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[M] Harry - Dad's Dad
11-17-2012, 10:38 PM
Well kiddies, we have about 1hr left.


Serah;3166593']This is how it will work. Vote for me. Confirm two roles. Kill Quistis, confirm nothing. Kill me.

That's logical. :/

##Vote Serah

[M] Joe - Army Dad
11-17-2012, 10:39 PM
Good point, Yuffie.

As for my vote, it will go to the retarded townie/scum who used an overpower role like a gladiator, 1 freaking hour before the end of the day, on a day with 4 times as many townies as scum. You are the worst townie ever, or a scapegoat scum for a quick kill.

Either way, I don't want to kill Serah because of you. Serah will most likely lose this, but the retardedness is beyond imagining.

##vote: Quistis

[M] Felix
11-17-2012, 10:40 PM
Time out. Everyone stop. What is majority? Stop voting for me until we know what that is.

[M] Anise
11-17-2012, 10:41 PM
13. or twelve or something.

Stilz, come in stiltz. Got anything to say?

[M] Al - Biker Dad
11-17-2012, 10:41 PM
This is cruel. :p Sorry Serah.

##unvote: Leila
##vote: Serah

[M] Trevor - Gay Dad
11-17-2012, 10:41 PM
##Vote: Quistis

If there's a challenge I'm going for Quistis, I agree with Kain, and Serah is one of the people I'm pegging as a townie, Quistis I'm not even sure if this claim is true or some sort of non-town role.

[M] Joe - Army Dad
11-17-2012, 10:42 PM
Also, even if Serah is scum, that doesn't prove whether Quistis is townie or not. This came out of freaking nowhere. You know what, the possibility comes to mind that Serah IS scum, and that this is their way of getting a mafia member "confirmed" as townie.

God.. out of freaking NOWHERE.

[M] Trevor - Gay Dad
11-17-2012, 10:42 PM
Serah;3166609']Time out. Everyone stop. What is majority? Stop voting for me until we know what that is.

I believe majority is 12 at the moment.

[M] Al - Biker Dad
11-17-2012, 10:42 PM
Crap, sorry about that. Didn't see your post. I hope there's no majority yet!

[M] Felix
11-17-2012, 10:43 PM
We are at 5 on me. No one allow the majority to be reached it will destroy us all. I'm going to calculate the number of hours left.

[M] Trevor - Gay Dad
11-17-2012, 10:44 PM
Serah;3166618']We are at 5 on me. No one allow the majority to be reached it will destroy us all. I'm going to calculate the number of hours left.

If I'm right the day will end in about 50 minutes or so.

[M] Caprica
11-17-2012, 10:44 PM
I find it curious Serah does not want to put up a fight. I can accept Quistis as mafia. I can accept Serah as mafia. Both? Why the challenge when both were in the clear?

[M] Kurt - Cool Dad
11-17-2012, 10:45 PM
Fuck you guys, I agree. This is ridiculous. Quistis thatw as just lame for the end of day 2. coudl have done that at the beginning but no!

##vote: Quistis

I'd rather have to make my own choice than funnelled like a sheep I'M NOT A SHEEPLES!

[M] Harry - Dad's Dad
11-17-2012, 10:45 PM
Yuffie;3166620']I find it curious Serah does not want to put up a fight. I can accept Quistis as mafia. I can accept Serah as mafia. Both? Why the challenge when both were in the clear?

Especially this early in the game...

[M] Felix
11-17-2012, 10:45 PM
Someone please confirm the number of votes on me.

[M] Walter - Smart Dad
11-17-2012, 10:47 PM
Oh god, what the hell is going on? Quistis is challenging Serah?! And now we have to pick between the two!?

Well... since Serah insists we vote for her...

##Unvote: Galuf
##Vote: Serah

[M] Felix
11-17-2012, 10:48 PM
Ok, ok good, we until 8:33AM according to whatever timezone this was set to. It's 7:47. I believe I am leading correct?

[M] Joe - Army Dad
11-17-2012, 10:48 PM
#votes Sarah: 6
#votes Quistis: 3

[M] Joe - Army Dad
11-17-2012, 10:49 PM
At least don't vote for yourself, Sarah. Jeesh.

[M] Caprica
11-17-2012, 10:49 PM
Please, people, don't unvote your previous votes. If Quistis is blowing smoke up our asses, I'd rather see our original votes have impact than being tricked into voting for one or the other.

Stiltzkin here would be a boon.

[M] Caprica
11-17-2012, 10:50 PM
Serah cannot vote for herself unless she does not vote. It becomes a selfvote.

[M] Felix
11-17-2012, 10:50 PM
Kain;3166630']At least don't vote for yourself, Sarah. Jeesh.

Don't worry. I am the hero this town needed. I just deserved better.

[M] Felix
11-17-2012, 10:50 PM
BITCH I CAN VOTE FOR WHOEVER I WANT. IF I WANT TO VOTE FOR MYSELF I WILL DO SO.

[M] Caprica
11-17-2012, 10:51 PM
Who the hell was close to a lynch before this travesty? Refia?

[M] Caprica
11-17-2012, 10:51 PM
Still not getting a role from you, huh?

[M] Trevor - Gay Dad
11-17-2012, 10:51 PM
Yuffie;3166631']Stiltzkin here would be a boon.

Ya things are a bit chaotic, so some mod help would be helpful right about now, this close to the end. :eep:

[M] Anise
11-17-2012, 10:51 PM
Yuffie;3166636']Who the hell was close to a lynch before this travesty? Refia?


I think she was at like 4.

I have no idea what is even going on now.

[M] Caprica
11-17-2012, 10:51 PM
IF ONLY THERE WERE A GOVERNOR

[M] Harry - Dad's Dad
11-17-2012, 10:51 PM
Yuffie;3166636']Who the hell was close to a lynch before this travesty? Refia?

And Balthier. It was close if not tied.

[M] Walter - Smart Dad
11-17-2012, 10:52 PM
Yuffie;3166636']Who the hell was close to a lynch before this travesty? Refia?

I guess? I wasn't paying attention.

[M] Felix
11-17-2012, 10:52 PM
When you all strike me down I will come back more powerful then you can imagine.

[M] Trevor - Gay Dad
11-17-2012, 10:52 PM
Yuffie;3166636']Who the hell was close to a lynch before this travesty? Refia?

Sadly I was up by 1 I think. I'd like to know if this challenge is valid, or if I should defend myself or not.

[M] Felix
11-17-2012, 10:52 PM
It was Refia and Balthier.

[M] Harry - Dad's Dad
11-17-2012, 10:53 PM
Serah;3166643']When you all strike me down I will come back more powerful then you can imagine.

This concerns me. Are you a zombie?

[M] Caprica
11-17-2012, 10:53 PM
The way I see it, when people unvote they might be falling for a mafia trap this close to the end of the day. Stiltzkin will show up, but when? At the end of the day and then who can change their votes?

[M] Felix
11-17-2012, 10:54 PM
Yuffie;3166647']The way I see it, when people unvote they might be falling for a mafia trap this close to the end of the day. Stiltzkin will show up, but when? At the end of the day and then who can change their votes?

Then you'd strike her down tomorrow. You'd strike her down.

[M] Dee
11-17-2012, 10:55 PM
DO NOT FALL INTO THE TRAP OF THE DASTARDLY SERAH FARRON. I AM THE EMPIRE'S TRUE HERO!

[M] Greg - Hot Dad
11-17-2012, 10:56 PM
you're both dorks :)

[M] Dee
11-17-2012, 10:56 PM
I WISH EMPEROR STILTZKIN WOULD APPEAR AND END THE MYSTERY.

[M] Felix
11-17-2012, 10:56 PM
Quistis;3166650']DO NOT FALL INTO THE TRAP OF THE DASTARDLY SERAH FARRON. I AM THE EMPIRE'S TRUE HERO!

I <3 you. I really do. We've saved Wedge. Good job.

[M] Joe - Army Dad
11-17-2012, 10:57 PM
TALLY (in case Quistis is a douche)
Blank (2) - Yuffie, Refia, Noctis, Leila, Noctis
Yuffie (1) - Blank, Leila, Faris, Wakka, Quistis
Galuf (1) - Kain, Rydia, Faris, Selfvote
Penelo (0) - Refia, Selfvote
Leila (0) - Blank, Setzer
Cid (1) - Rydia, Selfvote
Rydia (1) - Leon, Serah, Faris
Faris (1) - Noctis, Quina, Serah, Rydia
Serah (4) - Wedge, Serah, Setzer, Galuf
Wedge (0) - Rydia, Kain
Wakka (2) - Refia, Serah, Kain, Selfvote
Refia (2) - Blank, Quina, Yuffie
Quistis (0) - Refia
Balthier (2) - Quina, Selfvote, Serah[/QUOTE]

Shes leading in the original ones as well.

[M] Felix
11-17-2012, 10:57 PM
Noctis;3166651']you're both dorks :)

ARE YOU NOT ENTERTAINED?

[M] Dee
11-17-2012, 10:57 PM
WEDGE WILL FALL BY DEMOCRACY. HOWEVER, NOW IS NOT THE TIME FOR DEMOCRACY. NOW IS THE TIME OF VIOLENCE AND BLOODSHED.

[M] Greg - Hot Dad
11-17-2012, 10:58 PM
Serah;3166655']
Noctis;3166651']you're both dorks :)

ARE YOU NOT ENTERTAINED?I am not. Boo!

[M] Felix
11-17-2012, 10:58 PM
Quistis;3166657']WEDGE WILL FALL BY DEMOCRACY. HOWEVER, NOW IS NOT THE TIME FOR DEMOCRACY. NOW IS THE TIME OF VIOLENCE AND BLOODSHED.

YES! WIN THE MOB OVER! THEY RULE ROME!

[M] Dee
11-17-2012, 10:58 PM
HOW LONG UNTIL A VICTOR IS DECLAIRED!?

[M] Felix
11-17-2012, 10:59 PM
35 minutes.

[M] Dee
11-17-2012, 10:59 PM
Serah;3166660']
Quistis;3166657']WEDGE WILL FALL BY DEMOCRACY. HOWEVER, NOW IS NOT THE TIME FOR DEMOCRACY. NOW IS THE TIME OF VIOLENCE AND BLOODSHED.

YES! WIN THE MOB OVER! THEY RULE ROME!
ROME HAS NOT YET FALLEN. THE PEOPLE STILL LIVE TO RULE IT.

[M] Trevor - Gay Dad
11-17-2012, 10:59 PM
Quistis;3166661']HOW LONG UNTIL A VICTOR IS DECLAIRED!?

By my calculations the day ends in a little over 30 minutes.

[M] Anise
11-17-2012, 10:59 PM
Quistis;3166661']ECLAIRED!?


That's the only part of your post I saw.

[M] Harry - Dad's Dad
11-17-2012, 10:59 PM
Kain;3166654']TALLY (in case Quistis is a douche)
Blank (2) - Yuffie, Refia, Noctis, Leila, Noctis
Yuffie (1) - Blank, Leila, Faris, Wakka, Quistis
Galuf (1) - Kain, Rydia, Faris, Selfvote
Penelo (0) - Refia, Selfvote
Leila (0) - Blank, Setzer
Cid (1) - Rydia, Selfvote
Rydia (1) - Leon, Serah, Faris
Faris (1) - Noctis, Quina, Serah, Rydia
Serah (4) - Wedge, Serah, Setzer, Galuf
Wedge (0) - Rydia, Kain
Wakka (2) - Refia, Serah, Kain, Selfvote
Refia (2) - Blank, Quina, Yuffie
Quistis (0) - Refia
Balthier (2) - Quina, Selfvote, Serah

Shes leading in the original ones as well.[/QUOTE]

Balthier and Refia should have 3 or 4 votes.

[M] Al - Biker Dad
11-17-2012, 10:59 PM
What is actually going on. I have lost the plot.

[M] Dee
11-17-2012, 10:59 PM
THEY LET US CONTINUE TO BATTLE, SERAH. LET US SEE WHOM THE GOD FAVOR.

[M] Felix
11-17-2012, 11:00 PM
Quistis;3166663']
Serah;3166660']
Quistis;3166657']WEDGE WILL FALL BY DEMOCRACY. HOWEVER, NOW IS NOT THE TIME FOR DEMOCRACY. NOW IS THE TIME OF VIOLENCE AND BLOODSHED.

YES! WIN THE MOB OVER! THEY RULE ROME!
ROME HAS NOT YET FALLEN. THE PEOPLE STILL LIVE TO RULE IT.

We once believed in something... it was called Rome.

[M] Dee
11-17-2012, 11:00 PM
Wakka;3166665']
Quistis;3166661']ECLAIRED!?


That's the only part of your post I saw.
THE LIFE OF A WARRIOR AFFORD NO ROOM FOR SUCH TREATS.

[M] Kurt - Cool Dad
11-17-2012, 11:01 PM
It ends in 30 mins that is if stilzkin wakes up....

[M] Joe - Army Dad
11-17-2012, 11:01 PM
I can't keep up with the tally. I'll look over it again.

[M] Anise
11-17-2012, 11:01 PM
He said to stop posting when time is up if he isn't here right?

[M] Harry - Dad's Dad
11-17-2012, 11:01 PM
Balthier;3166673']It ends in 30 mins that is if stilzkin wakes up....

He cuts off right at the time either way.

[M] Dee
11-17-2012, 11:02 PM
I've seen much of the rest of the world. It is brutal and cruel and dark, Rome is the light.

LET ROME REMAIN THAT LIGHT. DESTROY THE TRAITOR TO THE EMPIRE.

[M] Felix
11-17-2012, 11:04 PM
Quistis;3166677']I've seen much of the rest of the world. It is brutal and cruel and dark, Rome is the light.

LET ROME REMAIN THAT LIGHT. DESTROY THE TRAITOR TO THE EMPIRE.

Quistis, we are both so loyal. A travesty this is.

[M] Dee
11-17-2012, 11:04 PM
YOUR LOYALTY IS BUT A GUISE. A SNAKE COVERED IN A DOG'S FUR.

[M] Al - Biker Dad
11-17-2012, 11:05 PM
You are indeed. Godspeed, you brave warriors! *salute*

[M] Dee
11-17-2012, 11:06 PM
ONE OF US IS NOT WHO SHE SEEMS.

[M] Felix
11-17-2012, 11:07 PM
Quistis;3166679']YOUR LOYALTY IS BUT A GUISE. A SNAKE COVERED IN A DOG'S FUR.

Your intentions are true, but your wisdom is lacking.

[M] Joe - Army Dad
11-17-2012, 11:07 PM
TALLY
Blank (0) - Yuffie, Refia, Noctis, Leila
Yuffie (1) - Blank, Leila, Faris, Wakka, Quistis
Galuf (1) - Kain, Rydia, Faris, Selfvote
Penelo (1) - Refia, Selfvote
Leila (0) - Blank
Cid (1) - Rydia, Selfvote
Rydia (1) - Leon, Serah, Faris
Faris (2) - Noctis, Quina, Serah, Rydia
Serah (4) - Wedge, SELFVOTE, Setzer, Faris
Wedge (0) - Rydia, Kain
Wakka (2) - Refia, Serah, Kain, Selfvote
Refia (4) - Blank, Quina, Yuffie, Balthier, Leila
Quistis (1) - Refia
Balthier (2) - Quina, Serah, Refia


Tally revised. I think this is correct since the last time Yuffie posted it. Anywho, Refia and Serah are in a tie.

[M] Dee
11-17-2012, 11:07 PM
Serah;3166682']
Quistis;3166679']YOUR LOYALTY IS BUT A GUISE. A SNAKE COVERED IN A DOG'S FUR.

Your intentions are true, but your wisdom is lacking.
WE SHALL SEE. EVEN IF I MUST FALL I DO NOT WISH TO LIVE IN A DIVIDED ROME.

[M] Athena
11-17-2012, 11:08 PM
Is it you? :kaodizzy:

[M] Joe - Army Dad
11-17-2012, 11:08 PM
Also, I did not count votes WITHOUT an unvote since the declaration of Quistis.

[M] Dave Stepdad
11-17-2012, 11:09 PM
What kind of lyncher/lynchee scenario is this?

[M] Dee
11-17-2012, 11:10 PM
THIS IS NO LYNCHER-LYNCHEE SCENARIO. THIS IS COMBAT BETWEEN TWO WOMEN.

[M] Felix
11-17-2012, 11:11 PM
Quistis;3166689']THIS IS NO LYNCHER-LYNCHEE SCENARIO. THIS IS COMBAT BETWEEN TWO WOMEN.

Combat. Why not love ;)

[M] Joe - Army Dad
11-17-2012, 11:12 PM
Google it Wedge, but this whole thing just reeks of scum, scapegoats, and bad trust.

[M] Felix
11-17-2012, 11:12 PM
Kain;3166693']Google it Wedge, but this whole thing just reeks of scum, scapegoats, and bad trust.

Have faith in me Kain. I would never sacrifice myself in vain.

[M] Greg - Hot Dad
11-17-2012, 11:12 PM
Wedge;3166688']What kind of lyncher/lynchee scenario is this?The veil slips. Haha. Hello Wedge.

[M] Harry - Dad's Dad
11-17-2012, 11:13 PM
Wait wait wait. Quistis. If that is your real role, how many times can you enforce it?

[M] Dee
11-17-2012, 11:14 PM
IT IS A ONE-TIME ROLE. I AM ONLY USE IT ONCE FOR A GLADIATOR HAS BUT ONE LIFE TO LIVE.

[M] Anise
11-17-2012, 11:14 PM
I imagine somewhere very far away an australian is laughing his head off at us.

[M] Mike - Funny Dad
11-17-2012, 11:15 PM
Dropping votes to jump on Quistis or Serah becomes a fool's game if either Quisty is lying or a roleblocker comes into play.

This stinks to me of an attempt by the mafia to keep us reacting to them instead of them reacting us.

[M] Dee
11-17-2012, 11:15 PM
WHERE IS AUSTRALIA? IS IT A COLONY OF THE GREAT ROME?

[M] Felix
11-17-2012, 11:16 PM
Don't worry all. Just vote for me. It will be ok.

[M] Harry - Dad's Dad
11-17-2012, 11:17 PM
Rydia;3166701']Dropping votes to jump on Quistis or Serah becomes a fool's game if either Quisty is lying or a roleblocker comes into play.

This stinks to me of an attempt by the mafia to keep us reacting to them instead of them reacting us.

I forget who said it earlier, but if this role is crap and Serah dies Quistis is definitely next.

[M] Joe - Army Dad
11-17-2012, 11:18 PM
I think something to keep in mind is what happened before Quistis started this: We were all ganging up on Balthier. I don't know whether this is a coincident, but I'm going to keep it in mind if Serah flips scum. After that, I say lynch Quistis just to be sure they weren't trying to gain trust by sacrifice, and then take a good hard look at Balthier, that started all this

[M] Dee
11-17-2012, 11:19 PM
IT IS NOT CRAP. IT IS A SERIOUS BATTLE OF LIFE OR DEATH.

[M] Dee
11-17-2012, 11:19 PM
Kain;3166708']I think something to keep in mind is what happened before Quistis started this: We were all ganging up on Balthier. I don't know whether this is a coincident, but I'm going to keep it in mind if Serah flips scum.

I HAVE NO ALLEGIANCE TO THAT BEAUTIFUL, BEAUTIFUL, MAN. MY ALLEGIANCE IS TO THE PEOPLE OF ROME.

[M] Felix
11-17-2012, 11:20 PM
Kain;3166708']I think something to keep in mind is what happened before Quistis started this: We were all ganging up on Balthier. I don't know whether this is a coincident, but I'm going to keep it in mind if Serah flips scum.

No Kain. Balthier was not in the lead Refia was. Balthier is innocent, my attacks on him was to bait all of you. You've played your parts wonderfully. Especially you Quistis.

[M] Anise
11-17-2012, 11:20 PM
Gladiator - MafiaWiki (http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Gladiator)

makes sense I suppose.

[M] Dee
11-17-2012, 11:20 PM
Serah;3166712']
Kain;3166708']I think something to keep in mind is what happened before Quistis started this: We were all ganging up on Balthier. I don't know whether this is a coincident, but I'm going to keep it in mind if Serah flips scum.

No Kain. Balthier was not in the lead Refia was. Balthier is innocent, my attacks on him was to bait all of you. You've played your parts wonderfully. Especially you Quistis.
FOOLISH. HOW WOULD SOMEONE EVER PREPARE FOR SUCH AN UNEXPECTED CIRCUMSTANCE?

[M] Joe - Army Dad
11-17-2012, 11:21 PM
Serah;3166712']
Kain;3166708']I think something to keep in mind is what happened before Quistis started this: We were all ganging up on Balthier. I don't know whether this is a coincident, but I'm going to keep it in mind if Serah flips scum.
Serah;3166712']

No Kain. Balthier was not in the lead Refia was. Balthier is innocent, my attacks on him was to bait all of you. You've played your parts wonderfully. Especially you Quistis.

This is true. And if you flip town I will keep it in mind. If you flip scum however, this does not really mean much.

[M] Felix
11-17-2012, 11:21 PM
Quistis;3166714']
Serah;3166712']
Kain;3166708']I think something to keep in mind is what happened before Quistis started this: We were all ganging up on Balthier. I don't know whether this is a coincident, but I'm going to keep it in mind if Serah flips scum.

No Kain. Balthier was not in the lead Refia was. Balthier is innocent, my attacks on him was to bait all of you. You've played your parts wonderfully. Especially you Quistis.
FOOLISH. HOW WOULD SOMEONE EVER PREPARE FOR SUCH AN UNEXPECTED CIRCUMSTANCE?

Serah. Sees all.

[M] Dee
11-17-2012, 11:22 PM
SERAH SEES NOTHING BUT THE TREASON AGAINST THE PEOPLE OF ROME.

[M] Mike - Funny Dad
11-17-2012, 11:22 PM
I have it! 'tis engendered! Hell and night must see this monstrous birth to the world's light!

[M] Felix
11-17-2012, 11:25 PM
My time is soon at hand. Remember me. Remember who. you. areeeeeee.

[M] Dee
11-17-2012, 11:25 PM
EIGHT MINUTES UNTIL A WINNER IS DECLARED, AM I CORRECT?

[M] Felix
11-17-2012, 11:26 PM
Strength and honor town.

[M] Dee
11-17-2012, 11:26 PM
SILENCE. YOU WILL SOON BE DEAD, VILLAIN.

[M] Anise
11-17-2012, 11:26 PM
If they aren't lyncher and lynchee I have no idea what the heck this is supposed to be.

[M] Trevor - Gay Dad
11-17-2012, 11:28 PM
Wakka;3166724']If they aren't lyncher and lynchee I have no idea what the heck this is supposed to be.

Lyncher/lynchee I couldn't quite see in a game this large.

[M] Dee
11-17-2012, 11:28 PM
FIVE MINUTES UNTIL ROME IS FREE FROM THIS VILLAIN'S TREASON.

[M] Greg - Hot Dad
11-17-2012, 11:28 PM
Yuffie;3166640']IF ONLY THERE WERE A GOVERNOR

[M] Anise
11-17-2012, 11:29 PM
Refia;3166725']
Wakka;3166724']If they aren't lyncher and lynchee I have no idea what the heck this is supposed to be.

Lyncher/lynchee I couldn't quite see in a game this large.


I know, but it's all I could think of.

[M] Felix
11-17-2012, 11:29 PM
Well all, it's been fun. A lot of fun. But it is time for me to leave you a-

JUST smurfING KIDDING! ##stoplynch

YOU THINK THAT'S ALL I GOT MOB? YOU THINK THAT'S IT. smurfING TRY TO KILL ME. I'VE PLAYED YOU LIKE A FIDDLE - AND KILLING ME OHO! THAT WOULD BE THE GREATEST REWARD! Town, I should be seeing you tomorrow, I do not think I should be able to fall tonight, but if I am wrong, remember Quistis is not cleared. A scum gladiator would be devious.

Good night all. I'll see you all tomorrow morning!

[M] Mom Host
11-18-2012, 11:52 AM
Yesterday was a bit of a mess. I was busy, kupo, and that is something I regret. Some housekeeping before things continue:

Calling any player an idiot is strictly unacceptable, kupo. That is not tolerated by the Forums Staff and it is even less acceptable in my mafia! :mog: Please keep your insults in check - use softer words if you must attack a player's strategy or style - and remember that members have been banned for misconduct during Mafia in the past.

Secondly, Goldenboko was under strict instructions to end the day phase when time was up. I knew it would be at least an hour or two before I was able to check in on things. I had not anticipated quite the events that unfolded though, kupo! You all did me proud by following Quistis whose roleclaim was not validated by my own posts. I'm proud of you for being sensible.

To make up for my absence, here is a summary of how things unfolded vote-wise yesterday:
Pre-Gladiator Challenge

[M] Faris (3) - Noctis, Quina, Serah, Rydia
[M] Refia (3) - Blank, Quina, Yuffie, Balthier
[M] Blank (2) - Yuffie, Refia, Noctis, Leila, Leila, Noctis
[M] Yuffie (1) - Blank, Faris, Wakka, Quistis
[M] Galuf (1) - Kain[s], [s]Rydia, Faris
[M] Leila (1) - Blank, Setzer
[M] Rydia (1) - Leon, Serah, Faris
[M] Serah (1) - Wedge
[M] Wakka (1) - Refia, Serah, Kain
[M] Quistis (1) - Refia
[M] Balthier (1) - Quina
[M] Cid (0) - Rydia
[M] Penelo (0) - Refia
[M] Wedge (0) - Rydia, Kain

* Note: Leila tried to place a vote of Refia, but failed to unvote.

Post-Gladiator Challenge

[M] Quistis (3) - Refia, Kain, Balthier
[M] Serah (6) - Quistis, Wedge, Yuffie, Wakka, Leila, Faris

* Note: Serah tried to place an illegal vote on Refia
* Note: Refia tried to place an illegal vote on Balthier
* Note: Serah tried to place an illegal vote on herself
* Note: Refia tried to re-vote for Quistis. Previous vote stands.


Let us continue with today by locking hands and singing a hymn for our fallen.

[M] Quistis was a Gladiator played by Laddy. Singlehandedly prompted one of the most entertaining Day 2s I have ever seen. Good one, dude! :up:

[M] Serah was a Governor played by Goldenboko. His ploy to confirm two townies almost worked spectacularly. Also had a brother's back. That's five gallons worth, right there.

[M] Kain was a Bus Driver played by Aerith's Knight. I think we can all see that a Bus Driver is an excellent role for a mindsmurf mafia. Nice job, AK. It's just like the Apocalypse Party party bus all over again.

[M] Quina was a Beloved Princess played by Red Mage Coffman and replaced by Del Murder for Day 2. You killed the man twice. Does that make Psychotic worth twice as many of him now? I don't know, but I know that I am as sad to see him exit again so quickly as you will all be.

Because with Quina's death, you are all too sad to have a Day 3. Night 3 begins now. You have 18 hours to send your night actions to me, kupo! :mog:

[M] Mom Host
11-19-2012, 04:59 AM
The people were still mourning the loss of their beloved Quina, but this morning they had some good news. As they opened their eyes, internally praising their luck at surviving the night, they discovered the body of one of the culprits.

[M] Galuf was a Mafia Poisoner played by shion and sharkythesharkdogg. Thanks for playing, folks!

With 18 accounts left in play, it takes 10 for a majority lynch. 24 hours begins.... now, kupo. :mog:

[M] Anise
11-19-2012, 05:02 AM
Hey one down!

[M] Anise
11-19-2012, 05:11 AM
I know we need to figure out why each person died, but I gotta go to bed. See you in about ten hours bros!

[M] Mike - Funny Dad
11-19-2012, 05:12 AM
It is apparent my previous efforts have been ineffectual, and I have been outed as new to Mafia; it is bootless, perforce, to essay any further attempt at camouflage.

I have been GHF's Kira. Within my breast beats a heart that knows the sweet savour of bloody murder. I am myself indifferent honest, but yet I could accuse me of such things that it were better my mother had not borne me: I am very
proud, revengeful, ambitious, with more offences at my beck than I have thoughts to put them in, imagination to give them shape, or time to act them
in. What should such fellows as I do crawling between earth and heaven?

Thus do I invoke Kagetsu's First Law:

##Vote: Rydia

I bid thee achieve me and then sell my bones!
Come thou no more for ransom, gentle townies:
You shall have none, I swear, but these my joints!

[M] Mike - Funny Dad
11-19-2012, 05:13 AM
Fuck you evernote there are no line breaks there!

[M] D'Anna
11-19-2012, 05:22 AM
When man's heart is full of deciet
It burns up, dies
And a dark shadows falls over his soul.
From the ashes of a once great man, has risen a curse,
A wrong that must be righted,
We look to the skies for a vindicator,
someone to strike fear into the black hearts
of the sane man who created him.
The battle between good, and evil has begun
Against an army of shadows,
lies the dark warrior
The prevailer of good,
With a voice of silence,
And a mission of justice,
This is Biggs.

[M] Mom Host
11-19-2012, 05:25 AM
You, uh, you can't vote for yourself, kupo. But because of your invalid vote, your vote is being counted as a SELFVOTE. Which means, uh, you kind of voted for yourself, kupo.

:mog:

[M] Mike - Funny Dad
11-19-2012, 05:28 AM
Stiltzkin;3167259']You, uh, you can't vote for yourself, kupo. But because of your invalid vote, your vote is being counted as a SELFVOTE. Which means, uh, you kind of voted for yourself, kupo.

:mog:

Dost feel better now?

[M] Walter - Smart Dad
11-19-2012, 05:39 AM
This day certainly escalated quickly.
I also want to point out that I knew something was up with that old man Galuf when I decided to track him down. I wasn't so sure, but now I'm 100% positive that Galuf poisoned Quistis on Night 1, and her death after her sudden showdown with the Governor in Night 2 only shows that it was the poison taking affect.

This is definitely a win for Town though, seeing that the old man has been brought down! See, I told ya I had my eye on you, old man! :cuch:

[M] D'Anna
11-19-2012, 06:02 AM
Faris;3167265']This day certainly escalated quickly.
I also want to point out that I knew something was up with that old man Galuf when I decided to track him down. I wasn't so sure, but now I'm 100% positive that Galuf poisoned Quistis on Night 1, and her death after her sudden showdown with the Governor in Night 2 only shows that it was the poison taking affect.

This is definitely a win for Town though, seeing that the old man has been brought down! See, I told ya I had my eye on you, old man! :cuch:
That covers Quistis. So what about Serah, Kain, and Quina? And how did Galuf die and no one else last night?

So who did you track yesterday?

[M] Ron - Cop Dad
11-19-2012, 06:14 AM
Holy trout, first four townies down and then one mafia down. OK NOW TELL ME GALUF ISN'T AS SKETCH AS ANYONE ELSE YUFFIE >=(

Going to address Noctis's vote against me first. You've been going after me quite strongly apparently. You voted agaist me because you thought I was lying low when no pressure is being laid on me? Haha, I actually am busy. I posted because I had time and wanted to spend it on this game. Do you really think I felt pressured because three votes were on me at a time at the very beginning of day 2 when people were spamming all to hell? I didn't ;)

Now the good thing is we have a lot more to go on based on alignment results and I had a decent amount of time to read through the thread after night 2. I want to talk about a few people:

Noctis. You've been very offensive toward everyone else but no one has really been questioning you.

1. You seem like a smart player. Why accept Rydia's idea that Cid's post was a roleclaim so easily? It seems very far fetched and you didn't even bring up "maybe that wasn't a roleclaim." You instead said that whether he was mafia or cop, it was a stupid thing to do (post 357).

2. You were all about the idea of going for the people who voted for the top three people on day one. You said that you thought 2 or 3 mafia could be amongst those people on day two. Well, considering that by day 2, 10 of the 16 people that voted did so for the top three. Thanks, Mr. Obvious... "almost 2/3 of the people voted for the top 3 so there must be mafia in there, let's focus on that!" ;)

So what about the people who made the "safe" votes? You're one of the people who have been making safe votes. Voting for Serah one day 1? Convenient to direct attention away by centering on the people who voted for the top 3.

3. Out of the people who voted for the top 3, you decided to focus on those who voted for Galuf. Your reasoning is that there were only 3 people left on day 2 who had voted for Galuf, so one of them is mafia. Umm, okay. However, note that there were only three people left on day two that voted for Quina also. Now what?


Speaking of which, Yuffie was saying the exact same thing all day and following Noctis on this. Does no one bother to check the vote count for themselves, or too busy trying to pin blame? However, the fact that Yuffie so readily adopts Noctis's reasoning makes me think that they're on different teams. Hm.


Refia, hm. She made some contradictions, Quina's post (499) pointed that out. She was around yet not really being productive for most of day. I'd like to hear more from her today.


Also, we do need to pay more attention to inactives. Considering how yesterday went, the people who didn't post were way, way safer. I'm not saying start lynching them now, but do not forget about them.

Rikku. Around in day 1. ONE spammy post at the end of day 2. Come out.

Cid - you are popping in and out. Let's hear some more.

Luneth - one post in day 1 and one post in day 2.

Relm - not really an inactive but I want more opinions.

Uh, I know there's more but I've gotta go back and look.


Oh one more thing, Wakka, please stop telling us that you're going to sleep, going to hang your Christmas tree, going to the bathroom, whatever. :p

[M] Mike - Funny Dad
11-19-2012, 06:15 AM
Biggs;3167267']how did Galuf die and no one else last night?


There is either a Vigilante or Paranoid Gun Owner in play, and the mafia's night kill was roleblocked.

[M] Ron - Cop Dad
11-19-2012, 06:15 AM
Sorry, Cid's post was a role hint, not a roleclaim.

And yes, can we hear from the people who roleclaimed already? Faris, Wedge.

[M] Ron - Cop Dad
11-19-2012, 06:16 AM
*That cid's post was a role hint. xD I'm really absentminded right now.

^ and not that I believe that. Correcting what I said to Noctis earlier.

[M] Walter - Smart Dad
11-19-2012, 06:20 AM
Biggs;3167267']
Faris;3167265']This day certainly escalated quickly.
I also want to point out that I knew something was up with that old man Galuf when I decided to track him down. I wasn't so sure, but now I'm 100% positive that Galuf poisoned Quistis on Night 1, and her death after her sudden showdown with the Governor in Night 2 only shows that it was the poison taking affect.

This is definitely a win for Town though, seeing that the old man has been brought down! See, I told ya I had my eye on you, old man! :cuch:
That covers Quistis. So what about Serah, Kain, and Quina? And how did Galuf die and no one else last night?

So who did you track yesterday?

Sorry, I wouldn't really know how the others died, and I'm quite sure that mafia wouldn't kill one of their own, so I think a third party might have been responsible. This could also explain one of the 4 deaths in Night 2.

I've been tracking Galuf actually since Night 1 if he would strike again. For some reason, I didn't get a result on Night 2, but it turned out I did get one on the night he was killed, surprisingly. He targeted Cid.

[M] Walter - Smart Dad
11-19-2012, 06:24 AM
It is getting rather late here, so I'll go call it a day for me. I'll come back later and hopefully I'll be able to provide a vote. Take it easy fellow townies. We'll find those scums if it means tracking them down!

[M] Harry - Dad's Dad
11-19-2012, 06:30 AM
Oh man, what if we have another crazy day/night where we lose more than one or two people? This is insane! Also, what exactly is the bus driver role?

[M] Ron - Cop Dad
11-19-2012, 06:37 AM
Uhh, does that mean Cid is dying tonight? :o I'm willing to believe Faris for now... Mafia poisoner = the person lives for one more day and then dies, or how does it work?

If so, Cid, do you have any useful info for us today?

[M] Mike - Funny Dad
11-19-2012, 06:42 AM
The poisoner sends his kill orders in on odd numbered nights, and the effect occurs on even numbered nights, that way if he's investigated on the night of a kill, he comes up green. Cid dies tonight unless

a) The Apothecary (whose role is signalled by the presence of a poisoner) both believes Faris and does not die today or tonight, or
b) Faris is lying

[M] Ron - Cop Dad
11-19-2012, 06:54 AM
Wow, if there's an apothecary that changes things. Forget most of what I said. if you exist, yeah protect Cid.

Faris, what I don't get is why would you investigate Galuf again on night 3 when you already investigated him night 2 and got no result? Why not pick someone else?

[M] Ron - Cop Dad
11-19-2012, 07:03 AM
Come to think of it, that does place Faris higher on my radar. I don't think she's lying that Galuf targeted Cid, but if she's mafia with Galuf she would know what his role does and who he targeted, so she could tell the truth. Why not try someone else? What if Galuf's role was a one time role? Or if he was absent night 2, what made you think he would be back on night 3 which was right after night 2? It seems like a waste of a track to keep targeting Galuf.

[M] D'Anna
11-19-2012, 07:08 AM
I have reviewed the activity of Day 1 (the only day Galuf posted). Galuf only made three total posts and placed his vote for me (second vote on me at the time).

The following people voted for Galuf on Day 1: Wakka, Serah, Blank, Laguna. While it is certainly possible for mafia to vote for each other on Day 1, it's a risky strategy with the votes always spread so evenly.


Rydia;3167284']The poisoner sends his kill orders in on odd numbered nights, and the effect occurs on even numbered nights, that way if he's investigated on the night of a kill, he comes up green. Cid dies tonight unless

a) The Apothecary (whose role is signalled by the presence of a poisoner) both believes Faris and does not die today or tonight, or
b) Faris is lying
How do you know such details?

[M] Mike - Funny Dad
11-19-2012, 07:11 AM
Biggs;3167287']
How do you know such details?

I pray thee on the morrow, send a messenger to heaven to make the same enquiry of my shade

If he find me not, seek me in the other place thyself.

[M] D'Anna
11-19-2012, 07:13 AM
No u

[M] Ron - Cop Dad
11-19-2012, 07:13 AM
Rydia, what the heck are you doing :( You may have come out with some pretty far fetched ideas yesterday but your brainstorming helps us to find mafia by seeing other ppls reactions. Be normal please :(

[M] Mike - Funny Dad
11-19-2012, 07:15 AM
Blank;3167290']Rydia, what the heck are you doing :(

See: previous post

[M] Ron - Cop Dad
11-19-2012, 07:18 AM
Yeah, I did. It makes NO SMURFING SENSE.

[M] Mike - Funny Dad
11-19-2012, 07:20 AM
We Taoists love paradox.

[M] Dave Stepdad
11-19-2012, 07:21 AM
I'm under the impression she is saying she will see you in hell

[M] Ron - Cop Dad
11-19-2012, 07:21 AM
-_- I'm confused.

Wedge, tell us your investigation results?

[M] Dave Stepdad
11-19-2012, 07:24 AM
I can't tell you because the person I sent the results to on the second night is dead and the person I sent the results to last night is not here yet.

[M] Ron - Cop Dad
11-19-2012, 07:24 AM
Well, your investigation targets. I guess you wouldn't have results. xD

[M] Ron - Cop Dad
11-19-2012, 07:25 AM
Hm, okay.

[M] Dave Stepdad
11-19-2012, 07:29 AM
Rydia;3167256']It is apparent my previous efforts have been ineffectual, and I have been outed as new to Mafia; it is bootless, perforce, to essay any further attempt at camouflage.

I have been GHF's Kira. Within my breast beats a heart that knows the sweet savour of bloody murder. I am myself indifferent honest, but yet I could accuse me of such things that it were better my mother had not borne me: I am very
proud, revengeful, ambitious, with more offences at my beck than I have thoughts to put them in, imagination to give them shape, or time to act them
in. What should such fellows as I do crawling between earth and heaven?

Thus do I invoke Kagetsu's First Law:

##Vote: Rydia

I bid thee achieve me and then sell my bones!
Come thou no more for ransom, gentle townies:
You shall have none, I swear, but these my joints!

So can you tell me what Kagetsu's First Law is and why you are invoking it? Are you confessing to killing Galuf or someone more innocent?

[M] Mike - Funny Dad
11-19-2012, 07:33 AM
I confess to nothing*, and you do not know what Kagetsu's First Law is because you are not meant to.

*in this game, anyways. I killed a bunch of people once, though.

[M] Dave Stepdad
11-19-2012, 07:34 AM
OK, why the self vote then?

[M] Mike - Funny Dad
11-19-2012, 07:36 AM
I am but mad north-northwest: when the wind is southerly I know a hawk from a handsaw.

[M] Dave Stepdad
11-19-2012, 07:39 AM
But do you know a coo coo from a chopper?

[M] Mike - Funny Dad
11-19-2012, 07:45 AM
Thine attempt at antic disposition, sir, is febrile indeed.

[M] Dave Stepdad
11-19-2012, 07:48 AM
Yeah, spending my life bringing down evil corporations didn't leave a lot of time cultivation

[M] Greg - Hot Dad
11-19-2012, 08:07 AM
Blank;3167273']
1. You seem like a smart player. Why accept Rydia's idea that Cid's post was a roleclaim so easily? It seems very far fetched and you didn't even bring up "maybe that wasn't a roleclaim." You instead said that whether he was mafia or cop, it was a stupid thing to do (post 357).I didn't accept it. At what point did I say "I believe this". I didn't say "I don't believe this" therefore I was a religious Cid Roleclaim zealot? Oh dear. This is a very scummy argument Blank and a poor attempt to put words into my mouth.

2. You were all about the idea of going for the people who voted for the top three people on day one. You said that you thought 2 or 3 mafia could be amongst those people on day two. Well, considering that by day 2, 10 of the 16 people that voted did so for the top three. Thanks, Mr. Obvious... "almost 2/3 of the people voted for the top 3 so there must be mafia in there, let's focus on that!" ;) You said no-one is questioning me. Is this a question? Oh no, how dare you post who you suspect is mafia! Robble robble robble. Incidentally, you happen to be among these people so... I guess... I did what I SAID I would? DING DONG DING DONG NAUGHTY NOCTIS
So what about the people who made the "safe" votes? You're one of the people who have been making safe votes. Voting for Serah one day 1? Convenient to direct attention away by centering on the people who voted for the top 3.yawwwn. You are saying I shouldn't try to focus on people who I think might be mafia and widen my field to include everyone again? Well of course. That's what the mafia would like me to do. Why do you want me to do what the mafia would like me to do?


3. Out of the people who voted for the top 3, you decided to focus on those who voted for Galuf. Your reasoning is that there were only 3 people left on day 2 who had voted for Galuf, so one of them is mafia. Umm, okay. However, note that there were only three people left on day two that voted for Quina also. Now what?This is all gibberish. I'll answer your question though. Now what? Now you go.

Time to strike back.
Quina;3166754']But there was still 4 minutes left and I signed on just to make an important and game-changing post. WHAT COULD THIS GAME CHANGING POST BEEN ABOUT

Quina;3166349']Blank also made an interesting post which I leave to the player to discover. It is still too early to do my aHA! reveal post which we all love.Blank. Poor old Quina was silenced before he could reveal the truth.









Quina]Also Nonstick makes a good point about Blank disappearing after the heat was taken off. He was on my radar but it would be unfair to the poor guy for both of us to gang up on him.Goldenboko tried to snark this post because he doesn't realise you don't always need an essay to know someone is dodgy. Del agreed with me. Look at him, airy-fairying around like it aint no thang. The content of the posts doesn't show worry... the volume of them sure as fuck do.

And now dear Blank comes out on the offensive. Why, that's a complete departure from your actions on the first two days! I do love a good inconsistency! What's the matter, sweetie? You running scared now your boy Galuf's out of the frame? Better go on the attack to deflect attention?


Get lynched, Blank.

By the way... your utterly poor case or whatever the fuck that was meant to be against me... that was just to say "Oh Psy said he'd accuse anyone who accused him! He has no real reason for voting for me!!!!" wasn't it? Oh dear. Pre-empted your little retort there so you can't use that.

##vote: Blank

[M] D'Anna
11-19-2012, 08:15 AM
The thing is, why would any mafia start off a day by gunning for you, knowing it would be their death sentence? What possible reason could Blank have for poking the bear?

[M] Ron - Cop Dad
11-19-2012, 08:17 AM
I never said you were a Cid roleclaim zealot. ;) I asked you why you didn't argue it.

By all means keep suspecting people. But your directing attention to just the people who voted for the top 3, and to those who voted for Galuf in particular? Doesn't make sense.

My interesting post? Yes, I'm curious to know too. If Quina found it, surely you can too. Why don't you enlighten me as to what my interesting post is?

[M] Greg - Hot Dad
11-19-2012, 08:19 AM
Blank;3167319']I never said you were a Cid roleclaim zealot. ;) I asked you why you didn't argue it.Why don't you argue every last little point that is raised in the mafia thread?
By all means keep suspecting people. But your directing attention to just the people who voted for the top 3, and to those who voted for Galuf in particular? Doesn't make sense.I'm suspecting you for other reasons now. That was a starting point. I've moved on. It's like saying "Why are you crawling around on the floor and crying?" to someone long after they stopped being a baby. They were my initial thoughts, I've developed them now.
My interesting post? Yes, I'm curious to know too. If Quina found it, surely you can too. Why don't you enlighten me as to what my interesting post is?Because it's funny to make you sweat.

[M] D'Anna
11-19-2012, 08:22 AM
I'll let that matter sit for now, mostly because I'm tired and also because I don't want our big showdown to happen until at least Day 5. In the end it comes down to you and me.

Good luck, Blank.

[M] Ron - Cop Dad
11-19-2012, 08:27 AM
It's not that you didn't argue it. It's that you didn't argue it while addressing it and saying that whether Cid is cop or mafia, it's a stupid thing to do.

I'm not asking why you're suspecting me, although by all means enlighten me of those reasons, too. But I was asking you why you picked top 3 voters and specifically Galuf as a starting point when Quina had the same number of voters on him (not counting his self vote, since he didn't show up).

Haha, I'm not sweating. :p You really think if I were mafia I would kill Quina because he said I made an interesting post? Wouldn't that point fingers right at me? And if I did make such a post, why would Quina be the only person to find it? There's plenty of smart people in the thread. If they wanna look, look. I'm curious, too.

Who are your top contenders today?

[M] Greg - Hot Dad
11-19-2012, 08:27 AM
Biggs;3167318']The thing is, why would any mafia start off a day by gunning for you, knowing it would be their death sentence? What possible reason could Blank have for poking the bear?Because they keep trying to kill me and don't understand why it won't work.

This post right here is going to be shrieked at in the mafia forum. Hee hee hee! HAVE FUN TRYING TO KILL ME SOME MORE, DOUCHEBAGS :cool:

[M] D'Anna
11-19-2012, 08:35 AM
Ok, it's Day 4. So time for me to take over and win this for the town. Here's the agenda:

Day 4 - Lynch Yuffie's mafia ass.
Night 4 - Get killed.
Day 5 - Final showdown with Psychotic.

Why Yuffie? Simple. Poor Galuf only made 3 posts, but apparently that was enough to make best friends with Yuffie:


Yuffie;3165377']
Blank;3165370']I'm sorry about the edit, I didn't know. Really really sorry about the picture, I feel embarassed. :sweat: < trying to find an embarrassed smiley, bugger it. And sorry I've been inactive! I don't have a lot of time today and there's so many new posts, you guys should make a 48 hour day. But I'm done apologizing now and hopefully won't have to anymore!

##vote: Galuf

He was the first person to bandwagon in the game when there were plenty of other inactive to vote for too.A bandwagon vote itself. I like.
Subtle hint that the vote on Galuf was a bad move by Blank. Trying to guilt the heat off your buddy?


Yuffie;3165936']Lame inactive vote on Day 2? You better hope Galuf actually shows up today or you get back and talk.
Another defense of Galuf, this time when Kain voted for him.


Yuffie;3165974']
Rydia;3165972']The mafia would want an innocent to get and maintain a large lead. For this reason I think it's safe to say that Serah is a townie, since she kept changing her vote off of the leading contender. I wish I'd thought of that so I wouldn't have been part of the move that killed our key role.Not biting.

The only people I would consider less likely to be scum are the ones voted on: Sazh (dead), Quina, Galuf.
Really no reason to not suspect Galuf at this point, considering he only made 3 posts. Sure that doesn't make him mafia, but that hardly makes him . Notice the other two are town to build credibility.

And that's just the tip of the iceberg! But it will have to do for now.

##Vote: Yuffie

[M] D'Anna
11-19-2012, 08:37 AM
Noctis;3167324']
Biggs;3167318']The thing is, why would any mafia start off a day by gunning for you, knowing it would be their death sentence? What possible reason could Blank have for poking the bear?Because they keep trying to kill me and don't understand why it won't work.

This post right here is going to be shrieked at in the mafia forum. Hee hee hee! HAVE FUN TRYING TO KILL ME SOME MORE, DOUCHEBAGS :cool:
If we can't laugh at ourselves then is this world even worth living in?

[M] D'Anna
11-19-2012, 08:48 AM
Found one more:


Yuffie;3166359']When I said Galuf was more sketchy than Quina, I did not mean he was more sketchy than everyone else, so I am surprised by this move.

I almost wish we didn't know these things. First, Faris has claimed some sort of tracking role. Second, Galuf has some kind of night action role. So now instead of just Wedge and Serah to target, we have to consider Faris and Galuf possible night kills and wonder if that affects our day voting.
Automatically assumed Galuf's 'night role' was town-aligned when of course there are many very nasty night roles as well. Also listing out all the possible night targets for mafia. Almost like she is referring to a list posted on another forum somewhere...

Ok, see you slicksters later.

[M] Apollo
11-19-2012, 10:47 AM
Well that was a weird few nights then. How can it go from end of the world type situation to great outcome in two nights.

Am I the only one who was disappointed they didn't get a pm with a report in it?
It's either really unlucky or just convenient that Wedge sent a report to a now dead person. I'd like to see who comes forward with the report.


Leila;3167281']Also, what exactly is the bus driver role?

Bus driver selects two people and makes them swap places for the night, meaning that if person A was targeted, then person B would receive the effect of that target. More here. (http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Bus_Driver)


Rydia;3167288']
Biggs;3167287']
How do you know such details?

I pray thee on the morrow, send a messenger to heaven to make the same enquiry of my shade

If he find me not, seek me in the other place thyself.

Who knows what Faris' role is, but this is still oddly specific. The descriptions for poisoner (http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Poisoner) that I've found don't refer to the odd days thing, which makes that part quite odd. It could have been taken as another 'brainstorm' but that was more of a statement. It does quite neatly fit the turn of events though, I'll give her that. Why else would Galuf do nothing on night 2? I'm not sure what to think.



Noctis;3167317']By the way... your utterly poor case or whatever the smurf that was meant to be against me... that was just to say "Oh Psy said he'd accuse anyone who accused him! He has no real reason for voting for me!!!!" wasn't it? Oh dear. Pre-empted your little retort there so you can't use that.

##vote: Blank

He hath awoken the beast!
I see where he is coming from with the lack of mention of the validity of the roleclaim, but overall it does seem like he is grasping at straws. You're pretty clean, but I can understand why he may be doing it though; if you're town, why haven't the mafia killed you yet? If you're mafia, well smurf.
If you're not dead because the mafia can't kill you, then that just makes things confusing.
Like, if they tried to shoot you, why not try poisoning? The bus driver sure makes things confusing for the first few nights, but then why not last night? (if we are to believe what Faris said about Galuf targeting Cid. It'll be interesting to see how that goes too...) I can't come to any sort of conclusion here, there's just too many variables. smurfing mindsmurf.

I think I'll let it sit in my head for a bit and we'll see what it looks like when it's all settled down.


Sorry for the long post, I'm tired and I go on a bit when I'm tired...
At the risk of doing a Wakka, I'm gonna go eat and come back and see if anyone is actually here to talk.

[M] Mike - Funny Dad
11-19-2012, 11:02 AM
Apropos of nothing (or is it?) mafiascum.net is blocked at one location I post from, so I might occasionally get details wrong.

I may even get them wrong on purpose, depending on how lucid I choose to be at any given moment

[M] Apollo
11-19-2012, 11:25 AM
So where did the whole only poison on odd days thing come from?

[M] Trevor - Gay Dad
11-19-2012, 12:45 PM
Well one mafia down, ??? more to go!

Ok so here's my suspicious list in no particular order.

Rikku
Setzer
Yuffie

Pretty under the radar players if you ask me. My secondary list consists of,

Balthier
Wedge
Wakka
Faris

Faris and Wedge because they could just be clever with their role claims, for I'm going to trust them for the moment, but I would really like to have a detailed idea of who they targeted each night and the results so we can start going over it, they are investigative roles they claim, so if they are pro-town no more use hiding anything as they are night targets by mafia. Speaking of that...

Balthier bothers me because he was adamant that anyone who thought 2 roleclaiming investigative roles would be targeted was mafia, which from my experience is nothing more than a poor tactic by scum to get people suspicious of the wrong people with bad reasoning. I'll need to re-read over our exchange to better get an opinion on the matter, but for now he' in my second category of suspicious.

Wakka strikes me as scummy because of his sudden declaration that there must have been a bus driver day 2 on such little information. Unless there's a second bus driver and he is it (I doubt he is the bus driver if that's the case though), then he seemed awfully fast to jump up and claim it, and if he were the bus driver role hinting like that would be rather silly and paint a target for people reading carefully.

But that's just my initial thoughts. I'll be back later after classes and hopefully have time to read over old stuff while I look over the mountain of text that will ensue.

[M] Mom Host
11-19-2012, 01:50 PM
Geez, kupo, pretty boring in here.

[M] Blank (1) - Noctis
[M] Yuffie (1) - Biggs

Just over 13 hours to go, kupo. :mog:

[M] Al - Biker Dad
11-19-2012, 02:39 PM
One down, ??? to go. Some lucky roleblocking there, or maybe some bulletproof townies around. 4 night kills on N2 though... Assuming that Quistis was poisoned, the mafia kill went through and there's a secondary killing faction out there - that's still only three kills. Night 2 was a curious night, and hopefully some of the reasons will come to light.

Welcome to the fray, Biggs! Nice to see you taking part. :p And with some interesting commentary on Yuffie.

I cannot seem to load the mafiascum.swf at all. Is it down? But the mafia wiki says nothing about it only being on odd days, however I'd imagine the mafia would use the skill on the first night - leading to it being poisoning on odd days. Which is seemingly the case here. But, I will admit, Rydia does seem to know the in depth specifics of the poisoner role. Curious indeed.

Blank coming out gunning today is interesting, definitely a departure from his previous persona. Maybe he has something on Noctis? I can sort of understand his reasoning but it is reaching a bit.

Wedge - can you tell us who you investigated on N2/3? Who you sent the results to? You have given us a vague answer already today, but some specifics would have been nice.
I certainly hope that your inverstigation results come through today, since that's two investigations that just happened to lead to nothing. Unlucky, eh?

Faris, if everything you are saying is true, then Cid does not have long to live. Unless he believes that there is a poison doctor who is willing to take a chance on Faris' claim.


Only 13 hours left? I should be back before the day is out. However, on the off chance I am not able to get back online, I suppose I should vote. Both Blank and Wedge are sitting funny with me today. I hate voting this early on in the day, especially if I will be unable to change it...

##Vote: Wedge

I feel like I should let him come back and tell us the information we asked for, and also wait for the person who he sent his results to to show up. However, he was asked to tell us information about his last two investigations earlier today and he dodged the question. Admittedly he wouldn't have results, but there was information he chose not to give - instead making nonsense posts with Rydia for a further 20 minutes.
Hell, if he'd named dropped two people for his N2 investigations (it could have been made up for all I'd really know) I wouldn't be as supicious of him, as I can understand the desire to wait for someone to back up claims as may happen today.

If the truth comes out (and I am able to) I will change my vote, but until something comes of his investigations... this just does not sit right with me.
Overthinking things, mafia style. xD

[M] Apollo
11-19-2012, 03:51 PM
Refia;3167362']Wakka strikes me as scummy because of his sudden declaration that there must have been a bus driver day 2 on such little information. Unless there's a second bus driver and he is it (I doubt he is the bus driver if that's the case though), then he seemed awfully fast to jump up and claim it, and if he were the bus driver role hinting like that would be rather silly and paint a target for people reading carefully.
There have been bus drivers in other mafia games here, and maybe that one stuck with him from a previous game, that's my feel on his thought there. Plus bus driver acts as a perfect way to mindsmurf, it's quite a reasonable conclusion. If anything his other posts are an issue, they often lack substance, or are about arriving and then returning and then eating, etc. etc.
More analyses needed!


Setzer;3167395']Wedge - can you tell us who you investigated on N2/3? Who you sent the results to? You have given us a vague answer already today, but some specifics would have been nice.
I certainly hope that your inverstigation results come through today, since that's two investigations that just happened to lead to nothing. Unlucky, eh?

My guess is he is waiting for someone to come forward with a report so that he can determine if they are lying or not.

We're still waiting on

[M] Luneth
[M] Relm
[M] Yuffie
[M] Cid
[M] Rikku
[M] Penelo
[M] Balthier

to post today, so maybe we'll see something from one of them.


I've made the mistake of waiting up to see activity, when I should have slept and woken early. I'm gonna crash now.

Initially I wasn't going to place a vote, as there are far too many unanswered questions (Wedge's roleclaim, Yuffie's rebuttal, Rydia's gain and loss of lucidity, Cid's thoughts on possible poisoning, why certain people aren't very active, and more), but on further review, Luneth has only posted twice. Once on day one, and once (http://home.eyesonff.com/wonder-square/146626-anniversary-mafia-game-thread-day-four-death-villain-11.html#post3166282) 7 hours before the end of day two.
Inactivity at this point in the game is crazy, and we theoretically have enough dead people to fill roles, right? If he's busy, I totally understand, but I'm going to vote for him if he's just hiding. Hopefully he'll make an appearance. And contribute something too.
I will probably be still sleeping by end of day, but I'll do what I can to get up early. Night!

##Vote: Luneth


**Up above in my big post earlier, I wrote Faris, and meant Rydia. My bad. I'm gonna sleep now guys, I promise.

[M] D'Anna
11-19-2012, 03:56 PM
Refia;3167362']Well one mafia down, ??? more to go!


Setzer;3167395']One down, ??? to go.
Looks like you guys may have copied the same post in your mafia forum. ;)

[M] D'Anna
11-19-2012, 04:00 PM
Refia, you posted your nice little list with the minimal 'see I'm trying guys!' commentary, but it will take more than that to win this game. Having classes is no excuse because mafia > all.

[M] Harry - Dad's Dad
11-19-2012, 04:07 PM
Here are some of my thoughts:

About role calls: we can either believe them, keep them alive, and follow their findings or not believe them at all and axe them. Right now we don't have anything solid to follow aside from Faris's claim that Cid might die unless saved by an apothecary tonight. Which means one of the following might happen tonight:
- Cid dies alone because the mafia is going to mess with Faris's claim to make us believe that she is lying.
- Cid dies alone because Faris is mafia and wants us to believe that mafia will be trying to trick us into thinking that she is mafia.
- Cid doesn't die because an uncertain existing apothecary role will cure him.
- Cid doesn't die because Faris is utilizing Galuf's death for the second possible night event.
- Two people die because the mafia took out one + Cid's poisoning. (This would be the best case scenario to validitizing Faris's claim, sorry Cid and other person).

Right now I would have no reason to take out Faris because I would want to test this theory without killing her because her role would be useful to us. Wedge's role claim has yet to have any testable scenario aside from taking him out and seeing his actual role (which would be shooting ourselves in the foot if he's on the Town's side). We also don't want any other investigative roles or cops outing themselves because they'll probably just be taken out by mafia sooner than later.

Sure most other people are acting strange, but that's normal in these tensing situations. </SPAN>

</SPAN>Until more information is available we have no real voting tests to perform without potentially taking out an extremely useful role. After reading Leon's post, Luneth is the safe vote for today because of their lack of activity aaaand just above her post count is Galuf :eek:. DUN DUN DUUUUUUUUUUNN

##Vote: Luneth

[M] D'Anna
11-19-2012, 04:22 PM
Yep, that sure is a safe vote. Safe for you since it keeps you out of the main discussion. ;)

[M] Harry - Dad's Dad
11-19-2012, 04:57 PM
Maybe something will change my mind later ;)

[M] D'Anna
11-19-2012, 05:28 PM
I demand you elaborate on that! Only because no one else is tallllkinnnng.

[M] Harry - Dad's Dad
11-19-2012, 06:07 PM
That's because most others are at work or sleeping, deal with it :p

I want to go with the safe vote today because I want to see tonight's activity uninterrupted to make conclusions on Faris, Cid, and Wedge without doing a self vote or being completely inactive. Day 5 will be a lot more riskay. Unless someone raises a major red flad later on today, I stand by my vote.

[M] D'Anna
11-19-2012, 07:10 PM
People who have yet to post today:

Luneth - 2 total posts, boring inactive, safe vote for anyone who doesn't want a fight (looking at you Leila).
Relm - Posts some, but pretty much a non-entity. Those make the most dangerous mafia ;).
Yuffie - Second highest poster, but suspiciously absent so far.
Cid - Not really that active, possibly poisoned so he needs to step up his game if he wants to help us.
Rikku - 6 total posts, only active on Day 1 when she was messing around with Al Bhed.
Penelo - 5 total posts, not done anything remotely useful.
Balthier - Participated throughout Day 2, would like his thoughts on how it ended.

[M] D'Anna
11-19-2012, 07:10 PM
Leila;3167459']That's because most others are at work or sleeping, deal with it :p
There is no work or rest in mafia!!

[M] Dave Stepdad
11-19-2012, 07:16 PM
Leon;3167424']
Setzer;3167395']Wedge - can you tell us who you investigated on N2/3? Who you sent the results to? You have given us a vague answer already today, but some specifics would have been nice.
I certainly hope that your inverstigation results come through today, since that's two investigations that just happened to lead to nothing. Unlucky, eh?

My guess is he is waiting for someone to come forward with a report so that he can determine if they are lying or not.



This. I am waiting to see what the person I sent the report to does with it.

[M] Trevor - Gay Dad
11-19-2012, 07:19 PM
Well I keep going back and forth on Faris, but I think I'll trust my gut for the moment, Faris is going up on my suspect list, why? Reading back on her older posts after she roleclaimed tracker, she said she was tracking Galuf every night, and why would she do that? She said earlier,


Yeah, to be honest with you. I've been watching Galuf since day 1, or rather last night. He has been rather suspiciously silent ever since he showed up on day 1. I'm not sure what to actually think of him. I've had my watch on him since then.

You hear that old man? I've got my eyes on you!

So she can track people and see where they go? Tracks down an old man night one and saw he was at the house of someone who didn't die. So her next thought is...."Suspicious!!! I'll continue to watch him!!!!" Sorry sweety, but that just doesn't sit well with me. :monster:

It seems like a waste of an investigative role to be watching an old guy who you had no reason to. Honestly this smells super scummy to me. almost as if you knew Galuf would die last night or soon for one reason or another. While I sort of doubt the mafia would kill off one of their own, I can only conclude Faris is either mafia trying to establish themselves as a townie in a convoluted way, or just sucks as an investigative role.

I mean if you see person A goes to person B's house in the night and Person B isn't dead the next morning, the logical thought is that "Oh hey, person A didn't go there to kill person B, they must have done something else". And the list of what they could have done instead is rather extensive (investigate, protect, roleblock, etc).

It just strikes me as odd how you just so happened to track the same guy 3 days in a row when a more logical explanation was he was some sort of other power role (not necessarily town aligned, but not someone performing kills either). Something just isn't adding up.

As for Wedge, just tell us who you sent reports to, and who on for nights 2 and 3. Including who the dead person is. Your lack of sharing info is concerning me, it does no one good but mafia when you keep vital info hidden away for no good reason. I just can't think of a solid reason to hide this info of who at this stage, we know your trying to send reports out, but you never tell us to who, and about who, outside night 1.

[M] Mike - Funny Dad
11-19-2012, 07:26 PM
Leon;3167349']So where did the whole only poison on odd days thing come from?

Are you sure the message behind that was directed at you?

It boots nothing to evade my snares, for they are ever beset with more snares.

[M] Dave Stepdad
11-19-2012, 07:36 PM
There is nothing to report since I don't get the results of my own investigations. I am not going to say who I investigated on Night 2 yet because I am not sure if Kain was allowed to do his own night action before he died and I don't want someone to pop up and deceive the town and me by saying, "Oh, I got that report, Kain must have switched me with so and so and I must have been the true target." That would just muddle things up further. Plus, Serah said she never received the first report and she was obviously town aligned and wouldn't have any reason not to tell the town about a report on an already dead doctor, so this investigative ability is pretty bunk. Better for the real cop to do the investigating and find out who is for and against town.

[M] Trevor - Gay Dad
11-19-2012, 07:44 PM
Ok I'll go with it for now Wedge, but before the end of the day if no one steps up I'll want to hear the results, as it means no one received it, or your not what you claim to be. And anyone trying to do a false claim about it after you tell us the results we could probably conclude is lying about it and claiming bus driver.

Though either way Night 3 shouldn't matter as the bus driver was dead night 2, so unless there's a second bus driver there shouldn't be much worry on thigns getting swapped as I know of no other night action switching roles beyond the Nexus.

[M] Trevor - Gay Dad
11-19-2012, 08:21 PM
Also,

##Vote: Rikku

We need to have a little talk darlin'.

[M] Greg - Hot Dad
11-19-2012, 08:38 PM
Leon;3167343']if you're town, why haven't the mafia killed you yet? If you're mafia, well smurf.
If you're not dead because the mafia can't kill you, then that just makes things confusing.Oh there's been a little bit of fiddling in the night. La-da-de, la-da-da, I think they've tried to kill me twice now. You'd think they'd take the hint by now.

Anyway, I will mindlessly bandwagon with you all on Luneth if I have to, she's kind of dodgy, but I'd really prefer it if you helped me twat Blank. You can believe in me! I'm like fairies or magic!

[M] Dave Stepdad
11-19-2012, 09:03 PM
They tried to kill you twice? Well, that seems ridiculous, more likely two killing factions tried to kill you and failed.

[M] D'Anna
11-19-2012, 09:20 PM
Noctis;3167523']
Anyway, I will mindlessly bandwagon with you all on Luneth if I have to, she's kind of dodgy, but I'd really prefer it if you helped me twat Blank. You can believe in me! I'm like fairies or magic!
Why so intent to bandwagon an inactive when you yourself hate that strategy:


Noctis;3165851']anyway can I just say all this "HEH HEH HEH INACTIVES" is a potato

because

IT IS YOU GUYS

"Oh ho hum I will vote for an inactive to make them come out and post!"

Do you really think I'm like sitting there going "doop de doop de doop not gonna post! OHHHH NO! Someone voted for me! My one weakness!"

We all know it's ridiculous and anyone who spouts this as a good sensible tactic is trying to make you think they're good. Easy target, no-one can defend the inactives!

Just stop. In every mafia game ever.

[M] Greg - Hot Dad
11-19-2012, 09:20 PM
Wedge;3167542']They tried to kill you twice? Well, that seems ridiculous, more likely two killing factions tried to kill you and failed.Oh really...? Haha. Cool.

Well, whoever it is that keeps trying to do it, HA FREAKIN' HA! is what I say. :bigsmile:

[M] Walter - Smart Dad
11-19-2012, 09:20 PM
Refia;3167501']Well I keep going back and forth on Faris, but I think I'll trust my gut for the moment, Faris is going up on my suspect list, why? Reading back on her older posts after she roleclaimed tracker, she said she was tracking Galuf every night, and why would she do that? She said earlier,

Yeah, to be honest with you. I've been watching Galuf since day 1, or rather last night. He has been rather suspiciously silent ever since he showed up on day 1. I'm not sure what to actually think of him. I've had my watch on him since then.
You hear that old man? I've got my eyes on you!
So she can track people and see where they go? Tracks down an old man night one and saw he was at the house of someone who didn't die. So her next thought is...."Suspicious!!! I'll continue to watch him!!!!" Sorry sweety, but that just doesn't sit well with me. :monster:

I can't really see where they go. I can only see who they have targeted, but I do not know anything else. Sorry if my role is unhelpful at worst. Since Galuf is gone, my main target of choice is gone. I'll see what I can do in the future though, and I'm glaaad to have your vote of confidence, Refia.

I do want to add that I agree about Rikku, I had my vote on her because of her forcing us to vote without basis of fact to rely on. I might go place my vote on her today

[M] Greg - Hot Dad
11-19-2012, 09:22 PM
Biggs;3167545']
Noctis;3167523']
Anyway, I will mindlessly bandwagon with you all on Luneth if I have to, she's kind of dodgy, but I'd really prefer it if you helped me twat Blank. You can believe in me! I'm like fairies or magic!
Why so intent to bandwagon an inactive when you yourself hate that strategy:


Noctis;3165851']anyway can I just say all this "HEH HEH HEH INACTIVES" is a potato

because

IT IS YOU GUYS

"Oh ho hum I will vote for an inactive to make them come out and post!"

Do you really think I'm like sitting there going "doop de doop de doop not gonna post! OHHHH NO! Someone voted for me! My one weakness!"

We all know it's ridiculous and anyone who spouts this as a good sensible tactic is trying to make you think they're good. Easy target, no-one can defend the inactives!

Just stop. In every mafia game ever.uhhh... the hint was in the word "mindlessly" :greenie:

[M] Dave Stepdad
11-19-2012, 09:24 PM
Noctis;3167546']
Wedge;3167542']They tried to kill you twice? Well, that seems ridiculous, more likely two killing factions tried to kill you and failed.Oh really...? Haha. Cool.

Well, whoever it is that keeps trying to do it, HA FREAKIN' HA! is what I say. :bigsmile:

I know that thought crossed your mind, your snarkiness about pointing out the obvious doesn't help town, maybe not everyone thought of it, there are many new players in this game.

[M] D'Anna
11-19-2012, 09:26 PM
So why are you so sure people tried to kill you Noctis?

[M] Greg - Hot Dad
11-19-2012, 09:27 PM
Wedge;3167550']
Noctis;3167546']
Wedge;3167542']They tried to kill you twice? Well, that seems ridiculous, more likely two killing factions tried to kill you and failed.Oh really...? Haha. Cool.

Well, whoever it is that keeps trying to do it, HA FREAKIN' HA! is what I say. :bigsmile:

I know that thought crossed your mind, your snarkiness about pointing out the obvious doesn't help town, maybe not everyone thought of it, there are many new players in this game.It hadn't actually. Sorry, genuinely wasn't snark at you there, I am only snarking at the mafia right now.

[M] Greg - Hot Dad
11-19-2012, 09:28 PM
Biggs;3167551']So why are you so sure people tried to kill you Noctis?It's a surprise. You'll know why when you lynch me tomorrow and find out my role!

[M] D'Anna
11-19-2012, 09:29 PM
Wedge;3167505']There is nothing to report since I don't get the results of my own investigations. I am not going to say who I investigated on Night 2 yet because I am not sure if Kain was allowed to do his own night action before he died and I don't want someone to pop up and deceive the town and me by saying, "Oh, I got that report, Kain must have switched me with so and so and I must have been the true target." That would just muddle things up further. Plus, Serah said she never received the first report and she was obviously town aligned and wouldn't have any reason not to tell the town about a report on an already dead doctor, so this investigative ability is pretty bunk. Better for the real cop to do the investigating and find out who is for and against town.
There was also a Night 3. How interesting that you didn't mention it. Almost as if it didn't matter...

[M] D'Anna
11-19-2012, 09:32 PM
Noctis;3167556']
Biggs;3167551']So why are you so sure people tried to kill you Noctis?It's a surprise. You'll know why when you lynch me tomorrow and find out my role!
You're so sure I will win? What happened to your lifelong mafia goal?

[M] Greg - Hot Dad
11-19-2012, 09:34 PM
Biggs;3167563']
Noctis;3167556']
Biggs;3167551']So why are you so sure people tried to kill you Noctis?It's a surprise. You'll know why when you lynch me tomorrow and find out my role!
You're so sure I will win? What happened to your lifelong mafia goal?You will have 3-4 days' worth of utter insanity to lynch me on. A chimpanzee could lynch me. What could I possibly use against you? A whole day of the odd question here and there? I mean, there's meta evidence to suggest mafia but I'm not going to use that as it's not fair.

The only thing I have in my favour is if Blank gets lynched and is what I suspect him to be, and right now nobody else wants to ride that train. But it works both ways. If Blank is lynched and is town - I doubt it but in a mindfuck mafia you can never be 100% sure - then I may as well just vote for myself tomorrow.

[M] Trevor - Gay Dad
11-19-2012, 09:36 PM
I can't really see where they go. I can only see who they have targeted, but I do not know anything else. Sorry if my role is unhelpful at worst. Since Galuf is gone, my main target of choice is gone. I'll see what I can do in the future though, and I'm glaaad to have your vote of confidence, Refia.

Your role is quite helpful, but I think your playing it poorly. Which is why I think there's a decent chance your lying about it. I mean if I were a tracker I would probably investigate Wedge and see if he did any night actions in the night that weren't at a dead townies house, or something along those lines. Rather than watch the same old fart who shouldn't be any more suspicious than anyone else for 3 nights.

I would probably vote you now, but Rikku hiding under the radar bothers me a lot more, as well as I want to believe that your really an investigative role and that you and Wedge not dying in either night was either really well done protections/roleblocks, or hopes from the mafia that you are suspicious enough to get lynched and make us waste a day's kill.

[M] D'Anna
11-19-2012, 09:41 PM
I am 100% convinced that Faris is a tracker. Could be a mafia tracker, but not likely. Tracker is waaay too easy to prove since involved things only another member would know. For example, have Faris track Wedge and report back to us. If she picks the wrong players then Wedge can disprove it. You just can't keep up a false Tracker claim for very long. Much easier to claim something like Cop where false guesses can be explained by insanity.

[M] Dave Stepdad
11-19-2012, 09:42 PM
Biggs;3167560']
Wedge;3167505']There is nothing to report since I don't get the results of my own investigations. I am not going to say who I investigated on Night 2 yet because I am not sure if Kain was allowed to do his own night action before he died and I don't want someone to pop up and deceive the town and me by saying, "Oh, I got that report, Kain must have switched me with so and so and I must have been the true target." That would just muddle things up further. Plus, Serah said she never received the first report and she was obviously town aligned and wouldn't have any reason not to tell the town about a report on an already dead doctor, so this investigative ability is pretty bunk. Better for the real cop to do the investigating and find out who is for and against town.
There was also a Night 3. How interesting that you didn't mention it. Almost as if it didn't matter...

I mentioned it in my earlier post, but since you missed it I will repost it here:


Wedge;3167500']
Leon;3167424']
Setzer;3167395']Wedge - can you tell us who you investigated on N2/3? Who you sent the results to? You have given us a vague answer already today, but some specifics would have been nice.
I certainly hope that your inverstigation results come through today, since that's two investigations that just happened to lead to nothing. Unlucky, eh?

My guess is he is waiting for someone to come forward with a report so that he can determine if they are lying or not.



This. I am waiting to see what the person I sent the report to does with it.

[M] D'Anna
11-19-2012, 09:44 PM
Noctis;3167569']You will have 3-4 days' worth of utter insanity to lynch me on. A chimpanzee could lynch me. What could I possibly use against you? A whole day of the odd question here and there? I mean, there's meta evidence to suggest mafia but I'm not going to use that as it's not fair.

The only thing I have in my favour is if Blank gets lynched and is what I suspect him to be, and right now nobody else wants to ride that train. But it works both ways. If Blank is lynched and is town - I doubt it but in a mindfuck mafia you can never be 100% sure - then I may as well just vote for myself tomorrow.
So you're a mafia godfather trying to get the serial killer?

[M] D'Anna
11-19-2012, 09:46 PM
Wedge: Thanks. I did miss that. If the day end is close and no one has stepped up, can you at least reveal some of your information? There's no guarantee you'll be around tomorrow to continue baiting people.

I'll just step right up and say: I never received a damn thing. :(

[M] Greg - Hot Dad
11-19-2012, 09:48 PM
Biggs;3167583']So you're a mafia godfather trying to get the serial killer?Correct.

[M] Dave Stepdad
11-19-2012, 09:48 PM
I will do my best to enlighten town with what I know before I am offed, yes.

[M] D'Anna
11-19-2012, 09:50 PM
Noctis;3167587']
Biggs;3167583']So you're a mafia godfather trying to get the serial killer?Correct.
Makes sense.

##Unvote: Yuffie
##Vote: Blank

[M] Ron - Cop Dad
11-19-2012, 09:52 PM
I'm not an inactive. I didn't say much on day one and the end of day two, but I was actually busy or sleeping. I posted a hell of a lot today since I had the two night times to analyze posts and the alignments to go on.

I do suspect Noctis. Do I actually think that by posting a long post of suspicions on him that people will just agree with me and lynch him? I don't think so. I realize he has more clout in this game than I do at the moment. He has a very strong personality and seems good at the game, so I think a lot of people are avoiding really calling him into question. I didn't want him to go unquestioned. And for that matter, Noctis, you still haven't answered my previous post, and I would really like to know who you suspect aside from myself.

But, he's not my number one suspect. You still haven't answered why you went for Galuf on night three, Faris. I went through the rest of your posts on day two and you didn't say anything against anyone except for some suspicions on Rydia that I'm not really on key with. (And for that matter, I don't know what the hell is going on with Rydia today, and she did make at least one contradiction yesterday, but she just doesn't give me enough of a mafia vibe). Why didn't you investigate Rydia, if you suspected her, or anyone else on night 3 after the person who Galuf targeted didn't die on day 2 and Galuf seemed absent on night 2?

[M] Greg - Hot Dad
11-19-2012, 09:53 PM
Why do you only ever show up when somebody votes for you :greenie:

Also, I suspect nobody apart from you. You are the only scum in the game and when we kill you, the game will end and I will Thunderdome with Biggs.

[M] D'Anna
11-19-2012, 09:54 PM
Blank, who was your night action on Night 1?

[M] Ron - Cop Dad
11-19-2012, 09:55 PM
I'm glad you think I can type that post in the two minutes from Biggs voting for me. xD I must have lightning mind and like 5000 wpm.

[M] Ron - Cop Dad
11-19-2012, 09:56 PM
Biggs, why are you asking?

[M] Greg - Hot Dad
11-19-2012, 09:56 PM
Blank;3167595']I'm glad you think I can type that post in the two minutes from Biggs voting for me. xD I must have lightning mind and like 5000 wpm.A full confession! SEND HIM TO THE GALLOWS.

[M] Greg - Hot Dad
11-19-2012, 09:57 PM
Blank;3167597']Biggs, why are you asking?Don't answer a question with a question, sissy. He knows your secret. Out with it!

[M] D'Anna
11-19-2012, 09:57 PM
Blank;3167597']Biggs, why are you asking?
Because that's the one I can't figure out.

[M] Trevor - Gay Dad
11-19-2012, 09:57 PM
Blank;3167595']I'm glad you think I can type that post in the two minutes from Biggs voting for me. xD I must have lightning mind and like 5000 wpm.

He's a witch! Burn him!


Blank, who was your night action on Night 1?

Wait was there a roleclaim I missed?

[M] Jeff - Single Dad
11-19-2012, 09:58 PM
I'll be honest, I haven't bothered to read the thread properly ever since all that dumb FOR ROME etc crap happened on day two, so I'll get around to that now. Until then, enjoy my latest rendition of things going on in the game.

http://img716.imageshack.us/img716/7168/blanknoctis.jpg

[M] Greg - Hot Dad
11-19-2012, 10:00 PM
Refia;3167602']Wait was there a roleclaim I missed?Yes. Blank roleclaimed scum with every single word he has put into this thread. VOTE FOR BLANK, 2012

[M] Greg - Hot Dad
11-19-2012, 10:01 PM
Relm your pictures are beautiful. I can't help but wonder if there is more to them than meets the eye. Like a transformer but with less cement truck and more art.

[M] D'Anna
11-19-2012, 10:03 PM
Blank hasn't claimed, but there are only two roles he can claim that will take my vote off of him now. Let's see if he picks the right one.

[M] Ron - Cop Dad
11-19-2012, 10:05 PM
Not a witch, a robot! Beep beep.

Relm, *shakes head*

Noctis, WE ALL GET that you want me dead and have since day 2. Keep campaigning if you want but you're doing the town no help by not giving your suspicions on anyone else.

Biggs, seriously, you're asking me to claim right now? No. I don't think Noctis's vendetta against me holds water, and I have no idea what you're doing.

[M] Greg - Hot Dad
11-19-2012, 10:06 PM
Biggs;3167608']Blank hasn't claimed, but there are only two roles he can claim that will take my vote off of him now. Let's see if he picks the right one.tick tock Blank, it should only take you a second or two to type out your role... it would of course take longer if you have to think of one~

[M] Greg - Hot Dad
11-19-2012, 10:06 PM
awwww

Blank choked.

Disappointing really. Get lynched.

[M] Greg - Hot Dad
11-19-2012, 10:07 PM
Blank;3167609']Noctis, WE ALL GET that you want me dead and have since day 2. Keep campaigning if you want but you're doing the town no help by not giving your suspicions on anyone else."Please accuse someone who is not me".

why

that is just what a scum would say! :eek:

[M] D'Anna
11-19-2012, 10:22 PM
I think you took the fight out of him. A shame. We shall mourn you, poor Blank. Serial Killer is a tough roll to handle.

[M] Jeff - Single Dad
11-19-2012, 10:22 PM
Alright I've given it a read and so...

There are a few people who I am just plain old not sure on. Refia, Wakka, Biggs etc etc. They're just kind of here, and I don't get any particular vibe either way from what they've been saying. I feel like it would be unfair at this time to go after them for anything when there are people who bother me more.

Wedge, for example, I honestly have no idea what you're playing at. I do not believe your roleclaim at all, and the excuses you roll out become more ludicrous each time. You can't tell us this, you don't want to tell us that, there's always something to help you out. One thing you haven't said, or considered, as far as I'm aware, is that there maybe a roleblocker of some kind in action? I mean if they had the ability it would make sense for the mafia to roleblock you, seeing as you basically claimed investigative powers on day 2. But instead you've been rolling out excuse after excuse, like you actually need to be excused for your inability to produce anything. I don't like it, and I don't like you.

also, Yuffie. Biggs already bought up a fair few points which I'm not going to rehash. I'm just goign to go back to something earlier in the game which has bothered me the entire time. I think it was on day 2, when you came steaming into the thread, demanding everybody vote and vote right now despite freely admitting that there was very little information to go on. At one stage you said something along the lines of how you believe everyone should commit to voting and voting early, and that anyone who does not you do not trust. You were absolutely vehement in your desire that everyone vote for those reasons. To me, honestly, it just smacks of scum. You come bolting in to the thread, slam down a vote on someone at random with no explaination and then try to enforce this idea in the minds of other players that not only was that kind of play something all good townies would do but also that anyone who is unwilling to follow you is untrustworthy. Had it played out in your advantage and people actually bought into your crap, you would have had done a nice job at setting yourself up as town. Thankfully no one did, though. I don't trust you at all. In fact, I hope you die.

##vote Yuffie

also;



Relm your pictures are beautiful. I can't help but wonder if there is more to them than meets the eye.

Now that would be telling. :flirt:

[M] Greg - Hot Dad
11-19-2012, 10:26 PM
Are YOU a town sitting on the fence and don't know who to vote for?

VOTE FOR BLANK

Why?

Because if I'm right, he's scum and we all get to start hi-fiving each other.

If I'm wrong, you can hold this against me every time I try to brag about how I am awesome at mafia and I will have no response at all. You can finally shut me up for good!

WIN-WIN! VOTE FOR BLANK!

[M] Walter - Smart Dad
11-19-2012, 10:29 PM
Tell us more, Noctis. I would love to help you but I'm not entirely sure if I'm convinced.

[M] D'Anna
11-19-2012, 10:32 PM
But what about option 3: You are wrong, but on purpose because you are the scum yourself!!

I mean yeah, I'm suspicious as hell of Yuffie too but Noctis doesn't do anything without a plan and it's much more entertaining to see his crazy schemes play out.

[M] Greg - Hot Dad
11-19-2012, 10:32 PM
Faris;3167621']Tell us more, Noctis. I would love to help you but I'm not entirely sure if I'm convinced.Why does he only show up when people vote for him, yet slinks in the shadows whenever the discussion is elsewhere?

Why is it that he is so insistent that I focus my attention on other people instead of him? If you're town, you should be happy to debate your own scum-state for the good of the town. He be squirmin'.

Why on earth does he keep saying "I DON'T TRUST NOCTIS YOU GUYS SHOULDN'T TRUST NOCTIS" despite not putting together the slightest of shred of evidence against me? Actually, let me answer that. To discredit me. Why would anyone other than a scum seek to discredit? I'm all ears if you know why!

[M] Greg - Hot Dad
11-19-2012, 10:34 PM
Biggs;3167622']But what about option 3: You are wrong, but on purpose because you are the scum yourself!!
That would be pretty funny! But if I was going to kamikaze anyone, it would be you. And I'd claim cop too :greenie:

[M] Jeff - Single Dad
11-19-2012, 10:37 PM
I think Psynoctis can do a good enough job of stringing up Blank on his own for now. :p I'd rather like to see what Wedge and Yuffie have to say for themselves for later on down the line.

[M] D'Anna
11-19-2012, 10:41 PM
Waiting is dumb. The mafia is also waiting. Waiting for the day to end and they can shift votes onto someone other than themselves. Keeping information to yourself only hurts us in the end. Just look at poor Quina.

Only qwerty can play the waiting game effectively.

[M] Jeff - Single Dad
11-19-2012, 10:42 PM
Also, I'm really sorry but with you two fellating each other about this so badly about your fated showdown, I really can't resist it any more.

http://img15.imageshack.us/img15/6634/biggsc.jpg

don't hold it against me bubby. :shobon:

[M] Greg - Hot Dad
11-19-2012, 10:44 PM
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! :crying2

[M] Greg - Hot Dad
11-19-2012, 10:44 PM
:crying2: EVEN!

[M] D'Anna
11-19-2012, 10:45 PM
:(

[M] Greg - Hot Dad
11-19-2012, 10:46 PM
Great now I'm worth 3 Del Murders.

Oh well I look forward to my showdown with Penelo on Day 6.

[M] D'Anna
11-19-2012, 10:46 PM
Ian Flemming's James Biggs will be back

in

PsyFall

[M] Dave Stepdad
11-19-2012, 10:49 PM
Relm;3167617']
Wedge, for example, I honestly have no idea what you're playing at. I do not believe your roleclaim at all, and the excuses you roll out become more ludicrous each time. You can't tell us this, you don't want to tell us that, there's always something to help you out. One thing you haven't said, or considered, as far as I'm aware, is that there maybe a roleblocker of some kind in action? I mean if they had the ability it would make sense for the mafia to roleblock you, seeing as you basically claimed investigative powers on day 2. But instead you've been rolling out excuse after excuse, like you actually need to be excused for your inability to produce anything. I don't like it, and I don't like you.

I never thought for a second that there isn't a possibility of a roleblocker blocking me, there most likely is, however, I won't be able to determine that at all until the person who I chose to send the report to shows up and starts chatting. Also, there is no guarantee that on Night 3 I didn't choose someone who will turn out to be mafia to receive my investigation, so that can hinder town as well. I will be forth coming about who I have investigated and who I have sent those investigations to later when everyone has posted.

[M] Trevor - Gay Dad
11-19-2012, 10:58 PM
Wedge;3167637']
Relm;3167617']
Wedge, for example, I honestly have no idea what you're playing at. I do not believe your roleclaim at all, and the excuses you roll out become more ludicrous each time. You can't tell us this, you don't want to tell us that, there's always something to help you out. One thing you haven't said, or considered, as far as I'm aware, is that there maybe a roleblocker of some kind in action? I mean if they had the ability it would make sense for the mafia to roleblock you, seeing as you basically claimed investigative powers on day 2. But instead you've been rolling out excuse after excuse, like you actually need to be excused for your inability to produce anything. I don't like it, and I don't like you.

I never thought for a second that there isn't a possibility of a roleblocker blocking me, there most likely is, however, I won't be able to determine that at all until the person who I chose to send the report to shows up and starts chatting. Also, there is no guarantee that on Night 3 I didn't choose someone who will turn out to be mafia to receive my investigation, so that can hinder town as well. I will be forth coming about who I have investigated and who I have sent those investigations to later when everyone has posted.

And what if people like Rikku or Balthier stay silent and say nothing today? Are you going to withhold everything from us and potentially die in the night and have us unable to work out any details? Before the end of the day (I'd say at least a few hours before the day ends) tell us the results of your night 2 and 3 activities so we can figure out if that info at least leads us to some scum.

[M] Dave Stepdad
11-19-2012, 11:00 PM
I already said I would, but I want to minimize the possibility of anyone turning in a false report as much as possible.

[M] Jeff - Single Dad
11-19-2012, 11:02 PM
I've got a report to share, it was sent to me by Wedge and it states that Wedge is scummier than the filth on the bottom of Don King's shoes.

[M] Kurt - Cool Dad
11-19-2012, 11:03 PM
I am unable to reach a computer right now, this is from my phone. I just thought id share that i did not recieve a report from wedge. ill post more when i can later

[M] Mike - Funny Dad
11-19-2012, 11:04 PM
Blank;3167591']And for that matter, I don't know what the hell is going on with Rydia today

Hunter and hunted, who can say
Which is which on a given day?

[M] Greg - Hot Dad
11-19-2012, 11:05 PM
Oh Refia can you not see?
That we live in a land of villainy
People night killed left and right.
It just isn't right.

But one of the worst scum is Blank.
He murders nightly and has a wank
I cry for him to be lynched I cry for help.
Yet my calls are not answered.

But you Refia you are my light.
So place your vote and let me fight.
And we shall lynch this scummy fool
Hand in hand in a swimming pool

Do you wish this or do you not?
Do you want to save the town?
If you do then join in my vote
And my misery shall be dumped in a moat.

So come Refia do you accept me?
As your town hero to make life an ease.
Or shall you banish this town to misery.

[M] Jeff - Single Dad
11-19-2012, 11:08 PM
I would like to present for your consideration a video which perfectly describes wedge (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jSZbzIHGj8U&t=1m18s).

[M] Trevor - Gay Dad
11-19-2012, 11:11 PM
[M] Luneth
[M] Yuffie
[M] Cid
[M] Rikku
[M] Penelo

Here's the people who haven't posted yet today if I'm currently correct.

Also Wakka and Setzer are bugging me, popping in, saying some stuff, then vanishing. They have been doing this pretty well from the start too. They are flying dangerously low under the radar.

[M] Anise
11-19-2012, 11:13 PM
Refia;3167653'][M] Luneth
[M] Yuffie
[M] Cid
[M] Rikku
[M] Penelo

Here's the people who haven't posted yet today if I'm currently correct.

Also Wakka and Setzer are bugging me, popping in, saying some stuff, then vanishing. They have been doing this pretty well from the start too. They are flying dangerously low under the radar.

Sorry, some of us have jobs and like to sleep.
And no, before someone asks, I haven't been lurking, just got home, and this happened to be the last post when I finished reading todays events.

[M] Mike - Funny Dad
11-19-2012, 11:16 PM
Wakka;3167654']
And no, before someone asks, I haven't been lurking, just got home, and this happened to be the last post when I finished reading todays events.

To which we're all no doubt supposed to think "How delightfully convenient"

[M] Anise
11-19-2012, 11:17 PM
Rydia;3167657']
Wakka;3167654']
And no, before someone asks, I haven't been lurking, just got home, and this happened to be the last post when I finished reading todays events.

To which we're all no doubt supposed to think "How delightfully convenient"
I know, but what can I say. 3:30 is quittin time.

[M] Greg - Hot Dad
11-19-2012, 11:19 PM
Wakka Blanka's a thing to vote forever
Just to be together (Just to be together)
Wakka Blanka's so evil and a bender
A plague on Eyes on Final Fantasy

[M] Anise
11-19-2012, 11:20 PM
Noctis;3167660']Wakka Blanka's a thing to vote forever
Just to be together (Just to be together)
Wakka Blanka's so evil and a bender
A plague on Eyes on Final Fantasy

I liked blank better than zidane.

[M] Greg - Hot Dad
11-19-2012, 11:21 PM
there goes ezy, ezy Rydia
posting in the mafia thread of desire
she says voting for Blank
takes her higher
tryin' to send him to heaven above
but Noctis is dyin' to be loved
dyin' to be loved
he's gonna be livin'so magic
today is forever so he claims
he's talkin' about dyin'
it's so tragic baby
but don't you worry
about it today, we've
got scumdeath comin'
our way
scumdeath comin' our way
EASY RYDIA

[M] Greg - Hot Dad
11-19-2012, 11:22 PM
Wakka;3167662']
Noctis;3167660']Wakka Blanka's a thing to vote forever
Just to be together (Just to be together)
Wakka Blanka's so evil and a bender
A plague on Eyes on Final Fantasy

I liked blank better than zidane.I liked Hitler better than Goebbels but they're still both dicks.

[M] Anise
11-19-2012, 11:24 PM
Noctis;3167665']
Wakka;3167662']
Noctis;3167660']Wakka Blanka's a thing to vote forever
Just to be together (Just to be together)
Wakka Blanka's so evil and a bender
A plague on Eyes on Final Fantasy

I liked blank better than zidane.I liked Hitler better than Goebbels but they're still both dicks.


I hadn't heard of Goebbels till now.

[M] Trevor - Gay Dad
11-19-2012, 11:24 PM
Wakka;3167654']
Refia;3167653'][M] Luneth
[M] Yuffie
[M] Cid
[M] Rikku
[M] Penelo

Here's the people who haven't posted yet today if I'm currently correct.

Also Wakka and Setzer are bugging me, popping in, saying some stuff, then vanishing. They have been doing this pretty well from the start too. They are flying dangerously low under the radar.

Sorry, some of us have jobs and like to sleep.
And no, before someone asks, I haven't been lurking, just got home, and this happened to be the last post when I finished reading todays events.

Ture, but you've been playing this way since day 1. So after 3 days worth of discussion your still popping in and out giving little to no feedback, then vanishing for a while. it's basic scum tactic of flying under the radar.

[M] Anise
11-19-2012, 11:27 PM
Refia;3167668']
Wakka;3167654']
Refia;3167653'][M] Luneth
[M] Yuffie
[M] Cid
[M] Rikku
[M] Penelo

Here's the people who haven't posted yet today if I'm currently correct.

Also Wakka and Setzer are bugging me, popping in, saying some stuff, then vanishing. They have been doing this pretty well from the start too. They are flying dangerously low under the radar.

Sorry, some of us have jobs and like to sleep.
And no, before someone asks, I haven't been lurking, just got home, and this happened to be the last post when I finished reading todays events.

Ture, but you've been playing this way since day 1. So after 3 days worth of discussion your still popping in and out giving little to no feedback, then vanishing for a while. it's basic scum tactic of flying under the radar.
You haven't exactly added an encyclopedia either missy. I can't help if I have things to do, and I'm adding what I can.

[M] Mike - Funny Dad
11-19-2012, 11:27 PM
Noctis;3167663']there goes ezy, ezy Rydia
posting in the mafia thread of desire
she says voting for Blank
takes her higher
tryin' to send him to heaven above
but Noctis is dyin' to be loved
dyin' to be loved
he's gonna be livin'so magic
today is forever so he claims
he's talkin' about dyin'
it's so tragic baby
but don't you worry
about it today, we've
got scumdeath comin'
our way
scumdeath comin' our way
EASY RYDIA

Fun, isn't it?

[M] Ron - Cop Dad
11-19-2012, 11:39 PM
I am so fucking perplexed right now. o_O Noctis' going for me on day 2 was part of what arouse my suspicions in the first place, but for him to go for me this strongly and basically say "listen to me and just lynch Blank!" I seriously, what. I have to leave for work in the next half hour so I won't even be around at the end of the day, so what I have to say is:

Don't do it. Does anyone else find me so suspicious when reading through my posts? If you think I'm the most suspicious person, then okay, vote or me. But if you're doing it just because Noctis is on some campaign to see me dead? Go with your own thoughts and vote for who you think is the most suspicious. Because it's seriously saddening if that's what I get for trying to be expressive today, and it makes no sense. That's all I can say, and if Noctis wants to madly urge lynchity lynch Blank while I'm gone and you go with it, there's nothing I can do. I think I have pretty decent instincts and I think I can be an asset to the town, so I ask you to give me a chance.


##Vote: Faris

Avoiding questions about Galuf, but addresses Noctis's campaign against me? The more I think about it, the more I think it's very much a coincidence that she roleclaimed so early and then supposedly targeted Galuf on all of the nights.

[M] D'Anna
11-19-2012, 11:40 PM
So am I dead or what?