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[M] Mom Host
11-15-2012, 01:12 AM
http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e373/photobucketamazingness/196431_original.png

It was a dark and stormy night. The people of Final Fantasia slept peacefully, blissfully unaware of the horror that was about to begin, kupo. Crime had come to their once happy town, and that crime was murder.

The bodies of [M] Edgar and [M] Zidane (Flavour Victims) were found bloodied almost beyond recognition in the town square, kupo. All of the ladies wept their salty tears, which formed the Great Salt Lake of Esthar. This was such a loss for the townspeople - this was a 7% drop in population, and that meant less funding for town activities.

A meeting was called and the people decided on the only sane course of action. They'd start killing one person every day until the culprits were found.

I was elected overseer to this, and as such, cannot be voted for. I hold the power of execution, but it is up to you to decide who must be sent to the gallows, kupo!

Day One begins now, and will last for 25 hours to give everybody a chance to get their details and join the "fun." Don't like it? My rope is currently free, kupo!

With 25 players, it takes 13 votes to lynch. You must vote, or your vote will count against you.

Good luck, kupo!

Accounts in Play
[M] Noctis - Killed, Night 4 - Bullet Proof Townie played by Psychotic.
[M] Wedge
[M] Biggs - Lynched, Day 5 - Suspicious Townie played by Raebus, replaced by Shattered Dreamer, replaced by Del Murder.
[M] Leon
[M] Leila - Killed, Night 5 - Insane Cop played by Faris.
[M] Refia - Killed, Night 4 - Spy played by Bahamut2000X.
[M] Luneth
[M] Rydia - Killed, Night 7 - Apothecary played by Citizen Bleys.
[M] Kain - Killed, Night 2 - Bus Driver played by Aerith's Knight.
[M] Faris
[M] Galuf - Killed, Night 3 - Mafia Poisoner played by shion and sharkythesharkdogg
[M] Relm - Lynched, Day 6 - Mafia Grifter played by DK.
[M] Setzer - Killed, Night 5 - Mafia Ninja played by Shauna.
[M] Yuffie - Killed, Night 4 - Jack of All Trades played by Madonna.
[M] Cid - Killed, Night 8 - Jailkeeper played by Denmark, replaced by Kalilung.
[M] Laguna - Killed, Night 1 - Doctor played by Del Murder.
[M] Quistis - Killed, Night 2 - Gladiator played by Laddy.
[M] Quina - Killed, Night 2 - Beloved Princess played by Red Mage Coffman, replaced by Del Murder.
[M] Blank - Lynched, Day 4 - Mafia Godfather played by Jojee.
[M] Wakka - Lynched, Day 7 - Mafia Framer played by Hypoallergenic Cactuar, replaced by Shauna.
[M] Rikku - Killed, Night 8 - Gunsmith played by Cim, replaced by Del Murder.
[M] Penelo - Lynched, Day 8 - Mafia Prostitute played by Formalhaut.
[M] Balthier - Killed, Night 6 - Cop played by Freya and My Little Pokey.
[M] Serah - Killed, Night 2 - Governor played by Goldenboko.
[M] Sazh - Lynched, Day 1 - Day Vigilante played by Shattered Dreamer.

[M] Felix
11-15-2012, 01:13 AM
sup bitchzzzzzz

[M] Walter - Smart Dad
11-15-2012, 01:19 AM
Hiya everyone! :jess:

[M] Dee
11-15-2012, 01:23 AM
Why hello there, naughty little students, who needs to stay late for some extra credit? :flirt:

[M] Harry - Dad's Dad
11-15-2012, 01:24 AM
NOOOOOOOOO :crying:

[M] Adama
11-15-2012, 01:24 AM
I have to say, Quistis's avatar image does look very threatening!

Oh, hi everyone!

[M] Dee
11-15-2012, 01:25 AM
Are we...all women? How disappointing. :(

[M] Adama
11-15-2012, 01:28 AM
I guess Final Fantasia has turned into a women's commune.

Of course, we could all be lesbians, in which case, it wouldn't be disappointing at all Quistis!


Edit: So wait, it's daytime now then right? Sorry for being stupid; I will get the hang of this I swear

[M] Felix
11-15-2012, 01:31 AM
I know I am.

[M] Walter - Smart Dad
11-15-2012, 01:32 AM
You're looking mighty fine with that whip there, Quistis. Bet you can't handle this booty. /smug

[M] Mike - Funny Dad
11-15-2012, 01:34 AM
Quistis;3164744']Are we...all women? How disappointing. :(

That's not what you said that time, my pet.

You know what I'm talking about.

[M] Mom Host
11-15-2012, 01:36 AM
I haven't seen this much sexual tension since Band Camp, kupo!

[M] Gaius
11-15-2012, 01:39 AM
I ain't no woman!38006

[M] Mike - Funny Dad
11-15-2012, 01:40 AM
Stiltzkin;3164753']I haven't seen this much sexual tension since Band Camp, kupo!

If I've told you once, I've told you a thousand times: You want the videos, you have to pay like everyone else.

[M] Walter - Smart Dad
11-15-2012, 01:41 AM
Get out of here, runt.

[M] Dee
11-15-2012, 01:49 AM
A man... Oh, Cid. At least you don't look like Robin Williams this time! XD

[M] Harry - Dad's Dad
11-15-2012, 01:54 AM
Cid;3164756']I ain't no woman!38006

We can change that ;)

[M] Gaius
11-15-2012, 01:56 AM
38007

[M] Kurt - Cool Dad
11-15-2012, 01:58 AM
hellooooooo ladies ;)

It's sad that Zidane had to be the flavour victim. I was hoping for another ladies man to sop up all these pawing females. I guess I'll have to tackle them on my own.

[M] Mike - Funny Dad
11-15-2012, 02:00 AM
Him? A ladies man? Surely you jest.

[M] Dee
11-15-2012, 02:01 AM
Balthier;3164769']hellooooooo ladies ;)

It's sad that Zidane had to be the flavour victim. I was hoping for another ladies man to sop up all these pawing females. I guess I'll have to tackle them on my own.
Hngh. :stare:

[M] Harry - Dad's Dad
11-15-2012, 02:02 AM
The "pull my tail" bit was getting old...

[M] Kurt - Cool Dad
11-15-2012, 02:04 AM
It's okay ladies, no need to fight over me. There is enough to go around. Why don't you just calm down and join me for a drink?

http://fc04.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2011/078/e/1/balthier_by_javaphyte-d3c18ds.jpg

Tell me what's bothering you.

[M] Dee
11-15-2012, 02:06 AM
http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc155/shinsupremekai2002/FF%20VIII%20Charactors/Quistis_Trepe.jpg

You go first.

[M] Walter - Smart Dad
11-15-2012, 02:09 AM
Care if I join along, Quistis? Let me get in something appropriate.

http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m8va3zUTYj1rclpuao1_500.png

[M] Dee
11-15-2012, 02:12 AM
Oh dear.

[M] Gaius
11-15-2012, 02:14 AM
Just what in the world is going on here?

Cid like 38008

[M] Mike - Funny Dad
11-15-2012, 02:15 AM
Quistis;3164779']Oh dear.


What, you don't like to share? Tsk, tsk.


Cid;3164780']Just what in the world is going on here?


Don't act like you don't know.

[M] Kurt - Cool Dad
11-15-2012, 02:16 AM
Now ladies, no need to get rough.

[M] Mike - Funny Dad
11-15-2012, 02:18 AM
Balthier;3164782']Now ladies, no need to get rough.

Oh, but there is. Or perhaps you've forgotten the murders? Do you propose that we simply give the killer a timeout until (s)he is truly, truly sorry?

Besides, it's fun.

[M] Dee
11-15-2012, 02:59 AM
If Balthy's the killer, I wouldn't mind giving him a timeout. And damn, will he be sorry. :flirt:

[M] Dave Stepdad
11-15-2012, 03:47 AM
Looks like I made it in time for the fun.

[M] Mom Host
11-15-2012, 03:52 AM
Just over 22 hours of party time left today, kupo! :mog:

[M] Mike - Funny Dad
11-15-2012, 03:57 AM
Do we have a list of all of the [M] accounts?

I'm suspicious of anyone who has not come out to play (and Balthier)

[M] Felix
11-15-2012, 04:09 AM
Rydia;3164824']Do we have a list of all of the [M] accounts?

I'm suspicious of anyone who has not come out to play (and Balthier)

Considering this has been up like two hours, I am not! Everyone will come... in dear time my citizens, in dear time.

[M] Trevor - Gay Dad
11-15-2012, 04:11 AM
Edger and Zidaney-poo, the only real men around here gone. :whimper:

Oh well, I'm more of a ladies kind of gal myself. :flirt:

[M] Gaius
11-15-2012, 04:11 AM
Cid
Serah
Faris
Quistis
Leila
Penelo
Rydia
Balthier
Wedge
16 more (25 total)

[M] Dee
11-15-2012, 04:15 AM
Come in people, there's killing to be had!

[M] Jeff - Single Dad
11-15-2012, 04:15 AM
hello everyone! please treat me kindly. :nibbles:

[M] Trevor - Gay Dad
11-15-2012, 04:17 AM
Relm;3164841']hello everyone! please treat me kindly. :nibbles:

No! Because you always glitched my game! :mad2:

[M] Dee
11-15-2012, 04:20 AM
Relm;3164841']hello everyone! please treat me kindly. :nibbles:

I dunno. You are Relm. :colbert:

[M] Felix
11-15-2012, 04:26 AM
Quistis;3164847']
Relm;3164841']hello everyone! please treat me kindly. :nibbles:

I dunno. You are Relm. :colbert:

And you are but an adulterer! A lynching I would not save from one who whips a child!

[M] Jeff - Single Dad
11-15-2012, 04:32 AM
Refia;3164844']
Relm;3164841']hello everyone! please treat me kindly. :nibbles:

No! Because you always glitched my game! :mad2:

i'm so very sorry. :( i'm not really sure how I can ever make this up to you, however...I am quite the artist. so please accept my small peace offering that I extend to you through the tip of my brush.

http://img833.imageshack.us/img833/4465/refia.jpg

[M] Anise
11-15-2012, 04:36 AM
Hey penelo, wanna come over and... fingerpaint?

[M] Anise
11-15-2012, 04:38 AM
You know what, why don't all the girls come over and fingerpaint with me.

Except you relm. No loli.

[M] Mom Host
11-15-2012, 04:41 AM
Part of the Final Fantasia census information has been released to the public. You are now able to see the names of all current citizens in the first post. Use this information wisely, kupo!

[M] Ron - Cop Dad
11-15-2012, 04:50 AM
Hi, I'm Blank! I was google searching for a photo of myself on the internets but this most disturbing image popped up. :(

What's going on???? :(

Editing! On second thought that might not be appropriate. I thought she was a zombie!!

[M] Eizen
11-15-2012, 04:56 AM
I'm here.

[M] Mom Host
11-15-2012, 04:58 AM
Blank;3164871']Hi, I'm Blank! I was google searching for a photo of myself on the internets but this most disturbing image popped up. :(

What's going on???? :(

Editing! On second thought that might not be appropriate. I thought she was a zombie!!

Thank you for removing the image but keep in mind that editing is against the rules! I'll take care of that in future, kupo! :)

[M] Anise
11-15-2012, 05:00 AM
Galuf;3164872']I'm here.


You can't be part of my hair gel harem either.

[M] Dee
11-15-2012, 05:07 AM
Sorry Wakka; don't do cowlicks.

[M] Walter - Smart Dad
11-15-2012, 05:15 AM
I don't do fingerpainting. :colbert:

[M] Anise
11-15-2012, 05:22 AM
I think you'll change your mind once you see the size of my balls.
XD

[M] Dee
11-15-2012, 06:23 AM
:stare:

[M] Walter - Smart Dad
11-15-2012, 06:46 AM
Word of advice to my fellow townspeople. There shall be no editing in these parts, otherwise you could be seen as doing something scummy if you get caught.

Remember, mama Faris is looking out for you! :bigsmile:

[M] Anise
11-15-2012, 06:50 AM
Quistis;3164922']:stare:

Wakka Wakka!

[M] Gaius
11-15-2012, 07:46 AM
Wakka;3164926']
Quistis;3164922']:stare:

Wakka Wakka!

Waka Waka (This Time for Africa) (The Official 2010 FIFA ... - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pRpeEdMmmQ0)

Yes, edits are a bad thing.

I don't want to start a Day 1 attempt at scumhunting until the majority of participants have posted. Day 1 is always a troutshow of jokeposting anyway. But I'll be back later to see if I can pick up on anything. 38010

[M] Elize
11-15-2012, 07:48 AM
*opening in-character spam post*

[M] Dee
11-15-2012, 07:56 AM
Yay, a fellow comrade.

[M] Elize
11-15-2012, 08:03 AM
##Vote: Quistis

Not so happy to see me now, are you?

[M] Mom Host
11-15-2012, 08:13 AM
About 18 hours to go and there's our first vote, kupo! I wonder what will happen now...

[M] Dee
11-15-2012, 08:39 AM
Now, that's just mean. :colbert:

[M] Athena
11-15-2012, 08:49 AM
Fryd ec ib? E ys Neggi yht E ys hud syvey!

[M] Elize
11-15-2012, 08:49 AM
Do I get a prize for the first vote?

[M] Dee
11-15-2012, 08:52 AM
Re, Neggi. Ruf yna oui dutyo?

[M] Mike - Funny Dad
11-15-2012, 09:19 AM
Rikku;3164963']Fryd ec ib? E ys Neggi yht E ys hud syvey!

##Vote: Rikku

[M] Mom Host
11-15-2012, 09:29 AM
16.5 hours or so remaining.

Here's your tally:
[M] Quistis (1) - Laguna
[M] Rikku (1) - Rydia

There is no prize for first vote, kupo! But if you don't get the most votes, I'll let you live! :mog:

[M] Joe - Army Dad
11-15-2012, 09:44 AM
This crowd is more dangerous than dragons.

*flies off on a bitchin' dragon*

[M] Caprica
11-15-2012, 10:28 AM
Remember that talking is the most important thing we can do, well aside from voting. We can do this, yes we can!

http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lrcdhm8MAi1qf3g9h.jpg

##VOTE: Laguna

The only thing worse than voting wrong is not leaving a record. This vote is arbitrary and helps roll that thing called the ball.

[M] Colette
11-15-2012, 11:15 AM
:party:

[M] Joe - Army Dad
11-15-2012, 11:40 AM
How about we just vote for inactive members at the end of the day, like every smart town that wins in the end does.

[M] Al - Biker Dad
11-15-2012, 11:44 AM
Evening everyone.

Anyone up for some blackjack?

[M] Apollo
11-15-2012, 02:16 PM
I have returned at last.
Let's see what good we can do now then.

[M] Joe - Army Dad
11-15-2012, 02:31 PM
Heh, just noticed that out of everyone here I have the most Gil. Almost enough to buy a tent.. almost.

[M] Trevor - Gay Dad
11-15-2012, 02:34 PM
Kain;3165044']Heh, just noticed that out of everyone here I have the most Gil. Almost enough to buy a tent.. almost.

Or enough to be a mafia boss. :eek:

[M] Felix
11-15-2012, 02:59 PM
Player's Who've Posted
[M] Noctis
[M] Wedge
[M] Biggs
[M] Leon
[M] Leila
[M] Refia
[M] Luneth
[M] Rydia
[M] Kain
[M] Faris
[M] Galuf
[M] Relm
[M] Setzer
[M] Yuffie
[M] Cid
[M] Laguna
[M] Quistis
[M] Quina
[M] Blank
[M] Wakka
[M] Rikku
[M] Penelo
[M] Balthier
[M] Serah
[M] Sazh


My fellow townsfolk, there are four who have yet to post! About 14 hours for voting ballots to be drawn!
##vote: Noctis

[M] Mom Host
11-15-2012, 03:03 PM
Here's your tally:
[M] Quistis (1) - Laguna
[M] Rikku (1) - Rydia
[M] Laguna (1) - Yuffie
[M] Noctis (1) - Serah

Good to see some coordinated voting, ey kupo! This is going to help us reach a decision in the next 11 hours. :mog:

[M] Felix
11-15-2012, 03:05 PM
Whoops, sorry my hour count was off everyone! :)

[M] Joe - Army Dad
11-15-2012, 03:10 PM
Thanks for the overview Serah

##vote: Biggs

Time to coax them out of hiding.



Refia;3165046']
Kain;3165044']Heh, just noticed that out of everyone here I have the most Gil. Almost enough to buy a tent.. almost.

Or enough to be a mafia boss. :eek:

It is in my nature to laugh evilly in response to this, but I feel it wouldn't fit the general atmosphere of a mafia game.

[M] Dave Stepdad
11-15-2012, 03:30 PM
Well, I'm off to work and since I probably won't be back before the days end I will make an arbitrary vote before I go:

[M] Cid

[M] Eizen
11-15-2012, 03:31 PM
##vote: Biggs.

Why does he have yet to show his face?

[M] Dave Stepdad
11-15-2012, 03:31 PM
Whoops ##Vote: [M] Cid

Helps to type it right

[M] Anise
11-15-2012, 03:43 PM
##Vote: Galuf
Because that picture looks like kisuke urahara with a beard. Your in the wrong mafia urahara with a beard!

[M] Elize
11-15-2012, 03:43 PM
##Unvote: Quistis
##Vote: Cid

Ties make things fun. Cid has also not yet referred to his magnificent beard in any of his posts, which is disappointment.

[M] Eizen
11-15-2012, 03:57 PM
Wakka;3165081']##Vote: Galuf
Because that picture looks like kisuke urahara with a beard. Your in the wrong mafia urahara with a beard!

At least I'm not wearing makeup.

:stare:

[M] Mom Host
11-15-2012, 03:59 PM
Well this is certainly more interesting, kupo! I want to see more votes though! Seventeen of you are slackers! More votes, kupo, because I don't want to have to represent the self-votes! :mog:

[M] Biggs (2) - Kain, Galuf
[M] Cid (2) - Wedge, Laguna
[M] Rikku (1) - Rydia
[M] Laguna (1) - Yuffie
[M] Noctis (1) - Serah
[M] Galuf (1) - Wakka
[M] Quistis (0) - Laguna

[M] Al - Biker Dad
11-15-2012, 04:15 PM
Hmm, anyone who doesn't speak English is obviously evil, right?

##Vote: Rikku

She obviously admitted she was mafia in that inane babble!

[M] Dee
11-15-2012, 04:27 PM
Yeah, Quina needs to come out of his/her marsh. ##Vote: Quina

[M] Gaius
11-15-2012, 04:49 PM
Kain;3165000']How about we just vote for inactive members at the end of the day, like every smart town that wins in the end does.

I'm not sure if this is sarcasm or not! It seems a fair strategy for Day 1, at least, since any inactives are definitely not helping town with their inactivity.


Laguna;3165082']Cid has also not yet referred to his magnificent beard in any of his posts, which is disappointment.

Bah! Any beard, even one so beautiful as this, beckons not the blessings of its bearer.

Since we're looking at about 9 more hours I should be able to read through the thread once more before deadline, but just in case I can't: ##Vote: Biggs

[M] Gaius
11-15-2012, 04:59 PM
Also remember that we need a majority vote to lynch! So don't go spreading your votes around, come to some kind of a consensus.

[M] Anise
11-15-2012, 05:00 PM
Cid;3165118']Also remember that we need a majority vote to lynch! So don't go spreading your votes around, come to some kind of a consensus.


To lynch early.

[M] Joe - Army Dad
11-15-2012, 05:03 PM
Cid;3165115']
Kain;3165000']How about we just vote for inactive members at the end of the day, like every smart town that wins in the end does.

I'm not sure if this is sarcasm or not! It seems a fair strategy for Day 1, at least, since any inactives are definitely not helping town with their inactivity.


Not sarcasm. Day 1 is always lynch the inactive and if everyone responds, don't lynch at all. You're never going to end up with a goon kill on day 1 (unless demon dude plays), at least not in my experience. Might as well keep people alive.

[M] Gaius
11-15-2012, 05:08 PM
Wakka;3165119']
Cid;3165118']Also remember that we need a majority vote to lynch! So don't go spreading your votes around, come to some kind of a consensus.


To lynch early.

My mistake.

[M] Mom Host
11-15-2012, 05:19 PM
Kain;3165120']Day 1 is always lynch the inactive and if everyone responds, don't lynch at all.

Just a friendly reminder that someone will be lynched every day, kupo! Just because you all decide to play nicely doesn't mean some of you aren't badguys that need being punished! :mog:


Here is the current vote tally: (Self Votes shown for the top two potential lynchees only, just fyi ;))
[M] Biggs (4) - Kain, Galuf, Cid, SELFVOTE
[M] Rikku (3) - Rydia, Setzer, SELFVOTE
[M] Cid (2) - Wedge, Laguna
[M] Laguna (1) - Yuffie
[M] Noctis (1) - Serah
[M] Galuf (1) - Wakka
[M] Quina (1) - Quistis
[M] Quistis (0) - Laguna

You have just under 9 hours left. I will be ending proceedings exactly 25 hours after the original post, so even if I oversleep just a little, you will all be good little townsfolk and cease your posting, kupo! Not a question, an order. :mog:

Remember to have fun in your search for scumbags!

[M] Walter - Smart Dad
11-15-2012, 05:44 PM
Relm, you can't draw worth trout. I'm sorry, and you call yourself an artist.

##Vote: Relm

[M] Trevor - Gay Dad
11-15-2012, 06:14 PM
##Vote: Quina

Because it looks funny.

[M] Adama
11-15-2012, 06:28 PM
I suppose I should vote, but on day one it's kind of difficult to decide who... I suppose I'll go with ##VOTE: Quina, because she was hoarding Final Fantasia's food anyway. No wonder we had that food shortage!

[M] Jeff - Single Dad
11-15-2012, 06:46 PM
Faris;3165137']Relm, you can't draw worth trout. I'm sorry, and you call yourself an artist.

##Vote: Relm

I'm sorry Faris, did I make you jealous by painting Refia and leaving you out? :( Please allow me to make up for it with this wonderful portrait of you riding your lovely boat being pulled along by your friend Syldra.

http://img28.imageshack.us/img28/3825/farisu.jpg

[M] Felix
11-15-2012, 06:58 PM
Quina and Biggs currently lead the pace at 4 if my calculations are correct. I'd urge the public not to create a lead for them that cannot be overcome if they actually come back and begin posting :) With 7 hours left, we don't want one of us to be killed off because they were inactive at the start, but active at the end of the day. Piling too many votes on a single inactive townsman can do that.

[M] Mike - Funny Dad
11-15-2012, 07:15 PM
Relm;3165159']
I'm sorry Faris, did I make you jealous by painting Refia and leaving you out? :( Please allow me to make up for it with this wonderful portrait of you riding your lovely boat being pulled along by your friend Syldra.


Good job bringing up Syldra's untimely death again.

[M] Jeff - Single Dad
11-15-2012, 07:17 PM
That's why I put him in there as well, so that his legacy will last forever on canvas. HE WILL NEVER BE FORGOTTEN

[M] Walter - Smart Dad
11-15-2012, 07:36 PM
I commend you for your effort to appease me, little Relm, but it's unforgiveable that you spelled my name wrong. For that, I shall leave my vote on you for the rest of the day!

[M] Al - Biker Dad
11-15-2012, 07:41 PM
Poor Relm. She was just trying her best!

[M] Dee
11-15-2012, 08:03 PM
It's okay, Relm. All artistic and academic pursuits should be ecouraged in order to ensure a well-rounded and edccuated youth.

[M] Athena
11-15-2012, 08:30 PM
Quistis;3164965']Re, Neggi. Ruf yna oui dutyo?

E ys famm, Xiecdec. Ruf yna oui?


Setzer;3165097']Hmm, anyone who doesn't speak English is obviously evil, right?

##Vote: Rikku

She obviously admitted she was mafia in that inane babble!

Zicd palyica E ys tevvanahd tuach'd sayh E ys ajem!


<b>##Vote: Setzer</b>

[M] Joe - Army Dad
11-15-2012, 08:35 PM
I'm not going to play this mafia game over again so I can know what she's saying.

[M] Trevor - Gay Dad
11-15-2012, 08:45 PM
Rikku;3165208']
Zicd palyica E ys tevvanahd tuach'd sayh E ys ajem!


But you are an annoying one sweetie.

##Unvote: Quina
##Vote: Rikku

[M] Felix
11-15-2012, 08:56 PM
I swear to god Rikku I am not translating everything you type. In the words of a smart man I was elected to lead. Not to read.

[M] Joe - Army Dad
11-15-2012, 09:05 PM
Serah;3165221']I swear to god Rikku I am not translating everything you type. In the words of a smart man I was elected to lead. Not to read.

Operation giant glass dome?

[M] Athena
11-15-2012, 09:05 PM
Refia;3165214']
Rikku;3165208']
Zicd palyica E ys tevvanahd tuach'd sayh E ys ajem!


But you are an annoying one sweetie.

##Unvote: Quina
##Vote: Rikku


Oui yna y byndo buuban!

You're just jealous because I am cuter than you and you've only been in one game.

[M] Elize
11-15-2012, 09:07 PM
Serah;3165161']Quina and Biggs currently lead the pace at 4 if my calculations are correct. I'd urge the public not to create a lead for them that cannot be overcome if they actually come back and begin posting :) With 7 hours left, we don't want one of us to be killed off because they were inactive at the start, but active at the end of the day. Piling too many votes on a single inactive townsman can do that.
But someone has to be killed. Piling up votes is actually a pretty effective strategy and it tells you something about: the people voting, the people not voting, and the people being voted for.

Let's remember we are not here trying to find reasons not to vote for people. Quite the opposite actually.

Sometimes people won't speak up until their back is against the wall.

[M] Trevor - Gay Dad
11-15-2012, 09:10 PM
Rikku;3165228']
You're just jealous because I am cuter than you and you've only been in one game.

Words hurt missy. :(

[M] Elize
11-15-2012, 09:18 PM
So I love vote flip-flopping but I don't know who to flip for. tbh Rikku doesn't give me a scum vibe. Any suggestions as to who I should change my vote to?

I will give the town 15 minutes to decide.

[M] Adama
11-15-2012, 09:19 PM
Refia;3165232']
Rikku;3165228']
You're just jealous because I am cuter than you and you've only been in one game.

Words hurt missy. :(

Rikku is pushing her luck! Being Penelo, I have just one character dimension: Niceness. And boy and I a stickler for niceness! My fingers itch to revote, but I'll hold off for now. Rikku is great at mixing drinks and cocktails, so I can't kill her off yet until she's shown me how to mix cocktails.

[M] Mike - Funny Dad
11-15-2012, 09:25 PM
Serah;3165221']I swear to god Rikku I am not translating everything you type. In the words of a smart man I was elected to lead. Not to read.

You weren't elected at all.

Around here, being elected is not exactly a crowning achievement.

[M] Felix
11-15-2012, 09:29 PM
Laguna;3165230']
Serah;3165161']Quina and Biggs currently lead the pace at 4 if my calculations are correct. I'd urge the public not to create a lead for them that cannot be overcome if they actually come back and begin posting :) With 7 hours left, we don't want one of us to be killed off because they were inactive at the start, but active at the end of the day. Piling too many votes on a single inactive townsman can do that.
But someone has to be killed. Piling up votes is actually a pretty effective strategy and it tells you something about: the people voting, the people not voting, and the people being voted for.

Let's remember we are not here trying to find reasons not to vote for people. Quite the opposite actually.

Sometimes people won't speak up until their back is against the wall.

Not what I was saying at all! Everyone should vote, but I don't think us getting a single candidate up to say, 8 votes, while the nearest had 4 just because they are inactive might not be a great idea. Getting backed against the wall is being in the lead with about 4 hours left. Getting a huge lead that late is not backed against the wall, it is being buried alive!

We still have not heard from my Noctis, so s/he still gets my vote! I will change it if my vote becomes more critical.

[M] Joe - Army Dad
11-15-2012, 09:29 PM
Rydia;3165244']
Serah;3165221']I swear to god Rikku I am not translating everything you type. In the words of a smart man I was elected to lead. Not to read.

You weren't elected at all.

Around here, being elected is not exactly a crowning achievement.

More like a choker than a crown, really.

[M] Athena
11-15-2012, 09:31 PM
I'm super friendly! How could you vote for me?

[M] Mike - Funny Dad
11-15-2012, 09:32 PM
Serah's already wearing a choker. Look at her avatar.

[M] Elize
11-15-2012, 09:33 PM
Noctis is a character in this game? WTF?

[M] Dee
11-15-2012, 09:36 PM
Well, this got chaotic quickly. ;)

[M] Elize
11-15-2012, 09:37 PM
Have you played mafia before? This is nothing.

[M] Mike - Funny Dad
11-15-2012, 09:38 PM
Rikku;3165252']I'm super friendly! How could you vote for me?

Stop speaking gibberish and I won't vote for you in future rounds. I'll just vote along with my fellow Dirae.

[M] Dee
11-15-2012, 09:39 PM
Laguna;3165258']Have you played mafia before? This is nothing.

Yes, which is why I'm happy. xD

[M] Elize
11-15-2012, 09:45 PM
Well, add to the chaos Quisty.

No one took me up on my offer so I'm going to do the sensible thing and bandwagon Biggs.

##Unvote: Cid
##Vote: Biggs

[M] Joe - Army Dad
11-15-2012, 09:50 PM
Yeaahh... I don't like bandwagons. Not unless someone says something stupid and incriminates themselves.

##unvote: Biggs

##vote: Sazh (Also not here)

[M] Dee
11-15-2012, 09:52 PM
##Unvote: Quina
##Vote: Yuffie

Come out and play.

[M] Caprica
11-15-2012, 10:13 PM
Coming out and playing.

[M] Caprica
11-15-2012, 10:14 PM
Where's the pileup currently? Rikku?

[M] Adama
11-15-2012, 10:16 PM
Laguna;3165255']Noctis is a character in this game? WTF?

Well, on the basis that his game doesn't exist, I suppose he's left homeless in Final Fantasia.

[M] Dee
11-15-2012, 10:18 PM
Fair enough.

##Unvote: Yuffie
##Vote: Sazh

And yes, Rikku seems the likely target, primarily due to her posting in AL Bhed. However, I'd much prefer to go for inactives at this point, because as problematic Rikku's speaking may be, at least she actually is speaking. Besides, she's seemed to lessened a bit.

[M] Elize
11-15-2012, 10:26 PM
I think Rikku posting in Al Bhed is only her acting in character and nothing more. Since mafia don't want to stand out, especially on trigger happy Day 1, I doubt she is guilty of anything serious.

[M] Gaius
11-15-2012, 10:39 PM
I agree with Laguna on the Rikku thing. It is stupidly annoying, but not a reason to suspect any foul play at this stage in the game. Far more likely for scum to be inactive (in the game thread) on Day 1 and I've seen scum coast and go unnoticed before. The safe lynch when we have no information like this is an inactive lynch, in my opinion. At best, you get rid of a scum attempting to coast; at worst, you get rid of an inactive, and thus unhelpful, townie.

[M] Greg - Hot Dad
11-15-2012, 10:41 PM
I wasn't going to post all day. I wasn't going to post any day. Ever. Then I saw that someone had slapped an arbitrary vote on me and by jove I just had to act and hit the post button before it was too late!

[M] Walter - Smart Dad
11-15-2012, 10:43 PM
My, Laguna. All these beautiful women, and you've yet to experience any leg cramps. Want me to help you out with that? /smug

[M] Elize
11-15-2012, 10:43 PM
Cid;3165286']I agree with Laguna on the Rikku thing. It is stupidly annoying, but not a reason to suspect any foul play at this stage in the game. Far more likely for scum to be inactive (in the game thread) on Day 1 and I've seen scum coast and go unnoticed before. The safe lynch when we have no information like this is an inactive lynch, in my opinion. At best, you get rid of a scum attempting to coast; at worst, you get rid of an inactive, and thus unhelpful, townie.
While I tend to agree with that, it's so much more fun to lynch an active player because the best parts of mafia are the 11th hour scramblings of players up against it. But I guess we eventually get to that point no matter what.

[M] Elize
11-15-2012, 10:44 PM
Faris;3165289']My, Laguna. All these beautiful women, and you've yet to experience any leg cramps. Want me to help you out with that? /smug
Um, that's not my leg buddy...

[M] Gaius
11-15-2012, 10:47 PM
Noctis;3165287']I wasn't going to post all day. I wasn't going to post any day. Ever. Then I saw that someone had slapped an arbitrary vote on me and by jove I just had to act and hit the post button before it was too late!

Eh, you woulda just been modkilled anyway. 38012

[M] Greg - Hot Dad
11-15-2012, 10:48 PM
God damnit, this really sucks. All I want to do is never post in this game again and some selfish asshole has still got their vote on me. What the hell has mafia come to when an innocent FF character can't make zero contributions without having the weight of one whole vote hanging around their neck like a proverbial albatross?

I can't even be bothered to go back one page and check who it was to vote for them in vengeance.

[M] Felix
11-15-2012, 10:48 PM
I wouldn't lynch vote for Rikku for her Al Bhed antics, but that didn't mean I wanted to have to deal with it for a full game :shobon: I'm going to try and get a vote tally. I don't exactly know where we are at because I had an errand to run.

[M] Greg - Hot Dad
11-15-2012, 10:52 PM
Serah;3165294']I wouldn't lynch vote for Rikku for her Al Bhed antics, but that didn't mean I wanted to have to deal with it for a full game :shobon: I'm going to try and get a vote tally. I don't exactly know where we are at because I had an errand to run.IT WAS YOU, YOU SON OF A BITCH

##vote: Serah

Ooh la de da look at me voting for an inactive. I'm contributing and being helpful!

I have 1 vote for doing fuck all and you have 1 vote for being useful. Guess being a good player and a valuable member of the town counts for bugger all around here :cool:

[M] Trevor - Gay Dad
11-15-2012, 10:53 PM
Noctis;3165293']God damnit, this really sucks. All I want to do is never post in this game again and some selfish asshole has still got their vote on me. What the hell has mafia come to when an innocent FF character can't make zero contributions without having the weight of one whole vote hanging around their neck like a proverbial albatross?

I can't even be bothered to go back one page and check who it was to vote for them in vengeance.

You should be in your own game first, then you won't get voted on. :bigsmile:

##Unvote: Rikku
##Vote: Sazh

He still hasn't posted yet right? Either way this game needs more young maidens and less grumpy old men.

[M] Gaius
11-15-2012, 10:54 PM
Everyone's equally valuable at this stage of the game!

[M] Anise
11-15-2012, 10:54 PM
Rikku;3165208']
Quistis;3164965']Re, Neggi. Ruf yna oui dutyo?

E ys famm, Xiecdec. Ruf yna oui?


Setzer;3165097']Hmm, anyone who doesn't speak English is obviously evil, right?

##Vote: Rikku

She obviously admitted she was mafia in that inane babble!

Zicd palyica E ys tevvanahd tuach'd sayh E ys ajem!


##Vote: Setzer


Hu, ed sayhc oui'na aqudel.
Aqudel ec zicd uha n yfyo vnus anudel.

[M] Caprica
11-15-2012, 10:55 PM
The Al bhed speak could be a bluff because we all know how stupid it would be to have a quirk as mafia and obviously no mafia would use an annoying quirk but she would know that we know so she is obviously mafia. /vizzini

Sazh already has a vote so that's...two? Sorry I'm sick so I'm not the keenest on making lists right now while reading Walking Dead comics (translated into wutainese obviously).

[M] Jeff - Single Dad
11-15-2012, 10:55 PM
I guess I should vote too. I don't like wakka because he is gross and talks about his balls and stuff and it hurts my innocent and artistic young eyes. :(

##vote: Wakka

[M] Felix
11-15-2012, 10:56 PM
Biggs (4) - Galuf, Cid, Laguna, Serah (my vote)
Rikku (3) - Rydia, Setzer, Refia
Sazh (2) - Kain, Quistis
Cid (1) - Wedge
Laguna (1) - Yuffie
Galuf (1) - Wakka
Quina (1) - Penelo
Relm (1) - Faris
Setzer (1) - Rikku
Serah (1) - Noctis (Hey sexy ;))
Noctis (0) - Serah

I do not want Rikku being lynched for speaking Al-bhed, she is at least here.
##unvote: Noctis
##vote: Biggs

[M] Felix
11-15-2012, 10:56 PM
God damn it more votes since my tally.

[M] Anise
11-15-2012, 10:56 PM
Relm;3165302']I guess I should vote too. I don't like wakka because he is gross and talks about his balls and stuff and it hurts my innocent and artistic young eyes. :(

##vote: Wakka
Playing hard to get wont get a loli into Wakkas paradise.

[M] Greg - Hot Dad
11-15-2012, 11:00 PM
Oh thank god for that. Thank you Serah, I can stop posting now. See you never, folks!

[M] Caprica
11-15-2012, 11:00 PM
guys guys

best idea yet

let's rank final fantasys and kill the people from the worst ranked ones

[M] Gaius
11-15-2012, 11:02 PM
I'm not sure what would happen to me in that case.

[M] Caprica
11-15-2012, 11:04 PM
You're VII even if you try to claim you're from another one and we'll live forever because VII is best.

[M] Felix
11-15-2012, 11:06 PM
Noctis;3165310']Oh thank god for that. Thank you Serah, I can stop posting now. See you never, folks!

Disappear again and I'll turn my eye upon you again.

Updated votecount. Unvoting to force a tie.

##unvote: Biggs

Biggs (3) - Galuf, Cid, Laguna
Sazh (3) - Kain, Quistis, Refia
Rikku (2) - Rydia, Setzer
Cid (1) - Wedge
Laguna (1) - Yuffie
Galuf (1) - Wakka
Quina (1) - Penelo
Relm (1) - Faris
Setzer (1) - Rikku
Serah (1) - Noctis
Wakka (1) - Relm

[M] Greg - Hot Dad
11-15-2012, 11:09 PM
Serah;3165315']Disappear again and I'll turn my eye upon you again.Well hello to you too, Dark Lord Sauron.

[M] Dee
11-15-2012, 11:10 PM
Thanks for the vote count, Serah. How much time do we have left?

As for Laguna, Happy Birthday, Mr. President. :flirt:

[M] Felix
11-15-2012, 11:10 PM
The all seeing of Serahon see's all!

[M] Al - Biker Dad
11-15-2012, 11:11 PM
Wow Noctis was super defensive. :|

And I reject the claims that FFVII is the best! Clearly the one featuring the great Setzer Gabbini is the best.

[M] Felix
11-15-2012, 11:11 PM
~3 hours left.

[M] Joe - Army Dad
11-15-2012, 11:11 PM
Oh man, so many people trying waaay too hard to be quirky. :)

I'm off to bed, and after that work. So I'll see you all on day 2.

*jumps in the air for a 18 hour turn*

[M] Dee
11-15-2012, 11:11 PM
I must agree, Setzer. FFVI is best.

[M] Greg - Hot Dad
11-15-2012, 11:12 PM
Setzer;3165323']Wow Noctis was super defensive. :|
WHAT THE FUCK DID YOU JUST SAY ABOUT ME????

That is it.

I am finding out who your real account is and I am making your life a living hell on this forum.

Fuck you, Setzer. I'm all for fun and games but you've just personally insulted me here.

[M] Caprica
11-15-2012, 11:13 PM
Keep in mind folks that not voting is a vote for yourself. That might feel noble and junk but it really debilitates a town's attempt to corrdinate and ordered. Get out and vote or don't complain when you see the results.

[M] Al - Biker Dad
11-15-2012, 11:16 PM
Calm down! How about a game of cards to destress?

[M] Mike - Funny Dad
11-15-2012, 11:16 PM
As long as the gibberish stays stopped,

##Unvote: Rikku
##Vote Sazh

[M] Jeff - Single Dad
11-15-2012, 11:17 PM
Noctis;3165327']
Setzer;3165323']Wow Noctis was super defensive. :|
WHAT THE smurf DID YOU JUST SAY ABOUT ME????

That is it.

I am finding out who your real account is and I am making your life a living hell on this forum.

smurf you, Setzer. I'm all for fun and games but you've just personally insulted me here.


post reported.

[M] Felix
11-15-2012, 11:19 PM
I'm glad Rikku isn't going to die :) I believe we've heard from everyone other than Biggs and Sazh. I'm going to go ahead and vote to recreate a tie.

##vote: Biggs

Vote Count
Biggs (4) - Galuf, Cid, Laguna, Serah
Sazh (4) - Kain, Quistis, Refia, Rydia
Rikku (1) - Rydia, Setzer
Cid (1) - Wedge
Laguna (1) - Yuffie
Galuf (1) - Wakka
Quina (1) - Penelo
Relm (1) - Faris
Setzer (1) - Rikku
Serah (1) - Noctis
Wakka (1) - Relm

[M] Dee
11-15-2012, 11:22 PM
Come on, Biggs and Sazh. Do you want to die or something? :mad:

[M] Caprica
11-15-2012, 11:23 PM
What a boring uncontested lynch of those two.

##UNVOTE: Laguna
##VOTE: Setzer

[M] Caprica
11-15-2012, 11:25 PM
It's hard to find someone active to lay some pressure on get some talking. Someone might have posted minutes ago but who knows how long they stick around refreshing this tread?

[M] Al - Biker Dad
11-15-2012, 11:26 PM
Has Quina posted yet? S/He is flying under the radar here...

##Unvote: Rikku
##Vote: Quina

(Apologies if you have posted, Quina dear.)

[M] Caprica
11-15-2012, 11:29 PM
I'm more worried about single-post people instead of complete inactives. Sazh and Biggs if they are inactive get replaced or modkilled. If they don't end up dead or replaced but haven't posted then they're active at night and are likely mafia.

Single posters just have to pop up maybe vote and then disappear but aren't at risk for being modkilled or replaced.

[M] Felix
11-15-2012, 11:30 PM
I do not believe Quina has posted yet! I'm a pretty firm believer in lynching an inactive day one. We don't have anything else to go on yet. I will help you get his/her possible attention


##unvote: Biggs
##vote: Quina

Vote Count
Sazh (4) - Kain, Quistis, Refia, Rydia
Biggs (3) - Galuf, Cid, Laguna, Serah
Quina (3) - Penelo, Setzer, Serah
Rikku (1) - Rydia, Setzer
Cid (1) - Wedge
Laguna (1) - Yuffie
Galuf (1) - Wakka
Relm (1) - Faris
Setzer (1) - Rikku
Serah (1) - Noctis
Wakka (1) - Relm

[M] Felix
11-15-2012, 11:31 PM
I'm also OK with going with someone who's posted once, however replacements are often limited. So I wouldn't be so confident that 100% of inactives would get replaced. I'll look through and find some one and done posters though.

[M] Mom Host
11-15-2012, 11:33 PM
Two and a halfish hours remain, kupo! Here's the current voting tally:

Here is the current vote tally:
[M] Sazh (5) - Kain, Quistis, Refia, Rydia, SELFVOTE
[M] Quina (5) - Quistis, Refia, Penelo, Serah, Setzer, Leila, SELFVOTE
[M] Biggs (4) - Kain, Galuf, Cid, Laguna, Serah, Serah, SELFVOTE
[M] Sezter (2) - Rikku, Yuffie
[M] Cid (1) - Wedge, Laguna
[M] Galuf (1) - Wakka
[M] Relm (1) - Faris
[M] Serah (1) - Noctis
[M] Wakka (1) - Relm
[M] Rikku (0) - Rydia, Setzer, Refia
[M] Yuffie (0) - Quistis
[M] Quistis (0) - Laguna
[M] Noctis (0) - Serah
[M] Laguna (0) - Yuffie

[M] Caprica
11-15-2012, 11:33 PM
Kill an active and watch their player take up the helm of an inactive. It's not an unheard of mod decision this early in game.

[M] Felix
11-15-2012, 11:34 PM
One Post Townies
Blank
Luneth
Leon

After them everyone has at least 3.

[M] Mom Host
11-15-2012, 11:34 PM
Let me update those votes quickly, kupo! :mog:

[M] Harry - Dad's Dad
11-15-2012, 11:36 PM
##Vote Quina


It's just so... suspicious looking and silent.

[M] Felix
11-15-2012, 11:36 PM
I'm not going to make an assumptions on how Stilzkin will be modding this game. The town has the power of the lynch and the brains of the posters, that is all we got we should use them wisely. I think we can weed out scum if they are posting which is why I didn't want Rikku being killed. Blank, Luneth, Leon, Biggs, Sazh, or Quina need to go Day 1 because they are not posting. I would make a move on someone with 1 post if I can have some people with me.

[M] Dee
11-15-2012, 11:37 PM
Hmm. So it's 5-5. Whelp, you guys better come out and play. :monster:

[M] Mom Host
11-15-2012, 11:38 PM
Vote tallies are now current, kupo! :mog: Gosh things move fast~

[M] Mom Host
11-15-2012, 11:38 PM
Smurf you Leila :aimmad: Vote counts are now current as of Leila's post. :mog:

[M] Dee
11-15-2012, 11:39 PM
I have no issue with taking out a one-voter, but I fail to see why they should be taken out instead of an inactive player.

[M] Caprica
11-15-2012, 11:40 PM
Killing a town on Day 1 saves mafia one more night's work. How often does stringing up inactives work out? I'd rather like to see people fighting to see who gets killed Day 1 instead of everyone agreeing on someone who doesn't/can't argue and then not posting.

Anyone want to help me hang Setzer or do I have to pick a more controversial target?

[M] Elize
11-15-2012, 11:42 PM
Too many damn players in this game.

My vote is now boring so I will make it interesting.

##Unvote: Biggs
##Vote: Setzer

Voting inactives is ok strategy, but usually the 100% inactives are not scum, just people without time. The true scum are the ones who make 1-3 posts, keeping active but under the radar.

[M] Elize
11-15-2012, 11:43 PM
Yuffie;3165358']Anyone want to help me hang Setzer or do I have to pick a more controversial target?
I'm on board with you Yuffs. Let's light this place up.

[M] Felix
11-15-2012, 11:43 PM
Yuffie, you say that as if we lynching an active member day one actually gives the potential to yield better results. I don't believe it does. What do you have that makes you think Setzer is mafia?

[M] Dee
11-15-2012, 11:45 PM
Yuffie;3165358']Killing a town on Day 1 saves mafia one more night's work. How often does stringing up inactives work out? I'd rather like to see people fighting to see who gets killed Day 1 instead of everyone agreeing on someone who doesn't/can't argue and then not posting.

Anyone want to help me hang Setzer or do I have to pick a more controversial target?
Looks like it's time to argue.

All I'm saying is that there is little to no point in going after a one-voter for any reason that an inactive wouldn't qualify for.

As for stringing up inactives, it has worked before. I fail to see the whole mafia=active theory that had always existed. If we're going for someone known for relative silence, whether it be a one-voter or an inactive, we shouldn't be reasoning as why one's behavior would be more suspicious.

[M] Dee
11-15-2012, 11:46 PM
Voting inactives is ok strategy, but usually the 100% inactives are not scum, just people without time. The true scum are the ones who make 1-3 posts, keeping active but under the radar.
I fail to see how this applies. If someone doesn't have time to play, their allegiance is irrelevant to their inactivity.

[M] Felix
11-15-2012, 11:47 PM
##unvote:
##vote: Galuf

Three posts, 1 vote, piled on an inactive. If we're going for someone who at least showed up and hoping people who will not make it will be replaced he is a much better choice than Setzer.

[M] Harry - Dad's Dad
11-15-2012, 11:50 PM
Stiltzkin;3165356']Smurf you Leila :aimmad: Vote counts are now current as of Leila's post. :mog:

:aimkiss: I'm just too fast for you.

[M] Ron - Cop Dad
11-15-2012, 11:51 PM
I'm sorry about the edit, I didn't know. Really really sorry about the picture, I feel embarassed. :sweat: < trying to find an embarrassed smiley, bugger it. And sorry I've been inactive! I don't have a lot of time today and there's so many new posts, you guys should make a 48 hour day. But I'm done apologizing now and hopefully won't have to anymore!

##vote: Galuf

He was the first person to bandwagon in the game when there were plenty of other inactive to vote for too.

[M] Dee
11-15-2012, 11:51 PM
Leila;3165369']
Stiltzkin;3165356']Smurf you Leila :aimmad: Vote counts are now current as of Leila's post. :mog:

:aimkiss: I'm just too fast for you.
These innuendos are awesome. :D

[M] Ron - Cop Dad
11-15-2012, 11:51 PM
BAH Serah got there before me. See, not editing! :D

[M] Caprica
11-15-2012, 11:54 PM
Serah;3165362']Yuffie, you say that as if we lynching an active member day one actually gives the potential to yield better results. I don't believe it does. What do you have that makes you think Setzer is mafia?What made you think I think Setzer's mafia? I'm looking around with a spotlight and seeing what it picks up. ;D


Quistis;3165363']
Yuffie;3165358']Killing a town on Day 1 saves mafia one more night's work. How often does stringing up inactives work out? I'd rather like to see people fighting to see who gets killed Day 1 instead of everyone agreeing on someone who doesn't/can't argue and then not posting.

Anyone want to help me hang Setzer or do I have to pick a more controversial target?
Looks like it's time to argue.

All I'm saying is that there is little to no point in going after a one-voter for any reason that an inactive wouldn't qualify for.

As for stringing up inactives, it has worked before. I fail to see the whole mafia=active theory that had always existed. If we're going for someone known for relative silence, whether it be a one-voter or an inactive, we shouldn't be reasoning as why one's behavior would be more suspicious.There's little to judge about inactives and nothing gained in killing all inactives if there is one mafia pretending to be inert. The net loss is too high.


Quistis;3165364']
Voting inactives is ok strategy, but usually the 100% inactives are not scum, just people without time. The true scum are the ones who make 1-3 posts, keeping active but under the radar.
I fail to see how this applies. If someone doesn't have time to play, their allegiance is irrelevant to their inactivity.It does McFly. An inactive town is still one more person for mafia to kill whether they do it at night or not. It doesnt matter if they're here or not but that they need to be dead for mafia to win.

[M] Caprica
11-15-2012, 11:55 PM
Serah;3165366']##unvote:
##vote: Galuf

Three posts, 1 vote, piled on an inactive. If we're going for someone who at least showed up and hoping people who will not make it will be replaced he is a much better choice than Setzer.Useless. Galuf is not here either and thus no conversation. Is he a better choice than a complete inactive? Not a clue.

[M] Caprica
11-15-2012, 11:57 PM
Blank;3165370']I'm sorry about the edit, I didn't know. Really really sorry about the picture, I feel embarassed. :sweat: < trying to find an embarrassed smiley, bugger it. And sorry I've been inactive! I don't have a lot of time today and there's so many new posts, you guys should make a 48 hour day. But I'm done apologizing now and hopefully won't have to anymore!

##vote: Galuf

He was the first person to bandwagon in the game when there were plenty of other inactive to vote for too.A bandwagon vote itself. I like.

[M] Athena
11-15-2012, 11:57 PM
I can't really think of anyone who should be lynched on day one, so I am not sure I am going to use my vote this round! :kaoyatta:

##Unvote: Setzer

[M] Elize
11-15-2012, 11:58 PM
Quistis;3165364']I fail to see how this applies. If someone doesn't have time to play, their allegiance is irrelevant to their inactivity.
That is definitely true. Which means they are no more likely of being mafia than town. In fact, they are more likely of being town since the majority of players are generally town-aligned. It's pretty much a crap shoot with low odds.

Of course, if you are just voting them out because the game is more fun with active players then I'm down with that.

[M] Dee
11-16-2012, 12:00 AM
There's little to judge about inactives and nothing gained in killing all inactives if there is one mafia pretending to be inert. The net loss is too high.Then why go after a one-voter? Besides, a large amount of inactives can be extremely dangerous for the town. Towards the endgame, an inactive town will be destroyed if the mafia has the voting power due to the town not being able to establish any sort of bloc. While we shouldn't slay inactive indiscriminately, it's certainly worth trying to weed them out if possible.


An inactive town is still one more person for mafia to kill whether they do it at night or not. It doesnt matter if they're here or not but that they need to be dead for mafia to win.Of course. But this applies to everyone. Active people can at least use their powers.

[M] Elize
11-16-2012, 12:01 AM
Rikku;3165378']I can't really think of anyone who should be lynched on day one, so I am not sure I am going to use my vote this round! :kaoyatta:

##Unvote: Setzer
The Al Bhed didn't get to me, but this does. Not voting is probably the worst thing a townsperson can do, and for a mafia it doesn't make much difference.

##Unvote: Setzer
##Vote: Rikku

[M] Caprica
11-16-2012, 12:01 AM
Laguna;3165380']
Quistis;3165364']I fail to see how this applies. If someone doesn't have time to play, their allegiance is irrelevant to their inactivity.
That is definitely true. Which means they are no more likely of being mafia than town. In fact, they are more likely of being town since the majority of players are generally town-aligned. It's pretty much a crap shoot with low odds.

Of course, if you are just voting them out because the game is more fun with active players then I'm down with that.I'm not because it's easy lazy and scummy. I'd rather an active's blood be on my hands and know he was town and his heart was in the right place than let us kill (and keep killing) people who give nothing. Everything they've argued is then important and you can see who they talked to or avoided. Granted that's not much info on Day 1 to work with but it will help us in the future.

[M] Felix
11-16-2012, 12:01 AM
Yuffie;3165373']
Serah;3165362']Yuffie, you say that as if we lynching an active member day one actually gives the potential to yield better results. I don't believe it does. What do you have that makes you think Setzer is mafia?What made you think I think Setzer's mafia? I'm looking around with a spotlight and seeing what it picks up. ;D


Quistis;3165363']
Yuffie;3165358']Killing a town on Day 1 saves mafia one more night's work. How often does stringing up inactives work out? I'd rather like to see people fighting to see who gets killed Day 1 instead of everyone agreeing on someone who doesn't/can't argue and then not posting.

Anyone want to help me hang Setzer or do I have to pick a more controversial target?
Looks like it's time to argue.

All I'm saying is that there is little to no point in going after a one-voter for any reason that an inactive wouldn't qualify for.
There's little to judge about inactives and nothing gained in killing all inactives if there is one mafia pretending to be inert. The net loss is too high.


Quistis;3165364'][quote=Laguna]Voting inactives is ok strategy, but usually the 100% inactives are not scum, just people without time. The true scum are the ones who make 1-3 posts, keeping active but under the radar.
I fail to see how this applies. If someone doesn't have time to play, their allegiance is irrelevant to their inactivity.It does McFly. An inactive town is still one more person for mafia to kill whether they do it at night or not. It doesnt matter if they're here or not but that they need to be dead for mafia to win.

I just assumed you wouldn't so directly contradict yourself Yuffie. :D

[M] Dee
11-16-2012, 12:01 AM
Of course, if you are just voting them out because the game is more fun with active players then I'm down with that.This isn't a game; it's life. :stare:


Which means they are no more likely of being mafia than town. In fact, they are more likely of being town since the majority of players are generally town-aligned. It's pretty much a crap shoot with low odds.As is every vote. However, I'd rather play with people whose actions I can appropriately judge. With all due respect, I have faith in my abilities to call out bullshit.

[M] Felix
11-16-2012, 12:02 AM
Quote was accidentally broken, but I don't want to edit it! You all get the picture

[M] Dee
11-16-2012, 12:05 AM
Serah, that post is ugly. You should be ashamed. :stare:

[M] Felix
11-16-2012, 12:06 AM
I'll just get naked like that post to make up for it ;)

[M] Mom Host
11-16-2012, 12:06 AM
Around 2 hours to go, kupo! Here are the current votes:
[M] Sazh (5) - Kain, Quistis, Refia, Rydia, SELFVOTE
[M] Quina (4) - Quistis, Refia, Penelo, Serah, Setzer, Leila, SELFVOTE
[M] Biggs (3) - Kain, Galuf, Cid, Laguna, Serah, Serah, SELFVOTE
[M] Galuf (3) - Wakka, Serah, Blank
[M] Rikku (2) - Rydia, Setzer, Refia, Laguna, SELF VOTE
[M] Sezter (1) - Rikku, Yuffie, Laguna
[M] Cid (1) - Wedge, Laguna
[M] Relm (1) - Faris
[M] Serah (1) - Noctis
[M] Wakka (1) - Relm
[M] Yuffie (0) - Quistis
[M] Quistis (0) - Laguna
[M] Noctis (0) - Serah
[M] Laguna (0) - Yuffie

[M] Elize
11-16-2012, 12:06 AM
Quistis;3165387']As is every vote.
Not really. Sure you never know what the person is until the flip, but at least by voting for people with posts you can make an educated guess. Voting for someone who has presented no evidence is by definition an uneducated guess.

Splitting hairs here. If you'd want to discuss this more I will refer you to my book, Silent Mafia: Inactive Voting and It's Role In Modern Voting Theory.

[M] Caprica
11-16-2012, 12:07 AM
Quistis;3165382']Then why go after a one-voter? Besides, a large amount of inactives can be extremely dangerous for the town. Towards the endgame, an inactive town will be destroyed if the mafia has the voting power due to the town not being able to establish any sort of bloc. While we shouldn't slay inactive indiscriminately, it's certainly worth trying to weed them out if possible.One-voter/posters are still active and have to be to avoid being modkiled/replaced. Come on McFly, that means they have a reason to be alive and thus are doing things in the shadows. Mafia and rookie cops do that. (a real cop would keep the discussion flowing and find some suspicions to work on)


Quistis;3165382']
An inactive town is still one more person for mafia to kill whether they do it at night or not. It doesnt matter if they're here or not but that they need to be dead for mafia to win.Of course. But this applies to everyone. Active people can at least use their powers.Not everyone, just town. Mafia doesn't have to kill themselves. If you have two inactives and one's a mob, do you get him on the first try? Or you down two town (remember night kill) before you get your man? What if there are more inactives? I gotta read the rules, but I hope our mods don't allow inactives to idle.

[M] Dee
11-16-2012, 12:10 AM
Laguna;3165393']
Quistis;3165387']As is every vote.
Not really. Sure you never know what the person is until the flip, but at least by voting for people with posts you can make an educated guess. Voting for someone who has presented no evidence is by definition an uneducated guess.
Mathematically, yes, the chances for someone to a townie is much higher.

However, this is Day 1. We've had a lack of suspicious behavior up to this point, so I'm more comfortable voting for someone I'm unsure we'll ever be able to use the skills of.

I see your book and raise you mine, The Ghost Town: A City With No One TO Use It.

[M] Felix
11-16-2012, 12:11 AM
There have been plenty of examples of silent townies and laying low mafia dooming towns. Want me to go LOOK IT UP?

[M] Caprica
11-16-2012, 12:12 AM
Quistis;3165387']
Which means they are no more likely of being mafia than town. In fact, they are more likely of being town since the majority of players are generally town-aligned. It's pretty much a crap shoot with low odds.As is every vote. However, I'd rather play with people whose actions I can appropriately judge. With all due respect, I have faith in my abilities to call out bulltrout.But you can't judge people when Person A voted on inactive Person B. What does it tell you? Nothing because B never said jack, you can't infer if B said something to make someone upset, and clearly B was never close to closing the investigation since he never did jack crap. Person A could be a great townie, great scum, and you'd never be able to draw any conclusions from B's death.

[M] Dee
11-16-2012, 12:13 AM
One-voter/posters are still active and have to be to avoid being modkiled/replaced. Come on McFly, that means they have a reason to be alive and thus are doing things in the shadows. Mafia and rookie cops do that. (a real cop would keep the discussion flowing and find some suspicions to work on)
Having a purpose and fulfilling it are not the same thing. I fail to see why someone's activity should be linked to their alignment. And going by your logic, why risk a cop, even if they are a rookie?


Not everyone, just town. Mafia doesn't have to kill themselves. If you have two inactives and one's a mob, do you get him on the first try? Or you down two town (remember night kill) before you get your man? What if there are more inactives? I gotta read the rules, but I hope our mods don't allow inactives to idle.
I'm not sure what you mean.

[M] Caprica
11-16-2012, 12:13 AM
Well then I hope all the active mafia suddenly stop posting and use the silent treatment to avoid me 'cause that wold fool me.

[M] Dee
11-16-2012, 12:18 AM
Call your tits, people. :stare:


There have been plenty of examples of silent townies and laying low mafia dooming towns. Want me to go LOOK IT UP?Well, of course their has. But I can give various sample of people either a)remaining inactive or B)being totally inactive mafia. Do you want me to look it up?


Well then I hope all the active mafia suddenly stop posting and use the silent treatment to avoid me 'cause that wold fool me.
Again, I'm not quite sure what you mean.

[M] Caprica
11-16-2012, 12:18 AM
Bleagh been going over the rules and nothing about being a dirty inactive. Lame lame lame. You're letting me down, non-posters.

[M] Felix
11-16-2012, 12:19 AM
Yuffie;3165398']
Quistis;3165387']
Which means they are no more likely of being mafia than town. In fact, they are more likely of being town since the majority of players are generally town-aligned. It's pretty much a crap shoot with low odds.As is every vote. However, I'd rather play with people whose actions I can appropriately judge. With all due respect, I have faith in my abilities to call out bulltrout.But you can't judge people when Person A voted on inactive Person B. What does it tell you? Nothing because B never said jack, you can't infer if B said something to make someone upset, and clearly B was never close to closing the investigation since he never did jack crap. Person A could be a great townie, great scum, and you'd never be able to draw any conclusions from B's death.

This is EXACTLY why inactives are lynched early. You have nothing to go on Day 1. Later on mafia can trip up and contradict themselves if they post, if they don't the can just lie low and dodge the bullet. It happens all the time.

I remember Auron from Mafia V said very little and had no suspicion on him, town got lucky he got shot.

[M] Caprica
11-16-2012, 12:20 AM
They are all words, Quistis, and follow the conversation.

I've noticed a dearth of voting. Are we going with the current count?

[M] Walter - Smart Dad
11-16-2012, 12:20 AM
Yuffie;3165394']
Quistis;3165382']Then why go after a one-voter? Besides, a large amount of inactives can be extremely dangerous for the town. Towards the endgame, an inactive town will be destroyed if the mafia has the voting power due to the town not being able to establish any sort of bloc. While we shouldn't slay inactive indiscriminately, it's certainly worth trying to weed them out if possible.One-voter/posters are still active and have to be to avoid being modkiled/replaced. Come on McFly, that means they have a reason to be alive and thus are doing things in the shadows. Mafia and rookie cops do that. (a real cop would keep the discussion flowing and find some suspicions to work on)


Quistis;3165382']
An inactive town is still one more person for mafia to kill whether they do it at night or not. It doesnt matter if they're here or not but that they need to be dead for mafia to win.Of course. But this applies to everyone. Active people can at least use their powers.Not everyone, just town. Mafia doesn't have to kill themselves. If you have two inactives and one's a mob, do you get him on the first try? Or you down two town (remember night kill) before you get your man? What if there are more inactives? I gotta read the rules, but I hope our mods don't allow inactives to idle.

You don't have to worry your cute little ninja patooty, Yuffie. Inactives on day 1 usually pick up their slack in the following days, provided they survive to that point.

[M] Felix
11-16-2012, 12:21 AM
@Quistis: My point is there is no direct link between activity and alignment as previously said, but active members we can deduce things from later on, inactives we cannot.

[M] Caprica
11-16-2012, 12:21 AM
Serah;3165397']There have been plenty of examples of silent townies and laying low mafia dooming towns. Want me to go LOOK IT UP?


Yuffie;3165400']Well then I hope all the active mafia suddenly stop posting and use the silent treatment to avoid me 'cause that wold fool me.There, pairing that one up. I really don't think the mafia is going to play quietly.

[M] Dee
11-16-2012, 12:22 AM
Call your tits, people.
Best typo ever?


This is EXACTLY why inactives are lynched early. You have nothing to go on Day 1. Later on mafia can trip up and contradict themselves if they post, if they don't the can just lie low and dodge the bullet. It happens all the time.Fair enough, but I still fail to see why we assume no-voters are town.

[M] Felix
11-16-2012, 12:24 AM
Quistis;3165412']
Call your tits, people.
Best typo ever?


This is EXACTLY why inactives are lynched early. You have nothing to go on Day 1. Later on mafia can trip up and contradict themselves if they post, if they don't the can just lie low and dodge the bullet. It happens all the time.Fair enough, but I still fail to see why we assume no-voters are town.


Serah;3165408']@Quistis: My point is there is no direct link between activity and alignment as previously said, but active members we can deduce things from later on, inactives we cannot.

We can't.

[M] Caprica
11-16-2012, 12:24 AM
Odds? Inactives are probably mostly town. I don't know what ploy the mafia are going with, but one inactive/quiet guy and a few actives is generally a good bet.

[M] Dee
11-16-2012, 12:25 AM
Fair point.

[M] Dee
11-16-2012, 12:26 AM
Yuffie;3165416']Odds? Inactives are probably mostly town. I don't know what ploy the mafia are going with, but one inactive/quiet guy and a few actives is generally a good bet.
Mafia changes tactics all the time and they will often go in with a set strategy, so we should never assume what they're planning.

[M] Felix
11-16-2012, 12:26 AM
Yuffie;3165416']Odds? Inactives are probably mostly town. I don't know what ploy the mafia are going with, but one inactive/quiet guy and a few actives is generally a good bet.

Most players are mostly town, town starts of with a majority after all.

[M] Jeff - Single Dad
11-16-2012, 12:31 AM
http://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/370_94024365367_5826_n.jpg

[M] Caprica
11-16-2012, 12:32 AM
One thing that kills me about EoFF mafia games is how mafia can use their forum whenever, not just night.

[M] Mom Host
11-16-2012, 12:32 AM
Yuffie;3165406']
I've noticed a dearth of voting. Are we going with the current count?

I don't know what you're trying to imply, kupo! The vote count is accurate as of your post, and probably this one! :mog:

In there interest of fair play and enjoyment, inactive players will be replaced. There are no rules against posting minimally as arbitrary posting requirements rarely work and eliminate my favourite part of the game which is watching you guys flop about like madmen shouting "inactive, inactive! Under the radar, lurking!" :mog: Seriously though, it's Day 1, kupo. This is the greatest Day 1 ratio of posters-nonposters I think I've ever seen. Day 2 will probably bring your remaining friends into the fray!

[M] Caprica
11-16-2012, 12:33 AM
Are we not going to openly discuss the possibility of Jester because that's too easy.

[M] Walter - Smart Dad
11-16-2012, 12:35 AM
Oh my, I'm mistaken about you, Relm. That's a brilliant painting. Who would that be? It looks oddly like a certain pervert named Balthier.

I may have second thoughts about my promise to keep my vote on you.

[M] Caprica
11-16-2012, 12:35 AM
I was talking to the rest of town. Are we happy with how we've voted? We had a lot of talking, but no one changed votes or did anything terribly rash.

[M] Gaius
11-16-2012, 12:36 AM
Jester has no place in a 25 person game.

[M] Jeff - Single Dad
11-16-2012, 12:40 AM
It's actually a painting of Don Corneo, Faris. Balthier is not fit to lick the scum off of the Don's lady killing boots. :love:

[M] Elize
11-16-2012, 12:43 AM
Yuffie;3165421']One thing that kills me about EoFF mafia games is how mafia can use their forum whenever, not just night.
Yep, and that's always been a huge advantage. They can coordinate their posts and votes throughout the day, which is why we need to mix things up as much as possible to keep them guessing.

That's why I'm calling for a random massive pile-on Relm for no reason other than hurting my eyes.

##Unvote: Rikku
##Vote: Relm

[M] Walter - Smart Dad
11-16-2012, 12:44 AM
I can actually see the resemblence! I should've known! :love:

[M] Gaius
11-16-2012, 12:45 AM
And I'm personally all for voting an inactive Day 1. We have a low chance of hitting scum with the minimal information we currently have. Not participating (being inactive) is not conducive to helping the town win, as far as I'm concerned. This is Day 1 as usual.

How much time left?

[M] Elize
11-16-2012, 12:46 AM
10 minutes.

[M] Jeff - Single Dad
11-16-2012, 12:48 AM
Laguna;3165430']
Yuffie;3165421']One thing that kills me about EoFF mafia games is how mafia can use their forum whenever, not just night.

Yep, and that's always been a huge advantage. They can coordinate their posts and votes throughout the day, which is why we need to mix things up as much as possible to keep them guessing.

That's why I'm calling for a random massive pile-on Relm for no reason other than hurting my eyes.

##Unvote: Rikku
##Vote: Relm

you're just jealous of the Don's easy charm with the ladies as opposed to your stanky leg acting up any time you get within 30 feet of a pretty one. don't take it out on me. get yourself a wheelchair like Cloud had in VII when he drank too much lifestream and turned into a mong and it'll all work out for you eventually. :shobon:

[M] Elize
11-16-2012, 12:48 AM
Or over an hour. I guess I've been using the Zozo clock.

[M] Mom Host
11-16-2012, 12:49 AM
Laguna;3165430']
That's why I'm calling for a random massive pile-on Relm for no reason other than hurting my eyes.


:stare: It would make my job harder, kupo. I'm going to slap you with my pom pom. :mog:

1 hour 20 minutes remaining.

[M] Anise
11-16-2012, 12:50 AM
Stomach hurts, going to bed, will read results tommorrow.

[M] Felix
11-16-2012, 12:50 AM
I'm fine with an inactive getting the lynch, Galuf is a better target in my opinion, but we'll see what happens.

[M] Gaius
11-16-2012, 12:50 AM
I keep thinking Laguna is Jiro because of the avatar.

[M] Elize
11-16-2012, 12:55 AM
Cid;3165443']I keep thinking Laguna is Jiro because of the avatar.
Now that would be a mindsmurf. :P

[M] Walter - Smart Dad
11-16-2012, 01:12 AM
And don't get me confused with the member Faris. Actually, that would be just as much a mindfuck as Laguna being Jiro.

[M] Dee
11-16-2012, 01:20 AM
I got stuff to do so I won't be back until the end of the day. See you guys later!