"Guilty pleasures" is a BS concept

[Citizen Bleys]

It has come to my attention that the idea of a guilty pleasure is outmoded and rubbish. There are no guilty pleasures, only things that you do and do not like. If you like something, but are ashamed of it, that does not mean you have a guilty pleasure, it means you are an idiot.

We're living in a world where grown-ass adults openly laud Harry Potter, a series of children's books. Those of you of legal drinking age who sensibly do not give a rodent's hindquarter's about HP or any other children's entertainment most likely do not think any less of those who display the poor taste of approving of it on account of the fact that if you did, you would be depriving yourself of the company of scores of otherwise sensible individuals. Why, then, would you feel shame in enjoying...really...anything.

It's time to shed all of that incondign shame. What you like, you like. It's part of you. Stop pretending and start behaving like sane human beings.

[Raistlin]

I don't consider a guilty pleasure something to be ashamed of, as I long ago lost the ability to have shame (and who gives a smurf what other people think anyway). To me, a guilty pleasure is simply something you like, while at the same time you are capable of recognizing how bad it is.

Smallville, for example, was my guilty pleasure TV show for a while. I enjoyed it (at times, anyway), and I freely admit it, but I was able to recognize on an intellectual level that the show was not exactly top-notch quality.

But I do agree that no one should be ashamed of liking anything (except Twilight, pineapple on pizza, well done steak, and calling soda "pop"). So maybe we don't need to get rid of the "guilty pleasure" concept, but just eliminate one of its definitions.

[Tigmafuzz]

There are no guilty pleasures, only things that you do and do not like. If you like something, but are ashamed of it, that does not mean you have a guilty pleasure, it means you are an idiot.

The pedophiles will be so glad to hear that they have no reason to be ashamed of liking child porn!

[maybee]

There are no guilty pleasures, only things that you do and do not like. If you like something, but are ashamed of it, that does not mean you have a guilty pleasure, it means you are an idiot.

The pedophiles will be so glad to hear that they have no reason to be ashamed of liking child porn!

That's not a guilty pleasure. That's being a smurfing disgusting worm that should be in jail. There's a slight difference between liking something that's unpopular and being a downright creeper. :stare:

[Crop]

I always took the term "Guilty Pleasure" a lot more lighthearted and fun than how you seem to be saying it. I don't think of it as something people are ashamed of, more like a tongue in cheek kind of ashamed.

[Citizen Bleys]

The pedophiles will be so glad to hear that they have no reason to be ashamed of liking child porn!

That isn't a guilty pleasure, but it is how I will be misinterpreting the term from now on.

Random Person: What's your guilty pleasure?
Me: I quite like murdering prostitutes.

[Forsaken Lover]

My guilty pleasure is grand theft. I feel so bad when I'm stealing all those TVs and stuff but then i get them home and I feel better.

[Jiro]

It's the only way to get your money back!

No I don't know, I like the term guilty pleasure because it means I have an excuse when people tell me that what I like is shit :monster:

[Citizen Bleys]

My only reaction when someone says that what I like is trout is to inform them that they are wrong.

[Forsaken Lover]

That's more than likely why the term was invented.

A guy was chatting with some other guys and admitted he really liked...I dunno, some hair metal or girl group band. Then when his pals started ripping into him he said "well I don't REALLY like it. It's just..a guilty pleasure."

It's how I always justify liking t.A.T.u..

[Citizen Bleys]

You like something or you don't like it. Stop equivocating.

[Jiro]

Yeah smurf you guys I like what I like

[Tigmafuzz]

What if I like referring to things as being guilty pleasures?

[Citizen Bleys]

Then you're wrong and people that wrong go to Hell

[TrollHunter]

I don't know, worshiping satan is just a small guilty please of mine.
While cheesy, it can be really fun at times!

[Jiro]

Pissing Bleys off is generally not the best way to go about life.

[Tigmafuzz]

Pissing Bleys off is generally not the best way to go about life.

I know, but it's just... a guilty pleasure.

[Kossage]

It's time to shed all of that incondign shame. What you like, you like. It's part of you. Stop pretending and start behaving like sane human beings.

I agree with this (what you like, you like, and you shouldn't feel ashamed about it), but I have to say that there are times where one can't either like or not like something. There are times when you feel you should dislike something but find that you actually enjoy parts of it even if the rest of it is awful.

Case in point, I would say Pirates of the Caribbean soundtracks. I have various reasons for disliking them, but there are still a few somewhat redeemable things (e.g. some of the melodies) about them that I find myself enjoying despite it being almost paradoxical in a way. This is what, in my view, I'd call a "guilty pleasure". :)

[Madame Adequate]

pineapple on pizza

:stare:

[Tigmafuzz]

pineapple on pizza

:stare:

[NeoCracker]

Your moms a bullshit concept.

[Citizen Bleys]

Case in point, I would say Pirates of the Caribbean soundtracks. I have various reasons for disliking them, but there are still a few somewhat redeemable things (e.g. some of the melodies) about them that I find myself enjoying despite it being almost paradoxical in a way. This is what, in my view, I'd call a "guilty pleasure". :)

So you like the parts that you like, and dislike the rest. This isn't a conflict, it's a tautology. There's something about it that fulfils you in a way that its absence does not.

It's like re-reading the books I read as a kid is for me. When I was ten, I liked Piers Anthony. I sometimes re-read some of those books as an adult for the nostalgia factor. Yes, I think I could write it better than the author did. Yes, the books are rubbish. But I'm still fulfilled by that nostalgia factor and anybody who has a problem with that can lick my sweaty ball sack.

[Raistlin]

Pissing Bleys off is generally not the best way to go about life.

I disagree. I consider pissing off Bleys to be generally the best thing to do under any circumstances.

[NeoCracker]

Pissing Bleys off is generally not the best way to go about life.

I disagree. I consider pissing off Bleys to be generally the best thing to do under any circumstances.

I vote we form a giant sex line.

The sex line is us taking turns having sex with people bleys wouldn't want us having sex with!

[Mercen-X]

When I hear guilty pleasure, I only think of food/drink that's unhealty. Cigarettes should always be a guilty pleasure. Everyone who smokes should feel guilty 24/7. God, I just wish that with their next puff, they would cough so hard, they'd puke their guts out and die from internal hemorrhaging. Well-deserving.




There are no guilty pleasures, only things that you do and do not like. If you like something, but are ashamed of it, that does not mean you have a guilty pleasure, it means you are an idiot.

The pedophiles will be so glad to hear that they have no reason to be ashamed of liking child porn!

That's not a guilty pleasure. That's being a smurfing disgusting worm that should be in jail. There's a slight difference between liking something that's unpopular and being a downright creeper. :stare:
These "CREEPY" thoughts aren't without origin. It's the heavy religious ban on sexual experimentation and personal fulfillment that leads to the very concept of taboo. Even Sodom and Gamora weren't the hellholes we're led to believe they were. Just a few people who were highly religious were unlucky enough to be living amongst these people who didn't believe the same way. Everyone else in the city thought the same way Bleys does. "It's what I like and I don't feel bad. Don't try to make me feel bad. (Or I'll cut your throat.)" Well, maybe they were a little creepy.

Still, it's pure subterfuge that leads us to judge what is and isn't acceptable in any context especially sexual. If for some reason, a child was mentally advanced enough to grasp the consequences of their own free actions, it would still be socially unacceptable for that child to engage in a sexual relationship with anyone especially an adult and it has exactly tit to do with "consent" but instead to do with we who believe we are fit to judge others. In fact, this is why many teen girls who lose their virginity young end up so ruined. It's not purely due to how they were raised but to how they believe the world would perceive them if their history were to come to light. Anyone who judges another is a stupid person and there is never an f-ing exception. To judge is to think yourself better than another. To think yourself better than another is to think yourself better than everyone. If not, you're just an f-ing hypocrite. Which, in fact, means you're no better than the one you judged. It is not now nor shall it ever be our place to judge one another, but we should be willing to both offer and accept help. And help is not something that is simple. You cannot just do someone a favor and hope they land on their feet. Pay It Forward is not realistic.

It's just like that episode of South Park. If it's an underage girl or boy with an adult man, it's wrong. If it's an underage girl or boy with and adult woman, it's awesome. One reason is because it's so rare it's difficult to grasp as real or serious. Another could be that women are not viewed publicly as those who would manipulate or take advantage of anyone let alone the younger crowd. You may say it here to save face as politically correct, but in private you would not think for a moment that a woman taking advantage of a child sexually could ever happen, I don't care who you are or what you say.


I don't remember my point.

[Citizen Bleys]

The sex line is us taking turns having sex with people bleys wouldn't want us having sex with!

OK I have no idea what about me conveys the impression that I give a rat's arse who fucks who, but I'm just going to come out and announce that I hereby officially grant my blessing for any and all pairs of consenting adults, everywhere in the universe across the entire span of history, to fuck as much as they want. You want to get it on with a bug-eyed monster from a galaxy on the arse end of the universe? Go to it, my friend.

Christ.

[Mirage]

Stuff

Dude you got it all wrong. This thread is about pointless bickering, not serious, well thought-out arguments.

[Citizen Bleys]

I like pointless bickering.

It amuses me.

[Mirage]

I never said there was anything wrong with pointless bickering :>

[Shorty]

This thread is about Bleys tricking EoFF into exposing their guilty pleasures and I won't fall for it, I tell you.

[Citizen Bleys]

This thread is about Bleys tricking EoFF into exposing their guilty pleasures and I won't fall for it, I tell you.

Uh, no, if I wanted to do that I'd make a thread called "What are your guilty pleasures?" and watch you sheep meekly stroll in and answer the question. I know it would work because it frequently does (http://home.eyesonff.com/search.php?searchid=241252).

The point of this thread is to make you think, and stop being ashamed of liking things that you like because it's stupid to be ashamed.

[TrollHunter]

Anyone who judges another is a stupid person and there is never an f-ing exception. To judge is to think yourself better than another. To think yourself better than another is to think yourself better than everyone. If not, you're just an f-ing hypocrite. Which, in fact, means you're no better than the one you judged. It is not now nor shall it ever be our place to judge one another, but we should be willing to both offer and accept help. And help is not something that is simple. You cannot just do someone a favor and hope they land on their feet. Pay It Forward is not realistic.

I WILL NOT POINTLESSLY BICKER!

I disagree. Judging just for the sake of judging is an arrogant act, but judging for the sake of helping others or yourself is not. Like say in kung fu for me, when I'm watching two people spar I can judge their performance and think of how I can attach my criticisms to how I fight and take note so I can improve. It isn't that I think I'm a better fighter than them, but I still can see the errors in their style, and these are errors I may very well make myself. It's a learning experience.
If someone close asks for serious help in a relationship, you won't get anywhere without first judging the relationship and the actions of those involved. Judging doesn't always have to be an act of self-superiority.
While it very commonly is (oh my god, did you see the font she typed that comment in? She is such a drama queen), judging can be used without that arrogance or ego attached.

[NeoCracker]

Tim Minchin - Guilty Pleasures - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rVsD-bHA7oA)

[Jiro]

Pissing off Bleys generally only works if you have some kind of leverage on him. Leverage gained through the use of pipes, perhaps. Or something else! Frig, I can't remember.

[Mercen-X]

This thread was pretending to have two pages (my pages are set at 30 posts)

EDIT: That's weird. Earlier, the Page 2 link brought me to Page 1.

[Citizen Bleys]

Pissing off Bleys generally only works if you have some kind of leverage on him. Leverage gained through the use of pipes, perhaps. Or something else! Frig, I can't remember.

Nice try, you smurfing bastard.

[Shlup]

Some of the things I like are really just terrible.

[NorthernChaosGod]

I'm totally in the "it's liking things that are bad" camp. I'm not ashamed of anything I like.