Mafia XXI Day 5: Silent Night [Archive] - Page 2

[M] Mom – Host

08-21-2011, 01:04 PM

Final Fantasy XIII Final Boss Music - "Nascent Requiem" - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ERJc-DJfRU)

Orphan looked on down from on high in his cradle, thinking all was safe, little did he notices the sneaky ninja like person coming up behind him, the masked killer grabbed his head and slit his throat before he even had a chance to say no dont kill me!

Orphan was a Vanilla Townie played by Trollhunter, may he ever rest in pieces!

Elswhere however...

Final Fantasy XIII - Barthandelus Battle Music [HD] - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fH5QcBC0G28)

Bartandelus was walking along thinking he had out done himself having Orphan done in, soon it would truly be time to meet his maker, he was walking along his hopes held high until he was grabbed and shoved into a dark ally and beaten to death with a rubber duck.

Bartandelus was the Mafia Mason played by leader of mortals.

[M] Al - Biker Dad

08-21-2011, 01:59 PM

Mafia...........amongst the masons.............2 more townies dead...............Gilgamesh knows not....................who to trust...................all who voted for Golbez.............except Rajin...........dead.............Rajin............needs to explains himself...............but......................Gilgamesh...........smells..............a frame job....................Rajin.................guilty.........................or...................... .....innocent.........................what does town........................think?

[M] Jeff - Single Dad

08-21-2011, 02:05 PM

Ha! I knew that Orphan fellow was pulling our legs with that fake role-claim of his, but nobody would listen to old man Jecht, or even give my opinion any thoughts. I did say it meant nothing. Well, at least he wasn't lynched or anything... Looks like one of the Mafia people was also killed, and I think this pretty much confirms we have a serial killer on the loose, and guess what guys? I don't think its Gilgamesh with the way he speaks. I know in some past games the serial killer had to meet a certain condition to earn a kill, but I call bullshit on that. If there is a serial killer, he sure didn't need to act like an idiot or get others to act like him just to get a nightkill. Shit, I think that pretty lady Jihl was trying to cast Gilgamesh as a serial killer so he could get the lynch, because you know, since we had two straight nights with two kills. So yeah, I'm gonna pull my super awesome Jecht Shot on that bitch, she certainly deserves a good spanking!

##VOTE: Jihl Nabaat

[M] Al - Biker Dad

08-21-2011, 02:19 PM

Gilgamesh...........agrees with...........Jecht..........Jihl Nabaat..............needs to explain..................Gilgamesh...........will not vote.................however............until..........Rajin........explains

Carl the Llama

08-21-2011, 02:25 PM

Oh and Day 3 will end at 1900 GMT tomorrow (thats 28 hours 35 minutes from this post)

[M] Mike - Funny Dad

08-21-2011, 02:54 PM

now I have to do 50 push ups. lets hope the next person flips mafia

[M] Dave – Stepdad

08-21-2011, 03:11 PM

Barthandelus;3014107']I'm just going to place a vote down right now. I'll change it later if I find a better candidate. My vote will be for Golbez, not only because of his little amount of explanation in the last day, but also because of his most recent post, just a little while back

Golbez;3014067']I would no vote, but that's first round shenanigans. It worries me that we've lost a cop and we have a vigilante on the loose. It especially makes me nervous, because I'm unsure of how many useful, not entirely dangerous, special roles we have left. I've never been in this kind of situation before.

This, to me, seems like a classic example of "Trying to look like I said something when really I haven't". In addition to what he has done in Day 1, Golbez has yet to say anything of merit, and yet he has posted enough to make his presence known.

##Vote: Golbez

Also, to comment on Gilgamesh, we really can't say anything about his role from his posting style. If it's in his role to post like that, that doesn't mean he's a killer. If it's not in his role and he's just posting like that to be funny or something, it doesn't make him a mafia. It doesn't make him a town, either, but it doesn't tip the scales in any way.

As for Orphan, I'd like an explanation on what you mean by Nuclear Reactor. Is that your roleclaim? Also, why wouldn't you use the little time that you have to at least say something of importance? Why haven't you been paying attention to the game thread?

With Sephiroth changing his vote, that doesn't make him a scum. He didn't know that Seymour was a cop, no one did except Seymour. As for why he chose Seymour instead of Golbez, only a lynch for Golbez or a lynch for Sephiroth might possibly tell us the answer to that, which further strengthens my vote for Golbez.

He's clearly defended Gilgamesh and Sephiroth, but not with Orphan.
Anyone know what that means? :D

[M] Dave – Stepdad

08-21-2011, 03:59 PM

I have VERY BAD internet today! I can't get all my posts in :argh:

1. Anyways here's my thoughts on some people.

Hojo - I believe you could be the lyncher. If you're not then we're going to find out the moment the lyncher decides to reveal himself. But I think we can believe you for now.

Jihl Nabaat - Seeing how you questioned Barthandelus I believe you might have done some justice to yourself but nothing conclusive though.

Siefer - Where is Seifer? (is Timekeeper playing him?) He was nearly lynched on day 1 and now he doesn't even show up.

Gilgamesh and Sephiroth - Seeing how Barthandelus said nice things about you two and not about Orphan makes me question your identities.

2. Now for everyone who voted for Golbez. I'm afraid someone in there is a mason. Why? Because masons can communicate with each other. That means that they probably planned to vote together. However Barthandelus was a lying cheat so he must have tricked him/them to vote for innocent Golbez.

Now the people that voted for Golbez are :
Rajin, Barthandelus, Orphan, Necron.
We know Orphan was an innocent victim. So that leaves Rajin and Necron. One of them is mason probably, the other is mafia or just someone like Orphan who jumped the wagon.

What I believe is, the mafia could have split up. One of them acting with the masons and the others voting someone else. And that someone else could have been Orphan. Which puts me, Fujin and Gabranth into question. But Orphan was killed, so that would help lighten our suspicion, "who in their right mind would kill someone he has voted for?" That's like ultra suspicious. However I know I'm innocent. So for me it only leaves Fujin and Gabranth, for you however it's the three of us :p.

3. About night kills
The mafia did Orphan in that's for sure. But the serial killer or something else did Barthandelus in (why is everyone insisting on the serial killer anyway, why not vigilante?). Now why was Orphan killed? I've been playing as a mafian for 3 games straight so I know that the deaths are usually planned. Night 1 kills are usually the only ones that are random. Was Orphan killed to remove doubt from the people who voted for him? (though that includes innocent me so i don't know why the mafia would do that , but of course I can't prove it)
Though if the mafians are noobs that means the reverse : they killed Orphan to make us three look bad. I doubt it though.

So those are some of my thoughts. I'll try to get the rest in...if the thread ever loads.

[M] Al - Biker Dad

08-21-2011, 04:06 PM

Gilgamesh thinks........Orphan.............was killed..........for his...........role..................claim.............................Gilgamesh doesn't get..................why Queen B...............questions Gilgamesh identity.....................Gilgamesh is town...............not............scum............not...........serial killer

[M] Al - Biker Dad

08-21-2011, 04:07 PM

Why...................nobody else.................find strange...................Rajin only Golbez voter..............still alive?

[M] Dave – Stepdad

08-21-2011, 04:10 PM

There's also Necron...

[M] Al - Biker Dad

08-21-2011, 04:15 PM

Queen Brahne;3014409']There's also Necron...

Gilgamesh sorry.............only read last vote count.............then Rajin & Necron should explain..........confused Necron & Orphan

[M] Caprica

08-21-2011, 04:42 PM

At Jecht: Really? Up until I posted no one even commented on two night kills, why would I bring it to everyone's attention if I were the serial killer? Gilgamesh is still posting strangely and has not done as I requested, which is to explain his posting style if he is a Pro Town role.

At Hojo: I didn't get a chance to respond to you before the day ended yesterday but this is what I've thought about and this is my response to your role claim. So what? If we had a Reviver amongst us why would that player waste his ability on bringing back a role that is useless to Town like Lynchee? If the role existed, don't you think the Reviver would have brought our cop back by now? So I can't imagine anyone daft enough to waste his time bringing back a role that has been night killed just so one player can convince us all to lynch them and win the game. So you can go ahead and vote to lynch a dead body if you want, or you can suck it up and help Town pinpoint the Mafia.

At the Masons: This is good news, I am happy that the Mafia Mason was taken out early. You all should have a better understanding about who is who just by reexamining everything Barthandalus.

Now for Barthandalus; I knew something was up with him, the way he bullied Goldez about not contributing and yet not contributing anything himself. One thing though, Goldez could have tied up the vote by placing a vote on Orphan and that would have extended the day, and maybe even saved his life. Everyone has to vote, everyone has to contribute, or you might as well be Mafia fodder.

[M] Athena

08-21-2011, 04:44 PM

I am finding the discussions between you two most disturbing. And Gilgamesh, I will have your sister punch you in the dick if you continue to type like that. Now, I don't think that we need to focus on the lynchers of Golbez. It would be folly to assume the mafia definitely had a hand in their lynching. We should be looking at all suspects. Just because a vote didn't lynch someone does not mean that they are not mafia votes.

[M] Walter - Smart Dad

08-21-2011, 04:48 PM

Well, this game sucks so far. Hmm....

I also find Jihl and Seph suspcious, but who I really want to hear from is Gilgamesh. This game is far too chotic for my dead heart to take. As a sake of organization: Gilgamesh, why are you talking the way you do? If you're a townie there's an admittedly small chance you may have to speak that way, but it's distracting nonetheless. However, it's many a Serial Killer (or Mafia) tactic to speak on such a manner to give people the impression that's what their role does. It's smart! So explain yourself.

[M] Caprica

08-21-2011, 05:02 PM

You find this discussion disturbing? What discussion disturbs you? The thought that we must look at who voted for who now that we know at least one Mafia alignment? Well, let's look at it:

The Shadow Lord;3014252'][5] Golbez - Rajin, Bartandelus, Orphan, Necron, unvoted

[1] Gilgamesh - Jihl Nabaat

[2] Kefka - Gilgamesh, Unvoted

[2] Kuja - Jecht, Unvoted

[3] Orphan - Fujin, Queen Brahne, Judge Gabranth

[1] Ultros? - Hojo

[1] Seifer *

[1] Jenova *

[1] Zeromus *

[1] Sephiroth *

*Unvoted

10 Votes needed for speed Lynch otherwise we have just about 25 minutes left on the clock.

If we are going to not look at who voted, lets look at who didn't vote. With Barthandalus able to persuade the Masons on how they should vote, maybe Mafia just let the Town decide, after all, none of these non voting roles were in jeopardy.

[M] Caprica

08-21-2011, 05:04 PM

I should say, other than Goldez, the non voting posts were not in jeopardy. I already pointed out that Goldez should have voted to save himself.

[M] Athena

08-21-2011, 05:07 PM

Indeed. But what I meant by "disturbing" was how easily queen brahne and Gilgy were steering this investigation. Pointing out minor discrepencies but not voting as though they wanted the rest of the town to do the leg work allowing them to lead and have us lynch their desired targets. Like the mafia would do.

[M] Al - Biker Dad

08-21-2011, 05:18 PM

Gilgamesh speaks................as Gilgamesh does.................because Gilgamesh wants too.......................................not role related......................just....................Gilgamesh........................Gilgamesh has not voted yet.....................because Gilgamesh............wants to see...........................more conversation......................Gilgamesh could vote Jihl................as Jihl............without evidence....................sees Gilgamesh................as a serial killer.............................but why else................Gilgamesh can direct investigation.....................because town is silent..........................

[M] Dave – Stepdad

08-21-2011, 05:21 PM

Bullshit. I already stated my opinion on Gilgamesh and Sephiroth. And that I am equally suspicious about them because of Barthandelus. I'll only vote after I decide which one.
My post is open to discussion. No one is leading you anywhere.

[M] Al - Biker Dad

08-21-2011, 05:22 PM

Jihl's point......................about non voters.....................is very interesting.........................Seifer & Sephiroth..................focuses of conversation Day 1........................but suddenly not....................Gilgamesh isn't the only.......................enigma..................it would appear.............

[M] Dave – Stepdad

08-21-2011, 05:24 PM

But if your credibility depended on it wouldn't you stop talking like that?

[M] Caprica

08-21-2011, 05:24 PM

At Zeromus: Hmmm, well Queen Brahne does make a good point. Barthandalus was a Mafia and a Mason and could have easily persuaded either group to vote in a particular way. The problem is deciphering which group did what, only they know how they acted. Did Barthandalus tell the Mafia to lie low, let the Masons knock off a Townie, or did he sit in the background of the Mason Hall and just inform the Mafia which way the Masons were leaning so they could add to the vote as needed. It is hard to determine from the outside, so what we need is more discussion.

At Jenova: I totally agree, Gilgamesh needs to tell us why he is posting the way he is and stop ignoring our requests for him to explain himself.

[M] Walter - Smart Dad

08-21-2011, 05:25 PM

Gilgamesh, could you even attempt to make a point that isn't made in half-ellipses half-tomfoolery?

[M] Al - Biker Dad

08-21-2011, 05:27 PM

Oh my god can people not see role playing when it's right in front of them, sometimes I actually wonder................why I play this game

[M] Walter - Smart Dad

08-21-2011, 05:28 PM

Don't roleplay. It's annoying. And I would believe your point if you left the ellipses out of it.

[M] Walter - Smart Dad

08-21-2011, 05:39 PM

SO, motivate me to do otherwise: ##VOTE: GIRUGAMESH!!!~

[M] Caprica

08-21-2011, 05:45 PM

You have not really given him a need to feel motivated with your fake vote. :(

[M] Walter - Smart Dad

08-21-2011, 06:03 PM

Oh my god. This game is ridiculous. :lol:

[M] Athena

08-21-2011, 06:05 PM

Okay, I am going to go with a hunch, it may be a bad way to explain it, but if I am right then we have been led quite easily in this game of Villains.
For that (lack of) reason:
##Vote: Queen Brahne

[M] Walter - Smart Dad

08-21-2011, 06:10 PM

Oh my god, make it stop! :lol:

[M] Dave – Stepdad

08-21-2011, 06:11 PM

I don't really think that Gilgamesh is suspicious because of the way he talks to be honest. Because he didn't always use ellipsis and nobody mimicked his manner of speech on day 2 (i did on day 1 though). So to think he's a serial killer just because of that is not enough. He could be a vigilante or perhaps we're completely wrong about this.
I find him suspicious only because he was on Barthandelus's nice side.

[M] Al - Biker Dad

08-21-2011, 06:13 PM

Whether you believe.................Gilgamesh.............or not...................is irrelevant......................town needs to stop..............grasping at straws

[M] Dave – Stepdad

08-21-2011, 06:21 PM

Zeromus;3014442']Okay, I am going to go with a hunch, it may be a bad way to explain it, but if I am right then we have been led quite easily in this game of Villains.
For that (lack of) reason:
##Vote: Queen Brahne

Really? You're following a hunch, on day 3? After I went through the trouble of rereading the thread over and over in search of clues and laying them out in the open for everyone to think about.
*meanwhile Freya is laughing her ass off*

[M] Dave – Stepdad

08-21-2011, 06:24 PM

I would really like to hear Hojo's opinion as he is the only one who I believe to be innocent. Reason : His vote against Ultros was counted by the moderator. (otherwise dd is getting a beating)

[M] Al - Biker Dad

08-21-2011, 06:24 PM

I don't see where..........the so-called link..........between Gilgamesh.........& Barthandalus............exists............Barthandalus..........doubts my guilt............and suddenly...........we are linked..............I don't believe..............I addressed..............Barthandalus........until now....................why punish Gilgamesh...........for playing the game...................when others have gone silent.................

[M] Al - Biker Dad

08-21-2011, 06:27 PM

While I agreed with Jecht.............you find Gilgamesh..........more suspicious...........then the man..........who votes................then leaves..................

demondude

08-21-2011, 06:28 PM

[M] Dave – Stepdad

08-21-2011, 06:29 PM

I know...

[M] Dave – Stepdad

08-21-2011, 06:30 PM

@ Gilgamesh. Sorry but I didn't get any of that o.o Men who votes leaves???

[M] Al - Biker Dad

08-21-2011, 06:34 PM

Jecht! Jecht voted then left

[M] Athena

08-21-2011, 06:39 PM

Gilgamesh;3014461']Jecht! Jecht voted then left
Leaving does not imply guilt. I was not here at all yesterday because I had farm work to do. That does not make me guilty. Just because Jecht left does not mean he is guilty. Perhaps he has things to do in RL like dissolve a body in acid.

[M] Walter - Smart Dad

08-21-2011, 06:41 PM

The way you speak, Gil, can be significant. Especially considering it's a common and valid way to hide your role.

[M] Al - Biker Dad

08-21-2011, 06:42 PM

Yes but given how little he has pointed in this game it doesn't scream innoncence either. Sounds like you're defending him Zeromus..........something to hide maybe?

Carl the Llama

08-21-2011, 06:43 PM

Queen Brahne;3014451']I would really like to hear Hojo's opinion as he is the only one who I believe to be innocent. Reason : His vote against Ultros was counted by the moderator. (otherwise dd is getting a beating)

Breaking news: There are two mods.

Queen Brahne;3014459']I know...
What our dear Queen Brahne is saying is "I am afraid to be eaten by a fucking giant dragon god, so I will bitch slap you even if it was KD who posted that vote count ^^"

[M] Athena

08-21-2011, 06:44 PM

OK I am going to stand up for Gilgamesh here for one reason, because I know who is playing the role. He is talking like that to piss all of you off. Me especially. He annoys people in RL too by acting in annoying manners. Just leave him to it. But, I still think he could be scum.

[M] Al - Biker Dad

08-21-2011, 06:44 PM

Jenova;3014469']The way you speak, Gil, can be significant. Especially considering it's a common and valid way to hide your role.

Point taken........not proof of guilt........or otherwise

[M] Walter - Smart Dad

08-21-2011, 06:44 PM

You are not allowed to know other people's accounts~!

[M] Walter - Smart Dad

08-21-2011, 06:45 PM

And no, it isn't proof. But you would be far more likely to hide a negative role than a positive one.

[M] Athena

08-21-2011, 06:47 PM

Jenova;3014474']You are not allowed to know other people's accounts~!
I figured it out. He is easy to spot. Get over it.

[M] Dave – Stepdad

08-21-2011, 06:47 PM

Why would he want to piss us off? People are considering to lynch him for that reason. And if he's town he shouldn't be so suicidal as it's not beneficial for us -.-. I don't get it.

[M] Walter - Smart Dad

08-21-2011, 06:47 PM

I dreamed this (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E24Jl1jTixY&feature=related) when a slept.

[M] Athena

08-21-2011, 06:48 PM

Queen Brahne;3014477']Why would he want to piss us off? People are considering to lynch him for that reason. And if he's town he shouldn't be so suicidal as it's not beneficial for us -.-. I don't get it.
No but he plays like its a game. So he doesn't mind losing. But he enjoys fucking with everyone here. So the way he types may not be significant.

[M] Walter - Smart Dad

08-21-2011, 06:48 PM

And why would someone deliberately try to act in a manner that makes their guilt ambigious if they have nothing to hide?

[M] Walter - Smart Dad

08-21-2011, 06:49 PM

If that's the case, why keep a Saboteur?

[M] Walter - Smart Dad

08-21-2011, 06:49 PM

And WHY would you try to speak for him?

[M] Al - Biker Dad

08-21-2011, 06:50 PM

Jenova;3014475']And no, it isn't proof. But you would be far more likely to hide a negative role than a positive one.

Point taken, but seriously nobody finds Jecht's behaviour suspicious? Or Seifer or Sephiroth for that matter?

[M] Walter - Smart Dad

08-21-2011, 06:50 PM

We do but they sure as hell aren't here to defend themselves.

[M] Walter - Smart Dad

08-21-2011, 06:51 PM

And I see now you're trying to speak normally. :colbert:

[M] Al - Biker Dad

08-21-2011, 06:53 PM

Jenova;3014482']If that's the case, why keep a Saboteur?

So basically town should vote for me because you don't like the way I play Mafia.........wow

[M] Walter - Smart Dad

08-21-2011, 06:54 PM

We don't like that you're deliberately sabotaging the town, according to your buddy Zermous.

So yeah, that's why everyone votes for people. Your arguments are flimsy.

[M] Al - Biker Dad

08-21-2011, 06:54 PM

Jenova;3014486']And I see now you're trying to speak normally. :colbert:

Because you sucked the fun out of this for me :colbert: See Zeromus this was why I wanted to get a replacement :lol:

[M] Dave – Stepdad

08-21-2011, 06:55 PM

What our dear Queen Brahne is saying is "I am afraid to be eaten by a smurfing giant dragon god, so I will bitch slap you even if it was KD who posted that vote count ^^"

I'd rep that XD

Jecht is well...a hit and run case. But that's all I can gather about him. He seems to have voted random people.

[M] Al - Biker Dad

08-21-2011, 06:56 PM

People not being able to read between the lines doesn't make me a sabotuer. You know what I'm done arguing with you Jenova

##Vote: [M] Jecht

[M] Walter - Smart Dad

08-21-2011, 06:56 PM

You should be aware of the way you're acting.

And how do you keep being able to talk to Zeromus?

[M] Athena

08-21-2011, 06:56 PM

Gilgamesh;3014489']
Jenova;3014486']And I see now you're trying to speak normally. :colbert:

Because you sucked the fun out of this for me :colbert: See Zeromus this was why I wanted to get a replacement :lol:
Replacements don't fuck with the town. You'd be disappointed without shenanigans.

[M] Walter - Smart Dad

08-21-2011, 06:56 PM

WE SHOULDN'T HAVE TO!!! BEING NEEDLESSLY ABSTRACT IS POOR GAMEPLAY!

[M] Walter - Smart Dad

08-21-2011, 06:57 PM

And now you're avoiding my arguments. Welp, my vote stays.

[M] Athena

08-21-2011, 07:00 PM

Jenova;3014494']WE SHOULDN'T HAVE TO!!! BEING NEEDLESSLY ABSTRACT IS POOR GAMEPLAY!
But it is hella fun to watch. The reason your vote is a bad one is because your vote was for him basically being annoying and unhelpful. This is a wasted vote.

[M] Al - Biker Dad

08-21-2011, 07:00 PM

Jenova;3014494']WE SHOULDN'T HAVE TO!!! BEING NEEDLESSLY ABSTRACT IS POOR GAMEPLAY!

Go back through previous games of mafia here, I'm not the first player to do it. I was being abstract because i felt like it get over it.

[M] Walter - Smart Dad

08-21-2011, 07:01 PM

No. It's because when I called him on being annoying and unhelpful he didn't do shit to make anyone think otherwise.

And sure, it may be fun, but it's worthless. Especially when the player concedes as such.

[M] Walter - Smart Dad

08-21-2011, 07:02 PM

Gilgamesh;3014497']
Jenova;3014494']WE SHOULDN'T HAVE TO!!! BEING NEEDLESSLY ABSTRACT IS POOR GAMEPLAY!

Go back through previous games of mafia here, I'm not the first player to do it. I was being abstract because i felt like it get over it.SO!? Then why are you playing? Are you actively trying to fuck over the town?

[M] Al - Biker Dad

08-21-2011, 07:02 PM

Jenova;3014499']No. It's because when I called him on being annoying and unhelpful he didn't do shit to make anyone think otherwise.

And sure, it may be fun, but it's worthless. Especially when the player concedes as such.

And yet again somebody needs to be reminded me are playing a game :lol:

[M] Al - Biker Dad

08-21-2011, 07:03 PM

We are playing a game even :lol:

[M] Athena

08-21-2011, 07:03 PM

Gilgamesh;3014501']
Jenova;3014499']No. It's because when I called him on being annoying and unhelpful he didn't do shit to make anyone think otherwise.

And sure, it may be fun, but it's worthless. Especially when the player concedes as such.

And yet again somebody needs to be reminded me are playing a game :lol:
Some people just don't like losing, like mafia. XD

[M] Walter - Smart Dad

08-21-2011, 07:05 PM

Yes, yet there are expectations when playing a game. One cannot play a game and wish to actively sabotage the other players' efforts. You can't just play the parts you want to and expect people to like you for it.

I ask you this: Do you care if you live?

[M] Al - Biker Dad

08-21-2011, 07:05 PM

Zeromus;3014503']
Gilgamesh;3014501']
Jenova;3014499']No. It's because when I called him on being annoying and unhelpful he didn't do shit to make anyone think otherwise.

And sure, it may be fun, but it's worthless. Especially when the player concedes as such.

And yet again somebody needs to be reminded me are playing a game :lol:

That would be a weaker reason to vote for Jenova then why they voted for me :lol:
Some people just don't like losing, like mafia. XD

[M] Walter - Smart Dad

08-21-2011, 07:06 PM

Zeromus;3014503']
Gilgamesh;3014501']
Jenova;3014499']No. It's because when I called him on being annoying and unhelpful he didn't do tit to make anyone think otherwise.

And sure, it may be fun, but it's worthless. Especially when the player concedes as such.

And yet again somebody needs to be reminded me are playing a game :lol:
Some people just don't like losing, like mafia. XD
I hate this post so much. :lol:

Well yeah, it's irritating. You are expecting to play the game properly, so play it. The town is about to lose and you do nothing. That sounds scummy to me.

[M] Al - Biker Dad

08-21-2011, 07:06 PM

Jenova;3014504']Yes, yet there are expectations when playing a game. One cannot play a game and wish to actively sabotage the other players' efforts. You can't just play the parts you want to and expect people to like you for it.

I ask you this: Do you care if you live?

Number 1 you need to take a chill pill or 10. Number 2 Is that some kind of threat? Have we found our serial killer ;)

[M] Walter - Smart Dad

08-21-2011, 07:07 PM

Or rather, on their way to losing.

[M] Athena

08-21-2011, 07:07 PM

@Gilgamesh, why did you just try to edit my post in the quote reply?

[M] Walter - Smart Dad

08-21-2011, 07:07 PM

Gilgamesh;3014507']
Jenova;3014504']Yes, yet there are expectations when playing a game. One cannot play a game and wish to actively sabotage the other players' efforts. You can't just play the parts you want to and expect people to like you for it.

I ask you this: Do you care if you live?

Number 1 you need to take a chill pill or 10. Number 2 Is that some kind of threat? Have we found our serial killer ;)
You need a depressant.

And no. I'm asking you seriously: Do you care if you win or not?

[M] Dave – Stepdad

08-21-2011, 07:08 PM

...*smurfs self*

[M] Al - Biker Dad

08-21-2011, 07:08 PM

Jenova;3014506']Well yeah, it's irritating. You are expecting to play the game properly, so play it. The town is about to lose and you do nothing. That sounds scummy to me.

If we spent as much time arguing as finding mafia town wouldn't be losing! Apart from me is there any other player you find guilty for reasons other than you don't like the way they play mafia ;)

[M] Walter - Smart Dad

08-21-2011, 07:11 PM

Oh please, now you're putting words in my mouth. I don't like that you admit you're sabotaging the town and you think I should be okay with that. And then put the heat on me for noting as such. It's weak arguments, this is a game of strategy and you don't play it as such you'll alienate people and have them question your loyalty. ESPECIALLY in a team game.

Zeromus will seem very suspicious depending on how you flip. :D

[M] Athena

08-21-2011, 07:12 PM

Jenova;3014513']Oh please, now you're putting words in my mouth. I don't like that you admit you're sabotaging the town and you think I should be okay with that. And then put the heat on me for noting as such. It's weak arguments, this is a game of strategy and you don't play it as such you'll alienate people and have them question your loyalty. ESPECIALLY in a team game.

Zeromus will seem very suspicious depending on how you flip. :D
Don't drag me into this. I said he might be mafia. I simply said his way of typing was designed to annoy us. I have no idea if he is scum or not.

[M] Walter - Smart Dad

08-21-2011, 07:14 PM

But now you're defending him and his flimsy arguments. Or I might just be looking to much into you. :lol:

[M] Al - Biker Dad

08-21-2011, 07:14 PM

Jenova;3014513']Oh please, now you're putting words in my mouth. I don't like that you admit you're sabotaging the town and you think I should be okay with that. And then put the heat on me for noting as such. It's weak arguments, this is a game of strategy and you don't play it as such you'll alienate people and have them question your loyalty. ESPECIALLY in a team game.

Zeromus will seem very suspicious depending on how you flip. :D

I AM NOT SABOTAGING TOWN. You think I am sabotaging town because you don't like how I play. Get over it vote me if you like I don't care.

Anybody else want to weigh in on Jecht?

[M] Athena

08-21-2011, 07:18 PM

Jenova;3014515']But now you're defending him and his flimsy arguments. Or I might just be looking to much into you. :lol:
I never defended him. I joked along at your rage and I said that his typing was designed to annoy us. I posted earlier he may still be scum.

[M] Walter - Smart Dad

08-21-2011, 07:18 PM

GAAHHH SOMEONE WHO MANUFACTURES WEAK ARGUMENTS, POSTS IN A POINTLESS FASHION, AND SUSPECTS EVERYONE WHO TRIES TO "RUIN HIS FUN" IS SABOTAGING WHETHER YOU ARE DOING IT DELIBERATELY OR NOT

djgasdbh,fhesfse,fhasejk

[M] Walter - Smart Dad

08-21-2011, 07:19 PM

Could we please here from someone else? Am I being unreasonable or what?

[M] Mom – Host

08-21-2011, 07:20 PM

I'm the bomb.

[M] Athena

08-21-2011, 07:21 PM

Jenova;3014519']Could we please here from someone else? Am I being unreasonable or what?
A little unreasonable. But I see your point. We need to focus on a proper investigation that arguing about posting styles.

[M] Athena

08-21-2011, 07:21 PM

The Shadow Lord;3014520']I'm the bomb.
Smurf off. We're busy.

[M] Walter - Smart Dad

08-21-2011, 07:22 PM

Well, I know you think I'm being unreasonable. But can you at least admit Gil's defenses are flimsy and needlessly accusatory? Do you think I'm suspicious?

[M] Mom – Host

08-21-2011, 07:23 PM

It takes a lot of effort to play badly.

[M] Al - Biker Dad

08-21-2011, 07:24 PM

Jenova;3014523']Well, I know you think I'm being unreasonable. But can you at least admit Gil's defenses are flimsy and needlessly accusatory? Do you think I'm suspicious?

I don't think you're suspicious but you certainly need some prozac

[M] Athena

08-21-2011, 07:24 PM

Jenova;3014523']Well, I know you think I'm being unreasonable. But can you at least admit Gil's defenses are flimsy and needlessly accusatory? Do you think I'm suspicious?
I think everyone is suspicious. But why have we not taken a look at inactives. They may be active and not posting. Seriously.

[M] Al - Biker Dad

08-21-2011, 07:26 PM

Zeromus;3014526']
Jenova;3014523']Well, I know you think I'm being unreasonable. But can you at least admit Gil's defenses are flimsy and needlessly accusatory? Do you think I'm suspicious?
I think everyone is suspicious. But why have we not taken a look at inactives. They may be active and not posting. Seriously.

Kefka, Seifer & Sephiroth anyone?

[M] Walter - Smart Dad

08-21-2011, 07:26 PM

There's a bunch of inactives. I think Judge Gabranth is particularly suspicious. Come, Gabranth! Prove your guilt!

[M] Walter - Smart Dad

08-21-2011, 07:30 PM

I guess I should do this: ##Unvote: GIRUGAMESH!!!!

Seifer, Sephiroth, Kefka, and Gabranth! COme out and plaaaa-yaaay~!

[M] Dave – Stepdad

08-21-2011, 07:32 PM

Gilgamesh has 666 posts. That's suspicious!

[M] Al - Biker Dad

08-21-2011, 07:33 PM

Perhaps a few votes on one of them could get them out of hiding quicker? I would add Kuja to that list also

[M] Athena

08-21-2011, 07:34 PM

Queen Brahne;3014532']Gilgamesh has 666 posts. That's suspicious!
The actual number of the beast is 616. So not really.

[M] Al - Biker Dad

08-21-2011, 07:34 PM

Queen Brahne;3014532']Gilgamesh has 666 posts. That's suspicious!

Oh my god not this again :lol:

[M] Walter - Smart Dad

08-21-2011, 07:38 PM

I'm going to vote for Gabranth.

##Vote: Gabranth

What if I told you I had a way to determine he may be Mafia?

[M] Dave – Stepdad

08-21-2011, 07:39 PM

...seriously?

[M] Athena

08-21-2011, 07:39 PM

Jenova;3014536']I'm going to vote for Gabranth.

##Vote: Gabranth

What if I told you I had a way to determine he may be Mafia?
Then I would be interested yet doubtful. Caution and critical thinking powers ACTIVATE!

[M] Al - Biker Dad

08-21-2011, 07:39 PM

Jenova;3014536']I'm going to vote for Gabranth.

##Vote: Gabranth

What if I told you I had a way to determine he may be Mafia?

I would be very very interested so interested I'll change my vote

##unvote: [M] Jecht
##Vote: [M] Judge Gabranth

[M] Dave – Stepdad

08-21-2011, 07:40 PM

You're pulling our leg right? If that's so why not vote from the beginning?

[M] Al - Biker Dad

08-21-2011, 07:43 PM

Queen Brahne;3014540']You're pulling our leg right? If that's so why not vote from the beginning?

Number 1 To angry at me to focus Number 2 He may be indirectly claiming an investigative role

[M] Walter - Smart Dad

08-21-2011, 07:46 PM

The way my role works he could have easily been someone else. I decided to gun for Gil in attempt to fuel discussion to no avail.

So, with nothing to lose, I present you this: I am the Chosen One.

I can use a night power on someone every night and get a random role's power on them. Last night I got Watcher and used it on Oprhan. Gabranth entered his house. Naturally, it would be likely to assume he did the killing, making him likely Serial Killer or Mafia.

[M] Athena

08-21-2011, 07:49 PM

Jenova;3014542']The way my role works he could have easily been someone else. I decided to gun for Gil in attempt to fuel discussion to no avail.

So, with nothing to lose, I present you this: I am the Chosen One.

I can use a night power on someone every night and get a random role's power on them. Last night I got Watcher and used it on Oprhan. Gabranth entered his house. Naturally, it would be likely to assume he did the killing, making him likely Serial Killer or Mafia.
You realise if we take you at your word and you are wrong, you will be confirmed mafia and instant retribution will be had.

[M] Dave – Stepdad

08-21-2011, 07:49 PM

Chosen one huh?
And what did you get on night 1?

[M] Al - Biker Dad

08-21-2011, 07:50 PM

Jenova;3014542']The way my role works he could have easily been someone else. I decided to gun for Gil in attempt to fuel discussion to no avail.

So, with nothing to lose, I present you this: I am the Chosen One.

I can use a night power on someone every night and get a random role's power on them. Last night I got Watcher and used it on Oprhan. Gabranth entered his house. Naturally, it would be likely to assume he did the killing, making him likely Serial Killer or Mafia.

Okay I'm uneasy at this given that all of a sudden you have decided to share. But given that it also sounds a bit like a modified Jack of all trades I'll humor you

[M] Walter - Smart Dad

08-21-2011, 07:52 PM

Night One I abstained from doing anything in the hope I wouldn't get a killing role. Night 2 I got Faith Healer and used it on Fujin.

[M] Athena

08-21-2011, 07:52 PM

Gilgamesh;3014545']
Jenova;3014542']The way my role works he could have easily been someone else. I decided to gun for Gil in attempt to fuel discussion to no avail.

So, with nothing to lose, I present you this: I am the Chosen One.

I can use a night power on someone every night and get a random role's power on them. Last night I got Watcher and used it on Oprhan. Gabranth entered his house. Naturally, it would be likely to assume he did the killing, making him likely Serial Killer or Mafia.

Okay I'm uneasy at this given that all of a sudden you have decided to share. But given that it also sounds a bit like a modified Jack of all trades I'll humor you
Jack of all trade, Master of Bates.

[M] Walter - Smart Dad

08-21-2011, 07:52 PM

If you want you can lynch Gabranth and see for yourself.

[M] Walter - Smart Dad

08-21-2011, 07:53 PM

Or do nothinhg. :lol:

[M] Walter - Smart Dad

08-21-2011, 07:54 PM

And again, I'm not 100% sure of anything, but seeing he's the ONLY person in Orphan's house he probably did it.

[M] Al - Biker Dad

08-21-2011, 07:54 PM

Jenova;3014548']If you want you can lynch Gabranth and see for yourself.

Risky but I like it

[M] Dave – Stepdad

08-21-2011, 07:54 PM

Jenova;3014546']Night One I abstained from doing anything in the hope I wouldn't get a killing role. Night 2 I got Faith Healer and used it on Fujin.

Liar Liar Pants on Fire!

There's only been two nights. If you didn't use it on night one and you used Faith Healer on night 2...then when did you watch Gabranth?

[M] Walter - Smart Dad

08-21-2011, 07:56 PM

Queen Brahne;3014552']
Jenova;3014546']Night One I abstained from doing anything in the hope I wouldn't get a killing role. Night 2 I got Faith Healer and used it on Fujin.

Liar Liar Pants on Fire!

There's only been two nights. If you didn't use it on night one and you used Faith Healer on night 2...then when did you watch Gabranth?
Night 2.

[M] Athena

08-21-2011, 07:57 PM

[M] Caprica

08-21-2011, 07:57 PM

If Gabranth did kill Orphan he is not the serial killer, because the Mafia would not have taken out the Mafia Mason, that was there most powerful role against Town.

This is an interesting role claim Jenova, I too, want to know what you did with your role on Night 1.

[M] Walter - Smart Dad

08-21-2011, 07:57 PM

Well that's embarassing, no wonder I thought I did nothing on Night 1. :lol:

[M] Athena

08-21-2011, 07:57 PM

Jenova;3014553']
Queen Brahne;3014552']
Jenova;3014546']Night One I abstained from doing anything in the hope I wouldn't get a killing role. Night 2 I got Faith Healer and used it on Fujin.

Liar Liar Pants on Fire!

There's only been two nights. If you didn't use it on night one and you used Faith Healer on night 2...then when did you watch Gabranth?
Night 2.You had 2 night actions in the same night? I smell Mafia.

[M] Walter - Smart Dad

08-21-2011, 07:59 PM

I made a mistake. I protected Fujin Night 1. xDDDD I thought it was Day 4 because I forgot Day 0 wasn't Day 1. I considered doing nothing on Night 0 but it didn't happen.

My mistake. :lol:

[M] Dave – Stepdad

08-21-2011, 07:59 PM

You expect me to believe that? :lol:

[M] Elize

08-21-2011, 08:01 PM

Free in two hours will post then

[M] Walter - Smart Dad

08-21-2011, 08:01 PM

Yes, yes I do, actually. :lol:

For serious, I wouldn't get myself lynched because I forgot basic arithmetic.

[M] Caprica

08-21-2011, 08:03 PM

I love it when I find a gazillion posts between the one I am responding to and when mine finally posts. I agree with Queen Brahne: Jenova, you just said you did nothing Night 1 and received Faith Healer on Night 2 and used it on Fujin after originally saying you saw Gabranth go to Orphan's house because you received the role ability of Watcher. So one of those is a lie.

[M] Al - Biker Dad

08-21-2011, 08:04 PM

Jenova;3014558']I made a mistake. I protected Fujin Night 1. xDDDD I thought it was Day 4 because I forgot Day 0 wasn't Day 1. I considered doing nothing on Night 0 but it didn't happen.

My mistake. :lol:

There was no night 0 in case you decide that was when you abstained from using your ability ;)

[M] Walter - Smart Dad

08-21-2011, 08:05 PM

I recall deliberating on what to do with my role Night 0. Unfortunately I forgot there was no Night 0.

Seriously, I fucked up elementary math but that doesn't make me Mafia.

[M] Caprica

08-21-2011, 08:05 PM

There was no Night 0, Day 0 flowed smoothly into Day 1 with no break for night.

[M] Walter - Smart Dad

08-21-2011, 08:05 PM

Also have the memory of a retarded walrus.

[M] Caprica

08-21-2011, 08:06 PM

Damn, I seem to be one step behind instead of on top of the conversation :/

[M] Walter - Smart Dad

08-21-2011, 08:06 PM

Yes, I remember thinking there would be a Night 0 for some reason and choosing to abstain that night. But there was no Night 0 and I counted it anyway for some reason. :lol:

[M] Al - Biker Dad

08-21-2011, 08:07 PM

Jenova;3014542']I am the Chosen One.

I can use a night power on someone every night and get a random role's power on them. Last night I got Watcher and used it on Oprhan. Gabranth entered his house. Naturally, it would be likely to assume he did the killing, making him likely Serial Killer or Mafia.

So let me get this straight, you choose another player during the night phase & by doing so you perform a random night action on them.

Or is it that the player you choose you get to use their power the following night?

[M] Walter - Smart Dad

08-21-2011, 08:07 PM

Please give me a chance. Lynch me tomorrow if you want, but please give me a chance to prove my role. I swear I'll follow through with my claims.

[M] Walter - Smart Dad

08-21-2011, 08:08 PM

I get a random power and used it in a night. I discover the role I got for the night and discover the "results."

[M] Athena

08-21-2011, 08:09 PM

Jenova;3014564']I recall deliberating on what to do with my role Night 0. Unfortunately I forgot there was no Night 0.

Seriously, I fucked up elementary math but that doesn't make me Mafia.
Lu Bei fucked up the math in the last Mafia and he was scum. I smell your fear. Smells like cheese.

[M] Al - Biker Dad

08-21-2011, 08:10 PM

This seems a bit random, you get that don't you Jenova?

[M] Walter - Smart Dad

08-21-2011, 08:10 PM

Provolone or Harvati?

Hell, I know I look really stupid right now, but at least keep me around until tomorrow. Hell, you can even give me someone to use my Night Action on!

[M] Dave – Stepdad

08-21-2011, 08:11 PM

Well it wouldn't hurt to investigate Gabranth's behaviour a bit. I mean why choose him out of ever other candidate?

[M] Al - Biker Dad

08-21-2011, 08:11 PM

Zeromus;3014572']
Jenova;3014564']I recall deliberating on what to do with my role Night 0. Unfortunately I forgot there was no Night 0.

Seriously, I fucked up elementary math but that doesn't make me Mafia.
Lu Bei fucked up the math in the last Mafia and he was scum. I smell your fear. Smells like cheese.

But would a mafia go ape $hit at me for the reason Jenova went ape $hit at me?

[M] Walter - Smart Dad

08-21-2011, 08:12 PM

Gilgamesh;3014573']This seems a bit random, you get that don't you Jenova?
Coming from Gilgamesh himself! :lol:

Yes, I am aware I have no real way to prove myself, other than lynching Gabranth but you guys probably don't wanna do that now. xD I got a powerful role, and I really don't wanna waste it. :(

[M] Al - Biker Dad

08-21-2011, 08:13 PM

Jenova;3014574']Provolone or Harvati?

Hell, I know I look really stupid right now, but at least keep me around until tomorrow. Hell, you can even give me someone to use my Night Action on!

I say use it on either Seifer, Sephiroth or Kuja given they were the other candiates

[M] Walter - Smart Dad

08-21-2011, 08:13 PM

Queen Brahne;3014575']Well it wouldn't hurt to investigate Gabranth's behaviour a bit. I mean why choose him out of ever other candidate?I've deliberately targeted inactives in case I got a bad role we wouldn't be hurt too much.

[M] Dave – Stepdad

08-21-2011, 08:14 PM

Well it works if we lynch you today and leave Gabranth for tomorrow too :p

[M] Walter - Smart Dad

08-21-2011, 08:14 PM

Gilgamesh;3014578']
Jenova;3014574']Provolone or Harvati?

Hell, I know I look really stupid right now, but at least keep me around until tomorrow. Hell, you can even give me someone to use my Night Action on!

I say use it on either Seifer, Sephiroth or Kuja given they were the other candiates
You tell me so I can prove myself.

[M] Al - Biker Dad

08-21-2011, 08:14 PM

Jenova;3014577']
Gilgamesh;3014573']This seems a bit random, you get that don't you Jenova?
Coming from Gilgamesh himself! :lol:

Yes, I am aware I have no real way to prove myself, other than lynching Gabranth but you guys probably don't wanna do that now. xD I got a powerful role, and I really don't wanna waste it. :(

I can start talking in riddls again if you would like ;)

[M] Walter - Smart Dad

08-21-2011, 08:14 PM

Queen Brahne;3014580']Well it works if we lynch you today and leave Gabranth for tomorrow too :p
But you lose a power role. :P If you lynch him first and I'm right you don't waste a power role.

[M] Walter - Smart Dad

08-21-2011, 08:15 PM

And kill a townie.

[M] Walter - Smart Dad

08-21-2011, 08:16 PM

And you get myself reinforced by knowing the result of who I target.

[M] Walter - Smart Dad

08-21-2011, 08:16 PM

The next night. Considering we lost both our cop and our roleblocker you gotta have SOMEONE.

[M] Athena

08-21-2011, 08:17 PM

Gilgamesh;3014576']
Zeromus;3014572']
Jenova;3014564']I recall deliberating on what to do with my role Night 0. Unfortunately I forgot there was no Night 0.

Seriously, I fucked up elementary math but that doesn't make me Mafia.
Lu Bei fucked up the math in the last Mafia and he was scum. I smell your fear. Smells like cheese.
If it drew attention away from themselves then yes. But I think we could investigate this Gabranth a bit more.

But would a mafia go ape $hit at me for the reason Jenova went ape $hit at me?

[M] Al - Biker Dad

08-21-2011, 08:17 PM

Queen Brahne;3014580']Well it works if we lynch you today and leave Gabranth for tomorrow too :p

You have a point there :lol:

Jenova;3014582']
Gilgamesh;3014578']
Jenova;3014574']Provolone or Harvati?

Hell, I know I look really stupid right now, but at least keep me around until tomorrow. Hell, you can even give me someone to use my Night Action on!

I say use it on either Seifer, Sephiroth or Kuja given they were the other candiates
You tell me so I can prove myself.

Whomever from that list you think is most guilty ;)

[M] Walter - Smart Dad

08-21-2011, 08:18 PM

All right. I still find Seifer a bit suspicious from Day 1. So you want me to target him?

[M] Al - Biker Dad

08-21-2011, 08:20 PM

Jenova;3014590']All right. I still find Seifer a bit suspicious from Day 1. So you want me to target him?

I see nothing wrong with that

[M] Dave – Stepdad

08-21-2011, 08:21 PM

This is all there is to Gabranth.
Day 1 : He voted for Jecht for no reason. He also made some weird list that I don't understand
Day 2 : He voted Orphan for his roleclaim.
And that's it 5 posts in total.

[M] Caprica

08-21-2011, 08:21 PM

The problem with lying is that you have to remember everything, otherwise your lie is exposed. This could go two ways, we could agree with what you say and vote for Gabranth and discover if he is a Mafia or a Innocent, or we could disagree with you and lynch you for perceived lying. If it turned out that you were telling the truth and we would know that Gabranth was more than likely Mafia. If we voted for Gabranth and he turned up innocent we would know you were lying. However, I don't know if the Town can afford to lose another innocent just to prove if a claim is true or not. Voting patterns doesn't tell me much. Gabranth voted for Jecht night 1 and Jenova voted Kuja. Neither voted on Day 2.

[M] Caprica

08-21-2011, 08:22 PM

Queen Brahne;3014592']This is all there is to Gabranth. Day 1 : He voted for Jecht for no reason. He also made some weird list that I don't understand Day 2 : He voted Orphan for his roleclaim. And that's it 5 posts in total. Oh, I see that he did, I must have checked a previous post by The Shadow Lord where he hadn't voted yet.

[M] Dave – Stepdad

08-21-2011, 08:23 PM

But also Jenova you accused Gilgamesh of being a serial killer at first. If you really did see Gabranth why would you do that?

[M] Walter - Smart Dad

08-21-2011, 08:23 PM

So, are you willing to vote for Gabranth or not?

I understand the logic 100% for lynching me, but considering I'm actually active and have a power role I see keeping me as more advantageous. Of course I may be biased.

[M] Walter - Smart Dad

08-21-2011, 08:24 PM

Queen Brahne;3014595']But also Jenova you accused Gilgamesh of being a serial killer at first. If you really did see Gabranth why would you do that?Because Gabranth could easily be what I thought Gil wasn't. xD

[M] Dave – Stepdad

08-21-2011, 08:25 PM

<- Queen Brahne is not amused.

[M] Al - Biker Dad

08-21-2011, 08:26 PM

Queen Brahne;3014595']But also Jenova you accused Gilgamesh of being a serial killer at first. If you really did see Gabranth why would you do that?

Jihl Nabaat was the first player to suggest I was the serial killer

[M] Walter - Smart Dad

08-21-2011, 08:27 PM

Look Brahne, I know I may seem a bit...seedy.

But I'm a good ol' teddy bear when you get to know me. :bigsmile:

[M] Walter - Smart Dad

08-21-2011, 08:28 PM

Guys, I can 100% assure that Gabranth will likely flip what I say he will. If you give me that chance I can prove to be a valuable asset. Whattaya say?

[M] Athena

08-21-2011, 08:28 PM

Ok as I see it, If we vote Gabranth and he flips innocent we kill Jenova tomorrow. If he flips mafia, Jenova will more than likely be killed off tonight anyway. So what are we arguing about?

[M] Walter - Smart Dad

08-21-2011, 08:28 PM

Pweaaaase. :3

[M] Caprica

08-21-2011, 08:29 PM

Jenova;3014598']
Queen Brahne;3014595']But also Jenova you accused Gilgamesh of being a serial killer at first. If you really did see Gabranth why would you do that?Because Gabranth could easily be what I thought Gil wasn't. xD

Not likely, that would mean that the Mafia took out Barthandalus, and I don't think Mafia is going to be that stupid

[M] Walter - Smart Dad

08-21-2011, 08:29 PM

Zeromus;3014603']Ok as I see it, If we vote Gabranth and he flips innocent we kill Jenova tomorrow. If he flips mafia, Jenova will more than likely be killed off tonight anyway. So what are we arguing about?
Agreed! Either way I die. xD

[M] Walter - Smart Dad

08-21-2011, 08:30 PM

Jihl Nabaat;3014605']
Jenova;3014598'][QUOTE='[M] Queen Brahne;3014595']But also Jenova you accused Gilgamesh of being a serial killer at first. If you really did see Gabranth why would you do that?Because Gabranth could easily be what I thought Gil wasn't. xD

Oh I see. I guess I didn't consider that. :lol:

[M] Al - Biker Dad

08-21-2011, 08:32 PM

Jihl Nabaat;3013909']Two night kills? Can someone say Serial Killer? Did someone meet his conditions yesterday? I stand by my vote from day 1:

##Vote: Gilgamesh

I have to go work now, so I will check back when I get home to see what's been said, but it seems to me that knives (swords) are associated with serial killers...

Here's the post to prove it

[M] Walter - Smart Dad

08-21-2011, 08:34 PM

Is this day 12 or 24 hours long?

[M] Walter - Smart Dad

08-21-2011, 08:34 PM

Please be 12!

[M] Dave – Stepdad

08-21-2011, 08:35 PM

Jenova I am disappoint.

[M] Walter - Smart Dad

08-21-2011, 08:36 PM

How D:

[M] Al - Biker Dad

08-21-2011, 08:37 PM

Such haste doesn't scream innoncence

##Unvote: [M] Judge Gabranth

I will re vote for him if town decides to go with Jenova's plan

[M] Walter - Smart Dad

08-21-2011, 08:40 PM

Sounds good to me.

[M] Al - Biker Dad

08-21-2011, 08:41 PM

If we aren't going with Jenova plan than whats the plan? Lynch Jenova? Look at the inactives? What?

[M] Walter - Smart Dad

08-21-2011, 08:42 PM

I think we should go with Jenova's plan.

[M] Walter - Smart Dad

08-21-2011, 08:43 PM

Anyway, I'll be gone for a tad. Don't lynched me while I'm gone! :lol:

[M] Walter - Smart Dad

08-21-2011, 08:54 PM

Never mind, the computer's free now.

[M] Mike - Funny Dad

08-21-2011, 08:59 PM

##vote: jenova

either retarded scum or jester
you wouldnt be the first person to claim you used your role to investigate someone and then they flip mafia and you are also mafia having planned it out to cement yourself a good guy in the veiw of others.

[M] Al - Biker Dad

08-21-2011, 08:59 PM

And yet again nobody is around to talk :lol:

[M] Mike - Funny Dad

08-21-2011, 08:59 PM

btw, I just moved into my dorm

[M] Walter - Smart Dad

08-21-2011, 09:01 PM

Hojo;3014624']##vote: jenova

either retarded scum or jester
you wouldnt be the first person to claim you used your role to investigate someone and then they flip mafia and you are also mafia having planned it out to cement yourself a good guy in the veiw of others.
That's a huge assumption! xD

demondude

08-21-2011, 09:01 PM

Hojo;3014626']btw, I just moved into my dorm

Best post of the game thus far.

[M] Walter - Smart Dad

08-21-2011, 09:02 PM

It's way too risky to try to start an elaborate plot to axe a fellow Mafian. :/

[M] Dave – Stepdad

08-21-2011, 09:02 PM

There are soooooooo many reasons to not believe you Jenova. I could make a list.

[M] Mike - Funny Dad

08-21-2011, 09:03 PM

Jenova;3014627']
Hojo;3014624']##vote: jenova

either retarded scum or jester
you wouldnt be the first person to claim you used your role to investigate someone and then they flip mafia and you are also mafia having planned it out to cement yourself a good guy in the veiw of others.
That's a huge assumption! xD
I was right the last two games i said such a thing.

[M] Walter - Smart Dad

08-21-2011, 09:05 PM

Hell, I'm quite aware of the list. Still, you're taking a huge risk. If you lynch me you have yourself a townie gone and lose one of the few power role you have left. I'll be really pissed if you guys lynch me and we all lose because we had no power roles. If you'll humor me just for today I can prove my innocence. Please. You don't even need to gun for Gabranth. Just keep me around and let me prove my worth.

[M] Walter - Smart Dad

08-21-2011, 09:06 PM

Hojo;3014631']
Jenova;3014627']
Hojo;3014624']##vote: jenova

either retarded scum or jester
you wouldnt be the first person to claim you used your role to investigate someone and then they flip mafia and you are also mafia having planned it out to cement yourself a good guy in the veiw of others.
That's a huge assumption! xD
I was right the last two games i said such a thing.
But this is a different game! I'm telling you: a Mafian wouldn't given an elaborate plot, fuck it up, and still go with it. Especially if it would endanger his fellow Mafians!

[M] Mike - Funny Dad

08-21-2011, 09:07 PM

and then have you kill us off at the end? you better come up with hard facts fast.

[M] Mike - Funny Dad

08-21-2011, 09:08 PM

Jenova;3014633']
Hojo;3014631']
Jenova;3014627']
Hojo;3014624']##vote: jenova

either retarded scum or jester
you wouldnt be the first person to claim you used your role to investigate someone and then they flip mafia and you are also mafia having planned it out to cement yourself a good guy in the veiw of others.
That's a huge assumption! xD
I was right the last two games i said such a thing.
But this is a different game! I'm telling you: a Mafian wouldn't given an elaborate plot, fuck it up, and still go with it. Especially if it would endanger his fellow Mafians!
See: every game dd has ever been in

[M] Dave – Stepdad

08-21-2011, 09:08 PM

It's like believing Lotta Hart.

[M] Walter - Smart Dad

08-21-2011, 09:09 PM

As do you! You've accused me. I don't have to prove I didn't, you have to prove I did! And you have nothing!

I have a role and a night action. Both of which can be very powerful and both are what you have. It's not guaranteed, but that's what makes this game what it is. If you follow me and consider what I have to say you won't be disappointed.

[M] Walter - Smart Dad

08-21-2011, 09:10 PM

And I'm not DD. DD's hosting!

[M] Walter - Smart Dad

08-21-2011, 09:10 PM

Or rather, both are more than what you have.

[M] Al - Biker Dad

08-21-2011, 09:11 PM

@Hojo what makes you so sure Jenova is lying?

[M] Jeff - Single Dad

08-21-2011, 09:11 PM

Jihl Nabaat;3014419']At Jecht: Really? Up until I posted no one even commented on two night kills, why would I bring it to everyone's attention if I were the serial killer? Gilgamesh is still posting strangely and has not done as I requested, which is to explain his posting style if he is a Pro Town role.

Alright folks, I'm back and it looks like teh greatest Blitzball player to ever live needs to explain himself. First, I want to say that I'm not accusing you of being a serial killer. Second, I think you might be scum, since you're giving away the serial killer is out there and it's most likely Gilg because of his weird posting style. And I do believe that he pointed out that he's simply roleplaying his character in the game, which there is nothing wrong with. Now back to the point here, I think you are scum Jihl, because you know there's a serial killer and you want to pin the blame on an innocent to help thin out town, and Gilgamesh perfectly fits the role, using previous serial killers in past games.

[M] Mike - Funny Dad

08-21-2011, 09:12 PM

youve said some stupid things, but i will give till tommorow to prove your value.

##unvote: jenova

[M] Caprica

08-21-2011, 09:12 PM

Yes, Gilgamesh, I did suspect you of being the Serial Killer because you were the only one who posted strangely and there were two night kills. I didn't change my vote on Day 2 because I didn't see any reason to unsuspect you at the time because you continued to post in your strange fashion despite everyone asking you to explain yourself, which you didn't properly do until today. I did notice that after I mentioned that swords were basically knives and knives were associated with serial killers, you stopped talking about swords. Today, is a new day, you are saying much more in a comprehensible way, and although I still have my eye on you, we now have more evidence to look at as well.

We really need to look at what Barthandalus said and who agreed with him. Both he and Utros were Masons and they both voted for Golbez on Night 1 so I assume that Bart chatted this out with the Mason group, but apparently only Ultros was behind him then. Anyway, the first post of substance that he posted was as follows:

Barthandelus;3013709']I find the baseless bandwagon on Seifer to be a bit odd. I also find it odd that the bandwagon just so happened to pick up speed once Seymour got a couple votes. Purely consequential, but something to think about, at least.

I don't know who to vote for, however. No one seems to to be doing anything scummy. Besides my near nothing on Seymour and how Golbez has only said very little before jumping on a bandwagon, I haven't really seen anything. Actually, from my experience in Mafia, I think Golbez would be a better choice, sooo...

##Vote: Golbez

He is attempting to make people question their voting of Seifer, who at the time had the most votes. If Seifer was a Townie why would he care if there was a bandwagon against him? Just another Townie getting the lynch, right? Why try to change their minds to another Townie? Also, Seifer hasn't posted at all since Day 1 after being very active. This looks very suspicious to me.

[M] Walter - Smart Dad

08-21-2011, 09:13 PM

Thank you, Hojo.

[M] Walter - Smart Dad

08-21-2011, 09:15 PM

Can we get a vote count?

[M] Dave – Stepdad

08-21-2011, 09:19 PM

Gilgamesh;3014641']@Hojo what makes you so sure Jenova is lying?

I don't know about Hojo but she actually lied. TWICE.
First with the night 0 thing.
And second when I asked on what night she investigated Gabranth. She said night 2. After she realised her mistake she said that she thought was day 4. But that means the answer to my question would have been night 3.

[M] Walter - Smart Dad

08-21-2011, 09:20 PM

That's a mistake, not a lie.

[M] Dave – Stepdad

08-21-2011, 09:21 PM

It's still not true. I will abstain from voting. Because I find believing you logically impossible.

[M] Walter - Smart Dad

08-21-2011, 09:22 PM

I completely understand your sentiments. However, they're wrong.

[M] Al - Biker Dad

08-21-2011, 09:25 PM

Jenova;3014651']I completely understand your sentiments. However, they're wrong.

And the award for most passively agressive post goes too Jenova :lol:

Seems convienct btw that Jecht is now suggesting I could be the serial killer since I'm mention a few times this day how him being barely active is quite suspicious

[M] Mike - Funny Dad

08-21-2011, 09:25 PM

Jenova, you do realise something pretty smurfing great had better happen tonight with you or you are dead tommorow right?

[M] Walter - Smart Dad

08-21-2011, 09:28 PM

I do realize that.

[M] Walter - Smart Dad

08-21-2011, 09:29 PM

:lol: Yeah, I'm willing to take that but hey, one can always hope!

[M] Dave – Stepdad

08-21-2011, 09:29 PM

Gilgamesh;3014653']
Jenova;3014651']I completely understand your sentiments. However, they're wrong.

And the award for most passively agressive post goes too Jenova :lol:

Seems convienct btw that Jecht is now suggesting I could be the serial killer since I'm mention a few times this day how him being barely active is quite suspicious

He's not suggesting you're a serial killer. He's doing the contrary. What are you trying to do?

[M] Walter - Smart Dad

08-21-2011, 09:32 PM

So, what do you propose we do?

[M] Al - Biker Dad

08-21-2011, 09:35 PM

Queen Brahne;3014662']
Gilgamesh;3014653']
Jenova;3014651']I completely understand your sentiments. However, they're wrong.

And the award for most passively agressive post goes too Jenova :lol:

Seems convienct btw that Jecht is now suggesting I could be the serial killer since I'm mention a few times this day how him being barely active is quite suspicious

He's not suggesting you're a serial killer. He's doing the contrary. What are you trying to do?

Clearly not helping myself, I read the last 2 lines of his post basically. Playing mafia under the influence of alcohol = fail :lol:

[M] Dave – Stepdad

08-21-2011, 09:38 PM

I don't want to live in this forum anymore.

[M] Walter - Smart Dad

08-21-2011, 09:39 PM

Why not? Don't I make you happy?

[M] Al - Biker Dad

08-21-2011, 09:40 PM

Queen Brahne;3014665']I don't want to live in this forum anymore.

Me either :lol:

[M] Dave – Stepdad

08-21-2011, 09:45 PM

Ya know what? Smurf this! Smurf logic! Smurf this game!

##Vote : Gabranth

I hope we all die and Freya laughs at us.

[M] Anise

08-21-2011, 09:45 PM

Well it seems like I've become the scapegoat of the moment. Let's look at some of Jenova's posts to see what we can see.

Jenova;3014090']Orphan that Reactor claim is hard to believe. Explain yourself.

Jenova;3014223']If Orphan wants to be spared my vote he must come and explain himself.
So you suspected Orphan, claimed that you intended to vote for Orphan but didn't in the end. Your suspicion was based on his obviously bad roleclaim.

And then you turn around and make another super-powered, obviously bad roleclaim? Interesting.

Jenova;3014421']Well, this game sucks so far. Hmm....

I also find Jihl and Seph suspcious, but who I really want to hear from is Gilgamesh. This game is far too chotic for my dead heart to take. As a sake of organization: Gilgamesh, why are you talking the way you do? If you're a townie there's an admittedly small chance you may have to speak that way, but it's distracting nonetheless. However, it's many a Serial Killer (or Mafia) tactic to speak on such a manner to give people the impression that's what their role does. It's smart! So explain yourself.

Jenova;3014435']Gilgamesh, could you even attempt to make a point that isn't made in half-ellipses half-tomfoolery?

Jenova;3014469']The way you speak, Gil, can be significant. Especially considering it's a common and valid way to hide your role.

Jenova;3014488']We don't like that you're deliberately sabotaging the town, according to your buddy Zermous.

So yeah, that's why everyone votes for people. Your arguments are flimsy.

Jenova;3014494']WE SHOULDN'T HAVE TO!!! BEING NEEDLESSLY ABSTRACT IS POOR GAMEPLAY!

Jenova;3014495']And now you're avoiding my arguments. Welp, my vote stays.
And then today you've decided to go on and target Gilgamesh for.... role-playing. Oh because role-playing is a flimsy disguise? Do I have to remind you of the WWE Mafia in which a character HAD to role-play in order to have a successful game

So then you go on and lalala and argue some more and act like a general brat making very little rational argument about Gilgamesh. And when it becomes pretty obvious that most people think you're full of crap, you flip your script. Suddenly you've decided to target another person (me) because you saw me do something last night? As a watcher?

(Guys at this point something is fucking up with my browser and I can't pull anymore multi-quotes so bear with me.)

You've already fucked up one time by stating you've taken three night actions when you would only have been able to commit two, and then laughably back-pedaled. First you say you took no action on Night 1 because you were afraid of killing someone. That is a fairly good response. HOWEVER there have only been two nights. Which wouldn't allow you to take no action, take an action involving Fujin and then take an action involving me.

So how could you have had three opportunities for night actions and savvily abstained from the first? Oh, whoops you forgot. You actually never abstained from your night action, you merely forgot that there had only been two nights! So... why make up a reason for abstention? Maybe because the other actions are made up too? My guess is yes.

Let's entertain the idea that you actually do have this role. Why watch me? Because I'm inactive, you say? Admittedly I've made fewer posts than many (Zeromus and Brahne come to mind) but I have tried to be a bit more thoughtful in my posting. Why not target Kefka? Who doesn't seem to have made a post since day 1?

Because you're trying to pin Orphan's death on someone. Me, Brahne and Fujin voted for an Orphan lynch yesterday and then he mysteriously dies the next night. You can't target Brahne. She's too active, no one would follow that. So you have me and Fujin, both with he same relative activity. So you claim to have taken some type of action involving both of us.

A weak argument always pulls the most obvious evidence, so you pull and mention the two people who voted Orphan.

That absolutely REEKS of a bad scum set up.

Let's continue. Say I could tell you guys for sure that I know Jenova is Mafia? Or Fujin? Or Kefka? Would you believe that?

Jenova smells like scum to me. Belittling roleclaims then making one herself, going after Gilgamesh with no evidence and then when the tide obviously will not turn on one scapegoat, she picks out another?

I'm not gonna roleclaim. That's stupid. I am gonna say that Jenova is scum to the core, based on her actions so far.

##vote: Jenova

[M] Anise

08-21-2011, 09:47 PM

PS: DD is a badass mother fucker.

[M] Al - Biker Dad

08-21-2011, 09:51 PM

After a post like that Gabranth your inactive is forgiven! Jenova care to post a rebuttal :bigsmile:

[M] Walter - Smart Dad

08-21-2011, 09:51 PM

Took you long enough. Except you made a mistake: My role isn't necessarilly investigative. I chose a random guy and got a random result.

And you've mentioned NOTHING new. So naturally, you incriminate me through elementary suspicion fuel. Of course, it's in your best interest! So you finally thought you'd defend yourself. Or say much of ANYTHING. Puh-leeze.

[M] Walter - Smart Dad

08-21-2011, 09:51 PM

It's all to convenient to JUST now post.

[M] Anise

08-21-2011, 09:52 PM

Queen Brahne;3014580']Well it works if we lynch you today and leave Gabranth for tomorrow too :p
Yep.

Jenova;3014584']
Queen Brahne;3014580']Well it works if we lynch you today and leave Gabranth for tomorrow too :p
But you lose a power role. :P If you lynch him first and I'm right you don't waste a power role.

Jenova;3014585']And kill a townie.
Look at these two things right in a row. A power role AND a townie. All tied up, huh.

Jenova;3014590']All right. I still find Seifer a bit suspicious from Day 1. So you want me to target him?

Gilgamesh;3014591']
Jenova;3014590']All right. I still find Seifer a bit suspicious from Day 1. So you want me to target him?
I see nothing wrong with that
Are you kidding me? You're going to let him tell you who he'll target? What if he and Seifer are in cahootery?

Jenova;3014602']Guys, I can 100% assure that Gabranth will likely flip what I say he will. If you give me that chance I can prove to be a valuable asset. Whattaya say?
And I can 100% guarantee that Jenova will flip scum. ;D