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Shiny
03-10-2012, 10:19 PM
How good are you at detecting if people are lying?

There is also a test that allows you to see how good you are at spotting fake smiles versus genuine smiles.

BBC - Science & Nature - Human Body and Mind - Spot The Fake Smile (http://www.bbc.co.uk/science/humanbody/mind/surveys/smiles/)

Huckleberry Quin
03-10-2012, 10:32 PM
I got 17 out of 20 right. I was caught out by Ben Affleck (9), the elderly James May (16) and Adam Baldwin (17). Put no great consideration into each answer, just clicked based on the feeling I got. Not too shabby. :D

:D <- Genuine or fake?

Sephex
03-10-2012, 10:33 PM
10 out of 20 for me. Turns out that I was focusing on the eyes too much when I should have been paying more attention to the cheek muscles!

EDIT: I also found it funny that I got half right because I chose the middle option for the outlook on life and confidence in spotting fake smiles questions before the test truly began.

krissy
03-10-2012, 10:46 PM
17
james may got me too

Psychotic
03-11-2012, 03:16 AM
I played LA Noire, so I know that when people spin their head around and have a seizure it means they're lying.

I got 20/20 btw :spin:

Jinx
03-11-2012, 03:26 AM
I got 14/20 right. Decent.

Tigmafuzz
03-11-2012, 05:48 AM
20/20 for me. Then again, I studied Hellstromism for a few months... before it started pissing me off when I could tell people were lying to me.


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Most people are surprisingly bad at spotting fake smiles. One possible explanation for this is that it may be easier for people to get along if they don't always know what others are really feeling.

Although fake smiles often look very similar to genuine smiles, they are actually slightly different, because they are brought about by different muscles, which are controlled by different parts of the brain.
Fake smiles can be performed at will, because the brain signals that create them come from the conscious part of the brain and prompt the zygomaticus major muscles in the cheeks to contract. These are the muscles that pull the corners of the mouth outwards.
Genuine smiles, on the other hand, are generated by the unconscious brain, so are automatic. When people feel pleasure, signals pass through the part of the brain that processes emotion. As well as making the mouth muscles move, the muscles that raise the cheeks the orbicularis oculi and the pars orbitalis also contract, making the eyes crease up, and the eyebrows dip slightly.
Lines around the eyes do sometimes appear in intense fake smiles, and the cheeks may bunch up, making it look as if the eyes are contracting and the smile is genuine. But there are a few key signs that distinguish these smiles from real ones. For example, when a smile is genuine, the eye cover fold - the fleshy part of the eye between the eyebrow and the eyelid - moves downwards and the end of the eyebrows dip slightly.
Scientists distinguish between genuine and fake smiles by using a coding system called the Facial Action Coding System (FACS), which was devised by Professor Paul Ekman of the University of California and Dr Wallace V. Friesen of the University of Kentucky.

They need a "coding system" for this? I had this down pat like a year ago.

Ace Protorney
03-11-2012, 05:57 AM
Wow, I must really suck or I've been looking at the wrong muscles while checking each smile out. I have 7 out of 20 right, and I was feeling a little confident I would get at least 10 right. :\

Bunny
03-11-2012, 06:35 AM
I got 15 out of 20. I went kinda fast though and wasn't paying much attention.

Shlup
03-11-2012, 06:48 AM
I got the guy with the long, black hair and crazy long teeth wrong because I was distracted by his odd hairline and crazy long teeth. And a few other people I just failed on. 16/20

nik0tine
03-11-2012, 07:07 AM
I got 14/20 right. Decent.

blackmage_nuke
03-11-2012, 07:30 AM
I got 14 but only did really well in the second half when i started choosing people based on how big the smile is compared to thier initial face (Bigger difference meant fake)

Pike
03-11-2012, 07:47 AM
18/20. Years of drawing cartoon characters taught me that the most important aspect of a real smile is if the corners of a person's eyes crinkle a bit when they grin. You have to watch the cheeks!

fire_of_avalon
03-11-2012, 08:01 AM
16/20. I think it's probably easier to tell a liar from a fake smiler though. Unless they are a really good liar.

Lone Wolf Leonhart
03-11-2012, 01:09 PM
13/20. I tried paying attention to how their mouths looked after the smile.

The idea being:

Genuine went from :D to :)

Fake went from :D to :|

Now I know I should have went with another method. I chose both middle options for the pre-test questions, but I don't know if the answers to those effect anything.

Rantz
03-11-2012, 01:12 PM
13/20. I tried paying attention to how their mouths looked after the smile.

The idea being:

Genuine went from :D to :)

Fake went from :D to :|

That's what I did too, and I got the same result.

GhandiOwnsYou
03-11-2012, 10:53 PM
17/20. I missed the 1, 3 and 4 because I wasn't really paying attention. My wife was leaving for the store and talking to me. Once I actually paid attention it was fairly easy.

Shattered Dreamer
03-11-2012, 11:20 PM
16 out of 20, the eyes are a great give away & unsurprisingly all the ones I got wrong were kinda cross eyed :lol:

Shiny
03-12-2012, 12:33 AM
I got the guy with the long, black hair and crazy long teeth wrong because I was distracted by his odd hairline and crazy long teeth. And a few other people I just failed on. 16/20
I think that was a woman...albeit a very odd looking one.


13/20. I tried paying attention to how their mouths looked after the smile.

The idea being:

Genuine went from :D to :)

Fake went from :D to :|

Now I know I should have went with another method. I chose both middle options for the pre-test questions, but I don't know if the answers to those effect anything.

I'm one of those people who quickly stop smiling. Even if it's a genuine smile I go from default face very quickly because my cheeks get easily tired. I got 18/20 and was looking at the crows feet and the squint of their eyes.

Bubba
03-12-2012, 02:56 AM
I think I was too pessimistic.

I got 13/20.

Slothy
03-12-2012, 03:34 AM
I got 16, though I recall doing this before, quite poorly I might add, about a year ago and had some idea of what to look for. I seem to recall last time I got around 50%. Given that that's about what random chance would dictate I'd say I'm not really that good at all.

Loony BoB
03-12-2012, 01:52 PM
17/20, missed on #1, #4 and #17. Not sure if I'd have scored any differently had I spent more time analysing them(I just quickly made a decision as soon as they smiled), but hey, it's good enough for me. I tend to watch the eyes and the cheeks more than anything. Also, I wonder if anyone can spot my fake smile, because I take such things into account... :shifty:

Jessweeee♪
03-12-2012, 04:19 PM
15/20

Better than I thought I'd do.

Pike
03-12-2012, 04:44 PM
17/20, missed on #1, #4 and #17. Not sure if I'd have scored any differently had I spent more time analysing them(I just quickly made a decision as soon as they smiled), but hey, it's good enough for me. I tend to watch the eyes and the cheeks more than anything. Also, I wonder if anyone can spot my fake smile, because I take such things into account... :shifty:

BoB we need two pictures of you: One where you are fake-smiling and one where you are really smiling. Then we can find out.

Hollycat
03-12-2012, 04:57 PM
If you look closely you can see the smile is a fake.

18/20

Alive-Cat
03-12-2012, 05:09 PM
all the smiles are fake these stupid phonies with they fake smiles, you don't fool me with your corruption, lies and deceit! poisoning The Eyes On Final Fantasy Forums Experience!

Mirage
03-14-2012, 10:06 PM
17 out of 20. Looking at everything but the mouth itself is the key to detecting fake smiles.

Freya
03-14-2012, 10:28 PM
Yeah I got 15/20. Weird lady guy person and afleck and the first 3 heh cause I was speeding through the first three. I did better than I thought I would!

Sephex
03-15-2012, 01:54 AM
I still have the worst score! Score!!

EDIT: Make that second worst score. Forgot about Proto's post.

sharkythesharkdogg
03-15-2012, 04:37 AM
I scored 19/20. I thought I'd do well, but it's nice to know I was correct. :p

TheGlassesGirl
03-15-2012, 10:46 PM
Having Asperger's, all of them look fake to me. :confused:

leader of mortals
03-15-2012, 11:23 PM
I got 16 out of 20. Not bad, I guess.

Tigmafuzz
03-16-2012, 09:28 AM
Having Asperger's, all of them look fake to me. :confused:
Wasn't a problem for me :monster:

Yar
03-16-2012, 09:32 AM
They're all really ugly...

Steve
03-21-2012, 05:44 PM
I had 16/20 correct the silly thing is I should easily have gotten 19 but I wasn't paying enough attention xD

Unbreakable Will
03-21-2012, 08:34 PM
14 out of 20
Not too shabby since I was only paying attention to the eyes.