Also, personally loved the songs, but each to their own.

[NorthernChaosGod]

My only dissapointments were the songs. The first two were kinda... Meh. The one at the reception was pretty awesome though.

What nooo the songs were amazing!

I agree! The songs were fantastic and Twilight singing about losing her brother gave me a feel. :(

[MJN SEIFER]

My only dissapointments were the songs. The first two were kinda... Meh. The one at the reception was pretty awesome though.

What nooo the songs were amazing!

I agree! The songs were fantastic and Twilight singing about losing her brother gave me a feel. :( Same here. :( I also teared somewhat during the episode...

[Hollycat]

I find these episodes to be corny. So far I am almost done with ep1.

Why to Shining and Twi have different last names?

[Agent Proto]

Ponies don't necessarily need to have a last name to be related. *ahem* Big Macintosh, Applejack, Apple Bloom. Do I see a last names there? Nnnnope.

[Hollycat]

Ok, I'm not sure how I feel about the episodes. Disappointed?

The only thing I really liked was scratch and the second song.

[MJN SEIFER]

Shining Armor could be his entire first name, but it seems to me that either the ponies don't have full names (as Proto pointed out) or they just work differently to them than they do to us. "Sparkle" really does seem like a last name because she is sometimes just called "Twilight" giving the impression that, that is her first name. However, if you check out the first generation (or if you don't want to, just do some research on Lauren when she was making Friendship is Magic) you will know why "Sparkle" is sometimes omitted.

Shame you didn't like the episode Hypo, but each to their own. :)

[Hollycat]

Sparkle has to be a last name, she gets called Ms. Sparkle.

Aunt and Uncle Orange

The Apple Family

The Cakes.


Seems like some families have last names and others don't.
Example:
Rarity _____
Sweetie Belle ________

[Pike]

Here soon we should totally organize that streaming thing we did a while back, only this time for Season 2!~

I plan on doing so at some point in the near future!

[MJN SEIFER]

Sparkle has to be a last name, she gets called Ms. Sparkle.

Aunt and Uncle Orange

The Apple Family

The Cakes.


Seems like some families have last names and others don't.
Example:
Rarity _____
Sweetie Belle ________ That's a good point, and yeah, I agree that some families seem to have full names, but others don't. It's especially confusing when a character has a "Double" name, but the character you mentioned are full names in my mind.



Here soon we should totally organize that streaming thing we did a while back, only this time for Season 2!~

I plan on doing so at some point in the near future! Can I participate? I'd love to take part again. :)

[NeoCracker]

I'll write a more detailed post later, but I'll say a few things now.

I do enjoy the finale, but on a whole there was a lot of issues with it. However, there are so many little things throught, much like the Murder Mystery episode, that I just adored.

On a whole kind of a lack luster way to end a season.

[Laddy]

Top 3 episodes? Indeed.

[MJN SEIFER]

So, which of the two seasons would you say had the superior season finale? I would say Season 2 for the following reasons;

1. It felt more like a finale.
2. It had a more engaging storyline.
3. It was a really "awww" and romantic episode.
4. There was actually a threat to the ponies, and possibly Equestria itself, so there was more of an urgency for the mane six to succeed, where as in Season 1 it was just a case of "I've planned this day for so long, and now everything's going wrong". I liked it, but it fealt less of a finale.

The only thing that made Best Night Ever feel like a finale, is ironically the only thing that I thought that episode did better than A Canterlot Wedding; it foreshadowed itself - in Season 1, the ponies were talking about the gala throughout the season, so that made it feel like a finale, but nothing else did.

[NeoCracker]

Season 1 had the way better finale.

There is a few big problems I had with this finale.

The biggeset is the finish. Its ending had next to nothing to do with any of our main six characters, and instead falls fully on two characters we have barely had a chance to get to know. I mean the time we've had with Cadence wasn't even half an episode.

Then there is the issue of the blatently evil Cadence. How the hell did anyone NOT figure this out? The fake clearly didn't do all that much research, she didn't even realize Twilight was Shining's sister.

You could make the argument that perhaps she was using her magic to do so, but why didn't she just do it to Twilight? If it's because of twilights skill in magic it may not have worked on her, then how would it have fooled Celestia?

I'm not bothered by the Idea of the Shapechangers being here to feed on the inhabitants, but more the plan is a bit fuzzy. First off, did the fake get here before or after the barrier was put up? It seems her goal was to go after SA specifically in order to take down the barrier, but then how did she get in to begin with?

And then there was the actual fight with the Changelings, which was great and fun, but ended up not mattering in the slightest.

And I'm bothered by the introduction of Shining too. Not the character or the fact he exists mind you, but it was baddly handled. Twilight was so pissed about this not being told he was getting married? Really? This is a guy who has not come to see her ANY of the times they've been in Canterlot, and the guy she cares SO MUCH about she hasn't mentioned him once in the entirety of these two seasons?

And I'm boggled by thier refusal to get Luna involved in the story. They had the perfect opportunity to do so. That's not really a major complaint, just me wondering what went through their head.

I disagree with you Seifer, because these issues make this finale hard to be engaging for me. All the characters I know and love from the show had little to nothing to do with anything. The only relevant thing they did the whole time was Twilight saving Cadence. That was the extent of our shows main characters relevance.

Compare that to the Season 1 finale. That finale, as you said, it 'foreshadowed itself'. That's probably a bad word to use, as FOreshadowing is used to hint at something that was going to happen, where as we all knew the Canterlot thing was going to happen. :p

Season 1's Finale had a lot of build up, I think is the better word. Everyone involved in it was characters we had connections with, not two new people we have no connection with.

I will say the jokes tend to be spot on in this episode though. And like the mystery episode, there is a rediculous amount of small details that I loved, and just well done scenes. The many Rarity getting overly excited scenes were wonderful, Fluttershy and Pinkie during the Changling battle were hilarious, and one of my favorites was during the wedding when Apple Jack slipped back on the hat when Rarity was sobbing. XD

And I'll note I hated Twilight and Fluttershy's hair at the end. AJ and RD were pretty cool, and I loved how Rarity's was the same as always.

So as I said, good episode on a whole, but there was to much I felt dragged it down to be satisfying as a Finale.

[Hollycat]

Question, why the heck did the queen TELL everyone in advance she was gonna do this, if she hadn't none of this would have happened.

[NeoCracker]

I'll actually agree with HC on this one.

There are a few explanations I could come up with, but this isn't really based off anything in the episode, and is pure speculation based on next to nothing.

[Agent Proto]

Question, why the heck did the queen TELL everyone in advance she was gonna do this, if she hadn't none of this would have happened.

Because she's an idiot. Even Celestia could see that after she spilled the beans.

[NeoCracker]

Question, why the heck did the queen TELL everyone in advance she was gonna do this, if she hadn't none of this would have happened.

Because she's an idiot. Even Celestia could see that after she spilled the beans.

In her defense, this episode just makes ALL of Canterlot look like idiots too. :p

[Agent Proto]

You had a lot to say, so I'll try to counter some of it.


The biggeset is the finish. Its ending had next to nothing to do with any of our main six characters, and instead falls fully on two characters we have barely had a chance to get to know. I mean the time we've had with Cadence wasn't even half an episode.

A lot of characters were introduced in the same way throughout the show, so it's not just Cadence and Shining Armor.


Then there is the issue of the blatently evil Cadence. How the hell did anyone NOT figure this out? The fake clearly didn't do all that much research, she didn't even realize Twilight was Shining's sister.

The queen kidnapped Cadence and hid her in the underground cavern. She only did this as to overtake Canterlot knowing about the love the Princess had from about everyone. Why would she take the time to study her history? She's not planning to take over Cadence's life. Not everyone noticed because of the stress preparing for the wedding would take, so they didn't think much of it.


You could make the argument that perhaps she was using her magic to do so, but why didn't she just do it to Twilight? If it's because of twilights skill in magic it may not have worked on her, then how would it have fooled Celestia?

She used her magic to take over Cadence's body to fool everybody (but Twilight). Again, everyone thought the stress from the wedding preparations was causing Cadence to act moodier than usual.


I'm not bothered by the Idea of the Shapechangers being here to feed on the inhabitants, but more the plan is a bit fuzzy. First off, did the fake get here before or after the barrier was put up? It seems her goal was to go after SA specifically in order to take down the barrier, but then how did she get in to begin with?

I think the queen manage to get inside using Cadence as her cover. She had to kidnap her to trap her inside the underground cavern.


And I'm bothered by the introduction of Shining too. Not the character or the fact he exists mind you, but it was baddly handled. Twilight was so pissed about this not being told he was getting married? Really? This is a guy who has not come to see her ANY of the times they've been in Canterlot, and the guy she cares SO MUCH about she hasn't mentioned him once in the entirety of these two seasons?

He had the excuse of setting up the magic barrier around Canterlot and the wedding preparations, so he used that as his excuse. Just go along with it, not like he could come up with anything better. :p


And I'm boggled by thier refusal to get Luna involved in the story. They had the perfect opportunity to do so. That's not really a major complaint, just me wondering what went through their head.

http://fc09.deviantart.net/fs70/i/2012/112/7/1/omnipresent_and_omniscient_by_csimadmax-d4x9fje.png :p

Also you forgot to mention the four songs in the finale that make up for the lack of songs in the second half of the season.

[NeoCracker]

I wouldn't expect her to study all of her history, but at least a little bit of it. Knowing he has a sister likely to show up is ever so slightly important. :p

And being stressed over the wedding is hardly an excuse to fail to notice the worlds most obvious fake.

And for your Idea Cadence would had to have left since the raising of the force field.

And she would have to have left alone, during a time Canterlot was considered under threat.

Which would make her and Canterlot guards massive idiots. Your theory requires everyone to be massive idiots.

The fact it's obvious it's a fake 3 seconds into meeting her makes the whole situation difficult to buy into.

And the songs were pleasent enough. A little too cheesy, but still not bad.


Edit: And that image was awesome.

[Agent Proto]

I wouldn't expect her to study all of her history, but at least a little bit of it. Knowing he has a sister likely to show up is ever so slightly important. :p

Like I said earlier, she's an idiot. :p


And being stressed over the wedding is hardly an excuse to fail to notice the worlds most obvious fake. The ponies are too focused on the wedding to notice anything different. Except for Twilight, of course.


And for your Idea Cadence would had to have left since the raising of the force field.

And she would have to have left alone, during a time Canterlot was considered under threat.

Which would make her and Canterlot guards massive idiots. Your theory requires everyone to be massive idiots.

It's still possible, and yes the guards would have been major idiots. Remember how that one guard allowed Twilight inside the library when she was trying to sneak inside during "It's About Time?"

[Hollycat]

Twilight is like the second most important pony, why wouldn't they allow her in, she only was the princess's RIGHT HOOF GIRL for like ever.

Twighlight is probably a celebrity due to her relationship with the princess.

[NeoCracker]

I wouldn't expect her to study all of her history, but at least a little bit of it. Knowing he has a sister likely to show up is ever so slightly important. :p

Like I said earlier, she's an idiot. :p


And being stressed over the wedding is hardly an excuse to fail to notice the worlds most obvious fake. The ponies are too focused on the wedding to notice anything different. Except for Twilight, of course.


And for your Idea Cadence would had to have left since the raising of the force field.

And she would have to have left alone, during a time Canterlot was considered under threat.

Which would make her and Canterlot guards massive idiots. Your theory requires everyone to be massive idiots.

It's still possible, and yes the guards would have been major idiots. Remember how that one guard allowed Twilight inside the library when she was trying to sneak inside during "It's About Time?"

They let her in because he knew her, and it wasn't a big deal in the slightest. :p

Twilight is the one deluding herself into thinking it was a big deal due to her state of Psycosis. :p

[NorthernChaosGod]

I'm going to interrupt your guys' argument with something awesome.

In "This Day Aria", Queen Chrysalis ends her verses in a deceptive cadence and Cadence ends hers in an authentic cadence.
/music theory nerd

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[Yeargdribble]

Not quite. I think the deceptive cadence is in the BBBFF song where all but the last periods ends on an authentic cadence with the final one landing on a deceptive cadence and then Twilight doing a little lick from the theme song at the end.

This Day Aria is really interesting though. I've been trying to figure it out for a while and I just don't have all of the tools to do so. I recognize the scale structure as Phrygian dominant (Freygish) but don't know enough about constructing progressions in that mode.

The Intro "Verse" part at the beginning centers around Db (major) rocking mostly to a flat minor seventh (which I guess would be diatonic in Phrygian dominant except for the raised 5th). The two contrasting "chorus" parts center around the Ab (the dominant of Db), but make more sense when viewed in Db minor.

Chrysalis
The progression is Ab, Dbm, Gbm6, Dbm etc. If you think of it in Db that comes to V-i-iv-i. The oddest part is the first chord of the last phrase... an A (or probably more likely B double-flat). It seems to work as the bVI resolving to V then i.

A deceptive cadence would be something like V-vi or maybe V-ii, but that doesn't happen.

Cadance
The first two 4 bar sets are the exact same as above.
But THEN it gets really interesting.

We get a progression in Db major instead of minor and instead of centering on the dominant we center on tonic. Db Ab/C Bbm7 Fm. So in Db major that's I-V-vi-iii. Aside from the V chord being in first inversion, this is the Pachelbel progression that's so overused... but more importantly, Canon in D is used heavily in weddings (this progression happens while Cadance is leaning against the cart). It can't be an accident if you listen to the moving parts that so closely mimic the original.

The final four bars of this section are just a follow up to that line with Ebm7 (ii7), Bbm (vi), Gb(IV), Db(I). There's a lot of extra stuff on that last chord, but it's still clearly the I chord. Not deceptive... actually it's not authentic either. It's plagal (the amen cadence).

The little 4 bar interlude (as they fly through the air) is awesome too. Db, F/C, D/F#, D. It has a little neapolitan chord action going on after a borrowed bit. I-bIV-N-N. The first neapolitan is in first inversion (as per usual) and then resolves to root before the entire chord takes a parallel step down to Db to reprise the Verse section as a sort of outro.

The big difference is that instead of Am-Db as it was the first time, it seems we step completely out of Db, in fact it's probably a series of secondary functions. Em7, F#, Bm. In the key of B minor it makes sense as a plain iv7-V-i cadence, but if we look at it next to Db we think of it as a iv7/vi-V/vi-i.

While not a classically deceptive cadence (where you feel the dominant of your key leading to I and are interrupted by a sudden move to vi or ii or something) it basically uses a series of a chords, secondary subdominant and dominant to cadence the entire piece on B, which is the vi of the main key.


This thing was masterfully crafted and despite not having as much spunk and catchiness as Winter Wrap-Up and Smile, Smile, Smile, it may be one of my favorites. My wife was also hugely impressed with it. I've watched it a dozen times and still almost lose it when Cadance leans against the cart. Right before, Twilight looks afraid, then Cadance rushes in with desperation, Twilight looks shocked, Cadance streams with tears as Pachelbel's Canon rings over and she talks about her love for Shining Armor, Twilight sees her resolve and her pupils respond as she suddenly realizes the depth of Cadances devotion and helps her free the cart.

Oh god... that part is so overwhelming... and the neapolitan chord standing out starkly as they soar over the abyss right before Cadance lets out her wings.

Okay... I'm gonna go now.

NOTE: The hardest part about writing this post was typing cadence and Cadance differently.

[NeoCracker]

http://i1171.photobucket.com/albums/r551/MylittleProject/GIF/132915312107.gif

[MJN SEIFER]

Thank you for your reply Uncle Big Hands. I have looked through your review of the episode, and to be honest, I do agree with some points on it.


The biggeset is the finish. Its ending had next to nothing to do with any of our main six characters, and instead falls fully on two characters we have barely had a chance to get to know. I mean the time we've had with Cadence wasn't even half an episode.
As much as I loved this episode, for the most part I actually agree to this. I did like how Shining Armor and Cadance were used, and I actually didn't mind them saving the day with their love because I thought that was beautiful. However, it would have been better to have the mane six too.

What I think would have been better, is if they'd kept the ending where Shining and Cadance's love is used to defeat the villain, but it doesn't work to its fullest - the changing thing is too strong, after all she's done, and the mane six use their elements to back the love up. That would actually make this beautiful scene even more heart warming, as it would emphasize the stong link between friendship and love (i.e. love needs friendship to be at full strength, if you catch my meaning.)


Then there is the issue of the blatently evil Cadence. How the hell did anyone NOT figure this out? The fake clearly didn't do all that much research, she didn't even realize Twilight was Shining's sister.

You could make the argument that perhaps she was using her magic to do so, but why didn't she just do it to Twilight? If it's because of twilights skill in magic it may not have worked on her, then how would it have fooled Celestia?
I'll give you the Celestia/Twilight thing at least for now. I think she probably did use her magic on the others, as we saw her use it on Shining. There is a chance that she managed to fool Celestia with the whole "My wedding is too stressful, so I may be a bitch sometimes", but it still sounds dubious. You're probably right here.


I'm not bothered by the Idea of the Shapechangers being here to feed on the inhabitants, but more the plan is a bit fuzzy. First off, did the fake get here before or after the barrier was put up? It seems her goal was to go after SA specifically in order to take down the barrier, but then how did she get in to begin with?
And then there was the actual fight with the Changelings, which was great and fun, but ended up not mattering in the slightest.
I think what Proto said. Also, there's a chance the fight mattered in that the minions could have backed up the Queen, but from the way the "Power of Love" thing happened you may be right. Hence more need for my version.



And I'm bothered by the introduction of Shining too. Not the character or the fact he exists mind you, but it was baddly handled. Twilight was so pissed about this not being told he was getting married? Really? This is a guy who has not come to see her ANY of the times they've been in Canterlot, and the guy she cares SO MUCH about she hasn't mentioned him once in the entirety of these two seasons?
For the first part, I can possibly guess that the reason he was never around was because he was part of the Royal Guards and wouldn't be allowed to socialise with anyone, though I could be wrong. The fact that, Twilight knows Celestia makes this seem like a poor excuse though, but it's up there with other coninuity errors this show has produced.

I get your problem with Twilight not mentioning Shining before now, especially after hearing a song about how close they were when they were younger. It didn't bother me that much that we'd never heard that Twilight had a brother before now, as a lot of shows introduce family members without an prior refferences to them, annoying, I grant you, but that's how it works in writing. You probably didn't notice this, seeing as you hate the CMC, but there was never at any point even the slightest indication that Rarity had a sister either, and then all of a sudden "boom" - there she was. I would have forgiven them more if they had at least covered their tracks with Shining Armor though, like contained a piece of dialogue in which Twilight mentions that they usually write to each other or something, it's just we don't see it. It would be a passable cover up.

I do wonder though, if Lauren knew when she created Shining that he was going to be Twilight's brother? Lauren created both Shining Armor and Cadance, as well as the basis for the storyline before she left the show, but certain things were changed in her absense (Cadance wasn't an alicorn originally), so that could account for it too.


And I'm boggled by thier refusal to get Luna involved in the story. They had the perfect opportunity to do so. That's not really a major complaint, just me wondering what went through their head.
This actually one of the complaints I already had. The more I think of it, the more I think they included Luna purely because they knew that the fans wanted to see her again, but since they had no purpose for her they didn't use her. It was like they were saying "Okay bronies, we included Luna, now shut up about her already!"



Question, why the heck did the queen TELL everyone in advance she was gonna do this, if she hadn't none of this would have happened. For some reason, the bad guys just love explaining their plans in full detail. It happens all the time, in everything - I wouldn't be suprised if there's a trope for it...

Hope no one minds my late response there. I will read through and analyze the music stuff tomorrow, as it looks really interesting. :)

Merged your double posts- ~pike

[Hollycat]

Also Lyra had a speaking line.

[NeoCracker]

I actually wasn't bothered by them bringing up that Sweetie Belle was Rarities sister. It was introduced quite cleanly I thought, and more importantly she wasn't brought up out of the blue to be involved in some pretty big contrivances like Shining Knight did.

[Værn]

For some reason, the bad guys just love explaining their plans in full detail. It happens all the time, in everything - I wouldn't be suprised if there's a trope for it...

Just between you and me (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/JustBetweenYouAndMe), there's something mentioned about this early on in the Evil Overlord List (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/EvilOverlordList).

7. When I've captured my adversary and he says, "Look, before you kill me, will you at least tell me what this is all about?" I'll say, "No." and shoot him. No, on second thought I'll shoot him then say "No."
And one more thing she did wrong, unrelated to revealing her plans but also listed on the EOL...

13. All slain enemies will be cremated, or at least have several rounds of ammunition emptied into them, not left for dead at the bottom of the cliff. The announcement of their deaths, as well as any accompanying celebration, will be deferred until after the aforementioned disposal.