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Agent Proto
02-06-2013, 08:55 PM
Okay, discussion time!

http://lgsafetyservices.webs.com/6Ft.StepLadder%5B1%5D.jpg

So, what is this thing called?


http://25.media.tumblr.com/d37a0d83e23339f1e904951a84db7a36/tumblr_mhtdfvYP9z1r2ucyjo1_500.jpg

Laddy
02-06-2013, 08:55 PM
A Laddy.

Formalhaut
02-06-2013, 09:10 PM
It's a ladder if it's one of those long ones.

It's a stepladder if it's those very short ones.

Jinx
02-06-2013, 09:16 PM
It's a ladder.

A stepladder has only two or three steps.

Futan
02-06-2013, 09:16 PM
I think technically you're right, pr00t, but like Formy &TB I distinguish them by height. :x A stepladder is only a few steps at most.

Agent Proto
02-06-2013, 09:29 PM
:pollbert:

Jinx
02-06-2013, 09:34 PM
Agent Proto: 75% wrong.

Shorty
02-06-2013, 10:03 PM
Formalhaut and TB are correct.

Bunny
02-06-2013, 10:16 PM
It is a stepladder.

A ladder is something that is leaned against a wall, house, or other solid object. A stepladder is something, like this, that can support itself.

Everyone in this thread has been wrong so far. Congratulations guys!

Faris
02-06-2013, 10:17 PM
Taller than I: ladder
Not as: step ladder.

NorthernChaosGod
02-07-2013, 01:24 AM
Bunny got it. Stepladders stand up of their own accord.

fire_of_avalon
02-07-2013, 01:32 AM
That's a stepladder.

Sephex
02-07-2013, 01:32 AM
Occasionally I will get real mad and yell that my stepladder isn't my real ladder.

Madame Adequate
02-07-2013, 01:39 AM
The debates that rouse us, ladies and gents.

Pumpkin
02-07-2013, 02:06 AM
What Bunny said.

Raistlin
02-07-2013, 02:27 AM
It's a ladder. I consider stepladders to only have a few steps.

And because this is an EoFF debate, I suppose I should add that everyone who disagrees with me is a terrible person who wants the terrorists to win and probably even agrees with NeoCracker's gaming opinions.

Del Murder
02-07-2013, 02:28 AM
It's a ladder. It only becomes a stepladder if its parents get remarried.

Madame Adequate
02-07-2013, 03:34 AM
I suppose I should add that everyone who disagrees with me is a terrible person who wants the terrorists to win and probably even agrees with NeoCracker's gaming opinions.

Whoa, hey, let's not say things we can't take back now.

Agent Proto
02-07-2013, 03:39 AM
It's too late for that.

Shauna
02-07-2013, 11:49 AM
If I were to refer to such an item in person, I'd just call it a ladder. However, I do realise that it is actually a stepladder. The extra word is too much hassle to actually say.

Loony BoB
02-07-2013, 12:07 PM
It's both. This is like asking if a cat is a mammal or an animal.

It's a ladder. It only becomes a stepladder if its parents get remarried.
Sephex beat you to it. I think it went right over most people's heads, though.

Night Fury
02-07-2013, 12:14 PM
it's a stairway

Tigmafuzz
02-07-2013, 06:41 PM
It's a banana.

NorthernChaosGod
02-07-2013, 07:02 PM
it's a stairway

To Heaven?

qwertysaur
02-07-2013, 07:07 PM
To be a ladder is must have rungs, not steps. If there are steps, then it is a stepladder.

Sometimes the answer is so obvious that you overlook it. :p

Rantz
02-07-2013, 07:19 PM
Let's compromise and call it an epladder.

Formalhaut
02-07-2013, 11:52 PM
Let's call it a Seppladder. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sepp_Blatter)

Vincent, Thunder God
02-08-2013, 12:49 AM
Actually legitimately misread this as Laddie or Stepladder.

Please update the poll accordingly. :bigsmile:

The Summoner of Leviathan
02-08-2013, 04:03 AM
It is a stepladder.

A ladder is something that is leaned against a wall, house, or other solid object. A stepladder is something, like this, that can support itself.

Everyone in this thread has been wrong so far. Congratulations guys!


Have my babies?

Mercen-X
02-08-2013, 04:25 AM
Occasionally I will get real mad and yell that my stepladder isn't my real ladder.


It's a ladder. It only becomes a stepladder if its parents get remarried.

Damn it! I was going to say shit like this but now it's unoriginal. Oh well. My friend hates his stepladder. He says they never spend any time together and he always is made to feel like shit. He wants his real ladder back. "_"

Loony BoB
02-08-2013, 09:05 AM
I still can't really figure out where Bunny and qwerty are getting their information that they're stating as fact. A step ladder is still a ladder. Try looking up 'stepladder' or 'step ladder' in a dictionary. ;) Ladder on Wikipedia also details the A-frame and the step ladder, while stepladder itself redirects to ladder.

NeoCracker
02-08-2013, 09:29 AM
It's a ladder. I consider stepladders to only have a few steps.

And because this is an EoFF debate, I suppose I should add that everyone who disagrees with me is a terrible person who wants the terrorists to win and probably even agrees with NeoCracker's gaming opinions.

I call it a ladder.

So then, do I not agree with myself? :confused:

Loony BoB
02-08-2013, 09:46 AM
Great, Raistlin. Way to open up a paradox. Now the world has to explode.

Agent Proto
02-08-2013, 12:19 PM
Well, sure. A ladder is a ladder, but this particular ladder is called a "stepladder," because it can support itself.

Loony BoB
02-08-2013, 01:10 PM
Exactly. Therefore, it's both. :monster:

Jinx
02-08-2013, 01:17 PM
A square is a rectangle, but a rectangle is not a square.


etc

Loony BoB
02-08-2013, 01:34 PM
A square is a rectangle, but not all rectangles are squares. Some are, though.

A stepladder is a ladder, but not all ladders are stepladders. Some are, though. Like the one in the picture. :D

EDIT: Did anyone else have to go through these kind of logic puzzles as part of an IQ test for high school, where they try to figure out which class you go in? xD

Pheesh
02-08-2013, 02:31 PM
I work in construction, and if you called that a step ladder on site you would get laughed at. Step ladders are small, ladders are tall, whether they lean against a wall or stand up as an A-frame. Also, proper A-frame ladders can be opened out straight and leaned up against a wall for extra height.

Jinx
02-08-2013, 02:57 PM
A square is a rectangle, but not all rectangles are squares. Some are, though.

A stepladder is a ladder, but not all ladders are stepladders. Some are, though. Like the one in the picture. :D

EDIT: Did anyone else have to go through these kind of logic puzzles as part of an IQ test for high school, where they try to figure out which class you go in? xD

If all Florbs are Floobs, and all Floobs are Glorps, are all Florbs Glorps?


I work in construction, and if you called that a step ladder on site you would get laughed at. Step ladders are small, ladders are tall, whether they lean against a wall or stand up as an A-frame. Also, proper A-frame ladders can be opened out straight and leaned up against a wall for extra height.

Phil has declared it so.

Clo
02-08-2013, 04:09 PM
I call it my bitch.

Loony BoB
02-08-2013, 05:16 PM
Boobs: Good to know I wasn't the only one. :D Also, yes. :D

I work in construction, and if you called that a step ladder on site you would get laughed at. Step ladders are small, ladders are tall, whether they lean against a wall or stand up as an A-frame. Also, proper A-frame ladders can be opened out straight and leaned up against a wall for extra height.
Yeah, absolutely, you would get laughed at over it! It doesn't make it any more or less correct, though. ;) If I was standing next to someone and wanted someone to get that for me, I would say "Can you bring that ladder over here?", but if asked "Is this a ladder... or a stepladder?" then I would still reply "Technically? Both."

Pheesh
02-09-2013, 12:12 AM
I should have been more clear, I'm saying that before loading up for a job or something, if someone asked you to get 'the stepladder' and you came back with a tall A-frame ladder like the one in the picture then you would have grabbed the wrong thing. That is not what construction workers mean when they say step ladder, they want a small, probably 3 or 4 rung max, ladder. Whether it is defined on Wikipedia as such really holds no bearing to how it is used in real life.

Mercen-X
02-09-2013, 02:54 AM
A square is a rectangle, but not all rectangles are squares. Some are, though.
A stepladder is a ladder, but not all ladders are stepladders. Some are, though.

All step-parents are parents, but not all parents are step-parents. Some are, though.
All step-children are children, but not all children are step-children. Some are, though.
All rectangles are polygons, but not all polygons are rectangles. Some are, though.
All prime numbers are real numbers, but not all real number are prime numbers. Some are, though.
All dvds are disks, but not all disks are dvds. Some are, though.

There is no end to this.

EDIT:
Also, my ladder left me. Now I have a stepladder. I miss my ladder.

NorthernChaosGod
02-09-2013, 09:56 PM
Why are there over 40 posts about this? Wtf brought up this discussion?

Agent Proto
02-09-2013, 10:55 PM
http://s3.amazonaws.com/data.tumblr.com/tumblr_ldaktxrc3C1qbep4mo1_1280.jpg?AWSAccessKeyId=AKIAI6WLSGT7Y3ET7ADQ&Expires=1360536881&Signature=vzXgNCF8hWwfonfIlV9kXr%2FJ7Wg%3D

Freya
02-10-2013, 12:17 AM
I've seen ladder too many times now that I don't think it's a real word any more and you're all crazy.

also http://www.photo-dictionary.com/photofiles/list/739/1155stepladder.jpg

Tigmafuzz
02-11-2013, 02:37 AM
http://s3.amazonaws.com/data.tumblr.com/tumblr_ldaktxrc3C1qbep4mo1_1280.jpg

Nobody said the terms were the same :colbert:

escobert
02-11-2013, 04:49 AM
It's a ladder.

A stepladder has only two or three steps.

Mercen-X
02-11-2013, 04:53 AM
http://s3.amazonaws.com/data.tumblr.com/tumblr_ldaktxrc3C1qbep4mo1_1280.jpg

Nobody said the terms were the same :colbert:

Chokey did

Pumpkin
02-11-2013, 04:54 AM
Step ladder | Define Step ladder at Dictionary.com (http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/step+ladder?s=t)




Step ladder
Noun
1. a ladder (http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/ladder) having flat steps (http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/step) or treads in place of rungs.

2. any ladder (http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/ladder), especially a tall one with a hinged frame opening up to form four supporting legs.

Tigmafuzz
02-11-2013, 08:47 AM
Step ladder | Define Step ladder at Dictionary.com (http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/step+ladder?s=t)



Step ladder
Noun
1. a ladder (http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/ladder) having flat steps (http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/step) or treads in place of rungs.

2. any ladder (http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/ladder), especially a tall one with a hinged frame opening up to form four supporting legs.


We've already established both of these things.


A ladder is something that is leaned against a wall, house, or other solid object. A stepladder is something, like this, that can support itself.


To be a ladder is must have rungs, not steps. If there are steps, then it is a stepladder.


THREAD OVER