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Spooniest

01-22-2013, 06:41 AM

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Okay, I've finished my revision of Final Fantasy 6. I'm waiting to see if I can include a minor event tweak at one point in the game before I submit it to romhacking.net, but I figured since I like you guys so much, I'd let you see the 99.9% done version first.

https://dl.dropbox.com/u/33809435/ff6sg40.zip

This patch^ will need to be applied to a copy of Final Fantasy III (U) (V1.0), which I am legally constrained not to tell you how to get, unless I'm mistaken. I recommend Snes9x v1.53 to play this version, unless you're rich and can make yourself a repro cart. Don't ask me how that's done, by the way, because I'll respond with a big fat goose egg.

So let's fire this baby up!

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The Original Title screen patch is courtesy of Yazoo. I at one point wanted to make a custom title screen, as in Sky Render's FF6, but I failed at it pretty epically.

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I imagine I lose a lot of people right here. Not only is Banan's name spelled differently, but he's providing the opening narration and the War of the Magi, which I thought was too cumbersome a phrase, has been renamed "The Demon War," which I think is from one of Sky Render's versions, and I thought it sounded cool. (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/RuleOfCool)

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The custom font for this game was designed by the romhacking.net user vivify93, who is a sexy bitch. ;) I didn't think it was believable that exactly 1,000 years should be given as the figure of time, so I decided to obscure exactly how much time has passed since the war. I think it's sufficient to say that it was a really long goddamn time.

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I thought every other version of this line I've ever seen said too much, too soon. I wanted to tighten it up, because honestly, all the player needs to know at this point is "magic all up in this bitch."

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The actual quote is "Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it." It's usually attributed to Georges Santayana, but wikipedia seems to think a guy named Edmund Burke was the one who coined it. I thought it fitting, considering the rocky terrain.

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I wanted to make these guys actually sound like military officers who are on duty. The other versions of the game have them talking as though they've gone to a pub and are discussing this over a glass of ale. You'll notice it's "Biggs" now, to make the Star Wars reference clear. Though in Star Wars, Biggs and Wedge are members of the Rebellion, if I recall correctly.

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You'll notice that "Esper" is now "Eidolon," and I really don't think that needs much explanation. Also, "War" is capitalized to imply that they are discussing the Demon War specifically. People often refer to well publicized wars simply as "The War," and know what each other are talking about. Colloquial language was king of my efforts.

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My brother, who was in the Air Force, told me that it's not unusual for officers to use the word "intel," though not entirely common either. I thought this more interesting than lines about wild goose chases or "the urgency of our orders" which sounds robotic.

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What I want the player to notice is that he doesn't refer to Tina (she's called Tina in this hack) by any kind of gender or personhood reference; she is a "thing." This figures into a line coming up, as well.

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No longer are we restrained by Nintendo...I can say "kill" if I feel the need to. Also, exact figures on the number of soldiers and the time frame felt hokey to me.

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The operative word here is "slave." In the march toward Narshe, which is the third and final movement of "Omen," there is a misery, a sadness in the G minor key used. Tina starts out this game as property, committing a war crime against her will. :cry:

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Why can't this guy come back and put the kibosh on this "All The Bravest" horse trout?

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And why can't this guy (Nomura) go back to where he belongs, as Assistant Graphic Director? I guess what they say is true; wish and one hand and poo in the other, and see which one fills up faster. ;)

Next time on LPFF6SG:

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That Magitek Armor is fully operational! :D

Psychotic

01-24-2013, 06:18 PM

Wow it's pretty damn cool that you did a rewrite yourself. That's dedication.

Zen Beoulve

01-30-2013, 03:33 PM

oh my god, great work. keep it up! :D

Spooniest

02-15-2013, 04:59 AM

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Part Two begins now!

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As you can see, the regular characters now have mechanical-themed alternate attacks. Nothing super-powerful or too game changing, though it is now possible to stun the first boss with the "Net" command.

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And apparently the last dog.

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Boy howdy the life insurance policies for Imperial Officers must be through the roof.

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This was a favorite line of mine. Nothing fancy, just "I got this."

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Intelligent input, Wedge, why don't you just have another beer then?

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Notice that the character is not identified by name just yet. And pay attention to the names given to NPC's now and again, I had some fun with those.

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Is she puking in this scene? What's the deal? I mean, to have amnesia, that requires some kind of concussion, you know, in real life. And when you have a concussion you throw up. It always seemed too easy when people have amnesia in video games.

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This is definitely not the last time a character says "Oh my God," something Nintendo wouldn't have allowed, but that people do, in fact, say, sometimes without even knowing it.

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Garth...that was a haiku.

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I said this in the "Tina or Terra" thread, but I prefer Tina as the name for the green-tressed magical destroyer of worlds...for the irony, I suppose.

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Without the last line, this could be taken out of context rather poorly.

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He used her last name! Which is very polite to do, you know, and he needs her to trust him, so he would be polite to her.

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Has anyone ever brought up that it's likely freezing cold out in Narshe at this time, with snow everywhere, and yet Tina is wearing something akin to a nightie? How come she don't get pneumonia? Does she use fire spells to keep warm? Is her garment a Magitek-powered heating pad? Is it drugs?

Up next...

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Spooniest

02-16-2013, 03:17 PM

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Well, here we go!

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Kefka was a fun character to write for. You can make him as nasty as you want to, there's no limit to his depravity.

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Ralph Wiggum: This is where I saw a leprechaun! He told me to burn things!
Leprechaun: Fine job, laddie! All ya gotta do now is burn the house down. BURN 'EM ALL!
Ralph: (Nods)

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It's "Ghastra..." idk, for the evulz. Notice also the word choice here, "masters of this world," to suggest "master race" and other stuff that breaks Godwin's Law.

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And, enter our not-the-main-character-unless-you're-a-guy hero, stage right.

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Yes this is another haiku. I'm not really sure if it follows all the rules for a haiku, but the structure of it is there.

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Bulltrout.

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He's a thief, and by the way, Locke has more dialogue than any other character. Read about it here (http://thegamedesignforum.com/features/reverse_design_ff6_2.html).

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This was an important change, because the original script by Woolsey said that Imperial troops were pursuing her, but that's not what the player has just seen happening, nor is it what ends up happening, which you find out later.

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No name given for the resistance, I saved that for a later scene.

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Little more oblique with the NPC directions here, since there are NPCs later that direct you to do what Arvis usually says here (Talk to the king).

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Notice that the Marshal is given that title during his dialogue.

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This was two lines in version 3.1, but in version 4.0 I've trimmed it to one line. There was a lot of that, text reformatting and stuff.

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Just a quick once-over for those of you wondering what the Moogles are called. These names are taken from Tom Slattery's version (the GBA version).

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Why don't I press it and see???

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Another line trimmed from two lines to one.

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She gives her last name, and also, the line about her mind being trapped in a fog is added in version 4.0, straight from the GBA version.

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I think this line got cobbled together from all the various versions I've read. I wanted to get it out of the way quickly, and give it some flow.

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Changed verbiage here...

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Just wanted to show you something quick. The Sprint Shoes are now the Wingboots, and they're super expensive. They come with stat boosts...also, you start with a Ward Bangle, so you have the option of reduced encounters if you like.

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Since the Wingboots are equipped on Tina, she receives a slight boost to her magic. Also, this was the only encounter I had on the way to Figaro.

NEXT TIME!!

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HOW ARE YOU, GENTLEMEN?

SIDE NOTE:

I made a thing. It's 1024x768. (https://dl.dropbox.com/u/33809435/ffdesktop.PNG) It can go on a desktop.

Spooniest

02-16-2013, 11:57 PM

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Played it some more...it is Saturday, after all.

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"EVERY GIRL CRAZY BOUT A SHARP-DRESSED MAN" ...I was tempted to quote the ZZ Top song, but I toned it down to be just a hair less ridiculous.

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You tell him, sis.

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Slick.

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A friend of mine tripped over the word "treats" in this context. Like when countries have a treaty, it means they've discussed terms under which they will not carry out aggression against each other...etc.

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Slick.

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Tina is glad she brought her boots, cuz it's getting deep in here.

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Son of a...!

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This line seemed to want to be heavily implied to keep the characterization from becoming anvilicious.
(http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/Anvilicious)
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This is a rather drastic change that people have been puzzled by.

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Wait for it...

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(I suppose it's worth noting that if you rename Edgar something like Steve, this is no longer a haiku)

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Check his entry on the Character Sheet over at TV Tropes. It's here. (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Characters/FinalFantasyVI) That's where I got this romanization...I'm not sure how accurate it is but I think it sounds different. And I was always puzzled by "Sabin" because nobody is named "Sabin." (shrug)

NEXT: You-know-who.

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Spooniest

02-17-2013, 04:36 AM

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Got a lot of ground to cover this time so let's get to it!

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As I mentioned before, Kefka is fun to write for.

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He's a total rageaholic, a complete malcontent.

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Veteran players will get the call forward here.

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Bastard.

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I enjoy this line every time.

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I thought this tightened up nicely.

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As did this...

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...And this.

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Edgar's first moment to show that he's not taking trout from anyone.

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This line always seemed funny because there are exactly four women in Figaro, if you're not counting South Figaro, in which case there are nine, before the Returner Hideout, that is.

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Just a sinister, nasty son of a bitch, he is.

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I want a Kefka punching bag.

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Locke's line is directly from the Slattery (GBA) version. I thought it important here that Edgar not yet refer to Tina by name, as there is a line later that concerns him remembering her name.

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The ellipse at the end of this line in the other versions seemed to indicate careful thought, but I don't think that's what's on Edgar's mind at the moment at all. He wasn't born yesterday, and he knows Kefka is on to him. He's getting started planning their escape right now. He's already decided what to do, and he's going about setting it in motion.

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Woolsey has him flirting some more here, but Slattery's line about tea and crumpets sounds a lot more serious and, well...kingly.

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And Locke is properly introduced to Tina. I should note that you can still name Locke something like Steve if you want, and he will simply be Steve Cole here.

NEXT TIME

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Spooniest

02-18-2013, 10:14 AM

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In every RPG there is a moment when the first basic plot thread is laid out. In Final Fantasy I, you get it from talking to the King of Cornelia and finding out that a princess has been abducted. In Chrono Trigger, it's Lucca's speech to Crono when he's picked up the pendant and got on the telepod. "I don't know where this is going to send you, but we don't have any other choice." Final Fantasy IV has the text crawl at the beginning, being the goodie two shoes that it is.

In Final Fantasy VI, this scene is the moment where the game gives you the first real bit of plot development. And it's one of the best, if not the best, of those listed above.

So let's mosey!

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I thought Locke wouldn't yell at Tina. I know it's supposed to be funny but Locke's been around the block a couple of times, he wouldn't yell at somebody who'd lost their memory.

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Here's where we get the Returners named for the first time...

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And Jun Arvis...there were multiple names for this character, so I just combined them into one name.

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(...Into a God-awful troutstorm...)

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Toss a coin?

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This was always Commander Riker's big line on Star Trek: The Next Generation. Usually he'd take his foot off of the thing it was propped up on for his "heroic stance" first. Usually.

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MMmmmmm...barbecue

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Instead of Beavis and Butthead, as in Woolsey, I'm quoting That 70's Show's Michael Kelso.

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I thought "Seems I have no choice...or maybe I do" was ridiculous and sophomoric...

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...And this is what I changed it to.

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This is this guy's only real line of dialogue in the main plot. You don't have to talk to him, ever.

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Someone who worked at Nintendo to make sure there was nobody in their games who said "kill" will see this and probably make a cup of tea and smile.

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I wonder if the reason the Magitek Armors don't do anything while they're talking about trout is that they can't see the party. It seems elementary, but that's how I'd do it on film, or if I were animating it.

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Yeah, u mad bro?

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MA (pause) GIC!

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smurfing. Magic.

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This is the line where Edgar remembers her name for the first time.

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"Quite startled me" is from the Slattery.

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People seem to think this line is some sort of sticking point. I wrote my own to distance this version from such thinking.

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Well of course you're scared, if I'd been out all day in the desert in a slip, I'd be scared too!

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And we're off!

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Banan: So this is the woman who went into the Narshe mountains in a nightie...

NEXT TIME: MY 100th screen cap (cuz apparently there's a limit on the number of pictures I can post at one time...)

Spooniest

02-18-2013, 10:26 AM

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This is screen grab #100, for people who enjoy keeping count of things.

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And here's where Edgar sticks his big fat royal foot into his big fat royal mouth.

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;_;

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What I call this is a game's "Manifesto." It's telling you, in a nutshell, what this game is about. And what I like about this scene is that it doesn't really even hint at what's coming. But this game is about the problems Tina has with being what she is, and this is the basic expression of that problem.

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I've always been fond of this exchange.

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Tina: Who?
Edgar: You know, the guy who narrated the intro.
Tina: What?

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Public speaking: not something thieves do a lot.

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There's no real resolution to this version of the scene. It's just "Tina, we should go see Banan." Tina: "I dunno..." "Well, let's go to South Figaro." The scene now ends without a decision about whether they will go see Banan or not.

NEXT TIME:

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Through the cave and eastward...

the_best_noob

02-18-2013, 12:25 PM

I absolutely love it. The Figaro part just made me die laughing, though I think Edgar's haiku made him sound more like a drug dealer than anything else. When I saw Well-Dressed Man I just lost it completely, along with the possibly unintentional sexual joke with "You've been busy down south. Looking for another conquest?" I must say, the change in the lines Edgar has when he brings out Terra/Tina and jumps on the chocobos was a bittersweet change. I liked the new one, but the old lines gave you that quick feeling that Edgar was going to ditch her and run away, which tends to give you the feeling of smurf you, Edgar and than appreciating him for A. Saving Terra and Locke and B. Building a castle that sinks into the sand. tl;dr it was great and Figaro was the best part

Spooniest

02-18-2013, 03:29 PM

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Of all the first towns in any RPG I've ever played, South Figaro is where I want to live.

On with the show!

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Sharp-eyed readers may notice a certain black-cloaked figure at the bottom of this shot.

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As if you expect him to be like "Hi there."

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Edgar's just about to have an apoplectic.

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I'm sorry, am I supposed to be up on all the latest people running around in broad daylight in black pajamas, Edgar?!

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Oh.

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I'd be surprised if there were anyone who's never heard that the Japanese word for shadow is "Kage." Also, I thought an immediate threat to Locke's life would make this bit of dialogue more incisive...if you'll pardon the pun.

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Isn't he worried? I mean, wouldn't human flesh make the dog fat and sick? I'm not really up on my biology here.

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The rest of South Figaro is largely unchanged. Mrs. Duncan (formerly Duncan's Wife) now has a proper title.

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Notice Leo has a last name. The only character who doesn't get their last name mentioned is Kefka, because giving him last name privileges humanized him too much. Although, I may have just misspoke, because I believe Cid has an amazingly hard to remember last name, that I just plain don't know.

On to Macias' Cabin...

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If I knew anything about graphics hacking and didn't care about maintaining a serious tone, I'd stick a Ryo Sakazaki poster in this room.

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Star Wars reference. Not the last one, either.

Anyway, up the mountain we go. You've likely been up Mt. Kolts before, if you're reading this, so let's cut right to the chase, shall we?

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It should be noted here that it's awfully difficult having the nametag take up a whole line by itself, especially when two people are speaking within the same text bubble. I had to be really economical with lines like that, but I wanted to keep them in, to preserve the rhythm and "feel" of the Woolsey script.

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This guy...doesn't mess around!!!

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Pretty standard fight against Vargas. I don't try for the Mithril Claw, I just pound on him until...

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NEXT TIME

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Spooniest

02-18-2013, 03:50 PM

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I have to admit this is one of my very favorite lines.

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None of this "do in your own father" business.

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The Kill Bill quote here is pretty apt, I think. Anyway the rest of the conversation is boring so

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Suffice it to say...

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There is absolutely no romhacker out there skilled enough to make this the Five Point Palm Exploding Heart Technique.

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But I can make THIS the Zan Retsu Ken! (I was playing a lot of Art of Fighting at the time I first started work on Stand Guard).

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Eat shit, Vargas.

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He could say "The brothers are reunited!!" And we could all drool like the primates we would be for accepting that as his dialogue here. Or I can change it.

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I understand this is a popular line among LBGTers, but I really have no use for such information besides mentioning it during a Let's Play.

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I feel this sequence of lines serves to characterize Macias as a bit of a hothead, and show how the two are foils for each other, with Edgar calm and measured, and Macias just plain excited about everything.

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This didn't need to be put in two separate text bubbles, but I wanted to once again preserve the rhythm and "feel" of Woolsey's version, since it's the one I'm most familiar with.

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These are lines I wrote myself.

TRY NEXT STAGE!

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the_best_noob

02-19-2013, 03:56 AM

Ok, Shadow's haiku made up for Edgars. Will this be made available for download at some point?

Spooniest

02-19-2013, 07:37 AM

It's currently up at Romhacking.net - Hacks - Final Fantasy VI: Stand Guard (http://www.romhacking.net/hacks/794/). It's also at the top of this page.

Spooniest

02-19-2013, 09:44 AM

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Let's do it to it!

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I think it's important that Tina be referred to as a woman if we're going to be parading her around in a nightie, don't you?

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Ah, the 101st Armored Corps...poor bastards never knew what hit em.

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This wasn't a hard decision, but I left all of this nearly exactly as it was.

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I have this idea that keeps coming back of this line being said with really bad voice acting...I think I was trying to keep myself sane while script editing.

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Told.

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I thought it fitting to get the story straight here. The censorship of this game really bothers me to this day. What were they afraid I would think?

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This set of lines cleaned up nice. Now let's go see Macias.

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:D
Tomato's straight from Slattery on the GBA.
And Edgar...

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On the one hand, it does seem right that Tina be offered a choice. On the other hand, is this whole routine just a way of saying that Tina needs to be able to join without getting her girly feelings hurt? Either way you cut it, this scene is a great way of building tension and giving the player a sense of time passing. Anyway, time to talk to Banan.

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I'm going to say no the first time, to get...

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...The Genji Glove, because the only thing better than dakka is moar dakka.

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Anyway, now I'm gonna go back and say "Yes," so we can see the strategy meeting.

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I was playing a lot of Phantasy Star II at the time this was written. Every battle ends with "ROLF and party were victorious!"

NEXT TIME:

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Spooniest

02-19-2013, 10:44 AM

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One note before we begin. This is a call forward...

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To a certain other steampunk-themed Final Fantasy.

So, let's get started!

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!!!

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:D

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Right.

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He's doing the minutes from from their previous meetings.

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Locke gets to talk more than anyone else because he's the one doing all the freaking work.

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See there, Locke's talking. Even if he is stating the blindingly obvious...

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A lot of this is kind of boring, but I just wanted you to know that I didn't ignore it.

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Macias is probably sleeping.

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Locke: But Edgar, that'd be stealing!
Edgar: D:<

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Brainstorming stuff...

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I bet the scrap of paper was the page from the strategy guide that tells you how to get the Genji Glove and still see this scene.

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I'm starting to think that this scene is here to reiterate everything that's happening in the plot up to this point, just in case you're losing track of it...

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...So this line kind of came from that.

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Straight from Metal Gear Solid.

NEXT TIME:

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Spooniest

02-19-2013, 07:34 PM

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Well...let's get started!

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Most of the dialogue here is unchanged from Woolsey, but I thought this could use an update.

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I wanted to do something to get the player's attention with this because it's kind of important. So I right-justified it down an imaginary line near the middle of the text box.

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Just yer average everyday raft ride down the Lethe River.

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From Back to the Future I and II.

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This guy just loves to run his mouth. He looks a little bit like the Cheshire Cat, too, which is kind of disturbing.

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You'll notice it's the correct Porky Pig quote here.

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Thought this came across nicely.

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Ultros: The original leg-toucher.

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As you all know, Macias isn't gonna take that trout, salmon, or perch while he's rafting on the Lethe River, and he gets separated from them.

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No kidding!

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(Foreshadowing)

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I thought Edgar's terseness here was appropriate, considering he warned Macias not to go off half cocked, and this is what happened.

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I think this is all straight Woolsey, but it didn't need editing, really.

NEXT TIME: Who will it be? You will decide*.

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*I will decide

Spooniest

02-20-2013, 07:24 PM

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If you've ever played a full Rages game of Final Fantasy VI, you'd know that to get the most Rages on this trip to the Veldt, you would do Macias' Scenario last. But as I have heard it said, smurf the Veldt.

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I'm doing Macias' Scenario first.

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Here we go...this all didn't require much touching up.

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Who can spot the Final Fantasy Tactics reference here?

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As I said, smurf the Veldt, but I will stop to pick up Stray Cat because who wouldn't?

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This is now spoken by Macias. I saw no reason why not.

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They're given names here, but then, afterward, I stop using them, because it just seemed subtler that way.

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I felt it was important to get this out of the way as quickly as possible, and if I'd kept the nametags in it would've become unmanageable.

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Another example of Kefka being fun to write for. "Stay alert" is from Metal Gear Solid.

Stay tuned...

Spooniest

02-20-2013, 11:55 PM

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Fate: sealed!

If you've played this game in any of its considerable incarnations you know how this all goes down.

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They attack, and then...

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^_^

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Up until this point in the game, there've been no armored Fighter-type characters in the game, what people call a "tank."

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Interesting note: the phrase "Let's go" appears in Final Fantasy (in general) an awful lot. Naturally, somebody's always going somewhere.

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Now doesn't this sound better than "FILL YOUR HANDS, YOU SON OF A BITCH!"

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As you can see here, I decided to use Iaido #2, Sky. It's always been my favorite for the wicked damage it does. Also, there's a chance of getting a Phoenix Down here in the original game, but this has been removed.

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Poor bastards never knew what hit em.

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When we get back to Macias and Kage, we find that they've switched places. Is this a bug? I would tend to think so. I wonder if there's a fix for it.

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Ah, the chest in the tent.

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:D

NEXT TIME:

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Spooniest

02-21-2013, 05:04 AM

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I always wondered why they built the Imperial Base on the only tiny patch of desert in all of Doma. Doesn't that seem weird?

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I guess if this were Final Fantasy I, Leo would be the main character.

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The full quote is "Dulce et decorum est pro patria mori." It means "It is sweet and fitting to die for one's country." Also, I edited this so that we now know this to be the guy who deserts after the poisoning of Doma, is beaten within an inch of his life, and spends the rest of the WoB in a bed in Mobliz. You can get a Cat Bell from him if you send his girlfriend in Maranda stuff.

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SUCKER

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Worst command decision ever.

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This is a paraphrasal of The Princess Bride.

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Kefka has some great lines in this scene.

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SUCKER

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He's just this walking mass of vitriol and venom...I love it!

40751

Macias ain't gon take this sh** no mo

407524075340754

Kefka's famous joke is funny not because it's a good joke, but because it's so bad that you laugh AT him for being such a pathetic joke teller.

40755

This is a quote from Nick Danger: Third Eye by The Firesign Theater.

40756

I'll give you three guesses what that's a call forward to.

4075740758

Not looking good...

NEXT TIME:

4075940760

Spooniest

02-21-2013, 05:18 AM

UNMARKED SPOILERS AHEAD, yearr

So, Kefka poisons the water.

407614076240763407644076540766

Since the game now has a dash button feature, even if you couldn't afford the Wingboots (they're 30,000 gil), you can still make Cayene run like hell here.

4076740768

We've got to protect our phoney baloney jobs!!

4076940770
4077140772

This all went largely unedited.

40773407744077540776

The King of Doma doesn't have many lines, but his death can be interpreted as symbology for the passing away of the feudal system as the industrial revolution took hold.

4077740778

Anyway, if you thought the King's death was depressing...

4077940780
4078140782

;_;

40783

One of the only times in the game I saw fit to use caps lock.

NEXT TIME:

4078440785

Spooniest

02-22-2013, 06:01 AM

UNMARKED SPOILERS AHEAD

So Cayene has gotten himself into a bit of a scrape, going all Kill Bill on the Imperials.

4083540836

Neighborly guy that he is, Macias offers him a helping hand.

408374083840839

What's this? The game has again decided that Kage should be first in line. I really wish there was some kind of fix for this.

40840

Macias' full name is given.

4084140842
4084340844

:eek:

40845408464084740848

It's worth noting that Macias is able to throw Cayene, a fully armored Samurai, up this high in the air.

4084940850

This was a line that I missed the first few times I played through Final Fantasy III.

4085140853

Dammit, Macias, I'm a Samurai, not a Magitek Armor Pilot!

4085240854

"I caaan't stooop" is from Tommy Boy. "Here comes the meat wagon BEEOOEEEOO"

40830

I recommend Thunder Beam, but you can certainly get through it with Tek Laser if you want.

408314083240833

This tightened up pretty good.

NEXT TIME:

40834

Would you believe I was in the middle of a battle swirl when this screenshot was taken? One step into the place and ZOOT ZOOT

Spooniest

02-22-2013, 09:17 PM

UNMARKED SPOILERS AHEAD.

I wanted to say something quick...the finished version is now up at both romhacking.net and fantasyanime.

Off we go!

40860

This has to be one of the best place names the series has ever produced.

4086340864

I want you personally to know what I went through to get this shot. It takes a while for Kage to get bored and leave. Not that I am leaving him behind, I just wanted you to know what he says. :D

4086540866

Fair enough.

4086740868

Don't like where this is going.

40869

This always reminds me of that episode of Star Trek: The Next Generation where the Doctor has a green candle that turns into a ghost that ravishes her and there's this old, really camp Scotsman telling her "Dunna light that candle!"

4087040871

Yeah, wat up?

40872408734087440875

When he recounts this story to Edgar and the others later, this is the point where they're going to call bullshit and ask him if he really just got drunk. Cayene'll back him up though.

4087640877

Straight Woolsey, there.

40878408794088040881

:D

408824088340884

I know how he feels. It took me forever just to get Final Fantasy III US Multi Editor to even run.

NEXT TIME

40885

Spooniest

02-23-2013, 01:54 AM

UNMARKED SPOILERS AHEAD, matey

First thing I do is buy potions, cuz my HP is getting low.

40892

Now that's done.

40893408944089540896

All the Ghosts keep saying is "No escape...!" in this version.

40897

You get the idea.

40898

F*ers are fast, too. <BZZT> "Simon Phoenix, you have been fined one credit for a violation of the verbal morality statute."

40899409004090140902

You know how it goes, they jump across the train car rooftops. Why does every video game from this period feature some kind of stage on a train, or its roof?

4090340904

But, of course...

40905

They don't get away that easily.

40906

Yadda yadda throwin' switches, that's not what you're here to see.

40907

Mmmmmm...spectral barbecue

4090840909

Why do dead people need to eat?

4091040911

Macias just ran out of give a fuck.

4091240913

If only eating like that had that effect in real life.

So guess what time it is?

40914

?!

40915

Yep.

NEXT TIME

40891

Spooniest

02-23-2013, 10:20 AM

UNMARKED SPOILERS AHEAD

So, Macias, being the living manifestation of awesome, does what any living manifestation of awesome would do and laughs in this guy's dumb face.

4091940920

Told.

40921

Right!

40922

This whole episode of the game (The Phantom Train) would be kind of morbid if it weren't for this scene. How does this guy even get on the train, and then appear later, very much alive? What's the point of this? Was it really just a way to waste the player's time? I wonder if anyone's ever gotten pissed off at this event afterwards, because you get next to nothing for it.

4092340924

Is this guy Locke in disguise or something? Cuz he grabs the treasure...

40925

...And runs like hell. (shrug)

40926

Finally!

4092740928

Sounds simple enough.

40929

Bing bang BIPPITY BAP

40930

:confused:

40931

Well, mister, yer cruisin' for a bruisin'! Have a Meteodrive!

4093240933

I could just use a phoenix down on him of course, but the day I can't beat the Phantom Train fair and square is the day I'd better hang up my SNES replica controller forever.

40934

VICTOLY

40935

I didn't want to give a first-time player any warning of what was coming, like other versions of this line do.

So he lets them off, of course, and...

4094540937

Narshe's theme plays here. It's one of the first instances of music being reused in the context of the story.

40938409394094040941

:cry::cry::cry::cry::cry::cry:

40918

...

NEXT TIME:

40942

Spooniest

02-23-2013, 04:09 PM

UNMARKED SPOILERS AHEAD

So, remember when I said I had a hell of a time trying to get Kage to leave before? Well, I had a sneaking suspicion right about now, so...

40947

...I emptied his equipment.

40948

And sure enough, the Force seems to be strong with me because he did leave.

4094940950

I think this line is meant to explain the fact that you fight Imperial Troops on the Veldt.

40951

I wanted to make Cayene seem distracted here, for obvious reasons.

40952

I'm going to assume those of us who decided to call the DM crazy at this point eventually wised up and jumped.

40954

HOW BOUT A CANNONBALL

4095540956

Macias: "So then we jumped into the waterfall, and we were attacked by Piranhas!"
Edgar & Everyone Else: "BULL SH*&"

40957

If Rizopas ever gets off El Nino you're kind of screwed, so it's important to take him out quickly.

4095840959

I'm going to assume for the sake of brevity that people know how to get Gau into the party. You go to Mobliz and buy Dried Meat, then give it to him instead of smacking him around.

40953409604096140962

Sir Sir!

4096340964

Note that Gau never introduces himself in any other version of the script. Now he does.

4096540966

I thought Gau got too loquacious for his character here in Woolsey's version, so I "Gau'd" it up a little.

40967409684096940970

I think I fell asleep playing once while the line "Can anything be THAT shiny?" was on the screen.

GO NEXT STAGE!

40946

Spooniest

02-23-2013, 04:24 PM

UNMARKED SPOILERS AHEAD

4097240973

Is it just supposed to be comically unlikely that Gau would guess that's who Locke was, or is this supposed to indicate Gau being smarter than Macias, or that Locke is somehow famous? I don't even...sigh...forget it.

4097440975

PICTURED (CW from top): Cayene, Macias, Gau, rock

4097640977

:D

40978

Anyway, about Gau. I skipped the Tutorial because if you're like me and have played this game a zillion times, what you really need to know is that you start with just this one rage, and it's really all you need, if you are an experienced player of Final Fantasy VI.

4097940980

All the same, I stopped to get Stray Cat earlier, and I'm picking it up now.

40981

Note that Gau's returning speech has been trimmed to one line. For those of you who like to grind Rages, this will make the Veldt just a tad less tedious.

40982

I like to stock up on Green Berets before leaving the Veldt. I get enough for everyone at the Battle of Narshe.

40983409844098540986

This didn't need a lot of touching up.

40987

F*ing pointless

4098840989

If it were, I wonder who would win the death match that would have resulted.

40990409914099240993

Little bastard.

4099440995

That's how we roll in the Veldt.

NEXT TIME:

40971

Spooniest

02-23-2013, 04:45 PM

UNMARKED SPOILERS AHEAD.

So they find the diving helmet, which Gau stole from Mobliz before the game started.

4099740998

Pretty straightforward stuff here.

40999

This is Macias' line in the Woolsey, but I thought it was more "in character" for Cayene to distrust technology.

41020

People have complained that Macias says a cuss now and again. I used to be married, and my father in law was a fifth degree black belt. Man cussed like a sailor, and in fact was also a sailor at one time.

41000410014100241003

Nothing new to see in the Serpent Trench, really. With this Green Beret I now have seven, enough for everyone.

4100441005

Pretty obvious Legend of Zelda reference, but I couldn't resist.

41006

?!

4100741008

:D

4100941010

If you've never had a titty hug, drinking establishments are the places where they usually happen.

410114101241013

This last line is straight out of Slattery.

410144101541016

Good times!

41017

Because I'm an OCD FFVI player, I'm going to remove their equipment now.

4101841019

And Macias' Scenario comes to a close.

NEXT TIME: Who will it be?

40996

Spooniest

02-23-2013, 09:19 PM

UNMARKED SPOILERS AHEAD

41023

This is a lot of malarky, because it is actually the easiest of the three.

410244102541026

Drama.

41027

(facepalm)

41028

Anyway, it's time to remove their equipment.

4102941030

Notice Arvis is now named, and Banan in fact uses his first name.

41031

"...Well, they're kind of being assholes."

41032

Somebody on some forum somewhere was making a big deal out of this being mistranslated by Woolsey, so I changed it entirely.

41033

Tina: Please stop staring at me... :eep:

41034

Ominous note from Sky Render, always liked it.

41035

This is what I've been hoarding equipment for.

41036

Here's my setup.

4103741038

I won't lie; this took a couple of state reloads before I was able to take him down.

41039

Notice, now it's whiskey.

41040

:D

41041

Ha ha!

4104241043

D'OH!

4104441045

A friend of mine actually got stuck here because he didn't understand that he was supposed to select the correct password, he thought the three passwords were all one password. ...I never have quite got how that was possible for him to have thought.

41046

Time to get rescuin'!

NEXT TIME

41022

Spooniest

02-24-2013, 01:28 AM

UNMARKED SPOILERS AHEAD

Those who have only ever played the GBA version may find this content inappropriate.

4105041051

Oh, and those who dislike Japanese as a language may also have issues.

41058

I'm not saying that it's right to hit women, but I am saying that Imperial Soldiers aren't right. (And either way, we go right to her getting bitten by dogs and attacked with swords in a minute anyway...)

41053

This one was a bit tricky to put together.

41054

Her name is spelled 41073 in the Japanese rom. These three symbols represent the sounds "Se" "Ri" and "Su," or Celise (the letter u is often silent at the end of a word in Japanese).

41055410564105741058

It's pretty brutal. The sound effect isn't pleasant either.

41059

There are some pricks in the Imperial army besides Kefka, it seems.

4106041061

I couldn't remember if it was "for days" or "four days." That's the one that made it in.

41062

"Aye aye...Admiral Butthead."

41063

:love:

41064

This is the exact quote from Star Wars.

41065410664106741068

Celise is one of the first morbidly depressed video game characters.

41069

This is the basic idea behind her character that Nintendo was trying to dance around with the censorship. Celise has a death wish.

4107041071

Of course, Locke's not having that trout on a dull day.

41072

Another instance of "Let's go."

NEXT TIME

41049

Spooniest

02-24-2013, 06:14 AM

UNMARKED SPOILERS AHEAD

So, this soldier has something important.

41077

Hehe.

4107841079

I admit freely to being genuinely surprised when this guy jumped up.

41080

But he just mumbles trout about food.

41081

This bears the distinction of being something I actually have heard someone say when they were half asleep.

410824108341084

This exchange was rewritten to tighten it up, and improve the tone. And I dunno about you, but if I were Locke, I'd be getting a little annoyed at this point.

41085

The sound of ALL YOUR WORST NIGHTMARES COMING TRUE

41086

...But not really.

41087

And the fight against TunnelArmr will finish us out for the Three Scenarios.

41088410894109041091

I don't believe any of this has been changed, except that "Runic" is now "Sealing Blade."

41092

Here's how it appears in the command menu.

41093

The fight goes well, I get another Air Knife from him and immediately equip it and start wailing on him while Celise runs interference on the magic.

4109441095

Somewhere, an Imperial Engineer cries.

4109641097

That's all, that's it! The Battle of Narshe is upon us!

NEXT:

41076

Spooniest

02-24-2013, 08:12 PM

UNMARKED SPOILERS AHEAD

41115411164111741118

Did I mention that the Empire already INVADED your city and killed, like real people? And dogs?

41119

I made sure he always introduced himself the same way.

41120411214112241123

Locke slams open the door and starts yelling, being the loudmouth he is.

4112441125

These are their "Oh sh*t" faces.

Anyway, the question is asked, how is this known? And...

41126411274112841129

DRAMA!

41130

Thought this tightened up nicely.

41131

And apparently have been hanging around Locke a lot because you can't keep your BIG MOUTH SHUT

41132

He now uses the Samurai-character's name, whatever it happens to be, here.

4113341134

Just when it looks like a fight is about to break out...a fight breaks out.

41135

DRAAAAMAAAA!!

NEXT TIMES:

41114

Spooniest

02-24-2013, 09:48 PM

UNMARKED SPOILERS AHEAD

So, Kefka decides he's gonna just walk in there and get the dang thing himself.

4113641137

And our dudes and dudettes ain't having that sh*t.

4113841140

This is very close to the GBA version, if not exactly.

411414114241143

Why did everyone look at Edgar? Did he let rip a massive fart or something?

4114541146

Meow.

41147411484114941150

Final Fantasy VI just passed the Bedchel test. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bechdel_test)

41151

I thought this was a good change.

41153

Here's the parties I use, just so you know. Gau has Marshal, so he can wipe the floor with just about anything. Teaming Edgar and Tina gives me a full round of two multi-target attacks, powered up by the Hyper Wrist for Edgar, who'll use his Auto Bow Gun, and the Earrings for Tina, who will cast Fire. Party #1 is my Kefka Squad.

41154

Watch out for this guy. I don't know if it was a bug that happened while I was hacking the game, but he now casts Death pretty frequently. Sealing Sword is your friend.

41155

So let's get to it!

41156

Kefka puts up a surprisingly pathetic fight. No Icera or Lv3 Confu, he just sort of hits people and lets me steal a Super Ether.

4115741158

Get lost, ya palooka

41159

Is this a call back to Final Fantasy I on the NES, where when you escaped from a battle, it said "Close Call..."?

41160

So, anyway, Tina seems to be having some kind of issue.

NEXT TIME:

41152

Spooniest

02-25-2013, 12:01 AM

UNMARKED SPOILERS AHEAD

So Tina somehow becomes super powerful all of a sudden and decides her first act of awesomeness is to seriously :bou::bou::bou::bou: everybody up.

4116241163

Some kind of reaction, indeed.

4116441165

Didn't her mother ever teach her it isn't nice to yell at frozen magical creatures from long-forgotten wars?

41166

As usual, Edgar's good advice goes unheeded.

41167

ZAP!

41168

And that's the last we see of Tina for a while. Imagine if they'd never found her.

41169411704117141172

But, of course, the game has to go on, people paid good money to see this once upon a time...

41173411744117541176

This is the beginning of the second chapter of the game. You'll notice how they both begin with someone waking up in Arvis' bed.

4117741178

Who would've wanted to stay in Narshe while the party was looking for Tina? I guess if the game had enough ram for it, everyone could just go, but then the whole spiel about protecting the Eidolon and Banan would've become moot.

4117941180

Cayene has a really good line now and again.

4118141182

I actually stopped playing here the first time I played the game, because I was playing at a friend's house and he moved away after that.

NEXT TIME

41161

(cue music) (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xqmFxgEGKH0)

Greatermaximus

02-25-2013, 09:56 PM

The personality make-over creates a real feel. So congrats. The story overall is told well enough to exemplify humanity's problem of having a dangerous lust for power.

Even without dialogue and/or the ability to see it I would be horrified hearing about this story for the first time.

Spooniest

02-26-2013, 04:39 AM

UNMARKED SPOILERS AHEAD.

So, first things first. Mithril Shields are now available at the Armor Shop.

4129641297

So I gets them.

4129841277

I decided not to do the scene here until later on.

4130041299

Just passing through Figaro, and see if you can spot the Final Fantasy Tactics reference here.

4127841279

Everybody in Colingen seems to be either freaking out about property damage or going on and on about some girl named Rachel that I didn't bring to an untimely demise and STOP LOOKING AT ME.

41280

...And people die.

41281412824128341284

She should have let him fall. He's a thief, he coulda just rolled with it.

4128541286

But she doesn't, and so loses her memory.

412874128841289

Shit is pretty bleak for Locke.

4129041291

So bleak.

41292412934129441295

Ah, cry me a river ya pansy

NEXT TIME: Herbal Necromancy!

41301

Spooniest

02-26-2013, 09:28 PM

you think that I'm going to stop but I won't stop saying UNMARKED SPOILERS AHEAD

So, anyway! My take on this whole thing is that the Crazy Old Man (thusly named) came to Locke when Rachel was recovering from her fall and asked Locke an open ended question like "You'd do anything to protect her, wouldn't you?" And Locke said "yes," so what happened was that this guy preserved Rachel mostly without Locke's consent. This has to be a really awkward situation for Locke to be in.

4137041371

But I'd rather focus on the fact that he's now called "Crazy Old Man."

4137241373

Wait for it...

4137441375

:D

4137641377

Sidequest: activated!

41378

Remember, Locke has more dialogue than any other character. He's choosing this particular dialogue to fuckin whine about his sorta not completely dead girlfriend and ...sh*t, so anyway!!

41379

We get some informations of importance about Tina!

41380

The red dot on the map is where I am, JUST IN CASE ANYBODY DOESN'T KNOW. I have the choice right now of walking north to the white dot in what looks like a dragon's throat, and getting a Chocobo and ridin it down like a girl but I ain't gonna do dat.

41381

I'm walkin. Screw these guys.

41382

This thing is great. It does like, about 70% of the damage Macias is doing to EVERYTHING on the screen. Seriously, having Edgar along is something the programmers were nudging the player towards in this manner.

41383

I just wanted to stop for a second and say that I fuckin hate these fuckin birds who halve your goddamn HP all the time!

41384

Here's what I brought on this trip, courtesy of Edgar's half-price discount at Figaro Castle.

41385

WTF?

4138641387

So you mean America?

41388

So you mean Canada?

Ok, I'm not here for a friggin sociology lesson, where's the fireball wrapped up chick in the nightie?

NEXT TIME:

41369

Bingo!

Spooniest

02-27-2013, 02:51 AM

-unmarked spoilers ahead-

So, we're goin' into Zozo, hopefully to find Tina, and I'll show you how to make some money, too.

41394

It's always raining in Zozo, and while the people in Jidoor say everyone here is a liar, we'll soon find out that's not quite true, either.

41393

Hill Gigas is an enemy that appears outdoors in Zozo. You can steal a Gigas Glove, which is worth a lot of gil. I use NoiseBlaster and make him earthquake himself while I steal it.

41395

I'd be very surprised if anyone knew where this quote is from.

41396

The Chain Saw is kind of a double-edged sword. On the one hand, it has more attack power than the Drill, but on the other hand, the success rate of the insta-kill attack and the rate at which it occurs make it less than ideal for boss fights. I stick with my Drill for those.

41397

This guy isn't lying, he's just being kind of a horse's ass.

41398

Whereas THIS guy is full of sh:ffvising::ffvising:.

41399

And yet, this guy isn't technically lying either.

41401

I'm not saying I'm going to write a FF6 fanfic that starts right here, but I did have that idea.

41405

This is a rare example of an item that was totally unchanged from Woolsey's version.

41406

Zozo is not the first dungeon town in a JRPG, because Dragon Quest 1 had Hauksness, I believe, where you get the Armor.

41402

Fatal Fury reference.

41403

This :ffvising::ffvising::ffvising::ffvising:ing guy!!

414074140841409

He's an even bigger prick than Vargas. Stick it, Dadaluma!

41410

Wakey wakey, eggs and baccy

41411414124141341414

I wonder what Ramuh was puzzled by.

41415

So, Tina has a bit of an episode for a minute and then falls flat on her dumb face.

41416

SUSPENSE, DRAMA, INTRIGUE

41392

Yeah, what's the deal with that?

Spooniest

02-27-2013, 02:54 AM

41418

Yeah, whatever...we know better, don't we!

41419414204142141422

Is this meant to be an oblique reference to Final Fantasy IV, what with Rydia and the summoning and all that?

4142341424

"We were all pretty pissed off that we didn't see it coming."

4142541426

Tempted to make a Beavis and Butthead joke here, but no.

4142741428

"Cuz, you know, chicks dig powers."

414294143041431

This question had not occurred to me to ask when I read it for the first time, but I anticipated the answer just the same as anybody else.

41432

WTF?

4143341434

This conversation is considerably longer than anything that's come before, especially because the characters aren't moving or doing anything really while it's going on.

41435

The full version of this line is stored in the code to Final Fantasy III v1.0 (the original SNES release), but was unused in-game.

4143641437

Yeah, what gives?

4143841439

MAGIC EVERYWHERE IN THIS BITCH

4144041441
41417

Huh.