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B Wald
05-25-2012, 01:33 PM
There has been some discussion, off and on, over wheteher or not the FF7 world is supposed to be our own sweet home, 3rd stone from the sun. Obviously it would be an alternate reality of some sort, but the fact remains there is a poster of Texas in Tifa's bar, and Mr. Strife can order "Korean BBQ" at the diner in Wall Market. So, whadda you think? POST YOUR COMMENTS, MORTALS.

Karifean
05-25-2012, 02:36 PM
Final Fantasy VII - #61 - Sephiroth's Super Nova - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hTc9sLmOR0A)

darkchrono
05-25-2012, 02:52 PM
There has been some discussion, off and on, over wheteher or not the FF7 world is supposed to be our own sweet home, 3rd stone from the sun. Obviously it would be an alternate reality of some sort, but the fact remains there is a poster of Texas in Tifa's bar, and Mr. Strife can order "Korean BBQ" at the diner in Wall Market. So, whadda you think? POST YOUR COMMENTS, MORTALS.

Don't drive yourself crazy with stuff like this that was never meant to be intended but is only around because of the wild imaginations some of the people who play the game have.

They also have Japanese writing all over the place. But does that mean it takes place on Earth? No. The reason it is has Japanese writing all over buildings is because the game was made in Japan.

You think the people who made the game are going to take the time to create an entirely new language and beverage line and state map? No they aren't. If they want to decorate the walls or backgrounds or whatever they are just going to do it with things they are already familiar with.

None of it means the game took place on some futuristic Earth.

Hollycat
05-25-2012, 03:15 PM
According to supernova, it is earth.

Alpha2099
05-25-2012, 04:29 PM
I just say earth in conversation, but I've seen in other places that it's supposed to be Gaia. I use the age-old philosophy: It's just a game, who really cares?

Karifean
05-25-2012, 06:19 PM
It's obviously not our Earth although it is in the same solar system and is named Gaia (which is just another word for Earth). I guess they just wanted to make it feel as close to the players as possible.

Sephex
05-25-2012, 07:31 PM
Quick note: I can't remember where I read this, so I can't link, but most of the solar system Supernova animation was added for versions outside the US. I never looked into it myself. If that's the case than we can't rely on the Supernova animation.

Karifean
05-25-2012, 09:50 PM
Apparently you're right... except it's Japan and not the US: Japanese Supernova of Sephiroth - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IWcFUQ0THJ0)

Sephex
05-25-2012, 11:07 PM
Apparently you're right... except it's Japan and not the US: Japanese Supernova of Sephiroth - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IWcFUQ0THJ0)


D'OH! I actually meant to say the opposite. Yeah, the Japanese one is shorter, and the animation that US players got was added for that version.

Sum1sGruj
05-26-2012, 03:13 AM
FFVII is post-middle ages in FF land. Think about it- you have Midgar who just discovered electricity, and guns are prominent.
The rest of FF land is using swords and magic.

Makes sense to me :roll2

Jiro
05-27-2012, 12:24 AM
There are of course issues with trusting the Supernova video, not just because it was added for non-Japanese audiences but also because the solar system can be destroyed twice or more. That animation has been discussed here before and it was kind of agreed that it was merely a demonstration of how powerful it is and isn't very literal.

The various "Earthly" references seen in the game are purely there as homages. Its far easier for people to put in images that we'll relate to and respond to in the way that they want if they simply use Earth stuff. For instance, Tifa's bar is meant to have that typical atmosphere you'd find in a Texan bar obviously. How better to communicate that then to throw a neon Texas sign in there? And in regards to the Supernova animation, it might be a bit easier to understand the gravity (no pun intended) of Sephiroth's attack when you see your own solar system destroyed rather than a couple of random planets.

The fact they always refer to the planet as "the Planet" is enough for me to realise it's not Earth.

darkchrono
05-27-2012, 02:37 AM
There are of course issues with trusting the Supernova video, not just because it was added for non-Japanese audiences but also because the solar system can be destroyed twice or more. That animation has been discussed here before and it was kind of agreed that it was merely a demonstration of how powerful it is and isn't very literal.

The various "Earthly" references seen in the game are purely there as homages. Its far easier for people to put in images that we'll relate to and respond to in the way that they want if they simply use Earth stuff. For instance, Tifa's bar is meant to have that typical atmosphere you'd find in a Texan bar obviously. How better to communicate that then to throw a neon Texas sign in there? And in regards to the Supernova animation, it might be a bit easier to understand the gravity (no pun intended) of Sephiroth's attack when you see your own solar system destroyed rather than a couple of random planets.

The fact they always refer to the planet as "the Planet" is enough for me to realise it's not Earth.

Definitely true. There must be lots of people out there who take things slightly more seriously than they should. It would be kind of silly for them to design nine entirely new planets in space just to show animation for an enemy attack.

Rodney
05-29-2012, 10:44 AM
According to supernova, it is earth.

I just call it The Planet, but yeah, Sephiroth's use of Supernova does make me think it might actually be Earth, or some variation of it.

Roogle
05-31-2012, 11:00 PM
The planet that Final Fantasy VII is inspired by our own planet, undoubtedly, but I think it is meant to represent a different, fictional planet despite the animation of Supernova.

Jiro
06-25-2012, 10:54 AM
dont see no midgar or nothing on my planet so its not earth. duh

ReloadPsi
06-25-2012, 01:18 PM
The planet that Final Fantasy VII is inspired by our own planet, undoubtedly, but I think it is meant to represent a different, fictional planet despite the animation of Supernova.

That and... well, someone else already pointed out that Supernova only looked that way in the western releases.

Didn't something like the Ultimania or part of the Compilation or someone at Square explicitly say it was called Gaia?

Cloudane
06-25-2012, 04:35 PM
It's been known as Gaia for quite a while. Though not the same Gaia as FFIX, I don't think.

I recall one of them (Nomura I think) once also alluding to the idea that Shinra is a descendant of the kid in FFX-2 and that at some point they were capable of space travel and moved on from Spira (presumably after sucking the Farplane dry!)

Jinx
06-25-2012, 04:47 PM
AND THEN THEY NAMED THE TOWN KALM AFTER THE CALM

right

right?

Cloudane
06-25-2012, 04:56 PM
Right!

Also, materia = spheres, only with magic..ness recorded instead of video.

And the mountains of Gagazet live on as Tifa's boobs.

Jiro
06-25-2012, 05:01 PM
I don't know why I didn't see all of this before. It makes so much sense!

krissy
06-25-2012, 06:38 PM
explains why when people die in advent children they disperse almost liek BEING SENT

hmmm
hmmm
hmmm

sent to the lifestream

interesting

Jiro
06-25-2012, 07:06 PM
Terribly convenient.