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[M] Mike - Funny Dad
08-24-2011, 12:21 AM
##vote: queen brahne

keepin ya on your toes
you havent proven your innocence yet

##unvote: queen brahne

[M] Dave Stepdad
08-24-2011, 12:24 AM
Rajin;3015511']
Queen Brahne;3015433']3 confirmed townies now.
Kuja, Seymour, Hojo - I trust you with my life! :D

Nevermind that I killed two of the mafia single-handedly, ya know? Thanks for the vote of confidence. :mad:

I'm still waiting for the cop to weigh in before I lay down my vote, ya know? Guess I'll come back later and see whether Seymour has really gotten his groove back, ya know?

You're not confirmed vigilante yet :p

[M] Apollo
08-24-2011, 12:26 AM
Nnugh. Thanks for lynching me the first day, fools. You have prolonged your suffering unnecessarily. Anyway, Kuja's not lying, I have been revived, and Seifer is guilty.

Hojo, I would like to see this magical fairy cannon.

[M] Gaius
08-24-2011, 12:28 AM
If I were a serial killer, then I wouldn't have role claimed, ya know? When the mafia finally gets eradicated and the game doesn't end, who's going to be the number one suspect? Me, ya know. Hell, if I had role claimed, I would've been targetting people who I thought were power townies to cull the numbers a bit more, ya know?

[M] Gaius
08-24-2011, 12:30 AM
WHOA NOW HOLD ON JUST A MINUTE?! You're saying the boss is guilty?

...

That explains most of the plot of our game, ya know? Damn, and Seymour was confirmed Cop when he died, not an insane Cop, so I guess we gotta believe, ya know?

##Vote: [M] Seifer :(

Now time to go and wallow in despair in class, ya know? :(

[M] Mike - Funny Dad
08-24-2011, 12:30 AM
Seymour;3015515']Nnugh. Thanks for lynching me the first day, fools. You have prolonged your suffering unnecessarily. Anyway, Kuja's not lying, I have been revived, and Seifer is guilty.

Hojo, I would like to see this magical fairy cannon.

I dont show it to zombies, especially male zombies

[M] Dave Stepdad
08-24-2011, 12:32 AM
That matches perfectly with Barthandelus's post. I'm gonna skim through every confirmed mafia's post.

Carl the Llama
08-24-2011, 12:32 AM
Hojo;3015504']someone post or I swear I will blow the hosts brains out with a magical fairy cannon

You DARE threaten ME! thats it, one more word from you and I will mod kill you to death!

demondude
08-24-2011, 12:33 AM
I would hate to be killed to death! Being killed to alive is better.

[M] Mike - Funny Dad
08-24-2011, 12:36 AM
You forget, I was a host once, and while I was I picked up this:

*picture visible to KaiserDragon only*

Be careful or I will tell everyone about the white glove and the sword.
Do you really want that?

Carl the Llama
08-24-2011, 12:37 AM
Oh and I have decided that once the game is all said and done, I am going to post what was originally going to be this mornings flavour had the Mafia not changed their targets... I stayed up and extra 40 minutes finding the right music and writing the damned thing out.

/end rant

[M] Dave Stepdad
08-24-2011, 12:41 AM
Hojo is not trying to hide his identity at all -_-

[M] Mike - Funny Dad
08-24-2011, 12:43 AM
..... that ace?

Carl the Llama
08-24-2011, 12:50 AM
Hojo;3015523']You forget, I was a host once, and while I was I picked up this:

*picture visible to KaiserDragon only*

Be careful or I will tell everyone about the white glove and the sword.
Do you really want that?

Listen sonny, I am considerably older, wiser and more threatening then you are, you science fraud! I am a Dragon God! and dun you forget it.

http://fc09.deviantart.net/fs12/i/2006/281/b/7/Dark_Kaiser_Dragon_by_pamansazz.jpg

[M] Dave Stepdad
08-24-2011, 12:51 AM
Didn't find much...Well Barthy's post is enough. It was day 1 and poor scummy Seifer's lynch was taking speed so Barth had to divert the attention. Plus we trust our cop.

##Vote : Seifer

[M] Mike - Funny Dad
08-24-2011, 12:52 AM
thats it, you had this coming

kaiserdragon before he had his implants:
34844

Carl the Llama
08-24-2011, 12:55 AM
.<==== Hojo while KD was a Gekko.

FTR Gekko's kick ass.

[M] Dee
08-24-2011, 12:56 AM
Wha!? This is not cool :( I'm .... I'm just pretending to be Mafia!! I'm getting the inside info!

[M] Mike - Funny Dad
08-24-2011, 12:58 AM
first of all tldr
second your pic didnt pop up
third, I know all about you, mr. chicken, and the season finale of futurama

[M] Dave Stepdad
08-24-2011, 12:58 AM
Seifer;3015535']Wha!? This is not cool :( I'm .... I'm just pretending to be Mafia!! I'm getting the inside info!

Nice story sir. Speak us more about it.

[M] Dave Stepdad
08-24-2011, 12:59 AM
##Eat : KaiserDragon, Hojo

[M] Jeff - Single Dad
08-24-2011, 01:09 AM
Seifer;3015535']Wha!? This is not cool :( I'm .... I'm just pretending to be Mafia!! I'm getting the inside info!

How can you pretend to be Mafia? Something doesn't sound right about this, and our revived Cop just declared you Guilty. I think it's safe to say that you earned my vote!

##VOTE: Seifer

[M] Mike - Funny Dad
08-24-2011, 01:11 AM
##assassinate: seifer

/// what if seymour was recruited?

[M] Dave Stepdad
08-24-2011, 01:12 AM
Hojo;3015544']##assassinate: seifer

/// what if seymour was recruited?

Then I quit.

[M] Mom Host
08-24-2011, 01:30 AM
Vote count:


Jihl 1: Fujin

Kefka 1: Gilgamesh

Seifer 4: Rajin, Queen Brahne, Jecht, Hojo

Seymour 1: Necron

7 votes for a majority.

[M] Mike - Funny Dad
08-24-2011, 01:36 AM
I challenge the shadow lord to a pokemon battle!

[M] Mike - Funny Dad
08-24-2011, 02:20 AM
It's time for the annual mafia t and a contest, whomever posts the best cleavege and butt pics gets immunity

demondude
08-24-2011, 02:23 AM
Hojo's been the best player this game and anybody that suggests otherwise is wrong.

[M] Mike - Funny Dad
08-24-2011, 02:25 AM
heres my entry
34845

[M] Caprica
08-24-2011, 03:07 AM
Ah ha! It looks like my suspicions about Seifer would accurate!!! Welcome back, Seymour!!! Good job Kuja!!!

## Vote: Seifer

[M] Dee
08-24-2011, 03:43 AM
I hate you all

[M] Mike - Funny Dad
08-24-2011, 03:45 AM
your girlfriend left you for an emotionless jerk

Carl the Llama
08-24-2011, 03:51 AM
Vote count:

Jihl 1: Fujin

Kefka 1: Gilgamesh

Seifer 5: Rajin, Queen Brahne, Jecht, Hojo, Jihl Nabaat

Seymour 1: Necron

7 votes for a majority.

EDIT: Oops wrong account... ahh I cba to change it.

Oh and Hojo, Squall had Emotions, he just kept them hidden :p

[M] Mike - Funny Dad
08-24-2011, 03:54 AM
i know, but Im a scientist, what do I care for for matters of the heart, all I care about is science

[M] Gaius
08-24-2011, 04:03 AM
##Unvote: [M] Seifer
##Vote: [M] Seymour

Fucken' zombies, I hate 'em! And I gotta have faith in the boss, ya know?

[M] Eizen
08-24-2011, 04:05 AM
AGREED.

##UNVOTE: [M] JIHL NABAAT
##VOTE: [M] SEYMOUR

[M] Eizen
08-24-2011, 04:10 AM
All these rumours about the many character roles...
You pass along a little false information and they fall for it...How
pathetic...Seems like there are only amateurs around here.

Ahh...My head hurts from all this frowning...Young...LADIES...
So... what did you have in stORE for me had I resiSTED...?
Why doN'T you teLL mE...

QuiTE aMUsing thouGH...For beING such amAtEurs...!!! HoW daRe YOU InSUlt
tHe bOSs!!!

You...fEll...For...iT. aMusINg...tHIs iS AmuSinG!

[M] Mike - Funny Dad
08-24-2011, 04:12 AM
Fujin;3015608']All these rumours about the many character roles...
You pass along a little false information and they fall for it...How
pathetic...Seems like there are only amateurs around here.

Ahh...My head hurts from all this frowning...Young...LADIES...
So... what did you have in stORE for me had I resiSTED...?
Why doN'T you teLL mE...

QuiTE aMUsing thouGH...For beING such amAtEurs...!!! HoW daRe YOU InSUlt
tHe bOSs!!!

You...fEll...For...iT. aMusINg...tHIs iS AmuSinG!
stop taking pages from my book

Carl the Llama
08-24-2011, 04:17 AM
Hojo;3015609']
stop taking pages from my book

The line is from FFVIII its what the fake president says after Squall and co capture him.

[M] Eizen
08-24-2011, 04:30 AM
thAT's rIGHT LITle drAgON...!

[M] Eizen
08-24-2011, 04:33 AM
...aNd aS FOr yOu, HOJO, yoUR FOrtuNE LOokS gRim...!

[M] Mike - Funny Dad
08-24-2011, 04:35 AM
is that a threat?

[M] Caprica
08-24-2011, 04:36 AM
I never heard of the Fujin = Ultimicia Theory :p

[M] Eizen
08-24-2011, 04:36 AM
SO wHO's nEXT to DIE?

[M] Eizen
08-24-2011, 04:37 AM
hoW ABouT YoU, JIhl naBAAT? DO yOU WaNT to DiE?!

[M] Eizen
08-24-2011, 04:40 AM
fuJIN aND RAjin AnD seIFEr

DISciplINaRY comMITteE...!

[M] Caprica
08-24-2011, 04:41 AM
I really just want to know why you are voting for a confirmed Cop? If you believe that Seifer is innocent can you share your thoughts on it?

[M] Eizen
08-24-2011, 04:44 AM
sEIFer IS oNE Of US. onE oF US. ONe OF uS.

raJIN IS noT eVEN vIGilaNTE. haAHAHA AMATeuRS.

[M] Eizen
08-24-2011, 04:51 AM
tHE EnD IS nIGh. AHhahAHAahahAHA

[M] Eizen
08-24-2011, 04:53 AM
weEP fOR YoUR SOuLs, fOOls! WEeP!

[M] Caprica
08-24-2011, 04:54 AM
You assume that I believed Rajin's Vigilante story, which is not necessarily true. However, I do believe the Cop, who has been confirmed and who has investigated Seifer and found him guilty. Now, I will not deny that there is the possibility that there could be a Mafia Framer in our midst, but that doesn't mean the Cop isn't a Cop. If the day ends and we have lynched an innocent than I would cry Mafia Framer before I'd accuse the Cop of being Mafia. Defending Seifer because of your FF8 connection doesn't make any sense to me.

[M] Gaius
08-24-2011, 04:57 AM
Fujin is right, ya know? You fools just believe everything you're told! How many times must the wool be pulled over your eyes before you start to realise, ya know?

ONE OF US. ONE OF US. ONE OF US. ONE OF US.

Be afraid, ya know?

[M] Mike - Funny Dad
08-24-2011, 04:58 AM
piss.
stop it.

[M] Gaius
08-24-2011, 04:58 AM
Blood is thicker than water and the Disciplinary Committee is thicker than your idiotic brains, ya know!

[M] Jeff - Single Dad
08-24-2011, 05:00 AM
Ha, the Disciplinary Committee can kiss my... for all I care. Do you know who I even am? I am the Great Jecht, world's greatest blitzball player ever, and I can take you three down easily... with my hands tied behind my back... underwater... blindfolded... and alone.

Come at me, bros,

[M] Gaius
08-24-2011, 05:01 AM
NO YOU COME ON AT ME BRO, YA KNOW?!

[M] Gaius
08-24-2011, 05:03 AM
SHOOP DA WOOP MOFO YA KNOW

[M] Gaius
08-24-2011, 05:04 AM
Hojo, you need to go back to your beach sluts, ya know? Gtfo before I have to school you with an ol' RAJIN SPECIAL

[M] Gaius
08-24-2011, 05:05 AM
And Old Man Jecht, you're all washed up! :hahaha: Go emotionally abuse your son some more, ya know!

[M] Mike - Funny Dad
08-24-2011, 05:07 AM
raijin. suprise. buttsecks.

[M] Jeff - Single Dad
08-24-2011, 05:07 AM
I don't think you know who you're speaking to.

http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20091107205526/finalfantasy/images/archive/e/e0/20091107212858!Braska_Final_Aeon.jpg

If what Fujin is saying is true, than all three of you are going down. First it'll be the leader, next will be you, and finally the silver haired wench.

[M] Gaius
08-24-2011, 05:07 AM
YEAH YOU WOULD, YOU SEEDY OLD SCIENCE FREAK

[M] Gaius
08-24-2011, 05:08 AM
You might want to fix that image, ya know? :shobon:

[M] Mike - Funny Dad
08-24-2011, 05:09 AM
not from me. experiment red 13

[M] Gaius
08-24-2011, 05:11 AM
Mmmm I love me a bit of furry lovin', ya know? He makes a pretty good human too, ya know?

[M] Mike - Funny Dad
08-24-2011, 05:12 AM
warning, he got into the viagra cabinet on the 53rd floor

[M] Jeff - Single Dad
08-24-2011, 05:12 AM
stupid crap. let's try this again...



http://i54.:bou::bou::bou::bou::bou::bou::bou::bou::bou::bou::bou::bou:/35mqoao.jpg

That's more like it.

[M] Gaius
08-24-2011, 05:15 AM
Oooh noooo I'm sooooo scared, ya know? You might want to get those creepy growths on your back looked at! :hahaha:

[M] Caprica
08-24-2011, 05:18 AM
Well, I was willing to entertain any logical argument you could give me not to vote for Seifer, but it just looks like you are trying to draw the vote away from him on to yourself. Divide and conquer, ya know?

[M] Greg - Hot Dad
08-24-2011, 05:55 AM
OMG guys, what are you doing? I didn't revive Seymour just so you could lynch him again!

Welcome back Seymour, I am glad I could help you!

##Vote: Seifer

[M] Apollo
08-24-2011, 06:21 AM
It only makes sense that the so-called "disciplinary committee" would band together. I suspect them all. Death to the Blond one! ## Vote: [M] Seifer.

[M] Apollo
08-24-2011, 06:23 AM
Kuja;3015655']OMG guys, what are you doing? I didn't revive Seymour just so you could lynch him again!

Welcome back Seymour, I am glad I could help you!

##Vote: Seifer


I suspect I do not usually express gratitude, but I do thank you. This town's suffering must end!

[M] Elize
08-24-2011, 06:47 AM
##UNVOTE: Seymour
##VOTE: Seifer

Is the DC a cult or scum faction? Don't bandwagon on a joke vote.

[M] Dave Stepdad
08-24-2011, 07:00 AM
What the hell is wrong with you two? -_-

[M] Caprica
08-24-2011, 07:14 AM
I don't believe it matters anymore Brahne. I believe

[M] Caprica
08-24-2011, 07:19 AM
Hmmm, apparently imps are around and has posted my post before I was done even forming my thoughts. I believe at Last count Seifer had 5 votes: Rajin, Queen Brahne, Jecht, Hojo, And myself Jihl Nabaat.

Then Rajin unvoted Seifer dropping the count to 4 but Kuja and Seymour came posted votes for Seifer and then Necron changed his vote for Seifer. so it looks like we've reached a majority and the day should end. Please, verify my count and make sure I didn't miss anything

[M] Dave Stepdad
08-24-2011, 07:23 AM
Yes it's a majority. The truth about Rajin and Fujin will also be revealed at least.

[M] Greg - Hot Dad
08-24-2011, 07:35 AM
Asking The Deciplinary Committee to explain themselves is the easy part. Getting them to explain things in a way that makes their actions sensable and helpful for the Town that might not be very hard.

[M] Caprica
08-24-2011, 07:45 AM
Well, I am sorry Town, but I am exhausted and need to go to sleep. You all have a great evening and I hope that Seifer lights up a bright Red when his flavor revealed! If not, don't despair, it just might mean we have to deal with a Mafia Framer.

[M] Mom Host
08-24-2011, 10:57 AM
Dont have time to write up a flavour, will write one up after I get back from work or if DD wants to he is welcome, until then I will lock the thread.

[M] Mom Host
08-24-2011, 11:00 AM
Yeah I was just about to do it!

[M] Dave Stepdad
08-24-2011, 11:03 AM
*crosses fingers*

[M] Mom Host
08-24-2011, 11:05 AM
Seymour had made his judgment. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i90-bZ7iGeg&feature=related)

Seifer weeped as the rope was placed around his neck. For his death, for the disciplinary committee, but mostly for this crappy flavour.

Seifer was a Mafia Goon played the The Fresh Prince of Mel Air.

The Mafia have been eradicated.

...

Something was not right.

Night 5 4 has begun.

[M] Dave Stepdad
08-24-2011, 11:05 AM
AWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW YEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH

[M] Mom Host
08-24-2011, 05:29 PM
All was Silent during the night....

Day 5 has begun...

[M] Dave Stepdad
08-24-2011, 05:31 PM
Gotta love deathless nights. We're all ears Seymour.

[M] Dave Stepdad
08-24-2011, 05:32 PM
But before that :
##Vote : Rajin
Just because.

[M] Mom Host
08-24-2011, 05:33 PM
oops forgot to wait for seymour >.< locking again

[M] Mom Host
08-25-2011, 01:00 AM
24 hour deadline. Do whatever. I don't give a fuck.

[M] Athena
08-25-2011, 02:15 AM
Ok, I'm curious as to what we are trying to lynch. Is it a cult or something? Or perhaps a serial killer9doubtful since no-one died last night).

[M] Jeff - Single Dad
08-25-2011, 02:30 AM
The disciplinary committee shall be no more!!!!! Let's go after that fake vigilante, Rajin!!

##VOTE: Rajin

What now bro? You got two votes on ya now!

[M] Mike - Funny Dad
08-25-2011, 02:30 AM
....... perhaps a mason?

[M] Athena
08-25-2011, 02:36 AM
Hojo;3015964']....... perhaps a mason?
Explain? Masons are generally Town alligned.

[M] Gaius
08-25-2011, 02:38 AM
Ugh. Alright, so let me try and set this straight.

Fujin and I are lovers. I'm not actually a vigilante -- I'm a Doctor. Fujin is the killer. I was under the impression all we had to do was survive until the mafia was dead, but it doesn't seem that is the case. So our coordinated attempts to help the town so far seem to have achieved very little.

We decided to go crazy yesterday for a few reasons. First, we were told we had been nightkilled and so I was going to partner up and become Seymour. This then didn't happen at the last minute, which really ticked me off (not least of which was the flavour that we all missed out on that KD went to great effort to write). I was told at this same time that the cop had investigated the last mafia member (and then a short time later, that I wouldn't win if the last mafia member was killed).

Then I realised that immediately after Seifer died, I would look guilty. Claiming to be a vigilante and then the game not being over makes me look like a serial killer. I gave up hope and just wanted to keep Seifer alive for one more night. Why? Two reasons.

The first is that Seifer might just night kill me and the agony would be over. The second possibility was that Seifer could help kill the cult.

The fact that the game is still going and Fujin and I haven't won yet can only lead me to believe that there is a Cult that needs to be eradicated. Perhaps a non recruiting Cult, but a Cult nonetheless.

And to clarify why I claimed to be the vigilante -- it's a fuckload easier to do as me. Fujin and I both decided to roleplay our characters and ya'll can see how annoying talking like Fujin can be :greenie:

ya know?

##Vote: [M] Kefka

My first pick for a Cultist. He's not been around, not been replaced and looks like a bloody cultist to boot.

[M] Gaius
08-25-2011, 02:39 AM
I've been a selfish bastard and protected either myself or Fujin all nights except last night. Last night I didn't send a night action in, and neither did Fujin.

[M] Eizen
08-25-2011, 02:42 AM
You know you could've claimed to be the bad guy Rajin. That's really not very nice :aimmad:

[M] Gaius
08-25-2011, 02:42 AM
Lying will only make us seem more guilty, ya know? :greenie:

[M] Mike - Funny Dad
08-25-2011, 02:45 AM
Zeromus;3015966']
Hojo;3015964']....... perhaps a mason?
Explain? Masons are generally Town alligned.
oh... really?

[M] Athena
08-25-2011, 02:49 AM
Hojo;3015971']
Zeromus;3015966']
Hojo;3015964']....... perhaps a mason?
Explain? Masons are generally Town alligned.
oh... really?
Mason - MafiaWiki (http://mafiascum.net/wiki/index.php?title=Mason)

[M] Eizen
08-25-2011, 02:53 AM
There should be a Mason left anyway. Usually they come in threes and we already lost the Mason Lynchee and the Mafia Mason.

[M] Gaius
08-25-2011, 02:56 AM
This reminds me of that time I told the girl I had a crush on that I had a crush on her and she laughed and that was that. You pour your heart and soul out and people just don't care :(

[M] Gaius
08-25-2011, 02:56 AM
But don't worry Fujin, I'm all yours now, ya know?!

[M] Eizen
08-25-2011, 02:56 AM
:aimmad:

[M] Eizen
08-25-2011, 02:59 AM
##Vote: [M] Rajin you jerkwad :aimmad:

Carl the Llama
08-25-2011, 03:00 AM
Fujin;3015976']:aimmad:

There he is bearing his heart to you and your ANGRY RAGEing, thats not cool, Ya Know!

[M] Mike - Funny Dad
08-25-2011, 03:01 AM
##vote: every other guy in here.... and queen brahne

[M] Eizen
08-25-2011, 03:03 AM
##Unvote: [M] Rajin

##Vote: KaiserDragon

NOT YOUR BUSINESS PRECIOUS, NOT YOUR BUSINESS STINKING FAT HOBBITSS

[M] Gaius
08-25-2011, 03:06 AM
OH MY FUCKING GOD CAN SOMEONE PLEASE TALK TO ME I'M FREAKING OUT HERE.

[M] Gaius
08-25-2011, 03:09 AM
So where have Jecht and Zeromus gone? Jesus H Christ. I'm gonna fucking DIE HERE because NONE OF YOU BASTARDS BOTHERED TO READ MY POST.

[M] Eizen
08-25-2011, 03:11 AM
I read your post :monster:

Carl the Llama
08-25-2011, 03:12 AM
Fujin;3015982']##Unvote: [M] Rajin

##Vote: KaiserDragon

NOT YOUR BUSINESS PRECIOUS, NOT YOUR BUSINESS STINKING FAT HOBBITSS

I am Unlynchable, Invincible to nightkills, Daytime and Night time Vigilante Werewolf Doctor Angel.

Care to change that vote before I MODKILL YOU TO DEATH!

Dun worry Raj man, I got ya back ^^ *brofist*

AND I made a SnowCat cry TWICE!

[M] Mike - Funny Dad
08-25-2011, 03:12 AM
MY BIRTHDAY PRESENT

[M] Eizen
08-25-2011, 03:15 AM
##Unvote: KaiserDragon

Your aggressive behavior is soooo sexy. Rawr!

[M] Mike - Funny Dad
08-25-2011, 03:19 AM
VOTE: EVERYONE

[M] Elize
08-25-2011, 03:22 AM
Who do we have left?

[M] Hojo
[M] Fujin
[M] Rajin
[M] Necron
[M] Kuja
[M] Zeromus
[M] Sephiroth
[M] Kefka
[M] Jihl Nabaat
[M] Seymour
[M] Jecht
[M] Queen Brahne
[M] Gilgamesh

13? No scum but no game over. If there is a cult there is a leader and 3 recruits, so 4. We could be down to 9 and probably are since no unexpected corpses turned up in yellow. You can say BUT SEYMOUR HOJO AND KUJA ARE DEFINITELY INNOCENT but you'd be ignoring that those guys are the most sought after recruits because they are pro town. Everyone can be suspect save for the dead. The only guy I'm trusting right now is the resurrected Seymour because his conversion probably had to wait until tonight.

What else can hold up a game? Serial Killer. I gotta say eliminating possibilities is a way to go even if it sounds dirty, Rajin. The wiki doesn't say a SK has to kill every night, just be the last man standing. I'm leaning this way strongly unless you have a better idea than lynching inactives, ya know?

[M] Eizen
08-25-2011, 03:23 AM
##Vote: [M] Hojo

Just 'cause you're being a pain :aimkiss:

[M] Gaius
08-25-2011, 03:27 AM
Firstly, thank you Necron for responding. Good lord everybody else is balls.

Obviously I would prefer to lynch inactives. I don't want you to just kill me and hope that you win, a) because I also want to win; and b) having Fujin here gives us the ability to try and nightkill Cultists.

Kefka has been suspiciously absent the whole game, that's why I'm most suspicious of him.

Apart from that, I'm open to more discussion and questions, ya know?

[M] Eizen
08-25-2011, 03:30 AM
If we're hunting Cultists, I would prefer to do it by lynching. That gives everyone a little bit of onus, rather than me missing a kill shot and getting blamed for it.

[M] Athena
08-25-2011, 03:31 AM
Rajin;3015988']So where have Jecht and Zeromus gone? Jesus H Christ. I'm gonna fucking DIE HERE because NONE OF YOU BASTARDS BOTHERED TO READ MY POST.
I read your post. I just don't care that much. I have a feeling that if a cult is involved, the more prominent and influential players of this game were probably recruits so that would probably be Queen Brahne and Hojo.
Not pointing fingers. Just seems like the logical pick for having a chance at victory.
I know I am not cult and I know seymor isn't (yet). But as for anyone else I am unsure.

[M] Gaius
08-25-2011, 03:33 AM
Well at least you read it. Thank you :up:

[M] Apollo
08-25-2011, 03:33 AM
Alright, Raijin is definitely innocent. I haven't decided which of you should be put out of your misery today, so move along, nothing to see here.

[M] Athena
08-25-2011, 03:34 AM
I would also like to point out that as of tomorrow, Fujin will have to be lynched since Rajin foolishly revealed that she is the vigilante/killer. The cult will probably try to recruit her tomorrow. Sorry if this post seems direct but it is a fact we must now consider.

[M] Mike - Funny Dad
08-25-2011, 03:37 AM
what if cult got seymour last night? or raijin?
As of right now, Im clean, probably because if there is a cult, they dont want a useless role plus Id betray them

[M] Elize
08-25-2011, 03:37 AM
So Fujin's been killing all on her own and now she stops? For what? We knew as soon as Seifer swung that the scum were done, but the game isn't over. So what makes you stop pulling the trigger, Fujin? It cannot be because you're afraid of hitting a townie because you've been shooting non-stop from the beginning. Unless someone else can think of why a game would continue unless there's a cult or SK, I'm not seeing where else this is leading but the rope for our vigilante.

Carl the Llama
08-25-2011, 03:38 AM
Fujin;3015995']##Unvote: KaiserDragon

Your aggressive behavior is soooo sexy. Rawr!:smug:

[M] Athena
08-25-2011, 03:40 AM
Hojo;3016008']what if cult got seymour last night? or raijin?
As of right now, Im clean, probably because if there is a cult, they dont want a useless role plus Id betray them
One trusted influential player can be worth 3 power role recruits for a cult. Trusted players can lead the others to lynch innocents rather than the guilty.

[M] Elize
08-25-2011, 03:40 AM
Hojo you were perfect recruitment material when you outed yourself as the lyncher. Useless role maybe but another voter with a solid roleclaim goes a long way.

[M] Mike - Funny Dad
08-25-2011, 03:46 AM
in that case I dont beleive that a cult exists, OR they have no recruitment. I say we start with kefka because he is useless at this point being gone all the time, next up would have to be either kuja because his confirmed role making him likely to be recruited or fujin.

Or if we assume no cult.... well... I hate to say it but still kefka and either rai or fujin because they could be lying. I need roleclaims from jihl and brahne before I will decide anything. also zeromus and necron. who else hasnt roleclaimed? you know what, screw that, I dont want to be lied to. whatever we do, we should get rid of that which is useless first
##vote: kefka

[M] Athena
08-25-2011, 03:52 AM
I would prefer not to roleclaim yet but if needs be I will tomorrow (since I am heading to bed now).
Until tomorrow though, I agree with Hojo. Since Kefka is useless, no point in keeping him.
##Vote: Kefka.
And now, mon ami, I bid you a Bon Soir.

[M] Eizen
08-25-2011, 04:07 AM
Zeromus;3016007']I would also like to point out that as of tomorrow, Fujin will have to be lynched since Rajin foolishly revealed that she is the vigilante/killer. The cult will probably try to recruit her tomorrow. Sorry if this post seems direct but it is a fact we must now consider.

Or I could tell the town exactly who is in the Cult and then we can lynch them all. You mistakenly believe that being recruited naturally makes a player's goal change. My goal was to win alongside Rajin, and if I can't do that, the next best thing is to see a town victory.

Also in regards to the question about why I stopped shooting, let me first remind you of my night kills.
Night One - Ultros - Mason Lynchee
Night Two - Bartandelus - Mafia Mason
Night Three - Jenova - Mafia Usurper

Two mafia dead in there. I was trying to hit mafia. I thought that by eradicating the mafia, Rajin and I would reach our win conditions. Obviously that's not the case because the game is still running. My only conclusion is that there is a Cult.

I didn't shoot last night because I didn't know who to target and I was utterly convinced Rajin and I were burned because of his roleclaim. I could have taken a pot shot and hoped to hit a Cultist but if I had missed and hit a townie, I can guarantee that all of you would have just strung Rajin up and we would've been dead.

[M] Jeff - Single Dad
08-25-2011, 04:33 AM
Alright, alright. I'll retract my vote for Rajin because he and Fujin seem pretty reliable now they let the cat out of the bag.

##UNVOTE: Rajin

Now that's done with, it seems to me that we have a 3rd party faction, and it's most likely the Cult as some of you guys have mentioned. Methink that Kefka is our prime suspect, since he's been quiet the entire game, only showing up a few times, with his most recent being just yesterday with that stupid BOO crap. Oh yeah, we're gonna take you down and then we'll find the rest of your Cult friends as well! They don't call me the Great Jecht for nothing!

##VOTE: Kefka

[M] Jeff - Single Dad
08-25-2011, 04:36 AM
Now who's up for some 1 on 1 Blitzball action? I'LL CRUSH YOUR SOUL ALIVE!!!!

[M] Mike - Funny Dad
08-25-2011, 04:51 AM
ject, you have yet to be confirmed as well

[M] Caprica
08-25-2011, 05:06 AM
I'm a little confused about your role claim as the lovers. Not that I don't believe you are acting as lovers, that is obvious from your behavior from last night. However, I was under the impression that the lovers were from opposite sides, usually a Mafia role and a Townie role who can either win with their own side or win together if they are the only survivors. If Rajin is the Doctor then does this make Fujin a Cultist? Or a serial killer? Or are you trying to say that you are both Town aligned?

[M] Elize
08-25-2011, 05:09 AM
Oh yeah we love them roleclaims so everyone just fess up now and let's see how it looks, right? YeaaahNO.

Not wanting to hit a townie is a bs excuse because that is the risk every time you fired a shot EVERY NIGHT. You got the scum, good job but you did it too well and all the anti-town roles are dead except for the SK. What happens now in your game plan, lovers? We flip out hunting for the cult while lynching people one after another until you start killing people again?

[M] Eizen
08-25-2011, 05:19 AM
We can win with any faction so long as we're both still alive. If the mafia had killed enough townies to win, we would have won also. The same thing if the Cult wins. We've chosen to throw our goals in with the town because the town has the numbers.

Wait

Necron;3016038']We flip out hunting for the cult while lynching people one after another until you start killing people again?

I like this idea better. While you guys worry about a cult, tonight I'll kill Necron. Way to be an epic jerk, jerk :aimmad:

But you know what, lynch me. Just lynch me. Then tomorrow, when the game is still going, you can try and lynch a cultist. If you're lucky, you'll get one! Too bad the leader can then recruit another one of you innocent little townies. Tying all the cultists together and then systematically lynching and night killing them is the only way I see any of us winning this stupid thing.

[M] Elize
08-25-2011, 05:30 AM
Here are a few scenarios:
CULT 1
We kill Fujin and Raijin dies with his Serial Killer girlfriend. We were wrong, they were town, and we are down more townies. By the next day there's 5 Cult, 6 Town, pretty dangerous endgame. We then have to play a hard game as town and kill cult every time, especially the leader, before it's lights out. Best case scenario: 13=4C+9T -> 11=5C+6T -> 10=5C+5T -> SCREWED

CULT 2
We let Fujin and Raijin live because we trust them and do not want to lower our numbers anymore than they are already. Fujin may be recruited and shoot us all in our sleep. Fujin may shoot a cultist or cult leader while our lynchings go perfectly. Fujin may shoot a townie and put us in jeopardy. No math since it variates depending if Fujin kills or not and if she is recruited or not and if we get lucky or not. This is the biggest gamble I see.

SERIAL KILLER 1
We kill Fujin and Raijin dies with his Serial Killer girlfriend. Game over, everyone goes home. I wanted to say it could be Raijin=SK and Fu could be innocent, but Seymour got a result. Could be a naive cop, but we will see when we cross that bridge. 13=1SK+12T -> 12=12T

SERIAL KILLER 2
IT WAS SOMEONE ELSE ALL ALONG and we have to hunt his ass down and we can do this. It does not matter if we take out Fujin and Raijin because the SK will get to it anyways to protect himself from a vigilante nightkill. 13=1SK+12T -> 12=1SK+11T -> 11=1SK+10T ->...

Been typing this while caffeinated out of my head and since I posted my last post so I might have missed something. My math could be horribly wrong and I can't think. Comment.

[M] Eizen
08-25-2011, 05:33 AM
Seymour isn't naive, he got a guilty verdict on Seifer.

You also forgot the alternative mentioned early, whereby I just out all the cultists after being recruited and town goes home happy.

Also, the Cult is usually capped at four members. Usually.

[M] Elize
08-25-2011, 05:33 AM
Hey man, play as you do but a townie has to win as a townie, I gotta play the hand I'm dealt and I'm distinctly not Fujin. Look at it from my shoes and tell me where I went wrong. You should have kept shooting in the first place personally because you're a damn lucky shot.

[M] Elize
08-25-2011, 05:38 AM
Seymour's results suck then and are random then is a possibility then instead of naive. But the original idea is that he's trustworthy and we can believe Raijin is innocent but we don't know that about you.

Is that allowed, the backstabbing thing? I know the usurper has to do that, but what about cult? If your role's goal supersedes being a cultist, I guess that works. I'm honest when I say that's asking a lot of trust for me to believe that is how the role works.

I don't know how cults work. Usually.

[M] Eizen
08-25-2011, 05:40 AM
I guess I should apologise for calling you a jerk. You're not all bad! :aimsun:

I just knew today would have Rajin and I in the hotseat and if I had shot a townie last night, it would have definitely been game over for us. At least this way we could try and argue our case. Going on a bender didn't really aid our case but it was just so depressing. All I want to do is live in peace with my lovely Rajin :(

[M] Caprica
08-25-2011, 05:40 AM
I am not really convinced that there is a Cult yet. Rajin claims to be a Doctor, but that would really be screwed up for Town if it's Doctor was also one half of the lovers as it would compromise his role. Just because Seymour says he is innocent doesn't mean he isn't still lying about his Townie role. Also, just because there was no night kill last night doesn't mean that a night kill wasn't attempted.

[M] Eizen
08-25-2011, 05:43 AM
I did say I didn't target anyone, but if you think I'm lying there Jihl, that's fine.

I should also say that if Seymour investigated me, he would get a guilty verdict. I'm a "bad guy", but I do not believe I have to be dead for the town to win. That would effectively mean Rajin and I were never going to win, no matter what, and I'd be one unhappy maniac :aimmad:

I can backstab whoever I like. If I became a Cultist I would bring them down from the inside because I'm suffering some real bad PMS right now and it JUST MAKES ME SO ANGRY. :argh:

[M] Elize
08-25-2011, 05:45 AM
SO IF THERE IS A CULT WHO IS IT? Let's get a list:

[M] Hojo - maybe a recruit
[M] Fujin - maybe a recruit
[M] Rajin - maybe a recruit
[M] Necron - not me from my perspective, could be the leader, could be recruit
[M] Kuja - could be a recruit
[M] Zeromus - could be the leader, could be a recruit
[M] Sephiroth - could be the leader, could be a recruit
[M] Kefka - could be the leader, could be a recruit
[M] Jihl Nabaat - could be the leader, could be a recruit
[M] Seymour - could be a recruit tomorrow
[M] Jecht - could be the leader, could be a recruit
[M] Queen Brahne - could be the leader, could be a recruit
[M] Gilgamesh - could be the leader, could be a recruit

What we are after is obviously the leader. That list is:

[M] Necron
[M] Zeromus
[M] Sephiroth
[M] Kefka
[M] Jihl Nabaat
[M] Jecht
[M] Queen Brahne
[M] Gilgamesh

Great 8 people, can we narrow that down any I'm taking all suggestions because unless the odds are good it looks like I'm pissing off someone with a gun.

[M] Elize
08-25-2011, 05:47 AM
...Are vigilantes normally guilty?

[M] Eizen
08-25-2011, 05:50 AM
My role isn't "vigilante" so much as it was Lover (Killer). I didn't want to say that because everyone will jump up and down and say "you're the serial killer you're a bad guy you must die now kthxbai". That is why I'd get a guilty result.

But c'mon guys a person can change :( I turned my killing abilities to the pursuit of goodness and freedom for the town :( Why can't we break down these shackles and all live together in harmony? :(

[M] Elize
08-25-2011, 05:51 AM
Can't believe you Jihl you might be a cultist.

Someone's gotta come out and say they are the Doctor if you want me to believe our Vig/SK tried to kill someone last night. I don't see how anyone but the Doc could roleblock Fujin. If a roleclaimer wants to claim they did just that then let's see him come out so we can string up Fujin. The odds of this having happened is incredibly impossible.

[M] Eizen
08-25-2011, 05:53 AM
I have to be absentee for a while, got washing and cooking to do like a good waifu. I leave my fate in your hands and hope that you can at least put some faith in me. Together we can take down this Cult menace.

Good luck.

[M] Elize
08-25-2011, 05:55 AM
Your colors determine your guilt but that's for you to know. As I see it that means you have a killing ability but I don't know how green or red or yellow or darkbrowngreywhatever that makes you. Nothing can change your alignment save for a dirty cultist so if you are what is traditionally red/yellow, you can only win with Raijin when we are all dead.

[M] Caprica
08-25-2011, 05:58 AM
The problem I'm having is that there doesn't seem to be much evidence of a Cult, unless Kefka is the Cult Leader and never bothered to play and therefore never recruited anyone. I guess it wouldn't hurt to look through the thread to see if I can detect any bandwagoning against hapless Townies.

[M] Jeff - Single Dad
08-25-2011, 05:59 AM
Hey! Aren't we forgetting that there's also the Mason in play? Haven't we lynched two of them and shouldn't there be at least onr ot two of them remaining? It could be possible that maybe one might have been recruited by the Cult as well... I don't know what the hell I'm spouting out of my crazy old man mouth of mine, but don't you think we have to consider this?

[M] Elize
08-25-2011, 06:01 AM
Necron;3016043']SERIAL KILLER 1
We kill Fujin and Raijin dies with his Serial Killer girlfriend. Game over, everyone goes home. I wanted to say it could be Raijin=SK and Fu could be innocent, but Seymour got a result. Could be a naive cop, but we will see when we cross that bridge. 13=1SK+12T -> 12=12T
I want to amend that we could also choose to believe Fujin's town-aligned and we lynch ourselves, looking for a bad guy who is not there, and when it gets down to the final five, they lynch her or it is over. This route is doable and it'll be clear by then if there's a cult or not.

If there's a cult we are so screwed.

[M] Jeff - Single Dad
08-25-2011, 06:03 AM
ANY OF YOU SISSY MASONS OUT THERE, REVEAL YOURSELVES!!!!!!!!!!!

[M] Elize
08-25-2011, 06:07 AM
There is never evidence of a cult until a cultist ends up dead. Any luck with that bandwagon research, Jihl?

What good are Masons? There is probably only one left and no one to vouch for him if he hasn't been converted already.

[M] Harry - Dad's Dad
08-25-2011, 06:20 AM
FYI you guys shouldn't lynch me. I'm town and I can help you! And I have been helping you. And yes, that includes lurking and not posting anything of substance. Not that I have post restrictions or anything, it just works for me. But yeah, just wanted to pop in and say hi.

Kefka out.

[M] Elize
08-25-2011, 06:24 AM
How does that help us, Kefka? You and Sephiroth are two of my unfavoritist people ever.

[M] Elize
08-25-2011, 06:27 AM
##VOTE: Kefka

Because nothing beats non-contributions. I need your spare conversation.

[M] Caprica
08-25-2011, 06:34 AM
The only thing I really see that could be considered a bit scummy is on Day 1 when Sephiroth changed his vote from Hojo to Seymour to give him the majority vote for the lynch.

[M] Mike - Funny Dad
08-25-2011, 07:19 AM
kefka, fess up or perish. actually hust perish

[M] Greg - Hot Dad
08-25-2011, 07:58 AM
Well, I've already role claimed Reviver and revived Seymour. It was a one shot ability so I am pretty much just a Townie now and, as far as I know, I have not been recruited by a Cult. I understand that Kefka seems very unhelpful and it is very tempting to throw my vote on an inactive, but I don't want to play into anyone's hand by bandwagoning on an inactive.

Kefka, why haven't you been openly participating and exactly what have you been doing to help the Town? Your inactivity is making you look guilty, so why not come explain yourself and tell us what you think?

[M] Dave Stepdad
08-25-2011, 11:20 AM
Lovers can't communicate at night. How did you guys plan this all out I wonder?

[M] Trevor - Gay Dad
08-25-2011, 11:58 AM
Sorry I've been absent for so long guys, but it's good to see that you killed the last of the scum. However we have a bigger threat to deal with today, because we don't know what that threat is. I think we would have had some evidence of a Cult by now if there was one, but it could be the Cult has just recruited all the right people. I think it's too risky to kill Fujin and Raijin at this point, purely because of Raijin's Doctor claim. No one else has come forward to claim Doctor and so at this point we can assume he is telling the truth. If we kill Raijin we could leave ourselves open to some other form of night-kill, though considering no one was killed last night, presumably Fujin is the only one left with that ability.

We also need to hear more from Kefka, especially at this point in the game, about how he has been helping us.

[M] Dave Stepdad
08-25-2011, 11:59 AM
And also : Why would the smurfing doctor claim vigilante when that would mean becoming a likely target for the mafia? That's suicidal. Besides you couldn't have known Fujin's role even if you were lovers.
Something smells here my friend and it's not the chicken burger I'm feasting on.

[M] Dave Stepdad
08-25-2011, 12:03 PM
We have people claiming killer and you go vote for an inactive? Heck that guy hasn't even voted once. He's no threat.

[M] Eizen
08-25-2011, 01:11 PM
Rajin and I were encouraged to share and plan together. This isn't a(n estranged) siblings role, most lovers talk to each other. As we said earlier, we decided to role play our accounts for a bit of fun, and so we decided it was better and easier for Rajin to roleclaim Vigilante because he could actually talk normal.

You say it was suicidal? Rajin tempted the mafia to target him while protecting himself every night (except the first, in which the sweetheart protected me). It should have, in the best case scenario, caused the mafia to waste their night kills.

[M] Dave Stepdad
08-25-2011, 01:19 PM
No lovers don't talk to each other. That's only reserved to masons, mafia and cult.

[M] Elize
08-25-2011, 01:49 PM
Going by the wiki some variations allow for lovers to communicate but it is not a staple.

I don't see what a Doctor needs to protect us from now unless they have a general roleblocking/cult-curing property. Mind you there has been no signs of a cult yet.

Inactives get replaced so even non-posting people like Kefka and Sephiroth must be doing something. Where is Gilgamesh too? I want everyone out here so let's get some pressure votes spread out and add some pressure.

[M] Mom Host
08-25-2011, 01:51 PM
For clarity, Lovers would speak to each other. In fact during ff heroes Mafia I was a Lover and we had our own forum.

This is neither confirming nor denying anything but it's just a fact and role confusion has been crazy this game considering it's all been fairly standard thus far.

[M] Elize
08-25-2011, 01:52 PM
Vote count?

##UNVOTE: Kefka
##VOTE: Gilgamesh

I think we had three votes on Kefka and I'm a big fan of fuck that.

[M] Dave Stepdad
08-25-2011, 01:52 PM
I believe it's time for all of us to reveal our roles.

[M] Elize
08-25-2011, 01:57 PM
Remember 7 is the magical majority number so a cult of 4 needs 3 previous votes on someone to bandwagon. Since no one out of 6 tried to jump on the bandwagon for Kefka it is another thing in favor of NO cult.

[M] Elize
08-25-2011, 01:59 PM
Not bloody likely because it wouldn't do a lick of good right now when the suspect list for cult leader is 8 strong. What are you going to claim, Brahne, vanilla?

[M] Dave Stepdad
08-25-2011, 02:17 PM
I guess there's no harm in telling now that the mafia is dead. I'm the mother smurfing princess. Sorry if I get night killed. :(

[M] Dave Stepdad
08-25-2011, 02:20 PM
I think roleclaiming is the only way to find out the cult leader though. :p

[M] Elize
08-25-2011, 02:21 PM
There's no reason to buy anyone's claims at the moment.

[M] Dave Stepdad
08-25-2011, 02:24 PM
Perhaps I rushed a bit with my roleclaim. But anyways even if I'm killed it's still beneficial since Seymour gets 2 investigations faster. Anyway I still don't buy the lovers crap, but since Rajin turned innocent that only leaves Fujin.

[M] Elize
08-25-2011, 02:31 PM
They can still be lovers albeit having opposing alignments, they've stated their method of winning is making it to the end. Your roleclaim is strange for a Serial Killer setup and useless for proving yourself in a slow overtaking by cult. I agree the double investigation may be useful but Seymour could be killed too.

[M] Harry - Dad's Dad
08-25-2011, 02:33 PM
Well I gave it some thought and decided to be a little more forthcoming, since the mafia is dead and all I don't know if my role is useful anymore. That and my previous post hinting at a role kind of ruins the laying low thing anyway, and people tend to overanalyze things in town discussion.

I'm a White Mage. Notice how a couple of nights there weren't any town kills? Well. Maybe that could have been Raijin, but I like to think that it was just me being awesome and protecting two people at the same time. (For those of you not familiar with the White Mage role, I choose one person to protect each night, and that protection lasts for two nights.) I like to stay quiet and out of the way. It's a powerful role and it would suck if I died. So I also protected myself from time to time.

What I think of our situation:

Lovers are an independent faction. As in, not a town faction. They could be the reason the game is still running. Either way, I don't like them.

Cult is unlikely. As someone mentioned earlier, if the cult leader recruited every night, the cult would have had plenty of opportunities to end the day by now.

[M] Harry - Dad's Dad
08-25-2011, 02:33 PM
"Innocent" and "town" are two different words :p

[M] Harry - Dad's Dad
08-25-2011, 02:35 PM
And they even have a killing role to off people during the night. Wait a second...weren't the lovers of a previous game going to hold the game up should they outlive the mafia? Someone go check the Mafia archive, I'm too lazy to.

[M] Dave Stepdad
08-25-2011, 02:37 PM
We still don't know if there's a cult. But if I get recruited I'll betray them and reveal their identities XD (you've been warned).
As long as doctor? Rajin does the protecting Seymour has nothing to worry about. I still insist on everyone roleclaiming. (especially if there's another doctor or vigilante).
And Kefka's comment makes me think that he might have some role to aid us, but he always shows up when we start discussing about him, and that makes him suspicious.

[M] Dave Stepdad
08-25-2011, 02:38 PM
Kefka I would like a list of all your targets.

[M] Elize
08-25-2011, 02:45 PM
How very funky to have two protectors.

[M] Caprica
08-25-2011, 02:48 PM
Thank you for finally ending your silence Kefka, can you please tell us who you protected each night?

I chuckled when I saw Queen Brahne's role-claim and then thought of demondude and KaiserDragon and thought, it totally makes sense that our Princess is the Elephant Lady. :chuckle:

[M] Mike - Funny Dad
08-25-2011, 02:57 PM
what the hell ios the princess anyways?

[M] Elize
08-25-2011, 03:00 PM
It's like your best friend:
Main Page - MafiaWiki (http://mafiascum.net/wiki/index.php?title=Main_Page)

[M] Mom Host
08-25-2011, 03:05 PM
Perhaps your only friend. Mafia Roles by ~mikeburnfire on deviantART (http://mikeburnfire.deviantart.com/art/Mafia-Roles-72597749)

[M] Dave Stepdad
08-25-2011, 03:06 PM
Beloved Princess -Because you all love me so much, if i die you will skip the day phase and attend my funeral <3

[M] Harry - Dad's Dad
08-25-2011, 03:27 PM
Hurr durr I forgot that important part of role claiming. Sorry guys. Here are my targets:

Night 1: Myself. A good doctor/whitemage/whatever always looks out for themselves when in doubt. And never is there more doubt than day one!
Night 2: Nobody. I was genuinely inactive at this time, so I guess I wasn't actually helping you. Whoops!
Night 3: Seymour

Night 4: I will withhold this information for now because the target will still have protection during the next night. I don't want to tell anybody (anybody probably just being the Lovers) who is a safe kill


The above are my targets. Since my protection lasts for two days, here is the list of people protected during each night:

Night 1: Kefka
Night 2: Kefka
Night 3: Seymour
Night 4: Seymour, Mystery Target
Night 5 (still to come): Mystery Target, Somebody Else

[M] Al - Biker Dad
08-25-2011, 03:42 PM
I'll start with a roleclaim, Vanilla Townine Whether you all want to believe it or not all along I've just been a regular old townie. All the ...........posts from the first few days was just me roleplaying but I gave up on it when Jenova kept bitching at me!

Personally I don't believe there is a cult & the game hasn't ended because our pair of lovers are considered a seperate faction capable of still winning the game. Thus ##Vote:[M] Rajin

Kefka I'm not sure whether or not to believe your roleclaim, it seems like a desperate attempt to prove innocence at the 11th hour. But at the same time I'm not 100% sure you are lying so no vote for you.

[M] Al - Biker Dad
08-25-2011, 03:42 PM
Vanilla Townie even :lol:

[M] Harry - Dad's Dad
08-25-2011, 03:49 PM
Well there's nothing more I can tell you about that. Glad you're not voting me though! But remember when I said I'm pretty sure the game keeps going if the lovers outlive the mafia and I was too lazy to check the archives? Well I got unlazy. Here are role PMs from Mafia V:

I'll bold the important part.



Your role is Lover (Killer)

Irvine had a rough childhood. Losing his parents at an early age, and being abused by Cid and Edea in the orphanage made Irvine bitter and resentful. After saving the world with Squall and co., he began to have flashbacks of the abuse. He soon turned to alcohol to forget about it, and harder substances later. Irvine became a washed up mess.

But then...then he met her. Lulu, the pretty young med student. She made him feel alive, like he was finally worth something. He cleaned up his act and planned on settling down with her. Unfortunately, the town ostracised the two young lovers, and the stress caused Lulu to lose the baby. Irvine absolutely lost it. The town had destroyed his one chance to be happy.

And now...now the lovers want their revenge. And they intend to have it.

- You will win when only yourself and your fellow lover are left alive.
- Each night you can choose to kill any player you like.
- You will have access to the Lovers Forum, along with Lulu. It is located:

*****************

Your role is Lover (Doctor)

Lulu came from a middle class family. She was a straight A student and was on the cheerleader squad. Her proud parents encouraged her to go to med school to follow in her father's footsteps, which she did and qualified as a doctor.

And then...he entered her life. Riding a motorcycle and with a dashing ponytail, Irvine was the man of her dreams. Unfortunately, his devil-may-care attitude and rebellious temperament do not sit in well with her parent's lifestyle. Soon, she falls pregnant with his child, and although it is stillborn, the townsfolk have already turned against her and thrown her out.

And now...now the lovers want their revenge. And they intend to have it.

- You will win when only yourself and your fellow lover are left alive.
- Each night you can choose to protect any player you like.
- You do not have the ability to kill anyone. Your lover, Irvine, will be conducting the kills himself, as he does not want you to get your hands dirty.
- You will have access to the Lovers Forum, along with Lulu. It is located:


Oh and guess who was Lulu? demondude, one of our current hosts.

So which one do you guys wanna lynch? I'll go with Fujin since they say she's the killer, but they could be lying. But even if they are, that's just one more kill for them, and I'm fairly certain now they're the only ones.

[M] Athena
08-25-2011, 03:51 PM
Gilgamesh;3016170']Vanilla Townie even :lol:
You seem more like Jay from inbetweeners than a Vanilla Townie to me XD

[M] Harry - Dad's Dad
08-25-2011, 03:51 PM
##Vote: Fujin

[M] Mike - Funny Dad
08-25-2011, 03:55 PM
I hate to say it but I agree with Kefka
##unvote: kefka
##vote: fujin

[M] Athena
08-25-2011, 03:57 PM
Since it seems we have found our third party:
##Unvote: Kefka
##Vote: Fujin

[M] Elize
08-25-2011, 04:23 PM
Hey, screw that noise. Take it a little slower. What does a previous game's roles have to do with this game's roles? Digging something up like this is pretty far out there even if DD was involved. Our Doctor/Raijin was cleared, ya know? Just because it starts sounding similar doesn't make it similar.

[M] Elize
08-25-2011, 04:25 PM
Vote count please. Fujin may be on 4 and I want to see how this sudden bandwagon is developing. IT SMELLS LIKE CULT

[M] Al - Biker Dad
08-25-2011, 04:27 PM
Zeromus;3016175']
Gilgamesh;3016170']Vanilla Townie even :lol:
You seem more like Jay from inbetweeners than a Vanilla Townie to me XD

Next time I host I should base a role on him :lol:

[M] Elize
08-25-2011, 04:38 PM
Does Brahne's first vote for Raijin count? He either has one or two votes on him.
Kefka is sitting pretty with one vote by Jecht after racking up four.
Hojo has one from Fujin.
Gilgamesh has one from me.
That is it I think.

[M] Elize
08-25-2011, 04:39 PM
Latte run time.

[M] Eizen
08-25-2011, 05:39 PM
Kefka;3016144']Notice how a couple of nights there weren't any town kills?

So what you're saying is that there were three killing factions and you just managed to defend the townies, right? Rajin defended himself, so unless this magical third killing faction targeted him repeatedly, your "protection" did sh</>it all.

If anybody else had claimed this role, I would have believed them and thereby assumed that my death was all that was keeping the game in tact. But because you're such a suspicious scum bag, I can't help but feel strongly that you are a cultist.

Besides the fact that White Mages can, as far as I remember, only protect people every second night, you just rub me the wrong way.

##Unvote: [M] Hojo
##Vote: [M] Kefka

I just want you to die. Really.

[M] Al - Biker Dad
08-25-2011, 05:47 PM
##Unvote: [M] Rajin

##Vote: [M] Kefka

I just can't sake the bad feeling I have in my gut about Kefka I really just can't! Something isn't right here!

[M] Dave Stepdad
08-25-2011, 06:15 PM
##Unvote : Rajin
##Vote : Fujin

Nuff said.

[M] Dave Stepdad
08-25-2011, 06:20 PM
Zeromus, Necron what about your roles?
Gilgamesh a vanilla? That's boring.

[M] Al - Biker Dad
08-25-2011, 06:28 PM
Queen Brahne;3016215']Zeromus, Necron what about your roles?
Gilgamesh a vanilla? That's boring.

I was gonna claim Supreme Multi-Verse Overload Of Doom but I thought that would do more harm then good really :lol:

[M] Jeff - Single Dad
08-25-2011, 06:33 PM
My homeboy Gilgamesh ain't the only Vanilla Townie in the game. Yours truly, the great and inspiring Jecht, is also one, and I believe in my sword loving friend, since I've done my best to defend him while he was being accused of being something else. Sure, it doesn't benefit me, but it did benefit the town for not losing one of them. Take this what you will, I'm Vanilla Townie.

btw, I'm keeping my vote on Kefka, his story seems a little fishy to me, so depending on how this day ends, I think it will be a lot more clearer who we should all vote for tomorrow.

[M] Al - Biker Dad
08-25-2011, 06:34 PM
Glad to know somebody has had my back all this time thanks Jecht :bigsmile:

[M] Dave Stepdad
08-25-2011, 06:38 PM
4 vanillas in total. That's acceptable I guess.

[M] Dave Stepdad
08-25-2011, 06:57 PM
There's no cult guys. That would make 3 factions in one game. And that's too much for just 20 people...I think.

[M] Al - Biker Dad
08-25-2011, 07:02 PM
There are 3 factions in this game, town, mafia & lovers.

[M] Dave Stepdad
08-25-2011, 07:06 PM
I meant 3 factions other than town. :p And also too much = too many. Damn Autocorrect!

[M] Caprica
08-25-2011, 07:52 PM
I have to agree with Kefka's post mostly because when I read the role of Lovers I read that they could either win with each other or with the faction their role belonged. It didn't give any indication that the Lovers could win together if another faction won. Seymour investigated Rujin and found him innocent, and Fujin as admitted to being a Killer. Since everyone is clamoring for role claims I will give you mine, I am the Bulletproof Townie. This is why I said that just because a night kill didn't happen doesn't mean one wasn't attempted. Kefka could be lying about his role but what he says about the Lovers lines up with what I have read about the them, and I just haven't seen any evidence of a Cult.

##Vote: Fujin

[M] Elize
08-25-2011, 08:24 PM
Fujin;3016198']
Kefka;3016144']Notice how a couple of nights there weren't any town kills?

So what you're saying is that there were three killing factions and you just managed to defend the townies, right? Rajin defended himself, so unless this magical third killing faction targeted him repeatedly, your "protection" did sh</>it all.

If anybody else had claimed this role, I would have believed them and thereby assumed that my death was all that was keeping the game in tact. But because you're such a suspicious scum bag, I can't help but feel strongly that you are a cultist.

Besides the fact that White Mages can, as far as I remember, only protect people every second night, you just rub me the wrong way.

##Unvote: [M] Hojo
##Vote: [M] Kefka

I just want you to die. Really.
Sorry kiddies I'm going to side with Fujin here. I can see having a White Mage maybe, but his protection if it was there did nothing of note. We had 2 deaths on Night 1, 2 on Night 2, and 1 Night 3. Someone quote his protection list so I can laugh at--what Day are we on? We had no night kills last night.

[M] Elize
08-25-2011, 08:28 PM
SOMEONE NEEDS TO KEEP THE FIRST POST UPDATED TOO

I will weep until this whole issue goes away. Do I want Kefka killed to reveal the existence of a cult or do I want to keep the cult from recruiting Fujin/Raijin if they haven't already? If we don't win with the Fujin lynch, then remember my scenario about how we have to deal with the cultists and know we are going to need every pro-town aligned person active.

[M] Harry - Dad's Dad
08-25-2011, 08:59 PM
You guys, this is like, the most obvious endgame choice ever in the entire history of EoFF mafia. And I have played literally every game of EoFF mafia, so I'm not exaggerating when I say this! I'll lay it out nice and simple.

FACTS
Mafia is gone.
The game is still going anyway.
Raijin, the half that claims to be doctor is innocent.
Lovers vary with their alliance (according to the mafia wiki).
In a previous game, there was a doctor/killer lover pair who's win condition was to be the only players left in the game. That means, should they have outlived the mafia, the game would still go on with just them and the town.
IF there was a cult, the same would happen.
We know there is a doctor/killer lover pair.
We don't know there is cult.

[M] Harry - Dad's Dad
08-25-2011, 09:17 PM
I forgot to address this:


Fujin;3016198']
Kefka;3016144']Notice how a couple of nights there weren't any town kills?

So what you're saying is that there were three killing factions and you just managed to defend the townies, right? Rajin defended himself, so unless this magical third killing faction targeted him repeatedly, your "protection" did tit all.

This I don't understand. At all. Please clarify. I never ever targeted Raijin once in the game, and I don't understand what you mean by a magical third killing faction. I targeted only myself, Seymour, and Mystery Target.


Fujin;3016198']
If anybody else had claimed this role, I would have believed them and thereby assumed that my death was all that was keeping the game in tact. But because you're such a suspicious scum bag, I can't help but feel strongly that you are a cultist.
Why am I suspicious? :p


Fujin;3016198']
Besides the fact that White Mages can, as far as I remember, only protect people every second night, you just rub me the wrong way.

##Unvote: [M] Hojo
##Vote: [M] Kefka

I just want you to die. Really.

Well all I can tell you about that is that you remember wrong. Because I can protect every night, and my protection lasts for two nights.

You sure did get angry all of the sudden :confused:

[M] Elize
08-25-2011, 09:33 PM
Mystery Target?

[M] Mike - Funny Dad
08-25-2011, 09:33 PM
factions:mafia, masons, town, lovers, vampires, cult?

[M] Elize
08-25-2011, 09:37 PM
Look I've been for killing Fujin and Raijin as linked Lovers because they're a risk if turned into cult or if Fujin is a Killer who needs the town dead, but for someone who has come clean with such a big power role you're still pretty tight lipped, Kefka.

I guess we are doing White Mage research if anyone's up for it. I'm not I got a computer to ship suddenly and I'm hungry.

If we don't win with this lynch, can we agree that Kefka should be next? He is one of the few people I can suspect as cult leader if it comes to that.

##UNVOTE: Gilgamesh
##VOTE: Kefka

[M] Mike - Funny Dad
08-25-2011, 09:46 PM
kefka is next no matter what

[M] Harry - Dad's Dad
08-25-2011, 10:02 PM
Necron;3016253']Mystery Target?

Buh? I. What? When a power role tells you who their targets are in a nice readable post you goddamn read it. Especially when you're the one who asks for them in the first place! Mystery Target is the person who I protected the previous night, whose name I will not reveal because they will still be protected the next night. From Fujin. Assuming I'm not dead today anyway :p

But I'm not going to talk about myself anymore. I've told you everything, save for Mystery Target's identity, and that's not important. Everything we need to know has been laid out in front of us.

Change of plan in the middle of typing this post.


DO kill me.

Because if I'm right, and I totally am, then I'll come up White Mage when you lynch me, thus proving I had nothing to hide when I made these posts. Meanwhile, there will be one kill during the night from Fujin, and they'll STILL be tasked with killing the nine other players.

Okay.

So you guys do what you want, but don't take three more days to figure it out xD

[M] Trevor - Gay Dad
08-25-2011, 10:24 PM
Just thought I'd say that I think that we have enough time to let Fujin and Raijin live for another day or two and try to find out if there is another faction in play. If not, we kill them in a few days time and hopefully we win, but it's pointless killing off a doctor and a killing role if we might need them to rid us of a third faction.

[M] Dave Stepdad
08-25-2011, 11:18 PM
Yeah but if we kill Kefka then Fujin is going to kill me and after that kill someone else the following night.

[M] Dave Stepdad
08-25-2011, 11:19 PM
It's better to remove a killing role. The cult can't kill.

[M] Mike - Funny Dad
08-25-2011, 11:20 PM
fujin is tonight, then kefka

[M] Elize
08-25-2011, 11:27 PM
Kefka;3016261']
Necron;3016253']Mystery Target?

Buh? I. What? When a power role tells you who their targets are in a nice readable post you goddamn read it. Especially when you're the one who asks for them in the first place! Mystery Target is the person who I protected the previous night, whose name I will not reveal because they will still be protected the next night. From Fujin. Assuming I'm not dead today anyway :p

But I'm not going to talk about myself anymore. I've told you everything, save for Mystery Target's identity, and that's not important. Everything we need to know has been laid out in front of us.

Change of plan in the middle of typing this post.


DO kill me.

Because if I'm right, and I totally am, then I'll come up White Mage when you lynch me, thus proving I had nothing to hide when I made these posts. Meanwhile, there will be one kill during the night from Fujin, and they'll STILL be tasked with killing the nine other players.

Okay.

So you guys do what you want, but don't take three more days to figure it out xD
I'd read who Mystery Target was if you said an actual name. Why bother hiding who it was when Fujin is this close to death, MT cannot be killed, and the other option is to kill you? I am all about killing you and taking another three days to solve this case so I do like your offer. This Mystery carp is extra icing on the cake.

[M] Elize
08-25-2011, 11:29 PM
Queen Brahne;3016297']Yeah but if we kill Kefka then Fujin is going to kill me and after that kill someone else the following night.
Who added that wonderful dilemma to our table hmm? Being killed is hardly the worst fate we could meet and losing two people? Still doesn't get Fujin off the hook if and when it happens.

[M] Dave Stepdad
08-25-2011, 11:30 PM
Yeah but if there's a cult then you're done for.

[M] Elize
08-25-2011, 11:31 PM
We can always kill the killer if it comes to it.

The only way we are screwed is if there's a killer AND a cult.

[M] Elize
08-25-2011, 11:31 PM
Nice.

[M] Elize
08-25-2011, 11:37 PM
I'll give you a second.

[M] Elize
08-25-2011, 11:43 PM
But whomever you are, you're right I wouldn't believe you now because you could pick a name at random but why couldn't you disclose the name when you decided to come clean? Coming out strongly against the Lovers and claiming invulnerability would be another reason for them to fight fiercely to have you lynched and show everyone how desperate they could get.

[M] Dave Stepdad
08-25-2011, 11:51 PM
You guys should really use two browsers with different themes :p
Necron why won't you tell us your role? -_-

[M] Harry - Dad's Dad
08-25-2011, 11:52 PM
The thought didn't really occur to me. But, we've pretty much won anyway, so why don't we just celebrate early?

Hooray! :cheer:

[M] Harry - Dad's Dad
08-25-2011, 11:53 PM
Post I'm about to delete because I made it in the wrong account:


I'll admit you make a point about it being pointless. Mystery Target is just me again :<

But, I don't see how that was important. Nobody town will benefit from that knowledge. And now that you know, do you actually believe me any more than you did before? Would you have honestly believed me any more than you do know if I had told you from the beginning. No, because it's always possible to make up a name on the spot. But it doesn't matter :p

[M] Mike - Funny Dad
08-25-2011, 11:56 PM
no way there is a cult, too many things, see previous post. lets get fuji, then the clown, then ..... well..... after that we have nothin

[M] Elize
08-25-2011, 11:57 PM
Queen Brahne;3016314']You guys should really use two browsers with different themes :p
Necron why won't you tell us your role? -_-
Because saying something like HEY I AM THE PRINCESS NIGHTKILL ME is daft.

It could be smart if you were trying to prevent a day lynch too...

[M] Elize
08-26-2011, 12:00 AM
See my beef with people saying there's no cult is that everyone who says it is exactly the people I'd expect to be in the cult.

[M] Mike - Funny Dad
08-26-2011, 12:01 AM
theres too many factions, how ould it work?

[M] Dave Stepdad
08-26-2011, 12:12 AM
Well you're not saying anything about your role so you could as well as be one -_-
Anyway do whatever you want. It ends with the couple's death.

[M] Elize
08-26-2011, 12:18 AM
Hojo;3016320']theres too many factions, how ould it work?
You're asking me how a DD game works?

Why is four factions too many when we have a doctor, a white mage, a roleblocker and a non-scum killer? It could be enough to balance things out while the scum and killer murder everyone, the two healers protect who they can, the roleblocker blocked, and the cult recruited. Chaos is DD's MO right?

Brahne, claiming a role would not exonerate me and nor does it you.

[M] Dave Stepdad
08-26-2011, 12:34 AM
Necron;3016326'][QUOTE='[M] Hojo;3016320']

Brahne, claiming a role would not exonerate me and nor does it you.

It worked with Jenova and Gabranth.

[M] Mike - Funny Dad
08-26-2011, 12:41 AM
..... why are you changing pquotes

Carl the Llama
08-26-2011, 02:15 AM
Omg guys... the vote count is tied... and the deadline was like 1 hour ago

Kefka [5] - Jecht, Rajin, Fujin, Necron, Gilgamesh.
Fujin [5] - Hojo, Zeromus, Kefka, Queen Brahne, Jihl Nabaat.

[M] Trevor - Gay Dad
08-26-2011, 02:24 AM
While I'm here, after how badly my last tie-breaker did, I'm not sure I want to break this one.

Carl the Llama
08-26-2011, 02:44 AM
Sephiroth;3016347']While I'm here, after how badly my last tie-breaker did, I'm not sure I want to break this one.

x.x

[M] Harry - Dad's Dad
08-26-2011, 02:54 AM
You really can't mess this up. There are two choices.

You can choose Fujin, and then the town wins.
or
You can choose me, and then the next day everyone will get their heads straight, vote Fujin, and then the town wins.


Seriously, I haven't done the math, but you guys should have a few more days to fuck it up if you don't get it right today. Fujin has to kill literally every other player besides herself and Raijin.

[M] Harry - Dad's Dad
08-26-2011, 02:56 AM
By really can't mess this up, I mean it's impossible to mess up, not "you had better get this right."

So just eenie meenie miney moe?

Carl the Llama
08-26-2011, 02:57 AM
I will sleep now, this tie better be broken by the time I wake up or I might have both parties lynched!

Vote and save, no vote and condemn, the choice I leave to you.