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ReloadPsi
09-07-2012, 12:46 AM
I don't like FF9's ending and I will tell you why.
After the complete ass-pull that is Necron appears and basically makes the up-till-now excellent story completely fall apart at the last second we're then treated to this lengthy scene where the characters stand around in a static frame and talk for a few minutes. Okay, fair enough, 7 and 8 did the stand around and talk thing before its ending really kicked off, no worries.
But it gets worse. After like a fifteen second FMV of an airship flying away, Zidane then does this parcour scene that's so lazily rendered that it can best be described by this link:
http://www.youtu.be/PJQVlVHsFF8
Afterwards we get a lot of boring dialogue that consists of "I'm walking! Now I'm philosophising and it's all thanks to Zidane!" that pretty much summarises what we'd already seen and then we get the abridged version of I Want To Be Your Canary.
Then there's a running scene with Garnet and the credits roll, complete with a "PREVIOUSLY ON FF9" montage.
Frakkin' yawn. I found this ending boring and frankly unbefitting of an excellent game. The first time I saw it I actually ended up saying "That ending sucked!" out loud. I'm pretty sure I had company at the time so I wasn't going insane just yet.
Did anyone else feel really let down by this game's ending?
Freya
09-07-2012, 03:44 AM
You don't like anything it seems. Haven't you heard the phrase, "if you don't have anything nice to say, don't say it at all." :colbert:
Necron's place as the final boss was in of itself an important throw back to the old Final Fantasy games.
If you look at the clear bookended theatre references you will see that Final Fantasy IX draws a lot from theatre which can be didactic at times. Hence the monologues.
The scene with Zidane running through the Iifa tree is clearly badly done but that should not detract from anything. When did graphics have an effect on the storyline, hmm?
blackmage_nuke
09-07-2012, 04:26 AM
I felt Dagger dropping her necklace didnt really prove anything, the trinket is a few meters away, Zidane isnt going anywhere! and she turns back to stare at it for the 5 seconds it wouldve taken to pick it up. If it had fallen off and she just kept running maybe it mightve made a statement but i dont think it made any strong emotional effect the way it was done.
I didnt mind the whole visit each character and see what theyve learnt/what theyre doing thing. Its got that nice FFVI lets sum up everything feel.
Necron was balls though, and came out of nowhere.
charliepanayi
09-07-2012, 09:00 AM
Your opinion is bad and you should feel bad! The ending is wonderful, I find it really moving with Vivi's letter and all.
Necron is a bit out of left field but I've never been too fussed about it.
Cloudane
09-07-2012, 09:32 AM
That moment when you read between the lines and realise that Vivi probably died after the letter though :(
"Farewell. My memories will be part of the sky"
*sniffle*
ReloadPsi
09-07-2012, 11:45 AM
The scene with Zidane running through the Iifa tree is clearly badly done but that should not detract from anything. When did graphics have an effect on the storyline, hmm?
During the ending I expect a bit of a spectacle for beating the game. This one bored me and the one sequence that could've been dead exciting was really half-assed.
I felt Dagger dropping her necklace didnt really prove anything, the trinket is a few meters away, Zidane isnt going anywhere! and she turns back to stare at it for the 5 seconds it wouldve taken to pick it up. If it had fallen off and she just kept running maybe it mightve made a statement but i dont think it made any strong emotional effect the way it was done.
I didnt mind the whole visit each character and see what theyve learnt/what theyre doing thing. Its got that nice FFVI lets sum up everything feel.
I CAME INTO THIS THREAD TO SAY THIS
<3
Seriously, this always bugged the tit out of me.
Christmas
09-12-2012, 03:49 PM
I felt Dagger dropping her necklace didnt really prove anything, the trinket is a few meters away, Zidane isnt going anywhere! and she turns back to stare at it for the 5 seconds it wouldve taken to pick it up. If it had fallen off and she just kept running maybe it mightve made a statement but i dont think it made any strong emotional effect the way it was done.
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Hmm... I always thought that necklace is like the symbol of her royal status. And by being with Zidane might affect that status. So after it drops, she hesitated whether to keep her current status as it is or forget about it and go to Zidane. So that particular 5 seconds might be a crucial turning point in her life to make a really important decision. :bigsmile:
Just my views though. :bigsmile:
Iceglow
09-12-2012, 10:05 PM
I think Christmas is on to something there with her opinion. Though really I can't see many people in Alexandria or anywhere on the Misty Continent having much complaint about Zidane becoming her Prince Consort since he was so damn instrumental in saving the world.
I think Christmas is on to something there with her opinion. Though really I can't see many people in Alexandria or anywhere on the Misty Continent having much complaint about Zidane becoming her Prince Consort since he was so damn instrumental in saving the world.
And I think he basically made friends with everyone everywhere he went.
krissy
09-13-2012, 01:14 AM
i have no issues with the ending
why wouldn't they encounter the personification of death and demise after kuja ultima's everything? bill and ted had to cheat death too. zidane and co took a more direct approach and beat the crap out of it
Christmas
09-13-2012, 03:59 AM
I think Christmas is on to something there with her opinion. Though really I can't see many people in Alexandria or anywhere on the Misty Continent having much complaint about Zidane becoming her Prince Consort since he was so damn instrumental in saving the world.
Ya, the only one that opposes is Steiner. But then again, the general public has no idea about her relationship with Zidane? :bigsmile:
Nightsintodreams
10-14-2012, 02:30 PM
I'm going to go ahead and echo the posters above:
This game is very much like a play, even with the play-within-a-play part (Think Hamlet). Ultimately, everything gets wrapped up with a nice bow at the end and the girl chooses love. The necklace being dropped is symbolic of her choice, and it doesn't matter whether or not she goes five feet away or ten miles away, the same result is...
She dropped it.
Everyone got their happy ending...except Vivi of course.
I actually loved it. Especially the fact that the narration is basically a post-humous letter by Vivi. Always makes my eyes water :cry:
Weimar Pluto Knight VII
10-15-2012, 12:05 AM
I always had trouble understanding the monologue but yea this thread made me go on final fantasy wikia and they say he says the monologue so he did die, which you can deduce b/c in the japanese version you can tell from the speech patterns. Man I gotta go watch the ending again with that realization.
Cloudane
10-15-2012, 01:53 PM
Yeah first time around I assumed it was Kuja, but by the time you've played a couple of times and know everyone and everything inside out, it's really obvious that it's Vivi.
Turns it into quite a sad ending, gets me every time :(
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