Anti-saggy pants campaigns and bans

[SuperMillionaire]

Metro - The Metropolitan Etiquette Authority: Politely policing streets (http://www.metro.us/newyork/local/article/968030--the-metropolitan-etiquette-authority-politely-policing-streets)

Artist Jay Shells Establishes the 'Metropolitan Etiquette Authority' - ANIMAL (http://animalnewyork.com/2011/artist-jay-shells-establishes-the-metropolitan-etiquette-authority/)

A common trend in hip hop fashion is to let your pants "sag" below your buttocks, exposing your boxers. The trend supposedly originated in prisons, which prohibited belts because they could be used for hanging themselves, or as assault weapons. (They have also found usage as spanking tools against children who misbehave.) A number of rappers and other hip hop artists have since popularized the sagging of pants below the hips.

Other people, however, are offended by seeing somebody else's underwear, and one man in New York City has established the Metropolitan Etiquette Authority, whose signs act as a campaign to remind both native New Yorkers and tourists alike about proper etiquette, and one of the signs tells you to pull up your pants, which is shown below:

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Other cities have also created campaigns to stop people from wearing saggy pants in public, and some have even taken a step further by implementing a full-on ban on saggy pants, which forcibly prohibits people from wearing their pants below their hips, and if they violate this law, they have to pay a fine. Schools in these cities have also made sagging a violation of the student dress code, and can result in detention or in-school suspension, as well as having the parents bring a change of clothes to their child's school.

In addition, there have also been anti-saggy pants songs as well. In the 2010 auditions for that year's season of American Idol, one auditioner in Atlanta, named General Larry Platt, used the auditions to promote his self-written song entitled "Pants on the Ground," which has inspired parodies by several celebrities, including Jimmy Fallon, impersonating Neil Young, on an episode of Late Night with Jimmy Fallon:

Pants On The Ground: Neil Young's Heart Wrenching Performance (VIDEO) (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/01/15/pants-on-the-ground-neil_n_424468.html)

Another song, entitled "Pull Your Pants Up," is a rap song made by 9-year-old Brooklyn boy rapper Amor "Lilman" Arteaga; the music video also features an appearance by Brooklyn borough president Marty Markowitz.

Flatbush rapper Amor Arteaga, 9, is creative force  behind music video titled: (http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/brooklyn/flatbush-rapper-amor-arteaga-9-creative-force-behind-music-video-titled-pull-ya-pants-article-1.1160862)

(I find both of these songs very amusing, but also very educational at the same time.)

Personally, I think that we should pull up our pants in public, because it is not nice to see somebody else's underwear (or worse, the crack of one's buttocks), and it should be kept private (though I also find it amusing at the same time). It's called "decency."

What are your thoughts?

[The Man]

oh no their boxers are showing

who cares?

[Formalhaut]

I find it more annoying than anything else. While sure, it's not exactly worth me violently lunging for them anytime I see it, it does reek of " *sigh*, yet again, someone below the age of 21 insists on not wearing a belt"

I'm not bothered about people who accidently show some boxers when their bending or crouching down, because that's just a fact of life. Below is a highly exaggerated example, but the only one I could find on Google images:

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But it's when they deliberately insist on doing it as like a fashion statement, like conscious choice.

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Now come on. He's STILL wearing a belt, yet chooses to show like over 70 percent boxer exposure. That's not fashion, that's just ill manners. I don't want to walk down the street seeing your boxers hanging off you thank you very much. :p

[Mirage]

Saggy pants look stupid as smurf. It should still shouldn't be banned. If someone bans this, I demand that everything I don't want to look at gets banned as well. No exceptions.

[Bunny]

Good thing I don't wear underwear!

[Tigmafuzz]

Good thing I don't wear underwear!

:erm:

[Raistlin]

Every year or so, an American town or two (generally in Florida) will try to ban the scourge of saggy pants. It's understandable, too; with all the other nation's problems solved, legislators need something to do. And reading the First Amendment of the Constitution is probably too much to ask of them.

[The Man]

generally in Floridahttp://www.freethought-forum.com/forum/images/smilies/Sigh_MisterIngo.gif

[NorthernChaosGod]

oh no their boxers are showing

who cares?

Basically.

All I know is that if anyone tried to pass something like that here, I'd tell them to go fuck themselves.

[qwertysaur]

Saggy pants just look bad. Unless the boxers are soiled. Then it looks terrible

[Yar]

I fully support one's choice to dress like an idiot in public. That why I can judge them rightly based on the shit they wear.

[Araciel]

How else would you tell which ones are female and which are male?

[blackmage_nuke]

I prefer plumber's crack to seeing boxers

[Shorty]

As long as I don't see an ass-crack, I really could not give a trout. Girls walk around with breasts coming up through tops and asses nearly hanging out of shorts, skirts and dresses. This is clothing that is showing. I could honestly not care less. Women do a lot worse with panties and bras and I think it's sexist to tell men to cover themselves up when women aren't bothered to do the same.

If you are offended, that is your own business. Society shouldn't cater to protecting the feelings of people who are bothered by clothing trends. Let the idiots walk around with their pants down to their knees if they feel like it.

[Formalhaut]

Oh, I wouldn't ban it. I'll just casually disapprove of it all the while.

Having said that, I agree with Shorty with that women can also dress wrongly in my eyes. One day I was on the bus and saw this girl who was younger than I am wearing a very low cut skirt. I don't mind adults wearing slightly revealing clothing, but when it gets to like 13 or 14 year olds, I do get slightly uneasy.

[Shorty]

I don't think that women dress wrongly, I think that the standards should be fair.

[Formalhaut]

I don't think that women dress wrongly, I think that the standards should be fair.

I must have misinterpreted what you said. Sorry :(

I get annoyed by men and women equally based on their clothing choices, is what I'm trying to say.

[Old Manus]

I think they should all sag their pants and march through the city. They could call it a 'sagwalk'.

[Shoeberto]

This all seems like dogwhistle racism.

"Now why don't you nice young fellers dress proper-like, just like us white folks?"

[Formalhaut]

This all seems like dogwhistle racism.

"Now why don't you nice young fellers dress proper-like, just like us white folks?"

Wearing your pants to your knees isn't just a black thing, I've seen all sorts of people from all ethnicities look absolutely stupid.

[Shiny]

It annoys when I see people with fitted jeans and them still hanging on their ass deliberately. It's so stupid. And it's not racist because white dudes do this just as much as black dudes. Do I think it should be banned? No. Nothing in fashion should be banned. If Lady Gaga can wear her stupid meat dresses then people should be allowed to let their stupid (clothed) asses hang out.

[Laddy]

Guys. Guys. It's important. Think of the children seeing a man's underwear. :I

[NeoCracker]

Well what if the man is wearing lady underwear?

[Laddy]

Kinky. :jokey:

[NeoCracker]

Here I am, trying to have a serious discussion with you about a mans choice in underware, and all you can do is make it about sex. You should be ashamed of yourself Laddy. :doublecolbert:

[Laddy]

It's only natural. Come on, you should expect these things from me now. :monster:

[Shauna]

This is dumb.

[Ouch!]

I reject your sense of decency and substitute my own!

In all seriousness, though. I don't care if some clown wants to look like an ass.

[SuperMillionaire]

Like I said, I also find it amusing at the same time. For me, it provokes a mixed reaction of disgust and amusement. I find it to be a source of comedy, and I laugh at it when I'm alone.

Sometimes, if one shows just the small tip of the underwear, that's okay, or when they sit down or bend over, like Formalhaut said, that's okay. But if they're doing it as a conscious choice for a fashion statement, to show the majority of their underwears, then it's bad, and if it's soiled, then it's really bad; either they pooped in their boxers, or they sat on something that was dirty.

[Jinx]

I've seen plenty of people who take part in this fashion trend, and never have I seen them wear boxers covered in shit.

[DownDiagonalLeftA]

But it's when they deliberately insist on doing it as like a fashion statement, like conscious choice.

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Now come on. He's STILL wearing a belt, yet chooses to show like over 70 percent boxer exposure. That's not fashion, that's just ill manners. I don't want to walk down the street seeing your boxers hanging off you thank you very much. :p

So many people do that over here. So fucking stupid.

[Mercen-X]

I don't really care, but it depends on the extremes. I once saw a guy whose look was so deliberate that his OVERSIZED pants started to fall to his knees if he walked too fast. He had to hold on to the waist with both hands when he ran to catch up with some friends. Pure idiocy!

[Pike]

I'm glad people around here don't do this sort of thing.

Although this thread did succeed in reminding me how amazing that Pants on the Ground song is.

[SuperMillionaire]

That guy probably should have used some suspenders, if not get another pair of tighter pants, unless he was doing it just as a publicity stunt, Mercen-X.

And yes, Pike, that Pants on the Ground song is funny. Did you listen to that other song by Amor "Lilman" Arteaga too? That song is also very funny, but also very educational; he's quite a talented kid, and a good role model for urban kids. I'm sure that you wouldn't want to see dirty underwears when you're walking down the street, now, would you?

[Shoden]

Its one thing seeing another bloke's kegs against your will when walking in the street and thinking "how can he walk?" but ANOTHER, when they have blatent skidmarks, After laughing uncontrollably for 2 maybes 3 minutes I realise how wrong it actually is... IT HAPPENS, FO REAL!

I have quite often shouted at some of these people "Pull your f'in pants up man". WHY do these people refuse to accept that looking like you just laid a turd in your pants and waddling along thinking its cool is infact just a load of rubbish?

Instead of banning them right, there should be a law making it legal to slap these people. Without reason. IT COULD WORK!

[I Took the Red Pill]

It's not their fault guys

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_0X1ggm5ZqsA/St5y5t8WMaI/AAAAAAAACMg/9Zb-oywEPXA/s1600/wtfohigetit.jpg

[Pheesh]

Honestly, I wear my pants relatively low. Nothing close to as bad as the picture examples in this thread, but if I lifted my shirt you would see the hem of my briefs and then some. I also wear boxer briefs which don't look nearly as bad as cotton or silk boxers that bunch up over the top of the pants.

I can see how those really low hanging pants are unappealing to some people, but I find it worse when I see someone with their pants hitched way up and a shirt tucked in to it (not counting formal or business wear obviously, cause that's how you have to wear it, and a jacket makes that okay). To each his own though.

[Pike]

I pull my pants up to my belly button.

No fucks given.

[SuperMillionaire]

If a belt doesn't work, they should start wearing suspenders, like I do.

[Pheesh]

Of course you do...

[Shauna]

rofl

[Aulayna]

But having a nice breeze around there is so soothing...

[~*~Celes~*~]

actually a couple of weeks ago i drove by a woman who had her pants practically down to he knees. >.> i think it's silly looking but they reserve the right.

[Unbreakable Will]

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[Pike]

Well that's a disturbing picture.

[Mikztsu]

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That is great. :minicid:

[SuperMillionaire]

Well that's a disturbing picture.

You got that right, Pike. The way that skeleton is shaped does kinda disturb me.

[Pheesh]

Suspenders disturb me >.>

[NorthernChaosGod]

What's wrong with suspenders? :O

[Pheesh]

Post a picture of yourself wearing suspenders and I will tell you :3

(Just the suspenders ;D)

[NorthernChaosGod]

You got it, bby. :aimkiss:

[Shorty]

Suspenders are amazing. You don't even know.


http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_ADH1O8oqn2w/TE5BaafWexI/AAAAAAAAAB4/1BDG08ehvkY/s1600/TheViridiAnneSuspendersA.jpg

http://shechive.files.wordpress.com/2010/02/male-suspenders-7.jpg

http://www.acausedesgarcons.com/images/acdgullielmmefigaro3_copie.jpg

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_8NjW1yZgSoI/S9rUzfJVWqI/AAAAAAAADGE/1uGW6R0rgek/s1600/suspenders.jpg

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_oTOXnQhYhEM/TLIpYYxpdPI/AAAAAAAACH8/4qsbn_xusOI/s1600/suspenders-andre-3000.jpg

http://www.teen.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/kevin-mchale-retro-1950s-style-suspenders.jpg

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_ADH1O8oqn2w/TE4-TaUHNKI/AAAAAAAAABw/rYaLT2q1lN8/s1600/suspenders-ben-whishaw.jpg

http://lefashionmonster.files.wordpress.com/2010/04/suspenders-turn-of-the-century-man.jpg


http://coffeeandcountries.files.wordpress.com/2010/07/lithgow_suspenders_72dpi.jpg

Disclaimer: I am a product of society. This is all of the rest of you peoples' fault, but it's mostly MILF's fault.

[NorthernChaosGod]

That first set (pair?) of suspenders is awful.

[Pheesh]

Thanks for proving my point for me, Sarah <3

[Shauna]

Mr Shauna and I just had a discussion about suspenders - we agree that it only looks good with business attire. :3

[Jinx]

That first set (pair?) of suspenders is awful.

[Pheesh]

The second one down is the only one that looks half decent.

[Jinx]

The second one down is the only one that looks half decent.

Dude, you and NCG are blowing my freaking mind with thinking the same things I am!


Yeah, just because you put suspenders on a hot guy doesn't mean they are sexy!

[The Man]

The only thing I can think of when I hear the word "suspenders" is the Lumberjack Song.

That said, suspenders aren't always terrible. Exhibit A:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/1/13/MalReynoldsFirefly.JPG

[Jinx]

Isn't that show slightly modeled after the American Frontier? xD

[The Man]

More than slightly.

[Jinx]

Yeah, so that doesn't count. xD

I mean, I could post a picture of Pa Ingalls for us to all drool over, but he's a fucking pioneer. xD

In current times, suspenders make you look like a tit. Unless, as someone pointed out, it's in a business setting. Which is why Guy Two looks decent.

[Shorty]

Suspenders are for the poised and those with class. You people wouldn't understand.

[Jinx]

Please be kind to Pontus and don't force him to wear them. :(

[Shorty]

He dresses himself. I can't help it if I slip some into his unmentionables drawer, though.

[Jinx]

They're just so thoroughly unmanly.

At least the way skinny, weird hipsters wear them these days.

[Shorty]

http://marshallmatlock.com/wp-content/gallery/mans-man-jon-hamm/thumbs/thumbs_jon%20hamm%20sucker%20punch%20suspenders%20glasses.png

Arguments against suspenders is invalid.

As a male, if at any point during your fashion dilemmas you find yourself wondering "Would Don Draper wear this?" and the answer is "yes," then you're doing it right.

[Jinx]

Well, I was going to mention the whole 1960s look.

But how many guys who look like that wear suspenders? Especially compared in number to the type of guy you posted in the first post?

[Shorty]

Since any number I would come up with would be pulled out of me ass, I can't really answer that, can I?

[Jinx]

Since any number I would come up with would be pulled out of me ass, I can't really answer that, can I?

Pulled out of your ass?

Pull your pants up!

Wear some suspenders.

;)

[Shorty]

Suspenders are for boys.

[I Took the Red Pill]

As a male, if at any point during your fashion dilemmas you find yourself wondering "Would Don Draper wear this?" and the answer is "yes," then you're doing it right.Unless, like nearly the entire Earth's population, you can't pull off suspenders or a fedora. So I disagree.

[NorthernChaosGod]

Jump off suspenders' dick, Sarah.

[TrollHunter]

There are people who actually defend suspenders?
This is news to me.

[blackmage_nuke]

90% of images depicting lumberjacks involve suspenders

[The Man]

5zey8567bcg


Dear Sir,

I wish to complain in the strongest possible terms about the song which you have just broadcast about the lumberjack who wears women's clothes. Many of my best friends are lumberjacks, and only a few of them are transvestites.

Yours faithfully,
Brigadier Sir Charles Arthur Strong (Mrs.)

P.S. I have never kissed the editor of the Radio Times.

[Shorty]

Jump off suspenders' dick, Sarah.

Watch your mouth or I'll strangle you with them.

[Unbreakable Will]

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Only assholes like this guy wear suspenders.
:colbert:

[The Man]

Piss off, Malcolm Reynolds is not an "asshole like [that] guy." Neither is Don Draper.

[Unbreakable Will]

I sense hostility. :chuckle:

[Night Fury]

DARREN CRISS

http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lihijjGiEw1qc6s4l.jpg

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-1-tKjvV2FSQ/URG4cMhpehI/AAAAAAAAB68/KEvuJKNkoq8/s1600/Darren+3.jpg

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[Shauna]

nope.jpg

[Pheesh]

Yeah, I can't criticise your overall taste that much for obvious reasons ( /smug), but those suspenders look shite.

[NorthernChaosGod]

I, however, can criticize your overall taste, Locky. Bleh.

[Jinx]

That first picture just proves my point that suspenders are not masculine.

[Shorty]

Suspenders were made for men. How is that not masculine? :confused: If there's anything in that photo that isn't quite masculine, it's the color of his pants.

Locky knows what's up.

[Pheesh]

Just because some good looking guys wear suspenders does not mean that suspenders look good.

[NorthernChaosGod]

Suspenders were made for men. How is that not masculine? :confused: If there's anything in that photo that isn't quite masculine, it's the color of his pants.

Locky knows what's up.

There is nothing masculine about Darren Criss. :p

[Jinx]

Suspenders were made for men. How is that not masculine? :confused: If there's anything in that photo that isn't quite masculine, it's the color of his pants.

Locky knows what's up.

There is nothing masculine about Darren Criss. :p

[Shorty]

I'm finding great amusement in the fact that people on a Final Fantasy message board are so adamant about what and who does or does not pose as a great symbol for masculinity!

[NorthernChaosGod]

I'm finding great amusement in the fact that people on a Final Fantasy message board are so adamant about what and who does or does not pose as a great symbol for masculinity!

I'm the one that said it and I'm all that is man.

[Shorty]

You're a manchild if I've ever met one. :aimkiss:

[NorthernChaosGod]

Well you're a hippie, so I still win. :colbert:

[Shorty]

Okay, Peter Pan. :aimkiss:

[Jinx]

I think he's more like Dale or Brennan from Step Brothers, tbh.

[NorthernChaosGod]

As long as I get the beautiful singing voice.

[Pheesh]

I'll be Brennon...

But you have to call me Dragon.

[nik0tine]

I can't believe you actually referred to a belt as an "assault weapon". A bright future awaits you in news.

[Jinx]

As long as I get the beautiful singing voice.


I'll be Brennon...

But you have to call me Dragon.

FIGHT!

[NorthernChaosGod]

I'll be Brennon...

But you have to call me Dragon.

You have to be Dale, asshat. :colbert:

[Pheesh]

Oh right, yeah, I got the names the wrong way around is all. SHUT UP!

[demarnval]

I love the idea of this. Definitely a must for decency.