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Jowy
09-19-2012, 04:18 PM
I can't be the only one who does this.

nik0tine
09-19-2012, 04:27 PM
I do this.

Denmark
09-19-2012, 04:27 PM
7's rarely, z's though. comes from taking math classes where you have to write z a lot and your z's are hard to differentiate from your 2's otherwise

Beowulf
09-19-2012, 04:28 PM
Nope, not just you. I cross my sevens, and my Z's as well.

sharkythesharkdogg
09-19-2012, 04:29 PM
My father does this.

I usually write my fours closed instead of open, and I give my ones little hats and bases.

Night Fury
09-19-2012, 04:31 PM
I do this :)

Slothy
09-19-2012, 04:43 PM
People who cross their 7's should be dragged behind the shed and shot.

Loony BoB
09-19-2012, 04:55 PM
I do it sometimes, and with good reason. When you are handwriting numbers and letters alongside each other in serial numbers and whatnot, you need to ensure that everyone who reads what you wrote will be able to read each character correctly. 2 and Z are often mistaken for one another in particular. Depending on people's writing, I can confuse 9 and G, 6 and 0, 1 and 7 and of course 2 and Z. Most other letters and numbers are easy enough to work out.

Shorty
09-19-2012, 05:08 PM
Sevens and zees, baby.

Vivi, I am going to return from seventh circle of hell to haunt you for that comment.

Slothy
09-19-2012, 05:12 PM
Go ahead. I know who to call (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lx_vWkv50uk).

Shorty
09-19-2012, 05:12 PM
You keep Bill Murray out of this.

Slothy
09-19-2012, 05:15 PM
Why would anyone want to keep Bill Murray out of anything?

Shorty
09-19-2012, 05:16 PM
He is too almighty to be a part of squabbles!

I bet Bill Murray crosses his sevens.

Slothy
09-19-2012, 05:22 PM
If he does, it's only because he's Bill Murray and knows no one will tell him not to.

Shorty
09-19-2012, 05:23 PM
:colbert:

Denmark
09-19-2012, 05:30 PM
I do it sometimes, and with good reason. When you are handwriting numbers and letters alongside each other in serial numbers and whatnot, you need to ensure that everyone who reads what you wrote will be able to read each character correctly. 2 and Z are often mistaken for one another in particular. Depending on people's writing, I can confuse 9 and G, 6 and 0, 1 and 7 and of course 2 and Z. Most other letters and numbers are easy enough to work out.

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SeronStar
09-19-2012, 05:35 PM
I also cross my sevens.

Goldenboko
09-19-2012, 05:42 PM
depends what I'm doing. I get pretty descript with Z's, 7's and the like when calculusing

Denmark
09-19-2012, 05:43 PM
I also have to make a pretty concerted effort to distinguish my 5's from my S's

Beowulf
09-19-2012, 05:50 PM
I've always crossed my 7's and Z's. Never my 0's, though. Maybe I should, though I hardly write 0's on paper, these days. Usually I type everything I need.

Raistlin
09-19-2012, 06:03 PM
If you have to cross your 7s in order to distinguish them, you need to write better.

I don't cross Zs or 0s either, but at least I can see a basis for that.

Clo
09-19-2012, 06:08 PM
I don't cross my sevens, but I cross my Zs.

I also like to actually draw the little hat on the 'a', like it has when you type it. See!

Goldenboko
09-19-2012, 06:18 PM
If you have to cross your 7s in order to distinguish them, you need to write better.

I don't cross Zs or 0s either, but at least I can see a basis for that.
Not when you are more concerned about the 3D Flux Integral >:0

Jinx
09-19-2012, 06:22 PM
I cross my 7s and my Zs. Like sharky, I also write my 4s closed <-----like you see there

The thing about crossing your zeros--they should only be crossed when zero is the only number. Example: You should not cross your zeros in the number 600. You should cross your zero for $0 (if you were counting a drawer or something.) The reason that line is there is that so someone can't add a number before it, and fraud money (turning 0 into 70 or something.) So you know that zero is the true answer.

Goldenboko
09-19-2012, 06:25 PM
I cross zeroes when doing certain maths. C + s*cos(0) can get confusing when written out.

Jinx
09-19-2012, 06:30 PM
I cross zeroes when doing certain maths. C + s*cos(0) can get confusing when written out.

This is acceptable. If you're crossing a zero to distinguish between an O, that's alright.

Just to make your zero look pretty, no.

Araciel
09-19-2012, 06:30 PM
Cross the Ts and dot the..

...lower-case Js.

Shorty
09-19-2012, 06:30 PM
If you have to cross your 7s in order to distinguish them, you need to write better.

It's not to distinguish them, it's to make them look pretty!

Jinx
09-19-2012, 06:35 PM
If you have to cross your 7s in order to distinguish them, you need to write better.

It's not to distinguish them, it's to make them look pretty!

This, and I don't know a ton of people who cross 7s anymore.

Alpha2099
09-19-2012, 07:04 PM
I don't cross 7's, but I do cross Z's. Otherwise they kinda look like 2's.

Slothy
09-19-2012, 07:06 PM
If you have to cross your 7s in order to distinguish them, you need to write better.

I don't cross Zs or 0s either, but at least I can see a basis for that.

This man knows what he's talking about. Although I disagree about seeing a basis for crossing Zs unless you make your 2's as written on a keyboard rather than with the loop at the bottom. In which case the problem is still needing to write better.

Balzac
09-19-2012, 07:55 PM
Yeah I cross my sevens.

Tigmafuzz
09-19-2012, 08:37 PM
If you have to cross your 7s in order to distinguish them, you need to write better.

This. I didn't even learn to write until I was nine and I probably have better handwriting than most of you :colbert: all my letters and numbers are easily distinguishable as what they are. Especially if there are both letters and numbers. So "oh well they look similar and if I'm writing letters and numbers together" is no excuse. When doing calculus I make a very slight dash inside the circle near the top as I'm drawing it so it's distinguishable as a zero but not dumb-looking. Also 0 is skinny and O is plump anyway. 1 always has a base and that extra little dash thing at the top, but it stand up straight so it's easily distinguishable from 7, which is slanted and doesn't have a base. Plus I draw 2 with the little curly at the bottom so it's distinguishable from Z. Take a calligraphy course or something, jeez.


It's not to distinguish them, it's to make them look pretty!

Then you are wrong :doublecolbert:

~*~Celes~*~
09-19-2012, 08:46 PM
I cross my zs and my 7s, i think it looks nice :D

Shorty
09-19-2012, 08:52 PM
blatant nonsense about how tigma has better handwriting than god at age nine

shut up tigma :colbert:

Old Manus
09-19-2012, 08:55 PM
I cross my sevens. I also write fours like an actual 4 instead of that open-top version they seem to teach the kids these days.

But what really riles me, I mean what will actually make me instantly sever all contact with you, is when I see you do your Zs like Ʒ. That's not a z, its a fucking well-hung 3. You're not cool for using it.

Tigmafuzz
09-19-2012, 08:58 PM
ignorant comment showing that she doesn't even read what people actually write and wants an excuse to make others look like the bad guy

:doublecolbert: :<3:

Huckleberry Quin
09-19-2012, 09:19 PM
People who write Z's like 3's should also be slaughtered.

Old Manus
09-19-2012, 09:25 PM
Also, I had hoped that this thread was going to be about visits to Wales (albeit badly spelt), and am sorely disappointed.

Mercen-X
09-19-2012, 11:21 PM
No. I hated my teachers who did this. I've been taught one way to write. Why the hell are you writing differently?

I dot my i's and cross my t's and A's and F's and f's and E's and e's and G's and H's and line-cap my T's and I's and J's sometimes and underline my L's.

Pike
09-20-2012, 01:29 AM
I do not cross my sevens or zees.

I will occasionally cross my zeros and also add the top and base to a one if I feel there is a potential for confusion, otherwise I don't bother with those, either.

Edit: For some reason I will add the top and base to a capital I at the beginning of a word but not in the middle of a word.

Sephex
09-20-2012, 01:42 AM
I just had this weird memory where someone at my elementary school saying you have to write sevens with an extra line pointing down from the top to be considered an adult. I still don't get the logic behind that, even for a kid.

Jinx
09-20-2012, 01:47 AM
I just had this weird memory where someone at my elementary school said you have to write sevens with an extra line pointing down from the top to be considered an adult. I still don't get the logic behind that, even for a kid.

Now, I do think, THAT'S retarded.

Ace Protorney
09-20-2012, 01:53 AM
If I'm working with both letters and numbers, I cross my zeros as to not confuse them with my Os.

NorthernChaosGod
09-20-2012, 02:27 AM
I cross my 7s and Zs regularly. I will cross my 0s from time to time to differentiate it from the letter O or when writing in tips. I also add the top and bottom to the 1 when I feel I need to be clearer.

Christmas
09-20-2012, 02:29 AM
I cross dress.

Mercen-X
09-20-2012, 02:35 AM
Old Anus loses.

Mirage
09-20-2012, 02:59 AM
I do it if I end up writing 7s that looks a lot like 1s, or 1s that look a lot like my 7s. If that is not the case, I do not cross them.

Additionally, my 4s are always open, and 5s are written with "short vertical line, three quarter circle, then horizontal line at the top last". I used to write 5s with one single continuous line when I was a kid, but this feels much cooler.

I Took the Red Pill
09-20-2012, 03:58 AM
I do both. Though I did neither before I took Complex Analysis in college. There are so many 2's and so many z's, often in the same formulae, that it becomes essential. Eventually I started crossing my 7's; perhaps because a 7 is just 2/3 of a Z.

Miss Lady Shelly
09-20-2012, 07:19 AM
I do this as well as having a bad habit of making x's with a line connecting the two right cornners

Loony BoB
09-20-2012, 01:54 PM
I cross my 7s and my Zs. Like sharky, I also write my 4s closed <-----like you see there

The thing about crossing your zeros--they should only be crossed when zero is the only number. Example: You should not cross your zeros in the number 600. You should cross your zero for $0 (if you were counting a drawer or something.) The reason that line is there is that so someone can't add a number before it, and fraud money (turning 0 into 70 or something.) So you know that zero is the true answer.
Some serial numbers have 0's and O's. Some people write their 6's very similar to the 0's and it can get confusing. There are often good reasons for people to cross their 0's. I do it for serial numbers, personally.

See also: I, 1 and 7 in the same serial number. Urrrrgh. Hate that.

Beowulf
09-20-2012, 02:21 PM
That's a great point, BoB. When I was working for Samsung, it was a pain in the ass having customers try and read their serial numbers to me. "Is that a 5 or an S? A B or an 8?" Oi....Maybe Samsung should cross numbers on their serial numbers....or make the bloody thing bigger...

Jiro
09-20-2012, 03:25 PM
There is simply no need. Even with my chicken scrawl I manage to make sure my numbers and letters are not so similar they become interchangeable. How often do you fuckers use all of those letters/numbers in a single string of characters anyway? Fuck me you're just being pretentious with your fancy fucking handwriting rah rah rah :aimmad:

Loony BoB
09-20-2012, 04:04 PM
How often do you smurfers use all of those letters/numbers in a single string of characters anyway?
Pretty much every day I'm at work.

Christmas
09-20-2012, 04:14 PM
Did you use EoFF more or those numbers more at work?

Slothy
09-20-2012, 04:47 PM
Fuck me you're just being pretentious with your fancy fucking handwriting rah rah rah :aimmad:

That's the problem though Jiro: if their handwriting were so fancy, they wouldn't need to cross letters and numbers that weren't meant to be crossed to make them legible. Learn to write properly you heathens.

Loony BoB
09-20-2012, 05:03 PM
My writing is just fine, it's just that some people are terrible at reading. ;)

Did you use EoFF more or those numbers more at work?
Depends on the day, really!

Formalhaut
09-20-2012, 08:48 PM
I don't. Just seems like extra effort.

Goldenboko
09-20-2012, 08:52 PM
There is simply no need. Even with my chicken scrawl I manage to make sure my numbers and letters are not so similar they become interchangeable. How often do you smurfers use all of those letters/numbers in a single string of characters anyway? smurf me you're just being pretentious with your fancy smurfing handwriting rah rah rah :aimmad:

Maybe being a Journalist you don't, but being a Software Engineer, I certainly do.

Shawn R
09-20-2012, 09:13 PM
This is a slang term for what?

Rantz
09-20-2012, 09:39 PM
I cross my 7s. Chicks love it.

Jiro
09-21-2012, 12:23 AM
Maybe being a Journalist you don't, but being a Software Engineer, I certainly do.
How often do you write out your code :confused:

Goldenboko
09-21-2012, 05:09 AM
Maybe being a Journalist you don't, but being a Software Engineer, I certainly do.
How often do you write out your code :confused:

A lot. I don't sit around and code all day, I'm normally skimming through a lot of already made code looking for possible causes of defects, which includes a lot of writing jists of lines of code with line numbers.

drotato
09-21-2012, 05:27 AM
Maybe when I was seven. HAH.


... Okay, that wasn't funny like I thought it would be.

Jowy
09-21-2012, 06:40 AM
I had a problem half-assing my "8"s when I was that age.

Jiro
09-21-2012, 07:13 AM
Maybe being a Journalist you don't, but being a Software Engineer, I certainly do.
How often do you write out your code :confused:

A lot. I don't sit around and code all day, I'm normally skimming through a lot of already made code looking for possible causes of defects, which includes a lot of writing jists of lines of code with line numbers.
Makes sense I guess. Still can't help but feel it's weird and unnecessary. You can show my stuff from 5-10 years ago and I can read it perfectly, regardless. All about having distinctive writing I guess.

Araciel
09-21-2012, 07:18 AM
I couldn't lower-case cursive F when I was a kid...my teacher thought I was headed for special ed because of it...

ugh I'm so glad hand-writing is pointless now.

Arizona Lively
09-21-2012, 09:25 PM
I thought this thread was about some kind of military speak. "Watch your six!"