Mafia XXV: Action Movie Badasses Game Thread Day 6

[[M] Kurt - Cool Dad]

Nicolas Cage;3237414']Docs can't self-protect

Huh, since when was this a rule? I have been under the impression that docs could self protect since the dawn of Mafia.

[[M] Elize]

I'm glad you picked up on that as well, Liam old chum. I thought my memory was failing me badly there. As far as I know Docs can self protect all game if they choose to do so!

[[M] Adama]

According to those Mafia flash things it says about Docs protecting themselves.

"Generally, the Doctor can not protect himself. Also, if the player is targeted by more than one killer, that player still dies, although some Moderators dispute this rule."

[[M] Elize]

I'm pretty sure as far as EoFF games go the Doc has always been able to self protect. I could be wrong, mind you, but I'm fairly certain that's the case.

[[M] D'Anna]

I've always had the assumption that Doctors could self-protect. Seeing how Samuel is probably now a transformed doctor from his psychiatrist role, it's conceivable that he protected himself.

[[M] Adama]

I has been quite a long time.

I looked through the archive and found a couple of times already where you would appear to be correct. I am sure if I looked at more, then I would find more

http://home.eyesonff.com/mafia/116023-mafia-again-game-over-mafia-win-edczxcvbnm-everyones-hero-3-a-13.html#post2464624

http://home.eyesonff.com/mafia/146626-anniversary-mafia-game-thread-final-day-64.html#post3171184

http://home.eyesonff.com/mafia/138280-mafia-xxi-day-5-silent-night-29.html#post3015968


Also, looking through these old threads with these same faces is weird!

[[M] Colette]

Dayum no body died? That's awesome but it makes me wonder if there is a doctor involved or mafia fucking with out heads.

[[M] Harry - Dad's Dad]

Dwayne I posted the final votecount a couple posts before you did. Also yours has another error. Sigourney switched her vote to Seagal right at the end.

[[M] D'Anna]

I'll let Jet Li do the postcounts from now on.

Careful though, you might be called scum for doing so. :p

[[M] Harry - Dad's Dad]

Speculating about why there was no nightkill is not going to help us at all, for two reasons.

1. Only the mafia know who the intended kill was for the night.
2. There are multiple reasons for why a kill can fail to happen. While doctor is the obvious one, there are other roles, like roleblocker, hider, and commuter that can lead to the same result.

Lets focus on what we do know, not what we don't.

[[M] Kurt - Cool Dad]

Hmm... I don't imagine that our glorious moderator will tell us whether doctors can self-protect or not. Still, it is certainly a comment to keep in mind as the game progresses. :p

So. no night kill. Many possibilities as to why (doctor, roleblocker, bulletproof, etc) but there's not much point in mulling over the why's for the moment. It could be anything, from what we know at the moment.

From what happened on D1, I am inclined to believe Sam L's town alignment. He was right about there being a psycho out there, and that's a pretty crazy specific thing to guess. Good show, sir.

Statham's role claim is crazy. I'm almost inclined to believe it because it's just so... out-there. Of course, since the claim has been made, he has to keep up the charade (?)! Whenever you get here, Mr Statham how did your role play out last night? What role did you choose? What did you do with these newfound skills?

Ohhh Mr Rock, no need to be so passive aggressive. We didn't think you were scummy just because you posted vote tallies. ;)

[[M] Harry - Dad's Dad]

Also because it was ignored the first time I'll say this again.


6 Steven Seagal : <s>Uma Thurman</s>, <s>Jason Statham</s>, Nicolas Cage, <s>Sigourney Weaver</s>, Dwayne Johnson, Arnold Schwarzenegger, Sylvester Stallone, Uma Thurman, Sigourney Weaver

This is a textbook bandwagon.

[[M] D'Anna]

I'm curious about the very sudden vote changes from Steakham to Seagull. Drawing up Jet Li's vastly more accurate votecount...

6 [M] Steven Seagal : <s style="color: rgb(255, 255, 255); background-color: rgb(0, 41, 66);">Uma Thurman, Jason Statham</s>, Nicolas Cage, <s style="color: rgb(255, 255, 255); background-color: rgb(0, 41, 66);">Sigourney Weaver</s>, Dwayne Johnson, Arnold Schwarzenegger, Sylvester Stallone, Uma Thurman, Sigourney Weaver

4 [M] Jason Statham : Daniel Craig, Samuel L. Jackson, <s style="color: rgb(255, 255, 255); background-color: rgb(0, 41, 66);">Sigourney Weaver</s>, <s style="color: rgb(255, 255, 255); background-color: rgb(0, 41, 66);">Uma Thurman</s>, Arnold Schwarzenegger, Steven Seagal


Based on this, the last two or so people to vote for Seagal was Thurman and Weaver. Both of these previously voted for Statham, and switched votes decidedly late in the day. The reasons they gave for such a switch was hardly detailed. Weaver's change occurred like, 9 minutes before the day ended, which ended the tie.


Well, for good reason. Seagal is highly suspicious.

###Unvote: Bruce Willis
###Vote: Steven Seagal

Seagal comment? You have yet to say much of anything today. Statham has his odd role claim, where your's?



##unvote: Statham
##vote: Seagal

I'll bite.


Thurman's comment in particular isn't exactly helpful. I find it curious that Statham's lynch was all but decided, but in the last hour of play, BOTH girls switch votes to Seagal.

Comments? Thoughts?

[[M] Harry - Dad's Dad]

I don't like how Sigourney demanded a roleclaim from Seagal minutes before the lynch. I will concede that she mentions her intention was to change it to Jason, but it was too little too late.

Roleclaiming, especially with power roles should be done with restraint, because it will end up helping the mafia more than the town in the long run. Like I mentioned how the mafia knew that Seagal was not part of the mafia, mafia members know who their teammates are, and thus by extension they know who is not in the mafia, ie: the town.

Town members very rarely will lie about their roleclaim, so the mafia can safely assume that the roleclaim is true. we can't though, because we don't have that crucial piece of information.

Finally the more the mafia know about the overall setup, they will be able to make their fake roleclaims more convincing.

[[M] Harry - Dad's Dad]

Sigourney Weaver;3237425']
Steven Seagal;3236766']I do not think the late additions of Stallone and Diesel mean that they must be vanilla. They could be a power role, mafia, have a special role without night actions like miller or beloved princess, or be a third party role. I'm not speculating about what their roles are, just pointing out that it's not safe to assume anything yet.

Also be careful about speculating Arnolds role based on how he is playing. It's classic WIFOM.

WIFOM - MafiaWiki (http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=WIFOM)

He says don't go for inactives and late additions. No, it does not mean they are Vanilla. Which also means don't trust these two new people either. :kakapo:

He was obviously protecting Vin Diesel.

And with that said, definitely don't rule out that there may be more than one psychopath as it doesn't say serial killer so we don't know the exacts of the role. Maybe Sammy J. can shed some light on that. :aimkiss:
This is a nice post to pick apart.

Seagal never said don't go after inactives. he said that the town should focus more on people who are active. There is a subtle difference between the two.

The next part is that nice contradiction. Sigourney points out that Seagal said not to assume that late additions are vanilla. Then goes on to say that Seagal was "obviously" protecting Vin Diesel.

There is no real way to say this politely without it losing it's impact. You are dead wrong. Seagal flipped Psychopath. That's a third party role who wants to kill everyone else, not protect them. Also how is saying that someone is not cleared of suspicion protecting them? Seagal was saying that late introductions should be suspected.

Final point. The possibility of multiple Psychopaths. I highly doubt that there would be more than one psychopath. That would mean a possible three kills in a single night, all from roles that are not town. That is a huge amount for a game of this size and throws out any possibility of balance. Seagal was the only psychopath.

You are trying to get the town to go after a red herring instead of focusing on finding the actual mafia.

##Vote: Sigourney Weaver

[[M] Ron - Cop Dad]

I switched my vote to Seagal because Seagal was already the first on my list a suspicious people. It isn't bandwagon voting when I was the first person to call him on his bullshit. Nice try though baddy. ;)

It was a toss up between Statham and Seagal, which one was more of a threat. Seagal was more convincing and therefore more of a threat. With Seagal out of the way I can now turn my attention back to another obvious bullshitter.

Jason Statham :aimkiss:

I must admit you had me fooled at first. Your role is highly nonsensical. You can switch your roles if you switch your votes? Is that what you're saying? So pray tell, what role did you switch to last night. Answer wisely because I will know you are lying depending on how you answer.

[[M] Ron - Cop Dad]

So say you are right Jet Li, Seagal was the only third party. Then you are absolutely correct that nothing he said actually matters but I still wouldn't rule out that he was acting alone.

[[M] Ron - Cop Dad]

I also read that post wrong, Seagal did actually say don't assume late additions aren't vanilla, you are correct. I am reading these posts fast from my phone. I got things to do. When I get on a computer I can read over again and better access where to go from there.

[[M] Trevor - Gay Dad]

I've never seen a game where a doc could self-protect, since if they can they'd obviously use their protect on the only person they could be certain was town -- themselves. A self-protect-capable doctor is essentially a neutrealised doctor as far as the rest of the town is concerned.

[[M] Trevor - Gay Dad]

EBWOP: Of course, if docs can self-protect this game, then we need Sammy doing just that so we can keep a semi-confirmed townie until lylo or the last of the scum is lynched.

[[M] Mom – Host]

1 [M] Sigourney Weaver : [M] Jet Li

16 hours 20 minutes left.

[[M] Harry - Dad's Dad]

Sigourney Weaver;3237524']So say you are right Jet Li, Seagal was the only third party. Then you are absolutely correct that nothing he said actually matters but I still wouldn't rule out that he was acting alone.
Woah I never said that everything Seagal said doesn't matter. Seagal was third party, he wanted everyone dead. That does include the mafia, so naturally he would want them dead just as much as the actual town. And Serial Killers act alone. It's the nature of their role.



Nicolas Cage;3237527']I've never seen a game where a doc could self-protect, since if they can they'd obviously use their protect on the only person they could be certain was town -- themselves. A self-protect-capable doctor is essentially a neutrealised doctor as far as the rest of the town is concerned.
I've seen various stipulations on doctor protection. Some say the doctor can't protect the same person twice in a row. Some say no self protection. And others have no limits at all. Variations on roles is at the discretion of the host.

And a self protect capable doctor is by no means neutralized. While he/she can only protect him/herself and essentaily be night kill immune, self protection can also be used to help ensure nightkills are avoided until the doctor can find another power role like the cop.

[[M] Trevor - Gay Dad]

I'm still thinking that it's more likely that we have a reg doc who protected Sammy. Look at his posts yesterday, he thought he was going to die. If he thought he could self-protect and had the intention to do so, he wouldn't have been so sure.

It's not impossible that Sam self-protected any more than it's impossible that he's scum who made a ridiculously unlikely correct guess about the existence of a psychopath, but occam's razor suggests that neither is the case.

One way to clear it up:

@Sam: Who did you target last night?

Everyone else: If you disbelieve Sammy's answer, you're mad. Luckily we have a shrink in this game.

[[M] D'Anna]

Nicolas Cage;3237533']Look at his posts yesterday, he thought he was going to die. If he thought he could self-protect and had the intention to do so, he wouldn't have been so sure.

Unless he was just bluffing that he was going to die to try and fool the Mafia into thinking he was defenceless. Just a thought.

[[M] D'Anna]

And I have to agree with Jet Li on Weaver. I never really thought much of her during Day 0 and during the first half of Day 1, but her more recent actions piqued my attention, particularly with the last-minute role switch and Jet Li's autopsy of one her posts.

This vote might change based on who I'm more sure about is scum, but definitely for now:

##VOTE: Sigourney Weaver

[[M] Kurt - Cool Dad]

It is often a stipulation of specialist doctor roles (such as the psychiatrist or w/e) that they do not have protective function until their opposite is caught (in this case the psychopath).
So at the time of his acceptance of death, Sam had no knowledge that the first lynch would be the psycho, and he wouldn't have had the ability to protect anyone. I'm not saying that he definitely protected himself or anything, I mean, we don't know who the mafia targeted. It may not have even been Sammy L.

This is a silly line of discussion, too many unknown factors. :p

I am curious about Sigourney's idea that there could be multiple psychopaths working together. Where did this line of thought come from?

[[M] Greg - Hot Dad]

A lot to think about.

Anyway, looks like our third party killer is gone, so I don't think we'll be seeing multiple deaths on occassions, but it's still possible that we might have a vig, especially one with a trigger happy finger. It's doubtful, but still possible.

[[M] Ron - Cop Dad]

Ok, on a computer. I got that theory from Cult Mafia where they could recruit people. Maybe I am over thinking, and it is more likely there is just one psychopath, but I refuse to rule out anything this early in the game until I have confirmation.

The only confirmation I have in this game so far is that I'm Town, Seagal was bad as I thought, and that Jason is also bad. Bad people go for good people, and I know I am good. Bad people go for good people Jet, which now makes you on my list of bad people. ;)

You could very well be a good person who admittedly saw the flawed logic in my mispost, but you failed to see the rest the of my posts detailing the reasons why I voted for Seagal, and now why I am gun ho on Statham based on his shoddy role claim from yesterday. So either you are a horrible towner, or more likely, Mafia.

Sammy J. said killer, he did not specify what the stipulations were to the killer type role or even if he knows the stipulations, so I will wait to hear. If Seagal is in fact the only one, then time is being wasted discussing him and most of what he said really doesn't matter as he wouldn't know who is Town and who is Mafia, and has no allegiance to either.

Sam has curing powers he says, but that doesn't mean he can cure himself. He can only cure the serial killer/psychopath if we're going by the flash. But yes, he could have been bluffing as it's weird to role claim and put yourself out there so early in the game. Either way no one died last night, so we know we have the upper hand today. He doesn't have to confirm the curing stipulations to his role and shouldn't. I do want answers about the psychopath because he didn't say yesterday that it was that role. Give me all the easy answers, thanks.

Ofcourse I don't want seemingly non-suspicious people with roles that can help Town to role claim. Are you mad Jet Li? I knew Seagal was suspicious which is why I waiting to hear his defense and seeing if it would be more or less convincing than Statham's. If someone is suspicious often times whatever defense/role claim they have will pin point their bull.

Vote for me if you want. It would be a dumb move for Town. But I can die, and I assure you everything that I say will matter. ;)

Time is being wasted on lynching Jason Statham, high on my suspicious list. :aimkiss:

I also find suspicious
Anyone under the radar
Brucey Willis
Will Smith
Nicolas Cage - now out of the woodwork

Dwanye I don't trust you either because your vote tallying and appearing to be helpful to Town with minimal effort is exactly what Seagal was doing, and exactly what Statham is doing. That vote tallying thing was done before and the person came up red. You'd think that after that people would stop trying that.

[[M] Ron - Cop Dad]

Oh almost forgot,

#Vote: Jason Statham

[Laddy]

In my regular account. Deal.

2 [M] Sigourney Weaver : [M] Jet Li, [M] Dwayne Johnson

1 [M] Jason Statham : [M] Sigourney Weaver

[[M] D'Anna]

Excuse me? It's ridiculous thinking that someone who is eager to help anyway their can is suspicious. Would you rather me not help at all? I could do a Bruce Willis and spout nonsense if you like. And helping out is hard. I can't vote analyse like the rest of you guys can. I am trying to help, but I can't do a forensic examination of posts, I'm just not good enough to do that. All I can do is give generalised comments and sort of "point" people in the right direction. I pointed out the late day actions of Weaver and Thurman which grabbed my attention, and Jet Li noticed and ripped one of Weaver's posts to shreds.


You'd think that after that people would stop trying that

This is my second game of Mafia, ever. I thought doing vote tallies was just the done thing, no?

[[M] Ron - Cop Dad]

Pin pointing and analyzing is really the only thing that would be helpful to town, not vote tallying. Isn't that the mod's job anyway?

[[M] Trevor - Gay Dad]

It really should be only the host doing vote tallies, since his alignment is known to be neutral and a simple mathematical error won't be interpreted as a scumtell.

[[M] D'Anna]

Whelp, sorry then. :(

[[M] Trevor - Gay Dad]

It doesn't bother me, you're the one risking getting pegged as scum, erroneously or otherwise.

[[M] Ron - Cop Dad]

Stop helping the rookie.

Forgot to mention Vin Diesel, who is also on my suspicious list, is grossly under the radar.

[[M] Colette]

Gurl why are you hating on me? I also do not believe your role call or anyone's for that matter.

##Vote Story Book Weaver

[[M] Ron - Cop Dad]

My problem with you Will, aside from the fact that you're not inside me, is that you don't actually do anything aside from vote. You just posts things like this. How is Town going to win when only a few people want to do their homework? :lol:


Will Smith;3236394']Brothas gotta stand together and unite against the mafia. All aliensmafia please come forward and identify yourselves.

I REPEAT: ALL MAFIA PLEASE COME FORWARD AND IDENTIFY YOURSELVES. We do not need to have a big situation here, am I right?

...No one? Dang that never works. Alright which one of yall is being most cuckoo?


Will Smith;3236767']Fresh Price Log. Day 1:

Man there was some smurfed up trout that happened on day 0. Don’t think any of us expected no one to get killed off after all that. Guess those who came in late or kept quiet are the lucky ones as none of them were trying to convince others who was mafia or not. The sun has yet to go down after more than 36 hours so our minds are all a bit frazzled. Now Arnie gets a few votes, so he can vote for two different people or try extra hard to down someone.

Coming in on Day 1 we FINALLY got some ladies to appear and daaaaaammmmm man are they fine. Thank goodness too because Samuel L. Jackson was starting to look really sexy in that pink wig. Mr. Statham is acting really cuckoo so my hunch is that either he’s trying to get lynched to win (whatever that role is called someone remind me) or he just likes being a little trout disturber. I don’t have any solid ideas on anyone else right now. Maybe once I get a chance to really read between the lines and kill off a few more aliens or zombies I’ll have a better idea. Got hit on the head a lot for drumming a random white lady’s boobies today. My partners suck sometimes.

Hopefully the mafia will not be cliché with their kill tonight.

[[M] Ron - Cop Dad]

And I did not role call. I don't even know what that is unless you mean role claim...

http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m5z9og3uzj1ql141xo1_250.gif

[[M] Colette]

Oh crap, that reminds me! I need to do a Day two log or do a huge long post suggesting that all of your are scum. Which one to do...

[[M] Colette]

TOH-MAY-TOES TOH-MAH-TOES :mad2:

[[M] Eizen]

As much as I would love to be around today as things are getting quite silly... today is going to be my busiest day of the week. I wont be back for about 5 hours or so sadly :\
I MAY be able to make a quick summary of my thoughts when I get back before I go to bed but no promises.

If this gets me labeled as scum then so be it, I got stuff to do.

Also Will, you so crazy.

[[M] Ron - Cop Dad]

:erm:

[[M] Mom – Host]

3 [M] Sigourney Weaver : [M] Jet Li, [M] Dwayne Johnson, [M] Will Smith

1 [M] Jason Statham : [M] Sigourney Weaver

17 hours, 20 minutes left.

[[M] Colette]

Actually I don't have a lot of time to do much today because of life. :(

Fresh Prince log Day 2:

Liam Neeson - Dude seems alright for now, he's pretty much under the radar but still suspicious.

Dwayne Johnson - Dude is pretty defensive and his skills for making the tally look pretty is bitchin' Keeping track of the tally is not an easy task. He's rather suspicious though.

Sigourney Weaver - ROLE CLAIM as townie. Happy, suspicious lady?

Arnold Schwarzenegger - Acted weird on day one, chilled on real day one. iiiinteresting.

Daniel Craig - You're busy dude, I get that but you're on my list too. Everyone is suspicious, can't you tell?

Samuel L Jackson - Where have you been all day? I need my suspicious pink hair dance for the day :(

Bruce Willis - He's in a bunny suit. SUSPICIOUS!

Jason Statham - "Aspiring Leading Man" Psh :roll2 I've got my eye on you, bub.

Will Smith - SUSPICIOUS!! Oh wait, that's me :shobon:

Clint Eastwood - Comes and goes, not sure what to think except what I think of everyone else.

Uma Thurman - Yeah pretty much think the same about you

Nicolas Cage - aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaannnnd you.

Steven Seagal - Dammit, he turned out to be a psychopath and that dude seemed cool. Okay it was only because he remembered a term I didn't.

Jet Lag - Oh hi new person.

??????? - WHERE IS OTHER NEW PERSON? :(

Why can't we just all pursue happiness and love each other? Also I missed out on cake for this post HATE YOU ALL! :nonono:

[[M] Harry - Dad's Dad]

I have not closely read all of days 0 and 1 yet. I will do so when I'm at my own computer. 500 posts in 2 days is a lot of information to peruse. Your post just jumped out at me when I saw it.

I also get bad vibes from Will Smith. I will be keeping an eye on him.

Dwayne, the only way you are going to learn how to play mafia is to get your hands dirty. If you are in the town, read the thread and if you see something that doesn't add up or flawed logic then quote it and explain why you think it's important. If you are in the mafia please die now ask for advice in the mafia forum about what your team is planning, but your basic goal is to destroy the town without getting caught. Everyone playing was a mafia noob once.

[[M] Harry - Dad's Dad]

Weird, I thought [strike] was a tag. Oh well.

[[M] Trevor - Gay Dad]

Sigourney Weaver;3237575']Stop helping the rookie.

##Vote: Weaver

I'll help anyone I think is town. Derp-fueled mislynches are bad for my wincon.

[[M] Ron - Cop Dad]

Mmmmhrmmm, what makes you think he's town? Just because he claims to be a rookie or are you just protecting your own? I'm way too lazy/busy to lead the town to do the right thing, so if I can do that in death then so be it.

Lynch Jason Statham.

##Unvote: Jason Statham
##Vote: Myself

[[M] Ron - Cop Dad]

Will Smith;3237607']
Sigourney Weaver - ROLE CLAIM as townie. Happy, suspicious lady?

I didn't claim townie, I claimed I was town. There's a difference. It means I am on the side of the town.

[Laddy]

5 [M] Sigourney Weaver : [M] Jet Li, [M] Dwayne Johnson, [M] Will Smith, [M] Nicolas Cage, [M] Sigourney Weaver

0 [M] Jason Statham : [M] Sigourney Weaver

[[M] Trevor - Gay Dad]

Sigourney Weaver;3237627']Mmmmhrmmm, what makes you think he's town?

#35 (http://home.eyesonff.com/wonder-square/149499-mafia-xxv-action-movie-badasses-game-thread-night-1-more-like-deadgal-ammirite.html#post3236320) : Pressuring Seagal and answering questions to try to move beyond the issue of voting inactives instead of active scum reads. +
#43 (http://home.eyesonff.com/wonder-square/149499-mafia-xxv-action-movie-badasses-game-thread-night-1-more-like-deadgal-ammirite.html#post3236342): Caution about assuming you know more than you actually do reads town to me. +

#45 is where I posted my townread on The Rock, and nothing's happened since then to change my mind.

Self-voting is anti-town, dawg.

[[M] Gaius]

Sounds like something a scared mafia would do. Dunno though.

I was (sorta) right about the one badguy, and I think I'm still right about my other vote. So for now I'm sticking with:

##vote:Statham

Also, this game is never going to end...we get two new people every day and we've had 1 death total. lol I wonder if Laddy threw these new guys in because he was pissed at us for killing his psycho day1.

[[M] Trevor - Gay Dad]

The game will end. All we have to do is kill all the scum.

[[M] Ron - Cop Dad]

Those links all lead to the same page.

Self voting is not anti-town. Reason being, I have nothing to worry about as me dying would only incriminate bad people. People who want to live are anti-town, with far less people on their side, and thus have every right to want to defend themselves. The problem is though that me dying so early on would hurt more than help town, but if I can take one scum down with me then so be it. It may lead to many more. ;)

[[M] D'Anna]

Sigourney Weaver;3237640']Reason being, I have nothing to worry about as me dying would only incriminate bad people.

However there's also a degree of collateral damage involved as well. Let's quickly examine who is voting for you:


5 [M] Sigourney Weaver : [M] Jet Li, [M] Dwayne Johnson, [M] Will Smith, [M] Nicolas Cage, [M] Sigourney Weaver


Excluding you (obviously) there's four people voting for you. I'd say at least one of them is Mafia. While technically (given increased numbers) ALL FOUR of them could be Mafia, which might incriminate them, really? No. I'd say one, maybe two Mafia in there, and that's pushing it.

By you dying, you say you would incriminate bad people, but you might end up falsely incriminating good people as well. Even if you do flip town, it may end up hurting the town more than assisting it.

Besides, self-voting is more of a Mafia thing. Better push yourself under a bus than have a Mafia teammate incriminate himself pushing you under one.

[[M] Trevor - Gay Dad]

Sigourney Weaver;3237640']Those links all lead to the same page.

Yes, but different posts on that page, with the post numbers noted in that link.


Sigourney Weaver;3237640']
Self voting is not anti-town. Reason being, I have nothing to worry about as me dying would only incriminate bad people. People who want to live are anti-town, with far less people on their side, and thus have every right to want to defend themselves. The problem is though that me dying so early on would hurt more than help town, but if I can take one scum down with me then so be it. It may lead to many more. ;)

Are you drunk?

Put yourself in the position who got a town role PM.

Excepting cases like Sammy where your role signals the existence of another role, if you have a town role PM, you know the alignment of exactly one (1) player: yourself. Mislynches are bad for town. Selfvoting increases the likelihood of a mislynch of the only person you know to be confirmed town: yourself. If you help lynch yourself, then the town cannot lynch scum the same day, and the town needs to lynch scum to win.

Anything you do that leads to lynching someone you know is town is by definition antitown.

Although I can see how that logic wouldn't occur to you if you got a scum role PM.

[[M] Mom – Host]

No they were part of the original set-up and I finally got the opportunity to add them! xD

Anyway...

5 [M] Sigourney Weaver : [M] Jet Li, [M] Dwayne Johnson, [M] Will Smith, [M] Nicolas Cage, [M] Sigourney Weaver

1 [M] Jason Statham : [M] Sigourney Weaver, [M] Arnold Schwarzenegger

15 hours and 45 minutes left.

[[M] Ron - Cop Dad]

Nicolas Cage;3237643']
Sigourney Weaver;3237640']Those links all lead to the same page.

Yes, but different posts on that page, with the post numbers noted in that link.


Sigourney Weaver;3237640']
Self voting is not anti-town. Reason being, I have nothing to worry about as me dying would only incriminate bad people. People who want to live are anti-town, with far less people on their side, and thus have every right to want to defend themselves. The problem is though that me dying so early on would hurt more than help town, but if I can take one scum down with me then so be it. It may lead to many more. ;)

Are you drunk?

Put yourself in the position who got a town role PM.

Excepting cases like Sammy where your role signals the existence of another role, if you have a town role PM, you know the alignment of exactly one (1) player: yourself. Mislynches are bad for town. Selfvoting increases the likelihood of a mislynch of the only person you know to be confirmed town: yourself. If you help lynch yourself, then the town cannot lynch scum the same day, and the town needs to lynch scum to win.

Anything you do that leads to lynching someone you know is town is by definition antitown.

Although I can see how that logic wouldn't occur to you if you got a scum role PM.
I'm sober.

You do have a point, a mislynch would be bad especially considering I am entirely too important to die, but my logic is that since town still outnumbers Mafia by a good number this early on, me dying is okay as it will incriminate more scum and the person who wreaks of the scummy, which is Jason. The only flip side to it is that the town who are being manipulated by the scum to vote for me will then be put on the chopping block. Scum will use their vote against me to try to put them up on the chopping block.

[[M] Gaius]

Don't twist her arm! She really wants to vote for herself....
[/sarcasm]

Weaver you keep hinting that you're somehow special to us, do you want to say why? I'm voting for Statham regardless, but I'd like to know if you're hinting because you're frustrated that attention's on you when you know what you can do for town or because you're mafia trying to sound like a poor wittle townie getting persecuted.

[[M] Ron - Cop Dad]

I just said I'm not a townie, so why would I act like a "poor little townie". :lol:

Now I know why Sam was so frustrated with you guys Jesus Christ. How many hints do I have to give? I said that Jason is confirmed bad. Do you need me to draw you a picture?

Role claiming 15 hours in to the day, yeah what's the point? I know that if I role claim I'm dead or definitely a a target atleast. Eventually I will if I must, because let's say (let's hope) that there is a Doctor, and that's why we have no night kills. I will help town and I am by telling you to kill Statham. You don't need to know why right now just know it's confirmed. :greenie:

[[M] Trevor - Gay Dad]

Sigourney Weaver;3237651']
You do have a point, a mislynch would be bad especially considering I am entirely too important to die, but my logic is that since town still outnumbers Mafia by a good number this early on, me dying is okay as it will incriminate more scum and the person who wreaks of the scummy, which is Jason. The only flip side to it is that the town who are being manipulated by the scum to vote for me will then be put on the chopping block. Scum will use their vote against me to try to put them up on the chopping block.

You're talking like everyone on your wagon will be autolynched. The town isn't going to lynch someone purely because they voted in favour of a mislynch. Town can be wrong on reads, every townie understands this. Voting to lynch you convicts nobody. Especially if you flip scum, as I am becoming more and more certain you will with each post.

[[M] Ron - Cop Dad]

Nicolas Cage;3237660'] Voting to lynch you convicts nobody. Especially if you flip scum, as I am becoming more and more certain you will with each post.
Wrong, it convicts Jason. Ofcourse not everyone will be lynched who votes me and probably not everyone voting for me is scum. I'm not saying that, but the people who I pin pointed as being suspicious will be under scrutiny.

[[M] Gaius]

Not really trying to convince you to roleclaim so much as, but if you must sacrifice yourself at least roleclaim first, and see what happens, instead of just killing yourself.

Hints, it seems to me, are stupid bullshit in this. You don't know the relative experiences of the mafia vs townies. How do you know that the mafia won't pick up on your hints while the townies miss it completely? And how is that helpful?

I'm not accusing you of anything Weaver, I just don't know wth you're saying. I don't see where you said just now that you weren't a townie. And I don't know what that even means. How could you be for the town but not a townie and have somehow perfect knowledge that Statham's mafia? What combination of super powers is that?

I swear I've read the role faq. I swear it. I don't know how I keep missing shit.

[[M] Ron - Cop Dad]

Nicolas Cage;3237660'] Town can be wrong on reads, every townie understands this. Voting to lynch you convicts nobody.
Ofcourse a scum would say this because you know how I will turn up, so you're covering your own ass at this point.

[[M] Gaius]

Sigourney Weaver;3237664']
Nicolas Cage;3237660'] Town can be wrong on reads, every townie understands this. Voting to lynch you convicts nobody.
Ofcourse a scum would say this because you know how I will turn up, so you're covering your own ass at this point.

You saying Cage is scum too? Is this another case of you knowing for sure, or you just suspect him?

[[M] Adama]

I am willing to go with you claim Weaver. If you are what you claim you are then I think it is a more important role than Statham's role. Given the choice between those two I would choose you instead. But first we need to see Jason show up and throw down with nonsense and tell us more about what he picked, why and all that jazz. There is always the chance you are still scum and are just trying to survive one more day but there is still some time left.

[[M] Harry - Dad's Dad]

##Unvote

[[M] D'Anna]

Sigourney Weaver;3237659']I just said I'm not a townie, so why would I act like a "poor little townie". :lol:

So you say your not a townie, but that you are trying to help the town. Wha? I'm confused. And don't blame me for being green, seriously everyone's talking in riddles.

[[M] Gaius]

Dammit, I don't understand. Weaver didn't claim a role, did she? She just says she knows Statham is mafia. Now I'm fine with that since I think Statham's mafia, but i don't understand the weird half-claim thing going on.

[[M] Ron - Cop Dad]

Okay so it seems I really do have to draw a picture. Geeze-us.:kakapo:

I didn't want to have to do this Day 2, 14 hours in to the day. Oh well.
I am the mothesmurfing Cop. I investigated Statham last night. He came up guilty. Happy now?

You can say oh you might be paranoid or insane cop, whatever. I won't know that unless I either die or Jason is lynched. Statham was already suspicious to me and many others, and that's why I'm thinking I am just the normal cop. Welp, I'm dead unless there's a Doc, but even then now that Mafia know this I'm definitely getting lynched today. See y'all later I guess.

[[M] Harry - Dad's Dad]

I get exactly what Siggy is saying. I'm not going to spell it out though out of respect for her.

[[M] Harry - Dad's Dad]

Or she can claim. Now the doctor and the mafia will have fun mind games tonight.

[[M] Adama]

*sigh*

http://www.0-60mag.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/09/double-facepalm.gif

[[M] Harry - Dad's Dad]

She was dropping hints on her role all throughout day 2. I believe her claim

##Vote: Jason Statham.

[[M] Gaius]

How is a cop not a townie?

Also, I don't see why you'd be lynched, we should far outnumber the mafia at this point.

[[M] Harry - Dad's Dad]

I do think it was too early to claim though.

[[M] Trevor - Gay Dad]

GDI how did I miss that.

##Unvote
#Vote: Statham

[[M] Adama]

Ugh...I really should use that preview button I suppose >.>

42407

[[M] Mom – Host]

3 [M] Sigourney Weaver : [M] Jet Li, [M] Dwayne Johnson, [M] Will Smith, [M] Nicolas Cage, [M] Sigourney Weaver

3 [M] Jason Statham : [M] Sigourney Weaver, [M] Arnold Schwarzenegger, [M] Jet Li, [M] Nicolas Cage

14 hours 20 minutes.

[[M] D'Anna]

Arnold Schwarzenegger;3237683']Also, I don't see why you'd be lynched, we should far outnumber the mafia at this point.

If there is a protective role out there (might be Samuel) then you might be protected during the night. Siggy is being very self-defeatist. :|

And where the hell is everybody? Samuel's not turned up, nor has any of the other townspeople that were so prominent on Day 1.

[[M] Apollo]

Sorry I've been gone all day. Give me a minute and I'll address some things and share the results of my "audition".

[[M] Dee]

Cop claim? I believe it, no reason for mafia to make that claim today.

##vote: Statham

[[M] Gaius]

If Weaver's not Statham's buddy pulling some wild reverse-double-reverse-psycho-trick stunt, then a-ha, I knew I was right about him. Follow the gut, man.

[[M] Ron - Cop Dad]

Y'alll are not gonna make me lose my cool. Nope, nope, nope. I almost posted a frustrated wthjsitw post about you guys being entirely too oblivious when people drop hints or completely failing it.

You thought Sam was Vig and me townie. I just can't even. Townie is a Vanilla.

Dear god.

[[M] Trevor - Gay Dad]

OK, Teddy, so I might not have formatted my vote properly, but I did format my unvote properly.

##Vote: Statham

Better?

[[M] Dee]

Also to those who've been saying I've been active; I'm sorry I haven't had time to make long winded posts, but I've been keeping up if that makes you all feel better :p. I think I'm going to change the account I have registered to my phone so I can post mobile in this thread.

[[M] D'Anna]

Hmm.

##Unvote: Sigourney Weaver

I'm wondering how Jason's crazy roleclaim is going to pan out. :p

[[M] Dee]

Sigourney Weaver;3237693']Y'alll are not gonna make me lose my cool. Nope, nope, nope. I almost posted a frustrated wthjsitw post about you guys being entirely too oblivious when people drop hints or completely failing it.

You thought Sam was Vig and me townie. I just can't even. Townie is a Vanilla.

Dear god.

When people don't take a hint, you should drop it in the future. Here's to hoping we have a doctor that can protect you.

[[M] Trevor - Gay Dad]

Uma Thurman;3237698']Here's to hoping we have a doctor that can protect you.

We do: Samuel L.

[[M] Mom – Host]

2 [M] Sigourney Weaver : [M] Jet Li, [M] Dwayne Johnson, [M] Will Smith, [M] Nicolas Cage, [M] Sigourney Weaver

4 [M] Jason Statham : [M] Sigourney Weaver, [M] Arnold Schwarzenegger, [M] Jet Li, [M] Nicolas Cage, [M] Uma Thurman

[[M] Gaius]

Well frankly you're sounding like a meany there Weaver, not all of us have played this enough times to know everything about everything. Do a better job of hinting perhaps. Nobody made you roleclaim, my vote was already on Statham. Nowhere in the role-faq linked to by this or the sign-up is there a sign that says townie=vanilla. To me, townie meant good guys, mafia meant bad guys. I've used it this way enough times that if anyone with a little experience was paying attention they maybe could have said something, corrected me.

[[M] Dee]

Nicolas Cage;3237699']
Uma Thurman;3237698']Here's to hoping we have a doctor that can protect you.

We do: Samuel L.

Hrm? Where was that claim?

[[M] Ron - Cop Dad]

He didn't claim that. Are you trolling me now?

Why is there no other frustrated gifs of Signourney Weaver? I will just have to keep using the face palm one.

He said he had curing powers for the killer. He never came in here confirming that he could protect other people.

[[M] Gaius]

Uma Thurman;3237702']
Nicolas Cage;3237699']
Uma Thurman;3237698']Here's to hoping we have a doctor that can protect you.

We do: Samuel L.

Hrm? Where was that claim?

Based on his foreknowledge that there was a third party killer (i.e. Seagal), he must have been the SK's antithesis.

[[M] Trevor - Gay Dad]

Uma Thurman;3237702']
Nicolas Cage;3237699']
Uma Thurman;3237698']Here's to hoping we have a doctor that can protect you.

We do: Samuel L.

Hrm? Where was that claim?

He claimed shrink yesterday, that's how he knew there was a third-party killer, which proved to be correct; once the psychopath is cured/killed, the shrink becomes a regular doc in most rulesets. Sam L. can confirm or deny this when he gets his ass online, but I guess he was so sure he was going to die that he's not paying attention today.

[[M] Dee]

Ah so Nic Cage was theorizing our Dr. Strike one.

[[M] D'Anna]

Arnold Schwarzenegger;3237701']Well frankly you're sounding like an arrogant prick very annoying person there Weaver, not all of us have played this enough times to know everything about everything. do a better smurfing job of hinting perhaps. Nobody made you roleclaim, my vote was already on Statham. Nowhere in the role-faq linked to by this or the sign-up is there a sign that says townie=vanilla. To me, townie meant good guys, mafia meant bad guys. I've used it this way enough times that if anyone with a little experience was paying attention they maybe could have said something, corrected me.

While perhaps the wording was strong, in general, yeah.

Sorry for being new to this :crying:

[[M] Gaius]

I thought that the psychiatrist (the healer of the psychopath) turned into a doctor after the psycopath's death (or cure). I think that was the assumption...

[[M] Trevor - Gay Dad]

Uma Thurman;3237706']Ah so Nic Cage was theorizing our Dr. Strike one.

Lay on, MacDuff, and damn'd be him that first cries, 'Hold, enough!'

[[M] Apollo]

This has been a busy day for me and I don't know if I'll be able to keep up like earlier. (I was really hoping for this game to start a week earlier but oh well.) I was actually pretty shocked to have survived yesterday with a few last minute switches. I didn't expect you guys to believe me, because well this is not the most conventional role. But I assure you I am not making this crap up. And yes I did a "part" and I will get to that.

First off I want to say that it looks like Sam was telling the truth after all. I was pretty convinced that he was giving us a load of crap and hiding it in his silly gimmick but the presence of a Paychopath all but confirms that he is what he says he is. So even though I think he's annoying, I don't think he's scum at this point.

I did get assigned a role last night and it was the role of "Gunsmith". I was able to investigate someone and find out if they have a gun. I thought Weaver's vote switching near the end of the day was highly suspicious so I decided to target her. The result I got: Sigourney Weaver has a gun.

Now, this doesn't mean she's scum. She could be a cop, a vig, or even a gunsmith. But that coupled with her erratic voting has me worried.

That brings me to my first point. I found Weaver's behavior at the very end to be highly supicious. Her vote switch came without much explanation. That alone would have been mild, because maybe she believed my roleclaim and didn't want to kill off a town power player. However, it's this post that bugs me:

Sigourney Weaver;3237219']Oh goddamnit I was just about to change my vote to Statham after reading over his claim again. Oh well, bye I guess.
I always mistrust posts made after the close of the day to say "I would have voted [this guy]" because they're pretty much free game. With the day over you aren't subject to the scrutinzation that you would normally get. This post seems like she was trying to straddle the fence to make sure she had an out once one of the two choices (me or Seagal) flipped town. Yes, Seagal was bad, but the mafia wouldn't know that.

There's one thing stopping me from voting her, though: I don't know why the mafia would come in and do a last-minute vote switch when both players were not on their team. Instead they would just be content to let the day play out.

My second point right now is about Dwayne "The Rock" Johnson. That guy does nothing but smile and post "helpful" vote tallies and a lot of fence stradling and agreeing with others. No real analysis of his own. Reminds me of Rocky Maivia more than The Rock, ya jabroni.

##Vote: The Rock

I will need to switch my votes to audition for a new "part" but for now this is my best bet and if nothing changes I will end up here in the end.

[[M] Dee]

Nicolas Cage;3237709']
Uma Thurman;3237706']Ah so Nic Cage was theorizing our Dr. Strike one.

Lay on, MacDuff, and damn'd be him that first cries, 'Hold, enough!'

;) Come at me bro.

[[M] Gaius]

Uma Thurman;3237711']
Nicolas Cage;3237709']
Uma Thurman;3237706']Ah so Nic Cage was theorizing our Dr. Strike one.

Lay on, MacDuff, and damn'd be him that first cries, 'Hold, enough!'

;) Come at me bro.

Which scene in Macbeth is that, Uma?

Is anyone believing Statham's nonsense?

[[M] Ron - Cop Dad]

Jason Statham;3237710']This has been a busy day for me and I don't know if I'll be able to keep up like earlier. (I was really hoping for this game to start a week earlier but oh well.) I was actually pretty shocked to have survived yesterday with a few last minute switches. I didn't expect you guys to believe me, because well this is not the most conventional role. But I assure you I am not making this crap up. And yes I did a "part" and I will get to that.

First off I want to say that it looks like Sam was telling the truth after all. I was pretty convinced that he was giving us a load of crap and hiding it in his silly gimmick but the presence of a Paychopath all but confirms that he is what he says he is. So even though I think he's annoying, I don't think he's scum at this point.

I did get assigned a role last night and it was the role of "Gunsmith". I was able to investigate someone and find out if they have a gun. I thought Weaver's vote switching near the end of the day was highly suspicious so I decided to target her. The result I got: Sigourney Weaver has a gun.

Now, this doesn't mean she's scum. She could be a cop, a vig, or even a gunsmith. But that coupled with her erratic voting has me worried.

You're right and you should be worried.

##daykill: Jason Statham

[[M] D'Anna]

Arnold Schwarzenegger;3237712']Is anyone believing Statham's nonsense?

I find it hilarious to be perfectly honest. It appears so incredulous, so nonsensical that there's a very small chance that it might be true.

Of course, that might just be me 'wanting' it to be true on account of how crazy it sounds.

[[M] Dee]

Arnold Schwarzenegger;3237712']
Uma Thurman;3237711']
Nicolas Cage;3237709']
Uma Thurman;3237706']Ah so Nic Cage was theorizing our Dr. Strike one.

Lay on, MacDuff, and damn'd be him that first cries, 'Hold, enough!'

;) Come at me bro.

Which scene in Macbeth is that, Uma?

Is anyone believing Statham's nonsense?

It's in MacBeth 2.

No I don't think so.

Also, pre-empting Nic Cage's "UMA ONLY BANDWAGONS" nonsense, I pinnned Statham as possible scum in my first post.

[[M] Ron - Cop Dad]

http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lphg7pKfcs1qjutm4o1_400.gif

[[M] Ron - Cop Dad]

Damnit, gif isn't working.

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y35/wh1pst1ckag0st0p/Animated%20Gifs/WeaverGotGame-1.gif

[[M] D'Anna]

Sigourney Weaver;3237713']##daykill: Jason Statham

Is this like a cancer, that grows from person to person? The amount of daykills we've had this game already...

[[M] Ron - Cop Dad]

Mines is real tho.

[[M] Ron - Cop Dad]

I wish. :(

[[M] D'Anna]

Sigourney Weaver;3237719']Mines is real tho.

I remember Uma saying the exact same thing in Day 1. To be honest, everyone's pretending and riddling and dropping hints so many damn times it's like I'm watching Inception and I don't know what to believe.

[[M] Mom – Host]

The entire film was a dream, btw.

[[M] Trevor - Gay Dad]

Sigourney Weaver;3237713']
##daykill: Jason Statham

Does every bloody player have to make this lame-ass joke? Is it required by law?

I suppose I'll get it out of the way now then so I can say I've done my civic duty.

##daykill: the president of the hair club for men

There. Over and done with. CAN WE STOP NOW?

[[M] D'Anna]

Nicolas Cage;3237723']Does every bloody player have to make this lame-ass joke? Is it required by law?

I suppose I'll get it out of the way now then so I can say I've done my civic duty.

##daykill: the president of the hair club for men

There. Over and done with. CAN WE STOP NOW?

I know. It's frigging annoying if you ask me. I feel like an idiot for thinking it might be legit. That, on top of being called an idiot in the first place!

##Daykill: ##Daykill.

[[M] Greg - Hot Dad]

I knew something sounded a bit fishy about Statham's role, and been reading through the day, and his newly recent claim for that "gunsmith" role he "won", it doesn't... I don't know, doesn't sound plausable, especially with that "cop" on his ass calling him guilty. I'm inclined to believe Sigourney.

And what's up with our confirmed shrink/doc Mr. Jackson? He's been pretty much absent the entire day? Is he taking a breather from an active Day 1 performance? Seems a little odd to me, so I thought I'd mention that as well. Anyway, don't want to forget my vote.

##Vote: Jason Statham

[[M] Gaius]

I wish I could kill, now would be a good time to pull one off lol.

[[M] Ron - Cop Dad]

Dwayne Johnson;3237714']
Arnold Schwarzenegger;3237712']Is anyone believing Statham's nonsense?

I find it hilarious to be perfectly honest. It appears so incredulous, so nonsensical that there's a very small chance that it might be true.

Of course, that might just be me 'wanting' it to be true on account of how crazy it sounds.

Oh now all the sudden you want to look that his nonsense. REALLY? I was saying look at it from Day 1. Before it was Weaver did this Weaver did that. Now that my ass is on the chopping block now you guys suddenly want to change your tune? I told you guys I'm dead.

Even if we have a Doctor, if it is Sam, he's dead too give or take a few days because he would have to be able to guess when they target him or target me. The only way I have a chance to survive is if Sam isn't the Dcotor, and it's somebody else who scum won't be able to tell who it is. I wouldn't have role claimed if I did haven't an inkling that there was a protective role.

[[M] Ron - Cop Dad]

Dwayne Johnson;3237724']
Nicolas Cage;3237723']Does every bloody player have to make this lame-ass joke? Is it required by law?

I suppose I'll get it out of the way now then so I can say I've done my civic duty.

##daykill: the president of the hair club for men

There. Over and done with. CAN WE STOP NOW?

I know. It's frigging annoying if you ask me. I feel like an idiot for thinking it might be legit. That, on top of being called an idiot in the first place!

##Daykill: ##Daykill.
It's hilarious when people buy it. :lol:

You know it would've been perfect timing and awesome.

[[M] Ron - Cop Dad]

But enough.

Back to killing Jason.

##Unvote: Signourney Weaver
##Vote: Jason Statham

[[M] D'Anna]

Sigourney Weaver;3237727'Oh now all the sudden you want to look that his nonsense. REALLY? I was saying look at it from Day 1. Before it was Weaver did this Weaver did that. Now that my ass is on the chopping block now you guys suddenly want to change your tune? I told you guys I'm dead.


Jesus, someone might want a lie down. Don't want to cause a coronary.

[[M] Mom – Host]

1 [M] Sigourney Weaver : [M] Jet Li, [M] Dwayne Johnson, [M] Will Smith, [M] Nicolas Cage, [M] Sigourney Weaver

6 [M] Jason Statham : [M] Sigourney Weaver, [M] Arnold Schwarzenegger, [M] Jet Li, [M] Nicolas Cage, [M] Uma Thurman, [M] Sylvester Stallone

1 [M] Dwayne Johnson : [M] Jason Statham

13 hours, 48 minutes.

[[M] Gaius]

I know I lashed out at Weaver, but it wasn't because I think she's scum, she was just being jerkish. You, however, Johnson, bandwagon mugged Weaver, which is really odd, and seems out of character for you, and I think is scummy. Just saying. One thing at a time though.
1. Seagal
2. Statham
3. Johnson

[[M] Apollo]

Ok after reading through the thread I see Weaver actually claimed Cop. Since that happened before I even posted I'm inclined to believe it. Though it is quite early to claim such an important role and a very convenient claim when the heat is on.

And I'm assuming the reason she targeted me is due to a "guilty" result? I can't explain that, but there are many reasons an innocent player can get a "guilty" result, such as: insane cop, paranoid cop, or even a mafia framer. So why go so aggressive on me without confirming your own sanity first? It doesn't make any sense and it's very reckless. If you are some kind of Cop, you have pretty much screwed us over by being so careless.

My second vote goes towards Liam Neeson. He's one of those players who's been lying low and only contributing here and there. He rarely goes full forward with his opinions and because of that no one really suspects him. I think he is a very clever mafia.

##Unvote: Dwayne Johnson
##Vote: Liam Neeson

I know I'll probably die because you'll believe Weaver's traditional claim over my ludicrous one but I hope I can help the town as much as I can before I go. I got to use my cool role once, and that's pretty good considering what I was faced with.

[[M] Apollo]

Man you guys type fast.

[[M] D'Anna]

Arnold Schwarzenegger;3237732']I know I lashed out at Weaver, but it wasn't because I think she's scum, she was just being jerkish. You, however, Johnson, bandwagon mugged Weaver, which is really odd, and seems out of character for you, and I think is scummy. Just saying. One thing at a time though.
1. Seagal
2. Statham
3. Johnson

Sorry what? Bandwagoned? Hardly. I was one of the first people to pick up on several discrepancies with Weaver's account of things. I'd say Will Smith and Nicolas Cage bandwagoned more than anything. I gave a full and frank reason for me voting for Weaver: #513

That's not bandwagoning, that's using logic and analysing which many people on here keep saying I should be using more of. Meanwhile, Will Smith pops up for a moment, votes for Weaver saying naff all, and then disappears. Now that's bandwagoning.

Besides, I'm now convinced that Weaver probably isn't scum, and I unvoted.

[[M] D'Anna]

#513 (http://home.eyesonff.com/wonder-square/149499-mafia-xxv-action-movie-badasses-game-thread-night-1-more-like-deadgal-ammirite-18.html) Whoops.

[[M] Ron - Cop Dad]

Jason Statham;3237733']
I know I'll probably die because you'll believe Weaver's traditional claim over my ludicrous one but I hope I can help the town as much as I can before I go. I got to use my cool role once, and that's pretty good considering what I was faced with.
No, you will die because you came up as guilty and acted guilty before I even investigated you. If you come up as not guilty, then I will know I am insane, or god forbid paranoid. If I get paranoid I will have to beat the shit out of Laddy for giving me a shoddy role. Hypothetically speaking ofcourse. ilu Laddy. <3

[[M] Gaius]

Didn't say you bandwagon voted for her, I said you bandwagon attacked her. Try again.

[[M] Gaius]

ugh, the sun's in my eyes

[[M] Trevor - Gay Dad]

Arnold Schwarzenegger;3237732']I know I lashed out at Weaver, but it wasn't because I think she's scum, she was just being jerkish. You, however, Johnson, bandwagon mugged Weaver, which is really odd, and seems out of character for you, and I think is scummy. Just saying. One thing at a time though.
1. Seagal
2. Statham
3. Johnson

Quoting this so we don't forget it after the flip.

Lining up lynches is a scumtell.

[[M] Gaius]

What do you mean?

[[M] Apollo]

Dwayne Johnson;3237487']I'm curious about the very sudden vote changes from Steakham to Seagull. Drawing up Jet Li's vastly more accurate votecount...

6 [M] Steven Seagal : <s style="color: rgb(255, 255, 255); background-color: rgb(0, 41, 66);">Uma Thurman, Jason Statham</s>, Nicolas Cage, <s style="color: rgb(255, 255, 255); background-color: rgb(0, 41, 66);">Sigourney Weaver</s>, Dwayne Johnson, Arnold Schwarzenegger, Sylvester Stallone, Uma Thurman, Sigourney Weaver

4 [M] Jason Statham : Daniel Craig, Samuel L. Jackson, <s style="color: rgb(255, 255, 255); background-color: rgb(0, 41, 66);">Sigourney Weaver</s>, <s style="color: rgb(255, 255, 255); background-color: rgb(0, 41, 66);">Uma Thurman</s>, Arnold Schwarzenegger, Steven Seagal


Based on this, the last two or so people to vote for Seagal was Thurman and Weaver. Both of these previously voted for Statham, and switched votes decidedly late in the day. The reasons they gave for such a switch was hardly detailed. Weaver's change occurred like, 9 minutes before the day ended, which ended the tie.


Well, for good reason. Seagal is highly suspicious.

###Unvote: Bruce Willis
###Vote: Steven Seagal

Seagal comment? You have yet to say much of anything today. Statham has his odd role claim, where your's?



##unvote: Statham
##vote: Seagal

I'll bite.


Thurman's comment in particular isn't exactly helpful. I find it curious that Statham's lynch was all but decided, but in the last hour of play, BOTH girls switch votes to Seagal.

Comments? Thoughts?
Since you mentioned this post I thought I'd quote it. And this is a very textbook post from you. You post your little "helpful" vote tally and end the post asking for other people's opinions. If you were town, you wouldn't trust any of them or care about their opinions. It is only because you are a mafia that you ask that because again you are trying to seem like "one of them".

Not buying it.

Also, this vote is just for kicks. I plan to change it as soon as someone makes a post.

##Unvote: Liam Neeson
##Vote: Sigourney Weaver

[[M] D'Anna]

Arnold Schwarzenegger;3237738']Didn't say you bandwagon voted for her, I said you bandwagon attacked her. Try again.

Attacking suggests that I put no thought in my posts and just blindly went after her like a rabid dog. Instead, I used logic and reasoning to deduce several concerns, that I voiced out to the group. Shame on me for trying to get to the bottom of things..

[[M] Ron - Cop Dad]

I also find it extremely interesting and convienant that you used your role on me because it's very easy to do so now that I'm claimed.

You see, I was waiting for you to claim such nonsense. I called you out on what you did last night and no sooner than right after I claimed here you claiming you investigated me and I had a gun. You knew I would be able to call your bluff as I said,


Depending on what you say, I'll know you're lying.

That's why you waited until after I claimed before saying your piece.

I must admit your role claim is clever and wasn't entirely unbelievable, but you never answered Eastwood's question on whether you know what role you're going to get before it's given to you giving you even more leeway and convenience of changing it to fit what occurs on the day.

[[M] Apollo]

Well I can answer that now: I don't know what role I will get. I actually liken it more to Inventor than Jack of All Trades. My roles are randomly assigned to me at night. I got a pm from Teddy saying that I "pleased the casting director and was awarded the part of Gunsmith." Then it went on to say what Gunsmith does.

I know my claim was convenient but it's the truth. I suspected you. I investigated you. I got "has a gun". It's also the truth that I was busy all day and couldn't get here sooner. I think you're being a bit rash with your decisions and I don't think it will help us in the end. It certainly won't help today once we get to the end of it.

Seriously, what cop in a game of EoFF mafia claims on Day 2 after a single guilty result? That's bizarre and I'm disappointed. It doesn't help that you're pretty arrogant about it too.

Also, since there's been a post:

##Unvote: Weaver
##Vote: Dwayne Johnson

That's 3 switches which is enough for me to try this again on the off chance I survive again. I realize that is low probability but might as well try, right?

[[M] Ron - Cop Dad]

No where in the thread the day of did you suspect me, so interesting that you say you choose to investigate me.

[[M] Elize]

As outlandish as it seems, Statham's role claim is a possibility alright. More than the role itself the reason I'm struggling to believe it, and I hate to do this because it's the worst kind of mafia game play, is because he's using the exact same gambit as he did last time. It's all a bit co-incidental old chap.

[[M] Apollo]

Sigourney Weaver;3237747']No where in the thread the day of did you suspect me, so interesting that you say you choose to investigate me.
That's because my suspicion came due to what you did at the end of the day. Read my earlier post.

[[M] Apollo]

Bruce Willis;3237748']As outlandish as it seems, Statham's role claim is a possibility alright. More than the role itself the reason I'm struggling to believe it, and I hate to do this because it's the worst kind of mafia game play, is because he's using the exact same gambit as he did last time. It's all a bit co-incidental old chap.
What gambit? Who do you think I am?

[[M] Gaius]

Oh lovely, let's add metagaming to the mix.

[[M] Trevor - Gay Dad]

Arnold Schwarzenegger;3237741']What do you mean?

You're suggesting that we disregard the flip instead of capitalising on the additional information it provides? Not the kind of thought I'd expect coming from a town mindset.

Scum are also statistically more given to lining up lynches than town.

[[M] Gaius]

Oh, I see what you're saying. lol, I wasn't laying out a plan for us, I was just threatening Johnson. Basically saying: we got Seagal, we've got Statham, you're next. Wasn't really trying to set anything up. :cool:

[[M] Elize]

The whole gunsmith thing, old bean. It's giving me a rather distinct sense of deja vu. Like I already said, I'm not entirely ready to just dismiss your role claim as being bunk just yet, because the random "do things to get an assigned power" is something that's been used before, as I said it just all rings a bit familiar for me.

I want you to convince me somehow, though. I'm not quite ready to swallow the cop claim just yet. I want to believe. In you. After all, you've still not learned manners yet.

[[M] Ron - Cop Dad]

Jason Statham;3237749']
Sigourney Weaver;3237747']No where in the thread the day of did you suspect me, so interesting that you say you choose to investigate me.
That's because my suspicion came due to what you did at the end of the day. Read my earlier post.
Again, convenient.

I didn't suspect you Jason Day 0, but I certaintly suspected you Day 1, and I would think that out of all the people that were on your list as suspects from either of those days, it would have made more sense for you to investigate them, but you're saying by my last vote switch at the very end that I'm suspicious. Let me explain that to you.

I didn't entirely trust that Sammy J. was telling the truth about the psycho thing until Seagal flipped, so my thinking was that one of you would likely flip Mafia. The question was, which one? I was hoping Seagal would come in to seal the deal of which one of you was more worth the vote.

Then Seagal came up as psychopath, so when this happened, I knew I had to investigate you as you were on my high list of possible Mafia. I understand my flip flop came at the last minute, but it was literally last minute that I was reading over all of the posts again. I blame myself for not doing so from the get go instead of lazily skimming over your role posts, but I had things to do. Actually should be doing things right now. This game is not going to get me fired.

Ofcourse it's early to role claim, but I had no other choice but to spell it out as people could not get the fact that I had said you were confirmed bad and I was important. Seriously why do you need bigger hints than that?

You guys would've blindly lynched your cop, completely ignoring everything that ensued with you the day before. Like I said, yes this is early, but I wouldn't have done it if there wasn't a chance I'd be protected. It's better to find out sooner than later if I am insane or paranoid though. You being the only one I investigated so far, I'll know what the deal is and so will everyone else. You flip bad, I'm a normal cop, and I investigate another person who let's say comes up not guilty. Then BAM, I'm a normal cop. Here's hoping it doesn't get complicated and the next person I investigate (if I don't get killed that is) is guilty too, then I'd have to say maybe I'm paranoid still. I'd just have to keep going as long as I could. I don't really have much of a choice now, but to make this decision as you are suspicious and I need to 100 percent confirmation of my role.

[[M] Mom – Host]

1 [M] Sigourney Weaver : [M] Jet Li, [M] Dwayne Johnson, [M] Will Smith, [M] Nicolas Cage, [M] Sigourney Weaver, [M] Jason Statham

6 [M] Jason Statham : [M] Sigourney Weaver, [M] Arnold Schwarzenegger, [M] Jet Li, [M] Nicolas Cage, [M] Uma Thurman, [M] Sylvester Stallone

1 [M] Dwayne Johnson : [M] Jason Statham

0 [M] Liam Neeson : [M] Jason Statham


12 hours, 46 minutes.

[[M] Dee]

Weaver, stop being so damn arrogant.

[[M] Ron - Cop Dad]

http://i1122.photobucket.com/albums/l532/Charrizda/Well-excuse-me-Princess-Well-excuse.jpg

How is saying I'm unsure of my role yet arrogant? I just know what I was told by the mod and going by that.

[[M] Apollo]

Bruce Willis;3237762']The whole gunsmith thing, old bean. It's giving me a rather distinct sense of deja vu. Like I already said, I'm not entirely ready to just dismiss your role claim as being bunk just yet, because the random "do things to get an assigned power" is something that's been used before, as I said it just all rings a bit familiar for me.

I want you to convince me somehow, though. I'm not quite ready to swallow the cop claim just yet. I want to believe. In you. After all, you've still not learned manners yet.
I'm not really sure what's left for me to say to convince you.

I did try to play a little differently this time, like you have. Since I got a role that pretty much dictated me to be active, I decided to play it up a bit and be more active than I typically am in the first few days. I had little to lose. I went a little 'full on' because I wanted to stir the pot and get people active, since that is what we need to figure out the scumbags. I was a bit disappointed that it resulted in me getting a lot of Day 1 votes, but that's mafia. If I go now it will hurt the town, but at least it will confirm Weaver is not a Sane Cop, or maybe not a Cop at all. All I know is that she has a gun. As a mafia she would have no reason to make a cop claim at this point, but stranger strategies have been played.

It would be too risky to vote her out, but again I want to also point out it's risky to vote me out on one freaking result. That's why I say we vote that slippery Johnson, and give me and Weaver a chance to get more information.

My biggest mistake was probably getting so blinded by Jackson's gimmickry pointless confusion over third parties that I was sure it was a trick.

[[M] Gaius]

Speaking of Jackson, where the hell is he? Kind of annoying/disconcerting that he hasn't shown up today at all.

[[M] Ron - Cop Dad]

What information could you get though? You may end up getting a shoddy non-investigative or non-protective role if you live tonight that won't really help. Let's say you are telling the truth, but do you have restrictions to what roles you can get like for instance, can you not get roles that are already in play?

[[M] Apollo]

Sigourney Weaver;3237763']I didn't suspect you Jason Day 0, but I certaintly suspected you Day 1, and I would think that out of all the people that were on your list as suspects from either of those days, it would have made more sense for you to investigate them, but you're saying by my last vote switch at the very end that I'm suspicious. Let me explain that to you.
My top suspects were Sam Jackson and Seagal throughout the day. One died, and the other was pretty much confirmed by the death. Yes, I did vote for some others but those feelings were mild and mainly to get discussion going. Your behavior at the end of the day was enough to tip the scales. Your explanation for it is certainly plausible now, but I didn't have it when I had to make my decision. It was late, I had just gotten the role, so I made a snap decision based on what I had just read.

[[M] Ron - Cop Dad]

I really don't buy it though Stat Stat especially since you waited until after I role claimed to say you investigated me. If I had role claimed Gay Fairy Ballerina Whore you would've said afterward that I had a filthy tutu. It's hard to believe you after the fact.

[[M] Apollo]

Sigourney Weaver;3237775']What information could you get though? You may end up getting a shoddy non-investigative or non-protective role if you live tonight that won't really help. Let's say you are telling the truth, but do you have restrictions to what roles you can get like for instance, can you not get roles that are already in play?
Oh, I don't presume to get an investigative role each time. As far as I know the roles are completely random. It just says I audition for a "role". I don't want to directly quote the pm too much because that's not in the spirit of the game, but that's what it says.

What I meant by information is that I will gladly share what role I got and what I did with it (if anything). That's information for the town to decide if I'm a liar or not, and, hopefully it's a useful role that actually provides real information.

[[M] Ron - Cop Dad]

Jason Statham;3237776']
Sigourney Weaver;3237763']I didn't suspect you Jason Day 0, but I certaintly suspected you Day 1, and I would think that out of all the people that were on your list as suspects from either of those days, it would have made more sense for you to investigate them, but you're saying by my last vote switch at the very end that I'm suspicious. Let me explain that to you.
My top suspects were Sam Jackson and Seagal throughout the day. One died, and the other was pretty much confirmed by the death. Yes, I did vote for some others but those feelings were mild and mainly to get discussion going. Your behavior at the end of the day was enough to tip the scales. Your explanation for it is certainly plausible now, but I didn't have it when I had to make my decision. It was late, I had just gotten the role, so I made a snap decision based on what I had just read.
You also suspected Vin Diesel and Bruce Willis whom were still suspicious by the end of that day.

They are still suspicious now because they're lying low. They read thread and when enticed, they come about. I don't trust lurkers.

[[M] Apollo]

Sigourney Weaver;3237777']I really don't buy it though Stat Stat especially since you waited until after I role claimed to say you investigated me. If I had role claimed Gay Fairy Ballerina Whore you would've said afterward that I had a filthy tutu. It's hard to believe you after the fact.
Oh I completely understand that, and unfortunately that's what happens on a busy schedule. I really have nothing I can say to that except that I would have had the same result regardless of what you posted and it's just a matter if you believe me and will give me another chance, or not.

[[M] Elize]

Dear mafia players, see how our "cop" still tries to claim I'm laying low and compares me to Vin Diesel, who has appeared in our wonderful town 6 times, compared to my fluffy self who has been here (including this time) 44! In fact there are actually ten of you who have been around less than I have. Yet the "cop" would have you believe I'm lying low. Just admit it, Sig, you got nothing on me. If you're going to go after me at least use something that isn't blatantly untrue. :shobon:

[[M] Apollo]

Sigourney Weaver;3237780']You also suspected Vin Diesel and Bruce Willis whom were still suspicious by the end of that day.

They are still suspicious now because they're lying low. They read thread and when enticed, they come about. I don't trust lurkers.
I agree, though in my recent conversations with Bruce, I don't get scum vibes. He's clever, though, so he could be anything. I definitely think Diesel is someone to be wary of since he's been lying low and flying under the radar.

I will go review his posts now and see if anything pops up.

[[M] Mom – Host]

You guys are a sassy bunch of badasses. :x

11 hours, 58 minutes.

[[M] Apollo]

Well, since the guy only has 6 posts, I decided to just quote them all.

Vin Diesel;3236454']So it seems like so far we've just had typical first day shenanigans, which doesn't give me much to go on, but is it me or is there something wrong with the last vote count put up? 3 for Arnie but only 2 people, 2 for Clint but 3 people... Possibly a mistake, or someone has a vote that counts for two and another's vote doesn't count.


Vin Diesel;3236477']Hence why I said that they were the most obvious. They've been talked about the most and have said quite a lot themselves. It's a bit difficult to talk about say, Uma, when she hasn't posted yet, or someone who has made only a few posts.


Vin Diesel;3236480']The only reason I was late was because I was forgotten :cry:


Vin Diesel;3236489']
Dwayne Johnson;3236487']
Vin Diesel;3236480']The only reason I was late was because I was forgotten :cry:

Hey! Badasses never cry! Even if they got forgotten!

Why are you yelling at me? :cry:

Vin Diesel;3236466']Well at least that's my confusion over the votes cleared up.

To answer your question Statham, the most obvious suspects at this point are Arnie, Clint and Seagal, for me. Arnie in particular is worrying me, because he's talking a lot but he doesn't really say anything, you know? It seems like he's trying to be active just for the sake of being active and coming across as helpful, whilst not really adding anything. Of course he could just be an eager townie, but regardless he's one I'm going to keep my eye on closely. Clint and Seagal just rub me the wrong way, but that's not enough for me to put a vote on either of them at this point.

Just want to say quickly that I'm posting from a tablet, so I apologise if it takes me a while to respond and for any weird autocorrects that may pop up from time to time in my posts.

Vin Diesel;3237131']Sorry for not being here all day, I need some time to read through the thread, but just a quick skim through reveals a lot has happened today.
Really only one post of substance in which he responds to me asking him to actually participate. And, even in that post, he makes some general accusations without ever committing himself, and amusingly accuses Arnold of trying to look active without adding anything when he's been doing almost exactly that. No votes either.

His last post was about him going back to read the thread but looks like he never even did that.

Also, this reminds me of something else so I'll be right back.

[[M] Apollo]

Teddy Roosevelt;3236419']Due to a HUGE mistake on my part, I forgot to send a PM to one of the players, so say hi to Vin Diesel! xDDD

Jason Statham;3236420']Hm, did Vin Diesel's mafia teammates wonder where he was or something?
This was said mostly in jest, but what if it was true?

[[M] Apollo]

Ok, well I had hoped to see more activity near the end here but I guess everyone's away. Or the mafia is laying low now that my goose is pretty much cooked. That's why I don't like just blindly following a cop claim and stacking the votes early. It proves for a very boring rest of the day.

Unfortunately, I have to go now too so this will be my final plea. If I was really mafia I would not have acted the way I did. Making wild accusations and vote switches is just not the way to win this game as mafia. Case in point: it resulted in me getting almost lynched yesterday and "investigated" today. The best way to win as mafia is have a minimum level of activity and not put yourself "out there", because out of sight equals out of mind. The Neeson, Stallone, Smith, Diesel types. This model has been proven and since I take this game quite seriously, it would be the way I would do it too.

If I was mafia I would not have come up with this ludicrous role. I'm clever, but not this clever. This isn't even clever. It's Laddy playing some kind of sick joke on me. Why would I pick something so unbelievable when there's plenty of other roles I could have pretended to me, Vanilla Town or Miller being the easiest to pull off?

I'm switching my vote one last time, this time to Vin Diesel. It's a hunch, but I think he's the laying low mafia member that is always so dangerous. Losing him is no blow to the discussion here either. Lynching me would be getting rid of one of the most active players with one of the more unique and fun roles we've ever had. And it doesn't get us any closer to victory.

##Unvote: Johnson
##Vote: Vin Diesel

[[M] Elize]

I wouldn't worry too much, Jason. Clearly my "tough love" approach to trying to improve your manners hasn't been working so I'm thinking about going a different route. I might give you some "unconditional love"! I haven't quite made my mind up just yet but...as far as I'm concerned now, you're the highest candidate for today's Brucey Bonus!

I'm still not really convinced either way of your affiliation, but I don't know if you being lynched today is the best idea. I will drag a please or thank you out of you if it's the last thing I do.

[[M] Mom – Host]

[QUOTE='[M] Teddy Roosevelt;3237765']1 [M] Sigourney Weaver : [M] Jet Li, [M] Dwayne Johnson, [M] Will Smith, [M] Nicolas Cage, [M] Sigourney Weaver, [M] Jason Statham

6 [M] Jason Statham : [M] Sigourney Weaver, [M] Arnold Schwarzenegger, [M] Jet Li, [M] Nicolas Cage, [M] Uma Thurman, [M] Sylvester Stallone

0 [M] Dwayne Johnson : [M] Jason Statham

0 [M] Liam Neeson : [M] Jason Statham

1 [M] Vin Diesel : [M] Jason Statham


About 8 and a half hours left.

[[M] Kurt - Cool Dad]

Jesus Christ. Why did you all decide to get active as soon as I went to bed?

This is gonna be brief since I have work to get to.

Statham/Weaver stuff: what cop claims after one night? Especially if they don't know their sanity? And the notion that we sacrifice someone to prove it is a bad one. Jason's claim is outlandish and convenient, but I'm willing to give him a chance. Probably not much use at this point though.

Ugh. Running out of time. Better vote. I don't like how Uma ran with the cop claim without question. I am inclined to believe it, but I wouldn't jump in line behind it without asking about it first.

##vote uma

[[M] Joe - Army Dad]

Sorry motherfuckers, I was busy kicking asses and taking names. Jason Statham is dodgy friends, but I'm gonna turn my attention to something a little more meta. Two more players came in today. That bumps the total up to what, 17? That's big enough for a four-man mafia and definitely necessary, motherfucker. So we're looking at Vin Diesel, Jet Li and Harrison Ford by my books (Sly is innocent by virtue of his arrival time).

Harrison Ford hasn't shown up yet, so I think he's the likely guilty party.

##Vote: [M] Harrison Ford

I know you hate snakes too motherfucker, but looks like you might be one.

Time to catch up on the rest of the shit, yo.

[[M] Joe - Army Dad]

I'm sniffing out the bad guys

http://i2.cdnds.net/13/11/618x714/odd_samuel_l_jackson_dog.jpg

[[M] Walter - Smart Dad]

##Vote: Sigourney Weaver

I don't believe the cop roleclaim. I think she panicked at the heat on her, played the "vote for myself" card, and then claimed cop to make us suspect she is innocent or, at the very least, not worth killing just yet. What did you say, Miss Alien Slayer? That trying to live is an anti-town sign? Roleclaiming is a definite sign of trying to survive, and you just begged us to vote for that way.

[[M] Helo]

I apologise for my inactivity during this game, it's been a hectic week for me, and I probably shouldn't have signed up to play, but I did anyway, so again I apologise.

My thoughts, very briefly, are as such. It seems pretty clear to me that at least one of the late arrivals is definitely mafia. I am of course included in that, but I know I'm not mafia, so that negates me in my eyes. However, instead of lynching us today, it would make sense for our investigative townies to work their magic on us newbies over the night and find put which of us is the newest member of the mafia.
I'm not convinced Weaver is a sane cop, she could potentially be paranoid or insane, so I'm wary of voting for Statham, especially because I think his role claim sounds plausible.
Jackson seems pretty clearly town aligned, so I don't suspect him.
What I don't like currently is Neeson's vote on Uma, for believing the Cop claim too quickly. It seems to me he doesn't want to be on the chopping block by voting for Statham and then him flipping town. Although I suppose I can be blamed for doing the same, because I'm going to vote for Neeson.
##Vote: Liam Neeson

[[M] Joe - Army Dad]

So I caught up on the business of the day. Here is what I have to note:

The Psychopath is dead. Good work team. I am glad that we didn't have to argue about the presence of a third-party killer after one-to-no deaths last night, so good lynching.

On that note - I am not sure why there were no deaths last night. I'm not the Psychiatrist so I'm not a functional Doctor, so I presume that we were saved by magic. Which, coincidentally, is something I am very good at. Remember that video I linked to you? I told you it would explain my role. I'm a wizard, dawgs.

http://blu.stb.s-msn.com/i/24/6CD9746418A59640A3D827DC6A615F_h231_w308_m5_ctXcUedbB.jpg

Sigourney Weaver's cop role claim is, I guess convenient, although I'm not going to challenge it (I'm not the cop). Jason Statham's roleclaim is believable in a Laddy kind of way, but at the same time, it is super convenient that he got gunsmith and can "confirm" Weaver for us. Oy vey.

Also apologies for the absence, I got a bit of a crack in my head and was waylaid. Also I didn't get to magic anything up last night either. Tough break, motherfuckers.

http://www.freakingnews.com/pictures/55500/Samuel-L-Jackson-Egg-Head---55834.jpg

[[M] Joe - Army Dad]

Harrison Ford you mothersmurfer.

http://whendesireruns.files.wordpress.com/2011/03/samuel-l-jackson.jpg

[[M] Elize]

It's my man Sam Jackson! I hope you enjoyed your Brucey Bonus my good man. :aimkiss:

[[M] Joe - Army Dad]

Man that was a trip! When's the next one happening?

Also, I forget who asked but here is another super pic of me reppin' the sexy wig motherfuckers.

http://www.kulfoto.com/icache?f=0001/0026/04G1825349.jpg&r=75153

[[M] Joe - Army Dad]

Awww boo hotlinking protection. What motherfuckers.

[[M] Joe - Army Dad]

I am sad that Jason Statham roleclaimed after all. I wanted him to (and ps you all should do that as well, join us in the roleclaimer group) but now I am uncertain as to whether I want him to die or not. It looks rather certain at the moment, but a late bandwagon yesterday sent Seagull Seagal to the gallows. So who knows, really? I am going to use my Samuel L Jackson dog nose to investigate that bandwagon in between my cups of miso soup.

[[M] Joe - Army Dad]

Dwayne Johnson and Nicolas Cage are at the top of my list for "people to put into my magic box to saw people in half" because of their hate for the daykilling. You guys suck. Lighten up. I know Nic Cage has some issues to attend with

http://content7.flixster.com/question/63/92/19/6392197_std.jpg

but Dwayne really has no excuse. I mean, you're the one who campaigned with a slogan like this

http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn204/Berzonk/know_your_role.jpg

Don't be the fun police you dweebs. Okay, back to miso soup for a bit.

[[M] Colette]

Dwayne Johnson;3237735']
Arnold Schwarzenegger;3237732']I know I lashed out at Weaver, but it wasn't because I think she's scum, she was just being jerkish. You, however, Johnson, bandwagon mugged Weaver, which is really odd, and seems out of character for you, and I think is scummy. Just saying. One thing at a time though.
1. Seagal
2. Statham
3. Johnson

Sorry what? Bandwagoned? Hardly. I was one of the first people to pick up on several discrepancies with Weaver's account of things. I'd say Will Smith and Nicolas Cage bandwagoned more than anything. I gave a full and frank reason for me voting for Weaver: #513

That's not bandwagoning, that's using logic and analysing which many people on here keep saying I should be using more of. Meanwhile, Will Smith pops up for a moment, votes for Weaver saying naff all, and then disappears. Now that's bandwagoning.

Besides, I'm now convinced that Weaver probably isn't scum, and I unvoted.

Pretty sure I said that I didn't have a lot of time to do any long argumentative posts and even a small one stating what I really think (that I don't believe any of you ever) took time away from food. Food, guys. Guess what, I have time later today but the day will have ended by then so I'll have something ready for day 3 if I make it through the night. I'm sure everyone here can tell that I go to the beat of my own drum and am here to have fun.

As for my vote, I saw her as bandwagoning on role claiming which also happened in the last game and it fooled us all. I'm quite happy with either her or Statham going down to approve the claims and we all know from day 1 that I think Statham is trying to get killed.



Story Book Weaver;3237575']Stop helping the rookie.
##Vote: Weaver
I'll help anyone I think is town. Derp-fueled mislynches are bad for my wincon.

That's a bandwagon vote there. Not a whole lot of reason or rhyme for doing it.

[[M] Colette]

Samuel L Jackson;3237866']Man that was a trip! When's the next one happening?

Also, I forget who asked but here is another super pic of me reppin' the sexy wig mothersmurfers.

http://www.kulfoto.com/icache?f=0001/0026/04G1825349.jpg&r=75153
Probably me :aimkiss:

[[M] Joe - Army Dad]

Whoever can supply me with accurate vote counts of Days 0, 1 and the up-to-date vote count for Day 2 is guaranteed not to get a vote of Samuel L Jackson for the rest of the game. I am looking at you Dwayne Johnson, this is your chance to put those tallying skills to use! Jet Li is acceptable, as are the rest of you, but I cannot analyse the data if I do not have it! (And fuck chasing it myself; I always do that and it is inefficient!)

[[M] Joe - Army Dad]

People Samuel L Jackson suspects of being Mafia
Harrison Ford - Him or Jet Li. Vin Diesel is a possibility but a long shot in my eye. Just got the one eye. I'm in role as Nick Fury.

Jason Statham - I like your role claim. I do. I can see evidence of you planning it. But I don't trust you. Nothing personal, but I cannot trust a man who so calmly falls to his death. You know what I mean.

Dwayne Johnson - You post helpful things but not insightful or constructive things. You also hate jokes and fun and that makes me angry. I know the Hulk, don't make me sic him on you. Please post more before I murder you.

Daniel Craig - I am of the belief that a member of the mafia lies within the triumvirate of Will Smith, Liam Neeson and Daniel Craig. Daniel Craig has my pick at the moment because he has not agreed with my points enough. I like people who tell me I am smart and correct. Please feed my ego Daniel :)

People Samuel L Jackson does not like
Sigourney Weaver -

Sigourney Weaver;3237064']I'm not going to lynch someone because you think they might be the killer. You need to have more proof.
This statement coupled with a lot of other things leaves a sour taste in my mouth. There was a reason you were in this list and not the above but I forgot what it was. You have roleclaimed cop, which is both a positive and negative mark against you, but I will let it sit for now.

Nicolas Cage - You do not like my jokes or my image macros. You deserve the bees. I would also like to see some real contributions from you mister fly-in-fly-out.
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People Samuel L Jackson wishes to speak to about the Avengers Initiative
Uma Thurman - I have decided that the old adage of "I am not the bomb" does not apply. Wait, that's the wrong joke. Uma Thurman is playing fast and loose, which is a style not unseen before but a style I do not think would fly in a game with Samuel L Jackson watching out. If you are a member of the Mafia then I will discover it sooner or later, but I will count on you when the Earth is threatened.

Bruce Willis - I simply want to play your game more often. Maybe I can run my own variant now too? :)

Arnold Schwarzenegger - I am sorry for trying to kill you at the beginning. It was nothing personal :shobon: I am feeling more confident in your loyalty to the town (if not your wife :(!) as time goes on, but I am unsure as to whether that is mostly because of your status as a rookie, your apparent quietening, or my simple desire for penance. Or maybe it's just that other people look like bigger scumbags. Who knows?

Sylvester Stallone - Despite not inviting me to the Expendables (I would have brought the Avengers with me and we would have been invincible), I am sticking to my meta gaming and stating that Sly is innocent. If he is a bad guy then I will be sad and have a complete loss of reputation. Thankfully due to the nature of comic books, being disgraced is only a temporary hindrance that allows us to come back stronger than before, so win-win for me.


This will all change once I get those vote counts btw.

[[M] Joe - Army Dad]

I am bored, hungry, and out of miso soup. I am going to leave you absent motherfuckers for some good food and entertainment.

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-bMSMPdUtHgE/TgdJv97jkJI/AAAAAAAADho/6h69LkD1aPM/s640/samuel.jpg

[[M] Apollo]

I'm glad some stuff happened while I was away. I really don't like all of these random votes. Liam randomly shows up and votes Uma. Vin randomly shows up and votes Liam. Harrison Ford (wtf he was in this game?) makes his very first appearance and votes Weaver. Ford is at least addressing some of the issues of the day but the others are pretty much staying away from the confrontations and therefore discussions. Only Sam Jackson is actually addressing multiple issues.

Bruce, if it helps me any: Please. There you have it. I will say I don't think you're bad, though I do wish you would contribute a little bit more.

[[M] Elize]

Oh my. I knew you had it in you, Turkish you lovely lad you. And see the benefits it will reap you! You have now won, without a shadow of a doubt, the Brucey Bonus of the day! All just because of the word "please". Don't worry so much about "Thank You"...I think you'll find that will come naturally, sooner than you might think. :aimkiss: Especially since you've taken the first step!

As for contributing more, I don't really have much of anything else to add. I've already said what I wanted to say so far, mainly that Dwayne is suspicious and still hasn't addressed anything said about him by me, you or Liam. I also still don't believe Weaver's role claim and agree that people who have just thought "Oh, cop claim! Let's vote Jason like she said!" are jumping the gun. Who actually investigates anyone other than themselves on day one? And even if they do, who then claims it in the thread on day two without waiting to do a self-check first? Either a liar or a dumb cop. Neither of which are particularly helpful to us.

I don't necessarily think you're clean and dry either Jason, but I'm willing to give you the benefit of the doubt for today. Though now that you've claimed, I would like to see some kind of tangible results from whatever it is your given role happens to be today. Anything as vague and co-incidentally lucky as gunsmith and well, I don't know.

[[M] Apollo]

I don't know how to guarantee tangible results because I have no idea what role I will be assigned next. Even if I said something like "I will use any night power I get on ", it wouldn't make a difference since there's no guarantee of that person surviving the night.

As it stands it doesn't really matter since I'm up for lynch and the clock has wound down. So rather than focusing on saving myself I want to try and help the town with my time remaining.

After thinking about it for a while, I think Liam's random vote smells the worst. While you shouldn't blindly trust cop claims, claiming this early is a dangerous game for a mafia and I'm inclined to believe her. What I think is that she is an Insane or Paranoid Cop and just acting a bit rash with her first result. Plus she claimed before I revealed my Gunsmith result which is too consistent to be coincidence. So the vote on Uma for that reason makes no sense, and it is a pretty "safe" vote with a "safe" reason.

Vin Diesel and Rocky Johnson still don't sit well with me but Liam has moved up to the top spot in my eyes.

[B]##Unvote: Vin Diesel
##Vote: Liam Neeson

[[M] Elize]

Oh right, the day is going to wrap up soon. In keeping with the theme:

##vote Dwayne Johnson

The People's Chump has done precisely nothing to allay any suspicions I have had of him since yesterday, so I will stick with it.

Also, it's a fair point Turkish, but at the very least I'd like to know what you did now that you've claimed, if it's not something that is best kept secret (can't really think what that would be right now but there you go.) I don't see what you'd have to lose by being open with us from this point on.

Has anyone else said or done anything worth considering? I'll be honest, my memory isn't so good and I've not been paying much attention to anyone outside my sphere of interest because just generic mafia. :redface:

[[M] Dee]

Fast and loose you say Sam? Right now as far as I see it, I'm playing lazy. The town is making good moves and jumping on scummy members. They're testing the right claims. When this town goes astray I will help lead them back, but for now they are on target.

[[M] Dee]

After this lynch we'll learn a lot, tonight we'll likely learn even more. Getting the Psycho Day One was clutch. We'll make it through. Stand strong, together.

[[M] Dee]

So say we all.

[[M] Trevor - Gay Dad]

Will Smith;3237891']


Story Book Weaver;3237575']Stop helping the rookie.
##Vote: Weaver
I'll help anyone I think is town. Derp-fueled mislynches are bad for my wincon.

That's a bandwagon vote there. Not a whole lot of reason or rhyme for doing it.

That is not a bandwaton vote.

That is a vote for a reason -- furthermore a reason that is stated right along with the vote.

This is what is known as the opposite of a bandwagon vote.


Uma Thurman;3237952']So say we all.

OK I don't want to kill you anymore.

[[M] Apollo]

What's the vote count? Do I even have a chance?

[[M] Walter - Smart Dad]

Looking grim, slim.

[[M] D'Anna]

Samuel L Jackson;3237906']Whoever can supply me with accurate vote counts of Days 0, 1 and the up-to-date vote count for Day 2

Look in the thread for Day 0 and Day 1 you lazy bum. I think this is all correct. I do apologise for any errors:



Day 2
God knows how many for majority lynch. Teddy?


6 [M] Jason Statham : Sigourney Weaver, Arnold Schwarzenegger, Jet Li, Nicolas Cage, Uma Thurman, Sylvester Stallone​

2 [M] Sigourney Weaver : <s style="color: rgb(255, 255, 255); background-color: rgb(0, 41, 66);">Jet Li</s>, <s style="color: rgb(255, 255, 255); background-color: rgb(0, 41, 66);">Dwayne Johnson</s>, Will Smith, <s style="color: rgb(255, 255, 255); background-color: rgb(0, 41, 66);">Nicolas Cage</s>, <s style="color: rgb(255, 255, 255); background-color: rgb(0, 41, 66);">Sigourney Weaver</s>, <s style="color: rgb(255, 255, 255); background-color: rgb(0, 41, 66);">Jason Statham</s>, Harrison Ford

2 [M] Liam Neeson : Jason Statham, Vin Diesel

1 [M] Uma Thurman : Liam Neeson

1 [M] Harrison Ford : Samuel L. Jackson

1 [M] Dwayne Johnson : <s style="color: rgb(255, 255, 255); background-color: rgb(0, 41, 66);">Jason Statham</s>, Bruce Willis

0 [M] Vin Diesel : Jason Statham


Abstinations

Dwayne Johnson
Daniel Craig
Clint Eastwood

Has No Direct Votes

Daniel Craig
Samuel L. Jackson
Bruce Willis
Will Smith
Clint Eastwood
Nicolas Cage
Sylvester Stallone
Jet Li

[[M] Ron - Cop Dad]

Harrison Ford;3237846']##Vote: Sigourney Weaver

I don't believe the cop roleclaim. I think she panicked at the heat on her, played the "vote for myself" card, and then claimed cop to make us suspect she is innocent or, at the very least, not worth killing just yet. What did you say, Miss Alien Slayer? That trying to live is an anti-town sign? Roleclaiming is a definite sign of trying to survive, and you just begged us to vote for that way.

Oh you must be the other new player. As I said you can kill me if you want I'm not begging to survive which should be evident by now. As I said my death will not be entirely in vain except this early in the game it would most likely not help very much as I only have one investigation. A cop wanting to survive? Sure, that's logical this early in the game, but my logic is that I got things to do so I'm playing this as fast as possibly can. The fatest way for me to know the confirmation of my role is for someone I investigate to die.

I'm counting on that a doctor believes me so I am protected at night, but Mafia knows this and will try to get me lynched in the day because of this. They're haters. Why did I claim so early? You guys want the obvious and it seems that you completely fail to listen to anyone unless they do role claim. Quite unfortunate.


Should it be Statham that gets lynched? He was high on my suspicious list, so I'm inclined to think yes, but if he is telling the truth his role is a power one and could be potentially helpful if and only if he says his investigations before a person role claims. Otherwise it will be seen as being convenient, and we won't be able to spot if he's bulltroutting or not.

So therein lies a dilemma for me. Let Stat get away for now and go for someone else suspicious. Should I take this chance? The thing is let's say I do investigate and it comes up not guilty tonight, I will know I'm not paranoid but I'm inclined to think that with a smaller set up than usual (i don't know how many players we have now but I think it's smaller than the norm for these games) I am most likely sane or insane. Argh :kakapo:

[[M] Apollo]

Harrison Ford;3237965']Looking grim, slim.
Oh well. I got to use my bizarre role once and that's what I really wanted. Maybe with some better timing I could have squeaked by, but it's tough to stop the ball once it gets rolling.

[[M] Ron - Cop Dad]

My biggest problem is also if you do come up innocent, I am definitely dead tonight. The doctor or protective role won't believe me and then won't protect me. Then if you are telling the truth we've just lost two power roles. :lol:

[[M] Apollo]

Weaver: I think that, considering the setup was small when it first started (it has since grown), you are more likely insane than paranoid. Also with a paranoid cop there is usually a real cop and I haven't seen any hints of that.

Investigating yourself is usually the best way to figure out sanity once you are sure you're not paranoid/naive. Again, I think it's unlikely that you are paranoid.

There's still a few minutes left (I believe) to give me another chance to prove myself and go for another shady character such as Johnson or Neeson instead. I'd love the opportunity and I'm open to suggestions as to how I can "prove" I actually am the Aspiring Leading Man and not some goon.

[[M] Apollo]

Alternatively, you could also investigate Sam Jackson since he is likely town-aligned.

[[M] Dee]

Jason Statham;3237979']Alternatively, you could also investigate Sam Jackson since he is likely town-aligned.

Nothing is so until the moderator says so. Killing you gives us the most information. Jedi's never speak in absolutes.

[[M] Ron - Cop Dad]

I think it's too late to save you now Stat Stat. This last minute trout is crazy. Mod, how much time we got?

I'm not saying who I will investigate tonight as I don't want to help the Mafia figure out who to target and who to not, but your suggestions are helpful. I am however not going to waste my investigation on Sam, as I don't think he's suspicious. I don't have much time left so I need to use it on people I think are suspicious, but I will mull it over.

[[M] Mom – Host]

Looks like we have a tie. First vote on Weaver or Neeson ends the day.

[[M] Apollo]

Where did I say absolutes? I said likely, since if you read his day 1 posts it would be pretty apparent that he was telling the truth about the Psychopath.

Killing me only tells you that Weaver is likely Insane. Which is information that she could also get by tomorrow anyway. But killing me also makes us lose a potentially powerful townie.

[[M] Apollo]

What? What just happened?

[[M] Dee]

Teddy Roosevelt;3237985']Looks like we have a tie. First vote on Weaver or Neeson ends the day.

...What? The fuc-.

God dammit. So we have a choice on our hands, test the cop claim, or kill Neeson. I'm warning everyone, if this choice is made prematurely by a single town member, you will not survive the night.

[[M] Apollo]

What is that supposed to mean? Why would you play scare tactics like that?

[[M] Elize]

:aimkiss:

[[M] Ron - Cop Dad]

##unvote: statham
##Vote: neeson

[[M] Apollo]

The right choice was made. Now we get to do it all again tomorrow!

[[M] D'Anna]

Testing the cop claim is incredibly tempting, but then Neeson's not exactly doing himself favours.

Damn it! So hard to choose!

[[M] D'Anna]

Oh, guess it was chosen for me. Nevermind. :p

[[M] Ron - Cop Dad]

Way to go Brucey. You've now made the cop more suspicious. I can only hope that Neeson is actually bad.

[[M] Dee]

Sigourney Weaver;3237992']##unvote: statham
##Vote: neeson

:colbert:

[[M] Dee]

Not cool Siggy. I was just typing out something how we should do a mock vote to see where people stand and get the max out of this tie.

[[M] Mom – Host]

Day over. Flavor coming.

[[M] D'Anna]

What, I'm confused. How did it go to a tie. I know I may make the odd mistake with my vote tally, but there's no way I missed THAT many votes.

[[M] Greg - Hot Dad]

Things certainly got more interesting. So... according to Teddy's last statement, looks like Statham survives another day, and by Sig's recent vote changing, looks like neeson is probably gone.

Or Teddy is just smurfing with us all this time and Statham is going to get the lynch either way. I hate this game, sometimes.

[[M] D'Anna]

Can we have a official vote tally to go alongside that flavor as well Teddy?

[[M] Elize]

Dear Turkish, are you currently having a certain phrase swirling around in your mind? Two little words perhaps?

[[M] Elize]

Also no Signourney, I did nothing of the sort. Don't blame your general scumminess and instant self preserving vote on me. That's all your own doing, baby. :aimkiss:

[[M] Ron - Cop Dad]

I don't trust scum and I know I'm the cop. I didn't like making a rash decision again, but I was left with no choice, kill a power role or kill someone potentially suspicious, Neeson.

Scum would've offed me first. I told you they want me to be lynched. ;)

[[M] Ron - Cop Dad]

Brucey, Brucey, Brucey you could have atleast went for someone more suspicious than Neeson, like Vin perhaps. Your decision just fucked things over. You're not right about me, but let's hope you're right about Neeson.

[[M] Mom – Host]

The town has grilling Statham, pushing him closer and closer to the edge. "Wait...wait...I can explain..." Statham said urgently (but badassly). The crowd's cries only got louder. Then suddenly, Sigourney Weaver, sensing an opening, threw a wolf at Liam Neeson. H

Alas, Liam Neeson, immune to bullets. But not wolves. Liam Neeson was a Bulletproof Townie played by Shauna. Thanks for playing!

Night 2 begins now and will last 12 hours. Send me all night actions by then!

[[M] D'Anna]

Can someone stop dropping hints over what happened and just tell us what went down.

Brucey, what did you do?

[[M] Elize]

What are you on about? xD Neeson's name has only ever come out of my mouth when I've been talking about him calling out Dwayne. I've had literally nothing else to do with him. Stop trying to deflect your own sloppy play onto me.

[[M] Mom – Host]

All night actions in early so the day starts an hour before I intended. Yay~

Jet Li was walking down the street, practicing his many kicks. He was doing wall flips and somersaults all over the bloody place. However, he managed to dive right into an open sewer grate, drowning in the filth.

Jet Li was a Vanilla Townie played by qwertysaur (again!). Thanks for playing.

Day 3 begins now and will last for 24 hours.

[[M] Eizen]

And I was really starting to like Jet Li too....
Dammit.

So, down 2 townies in 2 days... and one was bulletproof? What a way to start to day 3.

[[M] Eizen]

I meant in 1 day. Oops.

[[M] Joe - Army Dad]

http://images.fandango.com/MDCsite/images/featured/201212/Sam-Jackson-Django-unchained-scowl.jpg

I expect Jason Statham to give us the low down on what role he got last night and what he did with it first. Only then do I want Sigourney Weaver to tell us who she investigated and what her result is. You get it, mothersmurfers? That's the order.

Jet Li's flip as an innocent makes me suspect Harrison Ford more. A lot more.

However, my previous line of thinking - that Sylvester Stallone was innocent and we were looking at only Vin Diesel, Jet Li and Harrison Ford as potential scum ring ins was mistaken. I had forgotten that Vin Diesel was the first "addition." I have disappointed you all :(

I'm throwing out that old theory and trying again. Vin Diesel, Harrison Ford and Sylvester Stallone include a member of the mafia. It has to. Taking pot shots at them is pointless though, so we should definitely focus on the bigger names and bigger faces to determine where the scum lies.

The lynch yesterday was confusing. Dwayne Johnson's vote tally was correct, and Liam Neeson died with only 3 votes compared to Jason Statham's 5. Something is afoot. I sense a disturbance in the Force.

http://www.hecklerspray.com/wp-content/uploads/2006/07/samuel%20l%20jackson.jpg

I have some theories about what transpired, but I have nothing concrete and so I would like to point out the more important things. Firstly, consider this: Jason Statham has dodged the lynch twice now by the narrowest of margins. Are there machinations ensuring his survival, or is he just an unfortunate townsperson getting really fucking lucky?

Secondly, consider this: There was no night kill Night One. One possible explanation is that Liam Neeson was the target. I know I certainly didn't protect anyone (I'm not a Doctor) and the actual Doctor, if there is one, might not have protected the target. Look, I said it was one explanation, let's stick with that. If Liam Neeson was targeted and the hit failed, then the mafia might have opted to just try and lynch Liam Neeson and remove the unkillable one.

Jason Statham, Uma Thurman and Vin Diesel all voted for Liam and are now elevated on my list of potential bad guys.

http://okayface.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/Samuel-L-Jackson-Angry.jpg

Also regarding Dwayne Johnson (who coincidentally is good at shaking heat also): you did not provide me accurate vote counts (you only provided one and the ones that I located myself did have some discrepancies) and as such you are not awarded Samuel L Jackson Immunity.

Mad?

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[[M] Elize]

Ah Samuel, always a pleasure when you drop by! I would like to hear your thoughts on Sigourney's hilariously self preserving actions and also her insistence on trying to deflect all of the stupid things she does by blatantly lying about little old me. I, for one, won't stand for it any longer. :colbert:

[[M] Elize]

Oh and let's not forget, she claimed cop and the mafia didn't even try and hit her. Sure, there may be a doctor in play. But this early into the game, what's there to lose in trying to knock off a claimed cop? Why wouldn't you want to try? Well...:aimkiss:

[[M] Joe - Army Dad]

Bruce Willis;3238247']Ah Samuel, always a pleasure when you drop by! I would like to hear your thoughts on Sigourney's hilariously self preserving actions and also her insistence on trying to deflect all of the stupid things she does by blatantly lying about little old me. I, for one, won't stand for it any longer. :colbert:

Sigourney Weaver's insistence that you are inactive as well as her blaming of you for Liam Neeson's death are interesting notes against her name. She seems to have something of a vendetta against you and I cannot fathom why. I have not yet reached a conclusion, as there are some threads that I must still untangle, but you have my support now if only for the delightful Brucey Bonus I received following Day One.

[[M] Joe - Army Dad]

Bruce Willis;3238249']Oh and let's not forget, she claimed cop and the mafia didn't even try and hit her. Sure, there may be a doctor in play. But this early into the game, what's there to lose in trying to knock off a claimed cop? Why wouldn't you want to try? Well...:aimkiss:

There are plenty of reasons not to shoot at a claimed cop, but...

http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m4cjs1XsuV1qdxmcwo2_250.gif

It does strike me as odd also. Don't worry, it is a necessary note of inquiry that I will follow up.

[[M] Joe - Army Dad]

Danny Craig, where'd you run off to? Come out and play, don't be shy.

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[[M] Eizen]

I had a busy day yesterday. I think I set foot in my home once yesterday and that was quickly followed up by me passing out on my bed.
Don't worry though, I have all night to play.
Let me finish my dinner, and I will start analyzing yesterdays events.

[[M] Joe - Army Dad]

Alright Danny boy, I'll let you eat your grub while I take care of some business. When I get back, you better have some thoughts for us. All the rest of you motherfuckers better pitch in too. Don't make me ask twice.

[[M] Apollo]

I guess I'm alive still, which is kind of a shocker. So first of all I have to say: thank you. You know who you are. See, I can be polite.

Second of all I wish I had some information on my role to share with you, but unfortunately I got nothin. Let me explain. On Night 1 I got a pm saying that I impressed the casting director and was given the part of Gunsmith. I got no such pm on Night 2. I know for a fact I did my required vote switches because I went back and checked. I then asked Teddy what my new role was for and he said I wouldn't be getting one tonight. And there you have it.

The only thing I can think of is that I was somehow roleblocked. Perhaps in some attempt to get me to prove my role, though role blockers are often scumbags.

I'll answer any questions you guys have but in the meantime I'd rather play mafia than speculate on these possibilities. First, I'd like to see the result of our "Cop"'s investigation, which I'm sure she'll share with us at some point. Based on how the end of that day went down, I believe her claim less and less. It never really occurred to me, but her claim actually came when she was in the vote lead, which means she may have just been trying to save her ass.

My vote for now is going on Dwayne Johnson. I just don't trust Mr. Vote Tally who only posts to respond to others, never offering up independent opinions of his own. I had him pegged earlier in the day yesterday, but the situation got out of hand near the end there. It's now a new day and my head is clear and Johnson is my number 1 target.

##Vote: Dwayne Johnson

[[M] Apollo]

For the record I think Jackson and Willis are town, Johnson and Diesel are scum, Weaver is an Insane Cop or a bullshitter.

Daniel Craig is someone who scares me because he skates the line pretty well between active and inactive. In fact, I believe he was the one who posted that comment about the semi-active players often being scum. So why is he doing exactly that? Nic Cage is another one like that.

Stallone and Ford have hardly been active so it's tough to get a read on them, but either one of them could be scum.

That's all I have for now.

[[M] Elize]

I am so proud of you, Jason! And now I'm fairly convinced you're telling the truth. If you do somehow end up being scum then hats off to you because you will have fooled me utterly. I have been waiting for you to come on and see what you said before making my decision. Now that you have,

##vote Sigourney Weaver

You're full of trout and I want you to hang. :)

[[M] Eizen]

I'll start with weaever: Not only did she recently throw a wolf at neeson... her early as hell cop claim bugs the crap out of me.
I sortof believe the claim just because of how risky and stupid it is to claim that role so early... but there is always the chance that is precisely why she did it.
I don't get why she claimed before even trying to figure out her sanity first.
Also, her random vote flip to neeson at the end of the day should NOT be ignored. There was no reason put with it and for such a risky move/tie-breaker that is exactly what you DONT want to do.
Siggys getting more and more fishy to me as time goes on... I don't like it.

She does bring up a good point against Jason though.


Sigourney Weaver;3237777']I really don't buy it though Stat Stat especially since you waited until after I role claimed to say you investigated me. If I had role claimed Gay Fairy Ballerina Whore you would've said afterward that I had a filthy tutu. It's hard to believe you after the fact.
He posted him having a gun far after she claimed cop. He said that's just how it worked out but I don't think I believe that. The problem is there's just no way to know that you're telling the truth and not just taking advtange of us.

I just don't 100% buy Jasons roleclaim. Everything just seems so convenient with it. What with the gunsmith and everything.
It bothers the hell out of me, but it does make sense considering a lot of things. My only gripe with Jason is how convenient everything is with him... but he could just be lucky/unlucky as hell. :roll2
Besides, my primary suspicion has switched to Weaver for now.

I'm going to hold off on my vote though as there are some things I want to hear first...
Particurally Weavers investigation for today.
I couldn't be more curious.

Also, Samuel L Jackson: You are super smart and handsome and I love you.

[[M] Joe - Army Dad]

No new role, you say? Hmmm. Fortunately there are other ways for me to determine if you are full of shit or just a poor soul caught in the crossfire, Jason Statham. There is no point in pushing you any harder, especially not when my best pal Bruce Willis has elected to stand in your corner. All we can do is wait for Sigourney Weaver to make an appearance.

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##Vote: [M] Vin Diesel

[[M] Joe - Army Dad]

Daniel Craig;3238268']
Also, Samuel L Jackson: You are super smart and handsome and I love you.

The first time I saw you breach the water was one of the happiest days of my life.

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_b41pVXZiL0E/RlHHeRlUJ2I/AAAAAAAAANA/7e0d9s_UkW0/s320/bond%2Bcoming%2Bout%2Bthe%2Bwater.bmp

Mmm baby, you got it goin' on Mister Craig

[[M] Eizen]

Oh, I know. They say I shouldn't get full of myself but there's a difference between that and just knowing how awesome you truly are.

[[M] Apollo]

Daniel Craig;3238268']
He posted him having a gun far after she claimed cop. He said that's just how it worked out but I don't think I believe that. The problem is there's just no way to know that you're telling the truth and not just taking advtange of us.
I realize the timing of it was bad, but I didn't even notice the cop claim as I was typing my post. I realize it makes my claim convenient and if I had gotten to this game sooner things would have gone down a lot differently. There's nothing I can do about that now. And my Night 2 situation certainly doesn't make me any more believable but I can only describe it as I see it.

I hesitate to start throwing votes at Weaver just yet because she could still be Insane Cop or Paranoid Cop, but she certainly has a lot to answer for and when she shows up her day of reckoning will come. Instead I think we should focus on some of the players who have avoided the spotlight.

##Unvote: Johnson
##Vote: Vin Diesel

Vin Diesel is one of those players flying under the radar. Maybe with two votes he will begin to rethink his strategy.

[[M] Eizen]

Oh I understand. Hence why I said you could just be incredibly unlucky.
The mafia gods seem to be toying with you.

[[M] Walter - Smart Dad]

##Vote: Sigourney Weaver


Sigourney Weaver;3236533']
The only people that would be panicking Day Zero are scum because they have fewer people. Town has nothing to worry about this early on. Anyone who wants to save their ass this day is automatically on my gettingyourasskickedlist. And looky there, you defending yourself. Why do you want to live so bad? What could you possibly contribute aside from a slew of horrible movies like Twins?

Sigourney Weaver;3236983']
What did I say about people who defend themselves? How about you go back and read that post. You're right in not wanting to die, but wrong in that you're playing for yourself as only an anti-Town role would do. Stop being defensive and start being helpful or I have no other choice but to take drastic measures as you are now very high on my gettingyourasskicked list.

She spent all that time accusing people who were "defending themselves" as being scum. Town members, in her mind, should lay down and die. But this is not the same logic she applied to herself.


Sigourney Weaver;3237973'] A cop wanting to survive? Sure, that's logical this early in the game, but my logic is that I got things to do so I'm playing this as fast as possibly can.
It's logical for a cop to want to survive, but you hounded anyone who wanted to survive previously. What if they were a power role? Did you want to force them to roleclaim so that you would turn down the heat too? Your logic stinks and your backflipping is so incredible I think you ought to join Circ de Soleil.


Sigourney Weaver;3237094']You know you're safe, come on now. You would not role claim this early if you thought otherwise.
This might explain why the reason for the role claim. Perhaps Sigourney thought she was in danger. A cop would want to survive, yes. But so would a mafia member, as per her own words. Ignoring the fact that most people want to survive, of course, which is still the stupidest logic I've come across. It's so backwards that it makes most of what you say have to be taken with a grain of salt.


Sigourney Weaver;3237219']Oh goddamnit I was just about to change my vote to Statham after reading over his claim again. Oh well, bye I guess.
This is a great tactic to play. "Oh I was going to vote x." We don't know what Statham is - he could be mafia still - but we know that Seagal was not-mafia and so Sigourney could simply feign remorse and look better.


Sigourney Weaver;3238009']Brucey, Brucey, Brucey you could have atleast went for someone more suspicious than Neeson, like Vin perhaps. Your decision just smurfed things over. You're not right about me, but let's hope you're right about Neeson.
I don't know what part Sigourney Weaver thinks Bruce Willis played in Liam Neeson's death, but her constant attacks against him have worn thin. She clearly has nothing to go on so I don't understand why she keeps trying.


Sigourney Weaver;3238008']I don't trust scum and I know I'm the cop. I didn't like making a rash decision again, but I was left with no choice, kill a power role or kill someone potentially suspicious, Neeson.
Despite claiming Statham was suspicious and disbelieving his roleclaim, Weaver still chose to vote for Liam Neeson. He was, as the quote says, someone who might have been suspicious, maybe. She didn't even say there was any dirt on him. That reeks.


Sigourney Weaver;3237973']
I'm counting on that a doctor believes me so I am protected at night, but Mafia knows this and will try to get me lynched in the day because of this. They're haters. Why did I claim so early? You guys want the obvious and it seems that you completely fail to listen to anyone unless they do role claim. Quite unfortunate.
The easiest way for the mafia to lynch you is to kill Jason Statham and have him flip town-aligned. He might be scum, which would explain why Jet Li was targeted, but your argument is simply a smokescreen to blanket accuse anyone who tries to lynch you as being a member of the mafia. Scare tactics from a scared scum?


Sigourney Weaver;3237973']
Should it be Statham that gets lynched? He was high on my suspicious list, so I'm inclined to think yes, but if he is telling the truth his role is a power one and could be potentially helpful if and only if he says his investigations before a person role claims. Otherwise it will be seen as being convenient, and we won't be able to spot if he's bulltroutting or not.

The thing is let's say I do investigate and it comes up not guilty tonight, I will know I'm not paranoid
You want to confirm your role but you want to do it at the expense of other people. If Statham flipped town, you would just go "oh I'm clearly insane" and try to guide us to another easy lynch. With Jason lynched, the second townie lynched, and two night phases of deaths, the mafia would be looking real pretty. We can't trust you regardless.

[[M] Joe - Army Dad]

For a man of few words Harrison, you sure can be a long winded motherfucker.

[[M] Eizen]

And I love that about him.
I had some of those thoughts about weaver as I was re-reading her posts earlier, but I could not find a way to really put it into words.
For being better at articulating crap than me you earn my seal of approval.

[[M] Trevor - Gay Dad]

Bruce Willis;3238267']I am so proud of you, Jason! And now I'm fairly convinced you're telling the truth. If you do somehow end up being scum then hats off to you because you will have fooled me utterly. I have been waiting for you to come on and see what you said before making my decision. Now that you have,

##vote Sigourney Weaver

You're full of trout and I want you to hang. :)

Not even going to wait for her report results?

Why?

[[M] Apollo]

Yeah, that was an interesting read. It was a bit targeted but thorough nonetheless.

Another thing I just remembered about Weaver, didn't she vote for herself at some point? That reeks of the typical "sacrifice self-vote" that goons often try to end it quickly when they have no hope. I mean, why would a Cop ever do that?

[[M] Joe - Army Dad]

Mothersmurfers I am good at what I do and what I do is, well, finding things out (this is a roleclaim). Logic and deduction are really useful skills to have and nigga I got those in spades. I'm basically the world's three greatest detectives, all at once.

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Now what I don't understand is why Jason Statham would not just get all his vote switching out of the way straight up. If that were me, mothersmurfer, I'd get that trout sorted asap and then let my votes actually have some weight with where I put 'em.

Sigourney Weaver was gunning for you Statham and your greatest supporter, the immaculate Mister Willis, is prepared to see her hang for trying to stick some guilt on you. You might believe the role claim of cop, sure, which explains why you wouldn't vote for her. But that doesn't explain why you're following me and putting pressure on Vin Diesel. The man will come out and talk, I'll make sure of that. There are plenty of other under the radar types that you need to watch out for.

You smell like fish, Jason. Fish and meatballs.

[[M] Joe - Army Dad]

I ain't gonna vote for you though, out of respect for Bruce Willis. I don't want him to zap my ass, ya feel me?