EoFF's Top Games of the Generation: Revelations

[Madame Adequate]

I didn't say it looks better, I said it still looks good.

Also Mirror's Edge came out in 2008, so comparing it to today's triple-A games isn't exactly reasonable.

[Hollycat]

I didn't say it looks better, I said it still looks good.
When compared to games that came out when it did? Yes. When compared to anything recent though, it looks awful.

[Madame Adequate]

Game released five years ago in "Looks like five year old game" shocker!

[Hollycat]

Game released five years ago in "Looks like TEN year old game" shocker!

I fixed your post.

Edit: I want everyone to go put their mirror's edge disk in and find a point where Faith puts her hand into a visible place. Then I want you to look at the textures on everything.

[Slothy]

I can't take anyone seriously who says Half-Life 2, or any Source engine game really, looks awful. It may not run as many fancy shaders as some modern engines, but the engine and games have been constantly updated, still have the best facial animation in any game in history, and better drawn textures compared to even most games that get released now. And believe it or not, not smurfing up with troutty textures makes a bigger difference in aesthetic than having more recent technology. Plus the games will run on pretty much every piece of hardware being sold right now.

And Mirror's Edge by the same token, thanks in part to having an art style that doesn't rely on fancy graphical tricks to look good, still looks great, even when compared to more modern games.

Fact is, a lot of modern games may impress on a technical level more than these, but their art styles and the general quality of their work leave a lot more to be desired.

[Ayen]

It's starting to look like the modern age bit wars up in here.

[Slothy]

There's absolutely no way you can argue that Mirror's Edge is a bad looking game on a technical level unless you're prepared to argue that more recent games like every Mass Effect and Gears of War title look like crap too. They all use the exact same engine.

Along with all of the Arkham games, Dishonored, and pretty much every other game released this generation.

And put in a disc? I play this on PC son. The way it's meant to be done.

[Hollycat]

There's absolutely no way you can argue that Mirror's Edge is a bad looking game on a technical level unless you're prepared to argue that more recent games like every Mass Effect and Gears of War title look like crap too. They all use the exact same engine.

Along with all of the Arkham games, Dishonored, and pretty much every other game released this generation.

And put in a disc? I play this on PC son. The way it's meant to be done.

Was just assuming on the disk, I have it digital as well.


And no that arguement doesn't need to be made. ME2, the arkham games etc. still look great. Be they in the same engine or no, they look fantastic when compared to Mirrors edge. Even the original mass effect looks better, especially when you take into account that ME is a much larger game with more varied environments.
Games made in the same engine don't look the same. All I know is, I've got Freelance and Mirrors edge pulled up side by side on my monitors, and Freelancer looks almost as good, and it is a much larger game that came out way back in 2003.

Final word: It looks like we are all going to just have to agree to disagree.
As for me, I like Mirrors edge, but it isn't even in my top 50.

[Del Murder]

Mirror's Edge is a first person game? I usually hate first person view. A game has to be pretty good for me to play it in first person view. Like Portal!

[Shauna]

Assassin's Creed 2
2009 – PC, PS3, Xbox 360
7 Nominations
http://i.imgur.com/bqkeOl2.jpg


In order to understand why AC2 is good, we need to know some things about the original. Simply put, Assassin's Creed was terrible. It had some cool ideas, but the execution left a lot to be desired. The setting was a bit bland, interactivity was low, methods of using stealth weren't all that varied, combat was a bit clumsy, and missions were repetitive. The best part about Assassin’s Creed was charging through crowds of peasants on your horse, but that just isn’t enough to keep anyone’s interest. I played through about half of it when I first bought it, but couldn't find the desire to finish it.

So when I heard AC2 was supposedly amazing, I was a bit hesitant to buy it, waiting until it was about $20 a year after its release. But before playing it I decided to finish the first one. It was possibly the most boring grind I've put up with in a game in a long time, and it left me questioning whether I even wanted to play AC2. But since I'd already bought it I didn't see why I shouldn't give it a chance.

And I'm glad I did because AC2 is a testament to what happens when you take a set of good ideas and spend two years refining them. Of course, throwing 400 people at the problem doesn't hurt either.

The boring little missions you had to do to gain information on the targets in the first game are gone, and the assassination and other missions became a lot more varied. The free running felt well refined. Combat, while somewhat simpler, was less of a pain to deal with and had a wider variety of weapons to play with. Add to it that Renaissance Italy was a far more interesting and better realized setting, and Ezio was a much more likeable character than Altair. AC2 is a game that was improved in every measurable way over its predecessor, and it took a game that was mediocre at best and made it amazing. That simply does not happen very often in gaming. And that is why AC2 deserves to be on this list.

Amnesia: The Dark Descent (3)
Persona 3 Portable (2)
Ni No Kuni (2)
Scribblenauts (1)
Kameo: Elements of Power (1)
Castle Crashers (1)
Dragon Quest Heroes: Rocket Slime (1)
Call of Duty: World at War (1)
Etrian Odyssey (1)
HAWX (1)

Also RE: HD remakes and such, I didn't make a big deal that they could be nominated because I wanted to see games that were produced for this generation be high on the list, instead of games from 15 years ago. Perhaps I misled you all, but that's fine with me. x3

[Ayen]

Personally, I find graphics to be irrelevant to whether a game is good or not. There are games now that are horribly dated by today's standards that are still playable because the gameplay is good and/or it had a great story to it. Some times it doesn't even need a story, just good gameplay.


Mirror's Edge is a first person game? I usually hate first person view. A game has to be pretty good for me to play it in first person view. Like Portal!

I'm the same. I generally hate anything that's first person view but made exceptions for games like Doom, Metroid Prime and F.E.A.R. I suppose Fallout 3 and Skyrim count even though you can switch to third-person view on those.

And Assassin's Creed II! Cool. I'll be playing that in two weeks.

[Spuuky]

Is Rocket Slime really "this generation"? Doesn't feel like it, but I can't be bothered to go look. It's a pretty great little game, though.

Etrian Odyssey is not the best Etrian Odyssey, so I don't feel too sad about it only getting 1 vote (which wasn't mine, anyway).

[Shauna]

It was on the DS which I counted as "last generation", same as the PSP.

[Dr Unne]

The only reason I could suggest not playing Mirror's Edge is if you get motion sickness from first person games, like some people I know do. That game is a vertigo simulator. Even I had to put it down a few times.

I'm lucky to grow up with Atari/NES games. Any game with SNES-level graphics or better still blows my mind. Mirror's Edge looked amazing to me. Even if you ignore the level of detail, they did some great things with level design and color. The style of the cutscenes was also quite good.

[Loony BoB]

I've actually got AC & ACII on my Christmas Wish List to Danielle. £3.99 each at GAME at the moment, pre-owned. Bargain, I hope!

[Shauna]

AssCreed is a bit of a disappointing game, but the second one improves upon pretty much everything.

[Hollycat]

AssCreed is a bit of a disappointing game, but the second one improves upon pretty much everything.
It really does. I can't decide whether I like 2 or 4 better, and considering I'm still basking in the glow of 4, that probably means 2 is the better one.

[Loony BoB]

I just like playing things in order. Hopefully I don't have the same problem I had with Suikoden where I could never get around to finishing the (supposedly not as great) first game and therefore never start the (supposedly much better) second one... I own them both. xD

[Del Murder]

AC2 was great. A no brainer to be on this list. Some of the later entries polished up the gameplay and expanded it to some interesting levels, but nothing beats AC2's story, setting, and main character. I could run around through Florence stabbing people all day. In fact, I visited Florence for real last year and it was quite awesome to see all the areas Ezio explored in real life. Not much has changed!

[Shauna]

I know how that goes. The actual assassination missions of AssCreed were fine, but getting to them was a complete bore. For a bit of context before the assassinations you have to gather pieces of information about your target - which you gather in one of three(?) ways. They're not very exciting or entertaining, and you have to do it for every assassination. It gets old fast.

There's enough good in it to get you through the game, I found, but it does cut it really fine.

Play it if you must to get to AC2.

[Shauna]

Demons Souls
2009 – PS3
7 Nominations
http://i.imgur.com/fAxRaDm.jpg


The first few years of the PS3's lifespan were rough. Despite exclusives like the first Uncharted game, A Crack in Time, or Metal Gear Solid 4, it was still struggling to gain a foothold against the constantly growing library and userbase of the Xbox 360. While things eventually ended up more or less even between the two systems in the end in terms of worldwide sales, the PS3 needed as many exclusives as it could get early on if it hoped to compete. One such exclusive that it could forever hold over the competition was Demon's Souls, FROM SOFTWARE's spiritual successor to its long-running King's Field series.

This hardcore and brutally unforgiving action RPG stood in stark contrast to many of the trends that occurred throughout the generation, namely the streamlining of games and reducing their difficulty in order to broaden their audience. Demon's Souls is incredibly unapologetic in its design; it is an action RPG for those who enjoy challenging action RPGs, and, if you don't take the time to get over its learning curve and learn its rules, it makes no effort to accommodate you. It is these aspects that most stood out about the game upon its initial release, though challenge alone is not what makes Demon's Souls a good game. The online multiplayer aspects were revolutionary in many aspects, with players able to summon or be invaded by phantoms "coming into their world" to help or harm them. While many critics of this generation praised games like Journey for their innovation by including seamless multiplayer without lobbies, it was Demon's Souls that first offered this type of multiplayer, and it is part of what makes Demon's Souls so memorable.

Multiplayer aside, the game is incredibly tightly designed. The game features five worlds, each broken up into smaller segments that are focused on specific challenges, such as climbing a giant tower with demonic gargoyles perched upon its ledges, or the infamous poison swamp. Just like an old school NES game, enemy placement is deliberate and methodical, and each enemy is meticulously placed to add to that level's specific challenge. Levels are filled with secrets and shortcuts, harkening back to the depth the best older games had to offer.

In the interest of avoiding too much wordiness, it would be easy to sum Demon's Souls up as this; it is an unapologetically challenging game that isn't afraid to punish players who don't take the time to learn it; it has a beautiful, dreary, and haunting atmosphere; the flexibility in its levelling system and weapon types enable a high amount of replayability and variety of ways to tackle the game; its level-based structure provides for very focused and tightly designed challenges; and its multiplayer offered something truly unique and as yet unseen in the era. With all these things in mind, it is easy to see why Demon's Souls made it on the Top Games of the Generation list.

Dead Space (3)
Lost Odyssey (2)
Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare (2)
Civilization V (1)
Atelier Rorona: The Alchemist of Arland (1)
Bit Trip Runner (1)
Hearts of Iron II (1)
Monaco (1)
Vanquish (1)
Call of Duty: Black Ops 2 (1)


S'all for tonight! I look forward to your endless discussion about Mirror's Edge again!

[Slothy]

Anyone unfamiliar with the brilliance of Vanquish has a pitiable life.

Glad to see Demon's Souls on the list of course.

[Ayen]

Not sure if the guy in the image is dead or just sleeping.

Or both...

[Hollycat]

To me hard doesn't mean fun. I know I'm in the minority here, but I disliked Demon's souls.

[Del Murder]

Dark Souls is the later one, isn't it? I'm assuming that's on the list too.

I've never played these games and I probably never will, though I can appreciate the effort to make a challenging game in this era of hand-holding. So it's pretty cool that this game exists. For me, I don't want to play a punishingly difficult game. Maybe that would be fun in my youth, but these days I prefer a mild challenge that keeps me busy for a little while until it's time to move on to the next thing. Life is already challenge enough. I don't need it in my games.

[Ayen]

Agreed with HC and Del on this one. Spelunky is the perfect example of a game that is hard and challenging but is also fun and addicting to play. I didn't get that with Dark Souls, and since everybody who played both games has told me Demons Soul is actually harder I'm even less interested in it.

[Dr Unne]

There are many reasons to play games: to relax, to enjoy a nice story or nice artwork, to socialize, to pass the time or take your mind off of things, whatever. That's totally fine. Demon's Souls fills a niche for people who see gaming as a skill they want to improve, or as a challenge that needs to be overcome. It's not relaxing, but it is rewarding and fulfilling. The harder the challenge, the greater the reward.

In the old days a lot of games were hard probably because game designers had no clue how to balance a game properly. Some of us grew up in that era and grew to enjoy the pain. I'm glad someone decided that games like Demon's Souls should still exist today, this time deliberately and with full intent to make it as hard as possible while still being tolerable. It brings back fond(?) memories of endless NES game over screens.

[Madame Adequate]

Civilization V (1)

Well, it's not much, but there is some justice.

[Slothy]

In the old days a lot of games were hard probably because game designers had no clue how to balance a game properly.

I'd say it had a lot more to do with games growing out of the arcade scene where easy games wouldn't make money. Even when things moved to home consoles, technical limitations prevented them from making games with tons of content compared to what we're used to now, so it was either make your games really hard, or accept that people probably won't play them for very long, let alone replay them. Look at how long a lot of those games like the original Mega Man's take to beat if you've completely mastered them. I don't think most people would have found them to be an acceptable length if they could do that on the first try and there was no challenge to keep you coming back for more.

We live in such a different era now.

[Bolivar]

Finally games I nominated! Demon's Souls was also on my list in the thread where everybody listed their own top 10 games of the generation.

I hear people say Demon's Souls is more like a Western RPG (and attribute that to its success), most likely because of the macabre/medieval style. But in truth, the game is as Japanese as it gets. I always compare this game to Ghouls and Ghosts/Goblins/Gangsters with its haunting atmosphere and approach to enemy encounters, where the game expects you to do a bit of memorization but mostly to raise your skill.

And the multiplayer was no doubt revolutionary. Even going into the next generation there's tons of games ripping off the concept.

I also can't stress enough what Unne said. Too many games today, even in the overhyped Indie scene, strive on immediacy and accessibility. I'm glad we still have games like Demon's Souls where the fun doesn't trickle out in constant streams; it explodes in your face in epic moments of rewarding achievement.

[Jessweeee♪]

Now I want to play Mirror's Edge again, but I lent my copy to a guy and then forgot to ask for it back before I broke up with him and then I felt like it would just be awkward.

I think I'll just buy a new copy.

[Ayen]

I hear people say Demon's Souls is more like a Western RPG (and attribute that to its success), most likely because of the macabre/medieval style. But in truth, the game is as Japanese as it gets. I always compare this game to Ghouls and Ghosts/Goblins/Gangsters with its haunting atmosphere and approach to enemy encounters, where the game expects yiu to do a bit of memorization but mostly to raise your skill.

I think most Action RPGs gets lumped into the WRPG category these days.

[Dr Unne]

I'd say it had a lot more to do with games growing out of the arcade scene where easy games wouldn't make money. Even when things moved to home consoles, technical limitations prevented them from making games with tons of content compared to what we're used to now, so it was either make your games really hard, or accept that people probably won't play them for very long, let alone replay them. Look at how long a lot of those games like the original Mega Man's take to beat if you've completely mastered them. I don't think most people would have found them to be an acceptable length if they could do that on the first try and there was no challenge to keep you coming back for more.

That's all true. Mega Man can be speedrun in ~ 30 minutes. So can Dark Souls actually. :redface:

There was also accidental, artificial difficulty. I'm thinking about having to spend 10 minutes hitting A if you wanted to buy 99 heal potions in FF1. Or every other game that was fun enough that I wanted to play it, but had such bad controls that it was hard to function in the game. And then the random insane difficulty spikes out of nowhere, like one-hit kills from Sorcerers on the last floor of the last dungeon in FF1.

[Slothy]

There was also accidental, artificial difficulty. I'm thinking about having to spend 10 minutes hitting A if you wanted to buy 99 heal potions in FF1.

That's not artificial difficulty, that's just stupidity. Not saying difficulty never happened due to bad game design (it still does today in fact). It just wasn't only because of it.

[Pike]

I like whoever nominated Monaco because that was a great game.

[Hollycat]

Mirror's Edge is a first person game? I usually hate first person view. A game has to be pretty good for me to play it in first person view. Like Portal!

Here's a speed run of the game without cutscenes, watch the first 2 or 3 minutes and you'll be able to decide if you want to play it.
p-OUNPqRzII


I would like to apologize, I remembered the graphics looking worse than they do. It still isn't the Sistine Chapel, but it is prettier than I remembered.

[SirPrizes]

I'd say it had a lot more to do with games growing out of the arcade scene where easy games wouldn't make money. Even when things moved to home consoles, technical limitations prevented them from making games with tons of content compared to what we're used to now, so it was either make your games really hard, or accept that people probably won't play them for very long, let alone replay them. Look at how long a lot of those games like the original Mega Man's take to beat if you've completely mastered them. I don't think most people would have found them to be an acceptable length if they could do that on the first try and there was no challenge to keep you coming back for more.

That's all true. Mega Man can be speedrun in ~ 30 minutes. So can Dark Souls actually. :redface:

There was also accidental, artificial difficulty. I'm thinking about having to spend 10 minutes hitting A if you wanted to buy 99 heal potions in FF1. Or every other game that was fun enough that I wanted to play it, but had such bad controls that it was hard to function in the game. And then the random insane difficulty spikes out of nowhere, like one-hit kills from Sorcerers on the last floor of the last dungeon in FF1.
Both Demon's and Dark can be completed in under an hour, which just goes to show how little filler there actually is in these games. That's another reason why I love them so much, and the time difference between a normal playthrough (which can easily take upwards for 40 hours) and a speedrun really goes to show just how far skill and competency in the game goes. Time in the games aren't taken up by unskippable cutscenes or fetch quests, they're just pure action roleplaying non-stop. That kind of super focused design, to me, is great game design.

[Del Murder]

Here's a speed run of the game without cutscenes, watch the first 2 or 3 minutes and you'll be able to decide if you want to play it.
p-OUNPqRzII
It made me dizzy. But I kinda liked it.

[Pete for President]

I'd say it had a lot more to do with games growing out of the arcade scene where easy games wouldn't make money. Even when things moved to home consoles, technical limitations prevented them from making games with tons of content compared to what we're used to now, so it was either make your games really hard, or accept that people probably won't play them for very long, let alone replay them. Look at how long a lot of those games like the original Mega Man's take to beat if you've completely mastered them. I don't think most people would have found them to be an acceptable length if they could do that on the first try and there was no challenge to keep you coming back for more.

That's all true. Mega Man can be speedrun in ~ 30 minutes. So can Dark Souls actually. :redface:

There was also accidental, artificial difficulty. I'm thinking about having to spend 10 minutes hitting A if you wanted to buy 99 heal potions in FF1. Or every other game that was fun enough that I wanted to play it, but had such bad controls that it was hard to function in the game. And then the random insane difficulty spikes out of nowhere, like one-hit kills from Sorcerers on the last floor of the last dungeon in FF1.
Both Demon's and Dark can be completed in under an hour, which just goes to show how little filler there actually is in these games. That's another reason why I love them so much, and the time difference between a normal playthrough (which can easily take upwards for 40 hours) and a speedrun really goes to show just how far skill and competency in the game goes. Time in the games aren't taken up by unskippable cutscenes or fetch quests, they're just pure action roleplaying non-stop. That kind of super focused design, to me, is great game design.

Quoted, for truth!

Glad to see Demon's Souls made the list and praise the sun for I think that Dark Souls will be on it too. Phenomenal games and I can't wait to find out what gruesome deaths, philosophical epiphanies and jolly characters Dark Souls 2 will bring us.

[Jessweeee♪]

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[Slothy]

I didn't finish the actual AC Revelations game, but that's better than what I did play.

[edczxcvbnm]

While Ass Creed 2 is okay, I thought it was a bit of a mess. A mess that the sequel, Brotherhood, cleaned up and is the superior game. That said none of the Ass games made my list but Brotherhood was close.

I voted for Civ 5. Awesomely fun game.

I have never played Demons Soul and not do I want to. I am not against the high difficulty but I would prefer to work my way there. The games I really like, I tend to go back to and amp up the difficulty as time goes on. Challenge is important in games but I don't care for a nut grinder simply for nut grinders sake.

[Spuuky]

Civilization V (1)

Well, it's not much, but there is some justice.To be fair that wasn't me, I actually didn't vote for any Civ game.

[edczxcvbnm]

I voted for Civ 5. No more stacks of doom!!!

[Shauna]

Mass Effect
2007 – PC, PS3, Xbox 360
7 Nominations
http://i.imgur.com/Wz4wkLp.jpg


I'm Commander Shepard, and this is my favourite game of this generation.

Mass effect is a third person space RPG, where you assume direct control, if you want, of Commander Shepard, a completely awesome person who just happens to have what it takes to save the entire galaxy from more or less anything you could possibly throw at her (yes, her, deal with it). The game offers a lot of exploration, excellent music, likable characters and also a pretty cool story, bro. Although I personally thing some of the actual combat mechanics were better in the two later games, I think the actual "RPG" part is a lot better in the first of them.

The trilogy may not have ended on the highest of notes but from Mass Effect 1 to 3 the journey was amazing. It tugged at the heart strings, thrusting you into decisions with actual consequences - allowing you to be a goodie two shoes or a bad ass who makes trout happen. The refinements in 2 and 3 may not have been to everyone’s tastes but there's no denying that Mass Effect was a masterpiece out of left field.

All in all, Mass Effect is a game that everyone who like RPGs and sci-fi should try. Also, the Mako rocks and anyone who says otherwise is clearly mentally challenged.

Catherine (3)
Final Fantasy XIV: A Realm Reborn (2)
Plants Vs Zombies (2)
Candies (1)
Killzone 3 (1)
Final Fantasy: Dissidia 012 (1)
Dragon's Crown (1)
Tatsunoko vs Capcom: Cross Generation of Heroes (1)
Europa Universalis III (1)
Final Fantasy IV Complete (1)

Five more titles to go after this! How exciting!

[Ayen]

I approve.

[Loony BoB]

Two votes for FFXIV, and none of them were me, before anyone says it. Really glad it's getting that kind of approval, though!

And definitely glad to see Mass Effect up there, such a fantastic game.

[Slothy]

Such a boring game.

[SirPrizes]

Such a boring game.
I agree. Mass Effect is another game from this gen I didn't really get. Never tried the sequels.

[Gamblet]

Such a boring game.
I agree. Mass Effect is another game from this gen I didn't really get. Never tried the sequels.

You are missing out. ;)

[Hollycat]

Mass Effect was good, but Mass Effect 2 was on an entirely different level.

Also, how did Catherine get even one vote?

[Del Murder]

Never played Mass Effect, since it had never came out for PS3. Eventually it did come out as part of a multi-pack, which I may play at some point. I loved ME2 and ME3 so much that I probably should play the first.

[Hollycat]

Never played Mass Effect, since it had never came out for PS3. Eventually it did come out as part of a multi-pack, which I may play at some point. I loved ME2 and ME3 so much that I probably should play the first.
You can pick it up for $10 I believe on PSN. Comes with all the DLC.

[Slothy]

Also, how did Catherine get even one vote?

Because it's awesome. :colbert:

[edczxcvbnm]

I loved Mass Effect 1 but I hated ME2 and refused to play the third. ME from a gameplay perspective is extremely similar to KOTOR which is fine because that game was awesome. The story, exploration and everything was some good fun world building. Most of what I liked was discarded in 2 in favor of a sorry Gears of Wars style gameplay mixed with Ocean's 11...but where in Ocean's 11, the team is formed in the first 1/3 of the movie (if that) it takes the entire game to do that here. Additionally the big and massive decision at the end of the first game seems to get brushed under the rug to maintain a status quo.

Also, the MAKO was awesome and fun as hell. Gave a sense of how big and awesome the universe can be. That is replaced by a terrible scanning game from orbit. I want to explore!

[Hollycat]

I loved Mass Effect 1 but I hated ME2 and refused to play the third. ME from a gameplay perspective is extremely similar to KOTOR which is fine because that game was awesome. The story, exploration and everything was some good fun world building. Most of what I liked was discarded in 2 in favor of a sorry Gears of Wars style gameplay mixed with Ocean's 11...but where in Ocean's 11, the team is formed in the first 1/3 of the movie (if that) it takes the entire game to do that here. Additionally the big and massive decision at the end of the first game seems to get brushed under the rug to maintain a status quo.

Also, the MAKO was awesome and fun as hell. Gave a sense of how big and awesome the universe can be. That is replaced by a terrible scanning game from orbit. I want to explore!
I actually preferred the Hammerhead vehicle from ME2.
As for decision are you talking about kaiden vs ashley?
Cause I feel there are bigger decisions in both 2 and 3.

[Slothy]

Also, the MAKO was awesome and fun as hell. Gave a sense of how big and awesome the universe can be. That is replaced by a terrible scanning game from orbit. I want to explore!

Yeah, driving around in big empty expanses with almost nothing to do and terrible controls sure was fun as hell. :roll2

[Loony BoB]

You know what? It really was.

[Slothy]

I have to question the sanity of anyone who found that thing fun. And I'm not just being facetious for once. Mass Effect had some of the worst driving levels I've seen in a 3D game.

[Hollycat]

In order to get everything you had to take ridiculously circuitous routes without enemies, items, varying level design. It was not a high point for the game.

[Loony BoB]

...there were levels? I just grabbed that sucker, drove around, looked for random things and hopped out and shot up some enemies. Countless missions, all mostly the same, but you can generally say the same for Tetris, Pac-Man and so forth. Hell, you could say the same for every FF battle you hop into. Whereas they got rid of the Mako in favour of... scanning. Oh boy. I feel so refreshed with this much more entertaining option of things to do.

Mako missions were a nice way of leveling up and they weren't always the same (and certainly lasted longer than five seconds), which is more than I can say for the replacement options. The amount of time I spent doing Mako missions was significantly higher than 2/3's options, and it was significantly more fun.

[Shauna]

The MAKO: Driving vertically since 2007.

I don't mind the thing too much, I just love the rage it instills in everyone.

[Hollycat]

...there were levels? I just grabbed that sucker, drove around, looked for random things and hopped out and shot up some enemies. Countless missions, all mostly the same, but you can generally say the same for Tetris, Pac-Man and so forth. Hell, you could say the same for every FF battle you hop into. Whereas they got rid of the Mako in favour of... scanning. Oh boy. I feel so refreshed with this much more entertaining option of things to do.


Mako missions were a nice way of leveling up and they weren't always the same (and certainly lasted longer than five seconds), which is more than I can say for the replacement options. The amount of time I spent doing Mako missions was significantly higher than 2/3's options, and it was significantly more fun.

They had a vehicle in ME2. The Hammerhead.
The Mako sections were filler.

[Loony BoB]

They had a vehicle in ME2. The Hammerhead.
The Mako sections were filler.
Hammerhead missions were DLC, right? Doesn't count, because it wasn't in my ME2 game. :p I don't judge a game by DLC.

[Hollycat]

They had a vehicle in ME2. The Hammerhead.
The Mako sections were filler.
Hammerhead missions were DLC, right? Doesn't count, because it wasn't in my ME2 game. :p I don't judge a game by DLC.

The dlc came with new copies of the game.

[Loony BoB]

I honestly can't ever remember controlling any vehicles in ME2. Did this come out much later than the game or something? If so, again, it doesn't count if I couldn't play it. :p

[Slothy]

Countless missions, all mostly the same, but you can generally say the same for Tetris, Pac-Man and so forth. Hell, you could say the same for every FF battle you hop into.

Except that Tetris, Pac-Man and FF don't tend to suffer from things like boring controls and absolutely nothing to do.

The Mako was like Pac-Man if he just kept moving right down a corridor endlessly eating dots. No maze, no corners, no ghosts, no power ups. Just moving. Or Tetris if all you had was a single column and the straight blocks.

[Hollycat]

Countless missions, all mostly the same, but you can generally say the same for Tetris, Pac-Man and so forth. Hell, you could say the same for every FF battle you hop into.

Except that Tetris, Pac-Man and FF don't tend to suffer from things like boring controls and absolutely nothing to do.

The Mako was like Pac-Man if he just kept moving right down a corridor endlessly eating dots. No maze, no corners, no ghosts, no power ups. Just moving. Or Tetris if all you had was a single column and the straight blocks.
^^^^ perfect comparison.

[Loony BoB]

Countless missions, all mostly the same, but you can generally say the same for Tetris, Pac-Man and so forth. Hell, you could say the same for every FF battle you hop into.

Except that Tetris, Pac-Man and FF don't tend to suffer from things like boring controls and absolutely nothing to do.

The Mako was like Pac-Man if he just kept moving right down a corridor endlessly eating dots. No maze, no corners, no ghosts, no power ups. Just moving. Or Tetris if all you had was a single column and the straight blocks.
The Mako was you controlling something to get to a certain place, and if you felt like it, you could dick around with a tank to shoot things with. I really don't get how that equates to holding one down the up button. If you simply held down one button on the Mako (which is what you would need to do in your rather pathetic analogies/comparisons/whatever the hell those were) then you would not finish any Mako missions whatsoever.

I think you guys were doing it wrong. :smash:

[Hollycat]

Countless missions, all mostly the same, but you can generally say the same for Tetris, Pac-Man and so forth. Hell, you could say the same for every FF battle you hop into.

Except that Tetris, Pac-Man and FF don't tend to suffer from things like boring controls and absolutely nothing to do.

The Mako was like Pac-Man if he just kept moving right down a corridor endlessly eating dots. No maze, no corners, no ghosts, no power ups. Just moving. Or Tetris if all you had was a single column and the straight blocks.
The Mako was you controlling something to get to a certain place, and if you felt like it, you could dick around with a tank to shoot things with. I really don't get how that equates to holding one down the up button. If you simply held down one button on the Mako (which is what you would need to do in your rather pathetic analogies/comparisons/whatever the hell those were) then you would not finish any Mako missions whatsoever.

I think you guys were doing it wrong. :smash:

There was exactly one thing to dick around and shoot. Monkeys. And killing them gave you renegade.

[Loony BoB]

...did you guys never actually go to the random colonies that had been invaded by Geth?

[Hollycat]

...did you guys never actually go to the random colonies that had been invaded by Geth?
I went to all of them. 100%. besides the missions that could be accomplished the same way they are in 2 and 3, the only thing to do is shoot monkey and spend a long time climbing hills.

[Spuuky]

Want see a prime example of AAA-bias at work? A game like Plants vs Zombies (the second-greatest indie game of all time, and maybe the greatest non-gamer game of all time) got 2 votes.

[Slothy]

Plants Vs. Zombies is a pretty fun game for a while, but I wouldn't go so far as to call it the second greatest indie game ever. And every version I've played aside from the original PC version was an unbearably tedious grind to unlock the bonus levels and such.

I could probably name a half-dozen recent indie titles that I liked more just in my favourites list in my Steam library. And that's without resorting to Valve titles since they're technically independent.

[Psychotic]

The Mako was BALLER.

[Gamblet]

You guys are forgetting the best part about Mass Effect's Mako.... The unexpected thresher maw attacks. How come is not battling a giant worm fun?

[Del Murder]

Want see a prime example of AAA-bias at work? A game like Plants vs Zombies (the second-greatest indie game of all time, and maybe the greatest non-gamer game of all time) got 2 votes.
Sorry I only had one spot left and it went to Friut Ninja

[Spuuky]

Plants Vs. Zombies is a pretty fun game for a while, but I wouldn't go so far as to call it the second greatest indie game ever. And every version I've played aside from the original PC version was an unbearably tedious grind to unlock the bonus levels and such.

I could probably name a half-dozen recent indie titles that I liked more just in my favourites list in my Steam library. And that's without resorting to Valve titles since they're technically independent.I use "indie" in the colloquial sense, although yes, Valve does technically publish the games it develops, too.

The PC version is the only version I have played, so I can't really say anything about other versions of the game. And sure, I could name games I personally enjoyed more, but I wouldn't say they were "better" than it, just that they matched my personal tastes or desires for a game more; none of them are games I've seen people around me enjoy nearly as much as PvZ.

[Slothy]

A lot of people around me enjoyed Wii Sports but it's not a very good game.

There are a lot of indie games I would say are better games than Plants Vs. Zombies. Certainly not as popular, but I don't factor that into the equation when I evaluate a game. If we're going to debate games based on their level of success then certainly PvZ is up there.

[Shauna]

Dark Souls
2011 – PC, PS3, Xbox 360
7 Nominations
http://i.imgur.com/KbUktxC.jpg


As the spiritual successor to Demon's Souls, Dark Souls had a lot to live up to. Demon's Souls already established a game with an exact and punishing challenge, flexibility in accommodation for a large amount of playstyles, a combat system that rewarded deliberacy and precision, and a seamless multiplayer component. So how would Dark Souls take these established elements and progress them further?

Perhaps the biggest change between Demon's Souls and Dark Souls is the game's structure. No longer do players access different levels through a central hub, but all regions of the world of Lordran are seamlessly connected in a way that evokes memories of Super Metroid and Symphony of the Night. As players progress through the game, they will unlock doors or activate elevators that enable quick traversal through its world, and after a certain point, they can use the bonfires strewn throughout the land (the only beacons of safety and warmth) to warp between locations. Due to its seamless structure, Dark Souls offers even more flexibility in play than its predecessor; just like the aforementioned Super Metroid and Symphony of the Night, players can progress through the game in a large variety of ways and tackle the game's first and second halves in essentially any order. It is this vast freedom offered to the player that makes Dark Souls an even more compelling experience, in many ways, than Demon's Souls was before it.

Besides changes to the game's progression, it feels largely like a logical increment of what Demon's Souls had to offer. Multiplayer has been expanded through the covenant system which, while sloppily executed in some aspects, offers new amounts of depth and replayability for those who like to invade or help others through jolly cooperation. Each covenant also has a rich and detailed backstory contained in Lordran's lore, which leads to another defining aspect of Dark Souls: its storytelling.

Though many will find its story elements lacking because they are not told to the player in the traditional sense they are accustomed to (progress through a gameplay segment, watch a cutscene, repeat), the history of the world of Lordran and the way your story as the Chosen Undead fits into it is unveiled brilliantly, rewarding those compelled to investigate further. Upon closer investigation of item descriptions or the player's surroundings, the player is able to piece together a tale that is much larger than the scope of his own adventure. The tragedies of Seath, the Witches of Izalith, and Priscilla; the decay of the world of Lordran as a whole; the failures of many before you in Sen's Fortress; all are hidden away, left to be discovered by investigative players in a way that further adds to the atmosphere and mystique of the game's world. This indirect method of storytelling through observation and context, inspired by the creator's own experiences trying to piece together English fantasy stories as a Japanese child, is one of the most defining aspects of Dark Souls, and serves to tell a tale of massive scope without once interrupting the gameplay.

With the depth of its combat, multiplayer, flexibility, and lore, it is easy to see why many consider Dark Souls one of the finest games of the generation.

Heavy Rain (3)
Darkest Hour (2)
The World Ends With You (2)
Apollo Justice: Ace Attorney (1)
Analogue: A Hate Story (1)
Saints Row 2 (1)
Muramasa: The Demon Blade (1)
Warrior's Orochi 2 (1)
Resident Evil 6 (1)

I will take this moment to announce that Dragon Age: Origins actually received two nominations, but my Excel spreadsheet did not pick this up because I had typed both "Dragon Age Origins" and "Dragon Age: Origins", both with one nomination each. Whoops.

[Hollycat]

Someone actually voted for RE6? whaaaaat?! That doesn't even make sense silly. Game of the Generation goes to good games.

[Bolivar]

And preferrably ones you agree with?

Too bad Heavy Rain didn't make it. It was an incredibly ambitious game with an insane amount of polish and overall achieved its goals in my eyes.

I also probably should get around to playing dark souls eventually.

[Scotty_ffgamer]

Hurray, I wasn't the only one who voted for The World Ends with You! The other person who voted it gets a high five. As a side note, I lent that game to a friend about a year ago and haven't seen it since =(.

I probably should get around to playing the Demon/Dark Souls games. I own Demon Souls but only played it for a couple of minutes and then kind of forgot that I owned it.

[Del Murder]

I figured Dark Souls would be up there.

TWEWY is great. I just had some better games to nominate. The DS had a strong lineup in general.

[Pete for President]

Praise the sun!

To everyone who hasn't played Demon's Souls or Dark Souls yet and is deterred by their image of being punishingly difficult; that may seem true for the first few hours, but there are always people in-game to help you out in it's amazing multiplayer options and with Dark Souls being on Steam sales regularly (it was only $7,50 not too long ago) this might be worth giving a try nonetheless. And to think of it, the game is not that difficult. In this age, yes maybe, but I find the difficulty comparable to games like FFT and Vagrant Story.

I remember being in doubt whether to buy Dark Souls or not for weeks, and when I eventually did I doubted my purchase during the first couple hours of gameplay. With fear talked into me by the things I read online I nervously ventured into the first few levels, afraid of what horrors might await. The feeling stuck until I beat the first boss; the thrill of slaying a demon thrice your size with a trusty shield and sturdy sword after being slain yourself 3-4 times was very intense.

And now it's my favorite game of all time thus far. Praise the sun!

[Aulayna]

I didn't actually know we could nominate DS games as I wasn't really sure what generation that would be classed as. :(

[Loony BoB]

Dammit, Shauna. Some of the games I love haven't been revealed as not making the cut yet and you're getting my hopes oh-so-high. :(

[Spuuky]

So we're in the "top 5" at this point, right? I believe that game was #5, if you are revealing 20 games?

[Shauna]

I am pretty sure I said in my original post that PSP, DS, Wii, 360 and PS3 games could be nominated, and for the sake of allowing the PC master race to not be left out, games released on PC after ~arbitrary date~.

Dammit guys!

And yes, we are essentially in the "Top 5". I can't say that any one game from the tier of 7 nominations is #5 because there were 5 games with that number of noms.

[Shauna]

The Last Of Us
2013 – PS3
8 Nominations
http://i.imgur.com/prB4AEL.png


Naughty Dog's PS3 swan song. Where the hell did this thing come from? It's a wonderful game for a lot of reasons that don't seem very wonderful. It's challenging, resources are fairly scarce, and it is one hell of a brutally violent ride through a post-apocalyptic, zombies with a bad fungal infection infested America. Humans are usually as bad as the monsters, sometimes worse, and you'll certainly question by the end whether or not you're the worst of all.

But behind it all is this story of a father who lost his daughter, a girl who might cure the zombie plague, and the journey that brings them together. If it sounds cliche, it's really not. These are broken people in a broken world doing the best they can and making their fair share of bad decisions and crossing into some moral grey areas along the way.

The game itself is great as well. Think Uncharted with fewer bullets, no climbing, more stealth and if the violence was less Indiana Jones and more Walking Dead. It all comes together tremendously well to create an experience that can go from nail bitingly tense, heart wrenchingly touching, and straight back to unsettlingly casual in its brutality. It's easily one of the best games on any platform this generation.


Dwarf Fortress (3)
BlazBlue Continuum Shift Extend (2)
Bioshock (2)
Halo Reach (1)
2nd Super Robot Wars: Original Generations (1)
Frog Fractions (1)
Assassin's Creed IV: Black Flag (1)
Tekken 6 (1)
Borderlands 2 (1)
Resonance of Fate (1)

Top 3 next. Which games could possibly be yet to come at this late stage of the event?

[Hollycat]

Was a very good game.

[Pike]

Have we had The Walking Dead yet? I'm calling that one as one of the impending winners.

Also good to see Darkest Hour and Dorf Fort.

I tried so hard to like Dark Souls, I really did. I put hours into that game trying to like it. But I finally stopped when I realized I wasn't enjoying it at all. Sorry guys!

[Spuuky]

Have we had The Walking Dead yet? I'm calling that one as one of the impending winners.

Also good to see Darkest Hour and Dorf Fort.

I tried so hard to like Dark Souls, I really did. I put hours into that game trying to like it. But I finally stopped when I realized I wasn't enjoying it at all. Sorry guys!We already had The Walking Dead, yes, way back in the 5-nomination zone.

[Pike]

Oh. Disregard then!

Edit: Changing my bet to Fallout New Vegas.

[Spuuky]

Yeah, I'm pretty sure New Vegas will be one of them. I'd also be somewhat shocked if Minecraft wasn't one of them.

[Del Murder]

My guess for top 3:

Uncharted 2
Minecraft
Skyrim

Probably in that order.


Yeah, I'm pretty sure New Vegas will be one of them. I'd also be somewhat shocked if Minecraft wasn't one of them.
New Vegas was already mentioned. But not Elder Scrolls!

[Spuuky]

Oh, right, I forgot that wasn't actually Fallout 3.

Skyrim is clearly a worse game than New Vegas, but I guess it's a pretty good game still.

[Shauna]

Next guess to go along with all yours: Final Fantasy XIII will take top spot!

[Del Murder]

As for The Last of Us: it was a wonderful game with one of the deepest character relationships I've ever seen in games. The stealth gameplay was very fun and a nice change in pace to run-and-gun style of other games. It was also absolutly stunning to look at. The most beautiful game I've ever played. And it took place in an post-apocalypse!

[Pike]

I'll actually be surprised if Skyrim is up there. I liked it quite a bit, but most threads about it on here turn into some sort of weird "Am I the only person who didn't like this game" thing, which is hilarious because clearly you people aren't if everyone else is saying the same thing! :colbert:

[Hollycat]

I'll actually be surprised if Skyrim is up there. I liked it quite a bit, but most threads about it on here turn into some sort of weird "Am I the only person who didn't like this game" thing, which is hilarious because clearly you people aren't if everyone else is saying the same thing! :colbert:

I adore Skyrim.

I'm betting Skyrim, Minecraft and.... and...

I can't think of another really big hit that hasn't already been on here.
I'll go with Del's answer of Uncharted 2, but in my opinion The Last of Us was way better.

[Ayen]

This thread in a nutshell: everyone else's taste in video games sucks apart from my own, I am the last authority on video games and my word is law.

I understand anyone who didn't like the Mako in Mass Effect 1 or thought it was slower compared to 2. It really does show it JRPG side when you reach the Citadel and 2 improves on a lot of the gameplay. It didn't help that I played 2 first. I just personally have a preference towards the crew in the first game and the story over the second.

Dark Souls was clever. Never played The Last of Us (god I want to) but I haven't heard a single bad thing about this game since it came out, so no surprises here.

[Pike]

This thread in a nutshell: everyone else's taste in video games sucks apart from my own, I am the last authority on video games and my word is law.

I think you mean "EoFF gaming forums in a nutshell". :greenie:

[Slothy]

This thread in a nutshell: everyone else's taste in video games sucks apart from my own, I am the last authority on video games and my word is law.

Finally! Someone who gets me! :love:

[Spuuky]

This thread in a nutshell: everyone else's taste in video games sucks apart from my own, I am the last authority on video games and my word is law.

I think you mean "EoFF gaming forums in a nutshell". :greenie:This is still true if you subtract "EoFF gaming," though.

[Hollycat]

I just like Freelancer and Crisis Core. Anyone who enjoys any other games is wrong.

[Madame Adequate]

I grew bored of Dark Souls after awhile. I can see the appeal, I think it's a great game, but there's only so many times you can lose your stuff because you die to some bullshit before you get back to your soul before you grow fed up with the mechanic. For me that number was twice. The first time I lost a significant amount I quit for days. The second time I quit for good. Not worth bothering, it just seems like pointlessly punishing someone and you can say "Git gud" all you like, it doesn't change that I think it's a fundamentally bad mechanic that ruined a lot of fun I was having in the game. It's not punishingly difficult, that implies that the game itself is hard - it's not, once you get the hang of it. It's just that the inevitable screwups we all make in any game are punished.

Also there's a point where storytelling is too subtle and unintrusive. I COULD scour every last engraving in the world to try and learn about the history of Random Asshole Undead #27,412 but why the hell would I bother doing that? I'd chase down all kinds of things if I actually care - look at how much sperging I've done over Morrowind and how ten years later we're still finding things in the game - but there's got to be a hook to begin with and Dark Souls just doesn't have that. Also there's 'exploration', and then there's 'just a bunch of stuff' that people try to fit into a coherent narrative because that's what we do when we're fans of things.

All that said the combat is supremely well-executed and the game has nearly flawless aesthetic design, as well as being astonishingly gorgeous. I don't even oppose it being on a list like this, necessarily, I just think it's very overrated. One of the best games of the generation? I can see that. One of the best games ever made ever ever? ... nah.

[Scotty_ffgamer]

I'm glad to see The Last of Us on the list. Unfortunately, I didn't vote for it since I hadn't played through the majority of it until after sending in nominations. I tried playing Uncharted 3 afterwards and it was just so hard to get used to. The controls felt way worse and the gameplay was much less interesting. I know they are different story genres, but I do hope future Naughty Dog games take more after The Last of Us than Uncharted.

I'm excited to see what else makes the list!

[Slothy]

Knowing Naughty Dog I doubt they'll make a game like Uncharted again so I wouldn't worry too much about whether future titles take after it or not. They seem pretty happy to start a series, make a few games, then move on to something different. It's one of the things I respect most about them.

[Hollycat]

Knowing Naughty Dog I doubt they'll make a game like Uncharted again so I wouldn't worry too much about whether future titles take after it or not. They seem pretty happy to start a series, make a few games, then move on to something different. It's one of the things I respect most about them.
They announced another one.

[Slothy]

Did Naughty Dog announce another one or is another company making it?

EDIT: Looks like ND did. I'm rather surprised to be honest. Hopefully they can do something new with it. Usually they make three games and move on and let other companies take over.

[Bolivar]

I was surprised, too, Vivi.

I know what one of the top games is cause I did the write up! Does this mean my opinion on video games is valid!?

[Slothy]

I know what one of the top games is cause I did the write up! Does this mean my opinion on video games is valid!?

Only if mine is super valid because I know what all the games are and did quite a few write ups, even if some didn't make it because others were objectively better.

[Ayen]

Usually they make three games and move on and let other companies take over.

So THAT'S what happened to Crash Bandicoot >.>

[Mo-Nercy]

Smurf all but two of you, Catherine was awesome.

I expected The Last of Us to be top three. Interesting.

[Jessweeee♪]

Also, how did Catherine get even one vote?

Because it's awesome. :colbert:


Smurf all but two of you, Catherine was awesome.

I expected The Last of Us to be top three. Interesting.

The three of us will make our own club with Catherine and blackjack!

[edczxcvbnm]

I loved Mass Effect 1 but I hated ME2 and refused to play the third. ME from a gameplay perspective is extremely similar to KOTOR which is fine because that game was awesome. The story, exploration and everything was some good fun world building. Most of what I liked was discarded in 2 in favor of a sorry Gears of Wars style gameplay mixed with Ocean's 11...but where in Ocean's 11, the team is formed in the first 1/3 of the movie (if that) it takes the entire game to do that here. Additionally the big and massive decision at the end of the first game seems to get brushed under the rug to maintain a status quo.

Also, the MAKO was awesome and fun as hell. Gave a sense of how big and awesome the universe can be. That is replaced by a terrible scanning game from orbit. I want to explore!
I actually preferred the Hammerhead vehicle from ME2.
As for decision are you talking about kaiden vs ashley?
Cause I feel there are bigger decisions in both 2 and 3.

Hammerhead? Must be some DLC thing. Never saw it in the game.

I am not talking about that at all. Though it would have been nice to actually carry over and evolve the character relationships from game to game. The decision I am talking about had to do with how you choose to end the game. Either way things are back to the status quo and you couldn't tell the difference with what you had decided. I felt it was a slap to the face. If my decision has no discernible effect, please don't give me the illusion of choice.

All of this talk makes me want to play KOTOR again.

[Mo-Nercy]

Usually they make three games and move on and let other companies take over.

So THAT'S what happened to Crash Bandicoot >.>
I'm still waiting for the Uncharted karting game.

[Hollycat]

I loved Mass Effect 1 but I hated ME2 and refused to play the third. ME from a gameplay perspective is extremely similar to KOTOR which is fine because that game was awesome. The story, exploration and everything was some good fun world building. Most of what I liked was discarded in 2 in favor of a sorry Gears of Wars style gameplay mixed with Ocean's 11...but where in Ocean's 11, the team is formed in the first 1/3 of the movie (if that) it takes the entire game to do that here. Additionally the big and massive decision at the end of the first game seems to get brushed under the rug to maintain a status quo.

Also, the MAKO was awesome and fun as hell. Gave a sense of how big and awesome the universe can be. That is replaced by a terrible scanning game from orbit. I want to explore!
I actually preferred the Hammerhead vehicle from ME2.
As for decision are you talking about kaiden vs ashley?
Cause I feel there are bigger decisions in both 2 and 3.

Hammerhead? Must be some DLC thing. Never saw it in the game.

I am not talking about that at all. Though it would have been nice to actually carry over and evolve the character relationships from game to game. The decision I am talking about had to do with how you choose to end the game. Either way things are back to the status quo and you couldn't tell the difference with what you had decided. I felt it was a slap to the face. If my decision has no discernible effect, please don't give me the illusion of choice.

All of this talk makes me want to play KOTOR again.
How are either one of those choices returning to the status quo? one gives humanity a counsil seat and that shapes the third game a lot, also it allows you to remain a spectre. The other results in the deaths of the leaders of the aliens blocks of lots of stuff in the third game

[Madame Adequate]

Usually they make three games and move on and let other companies take over.

So THAT'S what happened to Crash Bandicoot >.>
I'm still waiting for the Uncharted karting game.

Seriously, where the heck is that already!

[Hollycat]

Usually they make three games and move on and let other companies take over.

So THAT'S what happened to Crash Bandicoot >.>
I'm still waiting for the Uncharted karting game.

Seriously, where the heck is that already!
Don't their cart games usually come out after the next system? It shouldn't be long now.

[Ayen]

They um... They do a lot of kart games, do they?

[Hollycat]

They um... They do a lot of kart games, do they?
1 for each of their IP's so far. At leas on PS.

[Jessweeee♪]

Garrus is just about the only character that doesn't get replaced by an NPC doppelganger if he dies. Kaiden/Ashley don't count because they are replaced by Kaidan/Ashley.

[Mo-Nercy]

They um... They do a lot of kart games, do they?
1 for each of their IP's so far. At leas on PS.
As well as Crash Team Racing, wasn't there a Jak and Daxter karting game too? Could be wrong.

[Hollycat]

They um... They do a lot of kart games, do they?
1 for each of their IP's so far. At leas on PS.
As well as Crash Team Racing, wasn't there a Jak and Daxter karting game too? Could be wrong.
actually 3 kart games for Crash and a racer for Jak (jak x)

[Ayen]

...............

Ellie: (driving down the road in a gold kart) Wee! This is fun!
Joel: Somebody please shoot me.

[Freya]

Little late but, the mako is awesome! It let's you climb MOUNTAINS.

[edczxcvbnm]

I loved Mass Effect 1 but I hated ME2 and refused to play the third. ME from a gameplay perspective is extremely similar to KOTOR which is fine because that game was awesome. The story, exploration and everything was some good fun world building. Most of what I liked was discarded in 2 in favor of a sorry Gears of Wars style gameplay mixed with Ocean's 11...but where in Ocean's 11, the team is formed in the first 1/3 of the movie (if that) it takes the entire game to do that here. Additionally the big and massive decision at the end of the first game seems to get brushed under the rug to maintain a status quo.

Also, the MAKO was awesome and fun as hell. Gave a sense of how big and awesome the universe can be. That is replaced by a terrible scanning game from orbit. I want to explore!
I actually preferred the Hammerhead vehicle from ME2.
As for decision are you talking about kaiden vs ashley?
Cause I feel there are bigger decisions in both 2 and 3.

Hammerhead? Must be some DLC thing. Never saw it in the game.

I am not talking about that at all. Though it would have been nice to actually carry over and evolve the character relationships from game to game. The decision I am talking about had to do with how you choose to end the game. Either way things are back to the status quo and you couldn't tell the difference with what you had decided. I felt it was a slap to the face. If my decision has no discernible effect, please don't give me the illusion of choice.

All of this talk makes me want to play KOTOR again.
How are either one of those choices returning to the status quo? one gives humanity a counsil seat and that shapes the third game a lot, also it allows you to remain a spectre. The other results in the deaths of the leaders of the aliens blocks of lots of stuff in the third game

I played the second game, not the third game. I already talked about why I dislike the second game and it made me think my choices in the first game were largely irrelevant. If those choices finally manifest themselves in the 3rd game then it sounds like they should have skipped the second and moved straight to the third, or at least cut down all of the time in the second spent gathering people.

That said, I don't ever plan on playing the third game. Doesn't look like I would enjoy it.

[Loony BoB]

Haven't played The Last of Us, but it's on my Christmas wish list!

[Shauna]

They um... They do a lot of kart games, do they?
1 for each of their IP's so far. At leas on PS.
As well as Crash Team Racing, wasn't there a Jak and Daxter karting game too? Could be wrong.
actually 3 kart games for Crash and a racer for Jak (jak x)

Only one Crash Racing game was by Naughty Dog, and that was the best (Crash Team Racing) and that appeared on PS1. The other racing games are sub par.
Jak X is also super enjoyable. :3

[Shauna]

Valkyria Chronicles
2008 – PS3
9 Nominations
http://i.imgur.com/LksfgBq.jpg


This is probably the first major advancement the whole Strategy RPG genre has seen in a long time. Forget tiles, let's move all of the soldiers you control in a completely 3D environment. While we're at it, let's toss in some mother smurfing tanks. Because smurf yeah! Tanks! And you'll have to use the terrain to your advantage so you can take cover from enemy fire, get the drop on enemy soldiers, and generally complete missions without losing anyone. Because when someone dies, they stay dead aside from a few key story characters.

Don't think there's enough variety with your different soldier classes, tanks, and those fancy 3D levels? How about adding in a wide variety of crazy mission objectives and challenges to overcome? You'll be sneaking through enemy territory in the dead of night, flanking enemy bases and tanks through nearby hills, fighting tanks the size of office buildings, and blowing up bridges to destroy a train with the biggest piece of artillery you've ever seen on it. Oh, and you have to dodge those artillery bombardments on your way to the bridge.

The story's interesting as well as a sort of fictional Europe type place finding itself embroiled in a bit of a fictional World War 2. It's not quite as dark and serious as that premise might lead you to believe, and the gorgeous graphics that make the world look like a watercolour painting would certainly seem to support that. Plus there's some magic and ancient races thrown into the mix as well, but the story is loaded with some likable characters, and does feature it's fair share of more serious moments and losses as the war takes it's toll.

You do yourself a disservice if you don't play this game.


Tales of Vesperia (3)
Mario Kart Wii (2)
Ultimate Marvel vs Capcom 3 (2)
Hitman: Absolution (1)
Lost Planet (1)
The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess (1)
Sengoku Basara 3: Samurai Heroes (1)
Natural Selection 2 (1)
Words With Friends (1)
Risen 2 (1)

I am away to the cinema tonight, so I'll only be able to reveal one more today! That leaves the big finale to appear tomorrow. :}

[Ayen]

Haven't played The Last of Us, but it's on my Christmas wish list!

Likewise, my friend. Likewise.

Edit: @Nomination, never heard of it.

[Loony BoB]

Ooh, dark horse. I played the demo for this but couldn't get into it. I prefer my strategy from a top down view.

[Pete for President]

Well deserved spot on the list, although I would have liked the game to have a little more consequences especially when a squad member goes down. The save and load options made it a little too easy for my tastes. Loved the combat and the characters!

[Mo-Nercy]

Good game. I forgot all about it during nominations. The story hasn't really stayed with me but the characters, gameplay and graphics have. It's not a game I've been looking to replay at the moment, but I have never considered trading it in either.

[Bolivar]

I am completely blown away by the discovery that there is actually some justice in this world. Valkyria Chronicles is a better game than everything that's asppeared on this list thus far.

It was a gorgeous evolution of the SRPG formula and the story actually does get more dark and mature as the plot progresses, culminating in a pretty haunting sight in the finale. Replaying this gamea few months ago, I was taken aback at just how polished the presentation feels even today, especially on a high refresh rate HDTV. I also like that the enemy corpses don't disappear, even in the cutscene after the first fight, where Alicia resolves to bury them, establishing that killing isn't such a great thing, even in times of war. Anyone getting a PS3 for the first time and looking for which exclusives they should buy, this should be near the top of your list.

[Mirage]

You know what? It really was.

Yes, it was. You're just no true scifi fan if you don't think it's cool to park your vehicle and get outside on a barren planet with two massive binary stars in the sky.


https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1132077/images/MassEffect%202010-11-22%2023-45-40-52.jpg
See? It's awesome.

And Valkyria Chronicles is a great game. I am ashamed that I forgot to nominate it.

[Slothy]

And Valkyria Chronicles is a great game. I am ashamed that I forgot to nominate it.

It would have been first if you had then.

[Spuuky]

What a good game. I'm pretty surprised it got this many nominations, but I certainly can't complain. If I was voting for just "real" console games (no PC or handheld allowed) I'd probably have picked this as the single best game of the last generation.


Well deserved spot on the list, although I would have liked the game to have a little more consequences especially when a squad member goes down. The save and load options made it a little too easy for my tastes. Loved the combat and the characters!Just play with the discipline to not reload whenever something goes wrong. Just because virtually every game and literally every emulated game can be save-scummed to drastically reduce difficulty doesn't mean you have to do it. The only reason I "save" in games at all is in case my system crashes, or I encounter a bug, or the power goes out, or I need to quit and do something else. Never because I just don't like the outcome of what has transpired. It leads to some interesting experiences in games with a lot of consequence and choice.

[Scotty_ffgamer]

I think the real shock of this whole Top Games thing is that Words with Friends received a vote.

Anyways, I'm glad to see that a game I voted for made it this high up on the Top Games list. Valkyria Chronicles is fantastic.

[Slothy]

Yeah, I don't really get voting for Scrabble.

[Spuuky]

Yeah, I don't really get voting for Scrabble.Scrabble with bad dictionaries and excessively invasive advertising, you mean.

[Pike]

I would, in all seriousness, consider nominating Angry Birds. Or maybe Angry Birds Space.

I don't even give a shit how casual that makes me. Those games are fun.

[Slothy]

Angry Birds is fun. Space is definitely the more interesting take on it, though I think the formula has worn thin now. At least they tried other things with that Bad Pigs or whatever it was.

And anyone who says Pike is a dirty casual gamer will have to deal with me.

[Hollycat]

Angry Birds is fun. Space is definitely the more interesting take on it, though I think the formula has worn thin now. At least they tried other things with that Bad Pigs or whatever it was.

And anyone who says Pike is a dirty casual gamer will have to deal with me.
You are a dirty casual gamer. Pike is a dirty casual robot pony. Big difference.

[Del Murder]

I only played VC recently but found it very enjoyable. It was a little slow to get going, but the story was very heartfelt and I've never played a SRPG with that kind of gameplay. I think there were better games to have come out but VC was certainly a unique and memorable experience.

[Shauna]

The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim
2011 – PC, PS3, Xbox 360
9 Nominations
http://i.imgur.com/H84AK5q.jpg


Skyrim beckons you to explore its land. At its visual core, it is a game of breath-taking moments: From the dragon assault right at the beginning of the game, to seeing the aurora in the night sky. Even things such as a simple waterfall or a snowstorm while climbing a mountain, look sublime.

It's land where you choose your own adventure. Sure, there is the main storyline which is a good 20-30 hours’ worth of content in itself, but the main pleasure comes from simply exploring. You might stumble into a cave that turns out to be a hideout for a bunch of rogue mages. You might choose to embark on evil missions of lies, murder and everything in between, for the gruesome Daedric masterminds. If you're a Twilight fan you could even simply just become a werewolf and go on a spree of terrifying rampage around the towns and villages you may have once called home. Every day is simply a new adventure in Skyrim and with the sheer wealth of things to do, pretty much from the word go, mean you can easily clock up 100s of hours of gameplay.

During those 100s of hours you'll probably become far too attached to some of the companions in the game. Admittedly their combat AI is pretty bad at the best of times, with traps and doorways usually stumping them at the best of times, but this simply adds to their charm. There was one moment in particular where I had grown far too attached to a loyal canine companion, that when they met their untimely demise courtesy of getting stuck underneath a spike trap - I was so overcome with guilt and sadness that I actually reloaded my save and let the faithful mutt retire to a life of excess at the hands of ex-battle warriors turned house maids.

That's the overall beauty of Skyrim really; it's a game that you can make your own: From the character customisation, to trade skill progressions, and even treading the line between good and evil. Everyone's experience will be their own.

Some will argue that Skyrim isn't the best of the best when it comes to The Elder Scrolls series, but for a game that introduced many to the series itself this past console generation - this was about a good a welcoming fanfare as anyone could've hoped for.

Minecraft (3)
God of War III (2)
999: 9 Hours, 9 Persons, 9 Doors (2)
Star Wars: The Force Unleashed (1)
King's Bounty (1)
Game Dev Tycoon (1)
Metal Gear Rising: Revengeance (1)
Assassin's Creed: Revelations (1)
Fable 2 (1)

So this is it, the final one is yet to come. When I wake up tomorrow I'll post it up, so get your predictions in now! :p

[Del Murder]

Uncharted 2. No question. A worthy winner as well.

Never played Skyrim, probably never will. Not my playstyle. For all the people who 'don't really like it' it sure is popular!

[Pike]

Re: Skyrim: Wow, really? I honestly didn't expect that. Can't say I nominated it but my inner TES lore-monkey is happy.

[Loony BoB]

Damned worthy winner if it's Uncharted 2, hell yeah. If it's not, wtf. But pretty confident.

[Spuuky]

Minecraft got 3 votes, eh? Anyway, as I said, massive AAA bias. Not that Skyrim isn't a good game, but that's pretty amazing. I'd give it an 8/10 (a real 8/10, not a game review 8/10).

[Pike]

While I enjoy Minecraft and would not dispute its position were it on this list, on a personal level there are a lot of recent indie games which I enjoyed more.

Awesomenauts
Binding of Issac
Frozen Synapse
FTL
Game Dev Tycoon
Kerbal Space Program
Monaco
Waking Mars

to name a few off the top of my head which I enjoyed more than Minecraft.

[Spuuky]

Too bad that someone with such normally good taste could like Frozen Synapse so much. I hated that game.

[Pike]

Well, to tell the truth I didn't put as much time into Frozen Synapse as I did into the other titles on my list so its position there is kind of tenuous, but I did enjoy it.

[Dr Unne]

http://cdn2.planetminecraft.com/files/resource_media/screenshot/1303/quixotic-8390-47367_4637714_lrg.jpg

[Hollycat]

I'm shocked that Minecraft is out.

Skyrim was pretty dang awesome though.

[Aulayna]

The War Z has totally got this, hands down.

[Ayen]

I can't remember if I nominated this or not. Too lazy to go back and look.

[Bolivar]

When Skyrim came out it was insane, I think it swept a lot of awards that year. But a year or two later, the big phrase I hear about it is "as wide as an ocean and as deep as a puddle." I have 33 hours on it so far and I can't really call it either way. I only got it a few months ago and I've had a lot of other games to play, especially now with new consoles. Morrowind and Oblivion hooked me much deeper but I can't say whether it was because I just had less to play at the time. But when I first started the game, it was really insane to see how far the series had come.

I primarily nominated it over Oblivion because I figured it was the one in the series that everyone would vote for. I did the same for Call of Duty 4 but apparently it didn't make it on here?

[Slothy]

Minecraft got 3 votes, eh? Anyway, as I said, massive AAA bias.

Wasn't a AAA bias that kept me from voting for it. I haven't actually played it, and games like it usually bore the crap out of me anyway so I really have no interest in going out of my way to play it. If I want to build stuff with blocks I'll break out my damn Lego.

[Spuuky]

Wasn't a AAA bias that kept me from voting for it. I haven't actually played it, and games like it usually bore the crap out of me anyway so I really have no interest in going out of my way to play it. If I want to build stuff with blocks I'll break out my damn Lego.It isn't bias from any individual member, it is a somewhat unavoidable collective bias based on the method of selection.

Minecraft is like Lego except much cheaper and all your friends can do it with you and you never run out of pieces and it doesn't take up your entire room and the Lego plays with you, too. I'm not saying you should play it (you may very well find it boring) but I don't like the analogy much.

I could say "if I liked running and jumping, I'd pull out my track shoes" but that would obviously be silly.

[Slothy]

That would be silly since running and jumping in the real world isn't really the same thing, while playing with blocks in a game like Minecraft is almost exactly the same thing, just with infinite pieces and less variety in the pieces. I won't deny some people have made some really cool stuff in Minecraft, but I have no interest in putting any effort into that sort of game. The only reason Lego even interests me is for the tactile aspect of taking the pieces and building something I can physically interact with. If I wanted to build stuff in a game I'd probably take up 3D modeling or building levels in games I like. Minecraft just doesn't have much appeal to me.

[Spuuky]

Oh, I forgot that you can also delve into the Lego world and explore it in the game.

[Madame Adequate]

Too bad that someone with such normally good taste could like Frozen Synapse so much. I hated that game.

How can you possibly think Frozen Synapse is bad? :Oo: It's an amazing game.

[Aulayna]

Honestly, Minecraft wasn't something I saw the appeal in until I finally caved and tried it out.

[Shauna]

And so we have it, Eyes on. The number one game from this generation as voted by you.

What game could have beaten out all the previous?

Winner of over 200 Game of the Year awards in 2009

The most critically acclaimed game of 2009…

The number one game of generation seven is…















Uncharted 2: Among Thieves
2009 – PS3
10 Nominations
http://i.imgur.com/YkaND5P.jpg


Uncharted 2 swept nearly every Game of the Year award in 2009. Personally, I was sceptical that a Western action game could really be that good, but it was. From the opening museum heist in Istanbul, to the final escape from the collapsing ruins of Shangri-La, the game was filled with heart-pounding moments from start to finish. It complemented its breath-taking cinematics with unprecedented interactivity, with some players failing its gameplay segments because they didn't expect to still have control of Drake. Not only was the game gorgeous to look at it, it also had some of the most fluid and satisfying combat in an action game to date.

Uncharted 2 improved on the formula of the first game, and unlike the third game, was paced just right, and didn't jar the player with too many transitions to other parts of the world.

With its superb polish, endearing cast, and unforgettable set pieces, Uncharted 2 is not just emblematic of the seventh generation, it was also a major turning point, when Sony slimmed down the PlayStation 3, cut its price, and released a classic that all gamers could rally around. Naughty Dog started something great, and it resulted in the quintessential action game of the generation.




And there we have it folks, the number one game. Happy? Think another game was cheated out of the title (well, except from Mirror's Edge, we all know that one was forgotten)?

When I get back from my team dinner out, I'll post up a full list of all the games nominated for you all. :)

[Loony BoB]

Woohoo! :D Happy enough with that.

[Ayen]

Never played so I'm indifferent.

Only thing that bugs me about the list is Final Fantasy XIII being mentioned in the same breath as Mass Effect 2.

[Psychotic]

Never played any Unchartered game, truth be told. However it is a damn shame Minecraft didn't do better, as one of the people who voted for it!

[Gamblet]

I was the only one who voted for Assassin's Creed: Revelations? :roll2

[Jiro]

Interesting list. Super pleased to see Valkyria Chronicles there. What an ace game.

[Hollycat]

I'm not surprised it's on the list, it was a very popular game. I didn't really enjoy the Uncharted games much, but obviously you guys thought it was terrific.

[Bolivar]

I nominated all top 3 games! I gotta say, guys, I feel vindicated!

I don't know if I would say Uncharted 2 is the best game of the generation but obviously its a game that a lot of people agree is amazing and that's how you win on a vote like this. Only thing I would add to the write up is that the multiplayer and coop were crazy fun.

[Loony BoB]

Yeah, I agree. Possibly the most underrated multiplayer ever. I don't get why there aren't more online multiplayer PvP shooters where you can hang from ledges, climb random walls, do stealth kills to those above/below you, etc. A very 3D experience compared to the likes of Halo 3.

[Gamblet]

I don't get why there aren't more online multiplayer PvP shooters where you can hang from ledges, climb random walls, do stealth kills to those above/below you, etc.

Gunz: The Duel... kinda.

[Scotty_ffgamer]

Uncharted 2 multiplayer is fun. Does it still exist, or is the multiplayer only done through Uncharted 3 now? I guess it doesn't matter for me as I lent my copy of Uncharted 2 to a friend 2 or 3 years ago and I doubt I'll see it again.

I expected to see this game on top, but it isn't the top game of the generation for me. It's definitely a fun and well crafted experience for what it is - the video game equivalent of a fun summer action flick. That's not to say it doesn't deserve the praise it gets; it just isn't the top game for me personally. I did kind of hope something else would get the top game spot just to surprise me though.

[Shauna]

I think it's important to remember that all 208 games nominated are "Top Games" (except Resident Evil 6, what is the deal with that ;) ), these ones just got the most nominations which is quite a feat, tbh! For 10/48 members to nominate a single game out of the thousands that have been released over the past 8 years is something to celebrate.

Ten nominations or one nomination, each of the games that have been mentioned have made an impact on someone in this forum, and if I had the time and the patience for it, I would have went the whole hog and made sure each of them got a spot in the limelight. Sadly, I don't on both parts and this is what you all get. xD

We should just be happy that there have been so many great games released recently(ish). :D

Especially Mirror's Edge.

(Wow this was more lame than what I had originally started out saying)

[Scotty_ffgamer]

Mirror's Edge: Top Game of Every Generation.

I can't comment on Resident Evil 6, but I'm sure whoever voted for that should be ashamed of themselves. Pretty much all the games mentioned were great, and I look forward to possibly someday checking out some of the games mentioned that I have yet to play.

[Shauna]

As promised, all the nominated games. In alphabetical order.

1 ~ 1 vs 100
1 ~ 2nd Super Robot Wars: Original Generations
1 ~ 3D Dot Game Heroes
2 ~ 999: 9 Hours, 9 Persons, 9 Doors
1 ~ Aion
3 ~ Amnesia: The Dark Descent
1 ~ Analogue: A Hate Story
1 ~ Apollo Justice: Ace Attorney
2 ~ Assassin's Creed
7 ~ Assassin's Creed 2
1 ~ Assassin's Creed IV: Black Flag
2 ~ Assassin's Creed: Brotherhood
1 ~ Assassin's Creed: Revelations
1 ~ Atelier Rorona: The Alchemist of Arland
1 ~ Batman Arkham City
2 ~ Batman: Arkham Asylum
1 ~ Batman: Arkham City
4 ~ Bayonetta
1 ~ Beyond Good and Evil HD
1 ~ Beyond: Two Souls
2 ~ Bioshock
1 ~ Bioshock 2
2 ~ Bioshock Infinite
1 ~ Bit Trip Runner
2 ~ BlazBlue Continuum Shift Extend
1 ~ Borderlands
1 ~ Borderlands 2
2 ~ Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare
1 ~ Call of Duty: Black Ops 2
1 ~ Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 3
1 ~ Call of Duty: World at War
1 ~ Candies
1 ~ Castle Crashers
1 ~ Castlevania: Order of Ecclesia
3 ~ Catherine
3 ~ Civilization IV
1 ~ Civilization V
3 ~ Crusader Kings II
7 ~ Dark Souls
2 ~ Darkest Hour
1 ~ Darksiders
2 ~ Darksiders II
1 ~ Dead Rising
3 ~ Dead Space
7 ~ Demons Souls
3 ~ Deus Ex: Human Revolution
2 ~ Diablo III
1 ~ Distant Worlds
2 ~ DotA 2
2 ~ Dragon Age: Origins
1 ~ Dragon Quest Heroes: Rocket Slime
1 ~ Dragon's Crown
2 ~ Dreamfall: The Longest Journey
3 ~ Dwarf Fortress
1 ~ Dynasty Warriors 8
1 ~ Epic Mickey
1 ~ Eternal Sonata
1 ~ Etrian Odyssey
1 ~ Europa Universalis III
2 ~ Europa Universalis IV
1 ~ Fable 2
2 ~ Fallout 3
5 ~ Fallout: New Vegas
2 ~ Far Cry 3
1 ~ FEAR
1 ~ FEAR 2
1 ~ FIFA 12
2 ~ Final Fantasy III DS
1 ~ Final Fantasy IV Complete
1 ~ Final Fantasy Tactics A2
1 ~ Final Fantasy Tactics: War of the Lions
5 ~ Final Fantasy VII: Crisis Core
6 ~ Final Fantasy XIII
4 ~ Final Fantasy XIII-2
2 ~ Final Fantasy XIV: A Realm Reborn
2 ~ Final Fantasy: Dissidia
1 ~ Final Fantasy: Dissidia 012
1 ~ Football Manager 2012
1 ~ Frog Fractions
2 ~ Galactic Civilizations II
1 ~ Game Dev Tycoon
1 ~ Gears of War 2
2 ~ God of War III
1 ~ Gran Turismo 5
2 ~ Grand Theft Auto IV
6 ~ Grand Theft Auto V
2 ~ Guild Wars 2
1 ~ Gunpoint
2 ~ Halo 3
1 ~ Halo Reach
1 ~ Hatoful Boyfriend
1 ~ HAWX
1 ~ Hearts of Iron II
3 ~ Heavy Rain
1 ~ Hitman: Absolution
1 ~ House of the Dead: Overkill
1 ~ Infamous
2 ~ Infamous 2
1 ~ Injustice: Gods Among Us
5 ~ Journey
1 ~ Just Cause 2
1 ~ Kameo: Elements of Power
1 ~ Killzone 3
6 ~ Kingdom Hearts: Birth By Sleep
1 ~ King's Bounty
2 ~ Kirby's Epic Yarn
2 ~ League of Legends
2 ~ Left 4 Dead 2
1 ~ LEGO: Lord of the Rings
2 ~ Little Big Planet
1 ~ Lollipop Chainsaw
2 ~ Lost Odyssey
1 ~ Lost Planet
4 ~ LoZ: Skyward Sword
1 ~ LoZ: Twilight Princess
1 ~ Luminous Arc 2
1 ~ Mafia II
1 ~ Magical Drop V
1 ~ Mario & Luigi: Partners in Time
2 ~ Mario Kart Wii
1 ~ Mario Party 8
7 ~ Mass Effect
6 ~ Mass Effect 2
3 ~ Mass Effect 3
1 ~ Metal Gear Rising: Revengenace
3 ~ Metal Gear Solid 4
1 ~ Meteos
1 ~ Metroid Prime 3: Corruption
1 ~ Metroid Prime Trilogy
3 ~ Minecraft
4 ~ Mirror's Edge
1 ~ Modnation Racers
1 ~ Monaco
1 ~ Muramasa: The Demon Blade
1 ~ Natural Selection 2
1 ~ New Super Mario Bros Wii
2 ~ Ni No Kuni
1 ~ Nier
1 ~ Nintendogs
2 ~ Okami HD
1 ~ Osu! Tatakae! Ouendan!
1 ~ Path of Exile
2 ~ Persona 3 Portable
2 ~ Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney
2 ~ Plants Vs Zombies
1 ~ Pokemon Heart Gold
1 ~ Pokemon Soul Silver
7 ~ Portal
3 ~ Portal 2
2 ~ Professor Layton and the Curious Village
1 ~ Protect Me Knight
1 ~ Radiant Historia
1 ~ Ratchet and Clank: Tools of Destruction
1 ~ Rayman Origins
1 ~ Record of Agarest War
6 ~ Red Dead Redemption
2 ~ Resident Evil 5
1 ~ Resident Evil 6
1 ~ Resonance of Fate
1 ~ Risen 2
1 ~ Rock Band
1 ~ Saints Row 2
1 ~ Scribblenauts
1 ~ Sengoku Basara 3: Samurai Heroes
1 ~ Shadow of the Colossus HD
2 ~ Sleeping Dogs
1 ~ SMT: Devil Survivor
1 ~ Sonic & Sega All-Stars Racing Transformed
1 ~ Soul Calibur 4
2 ~ Spelunky
1 ~ STALKER: Shadow of Chernobyl
1 ~ Star Wars: The Force Unleashed
2 ~ StarCraft II: Wings of Liberty
1 ~ Street Fighter IV
4 ~ Super Mario Galaxy
1 ~ Super Mario Galaxy 2
1 ~ Super Meat Boy
2 ~ Super Smash Bros Brawl
1 ~ Tactics Ogre: Let Us Cling Together
3 ~ Tales of Vesperia
3 ~ Tales of Xillia
1 ~ Tatsunoko vs Capcom: Cross Generation of Heroes
2 ~ Team Fortress 2
1 ~ Tekken 6
2 ~ Tekken Tag Tournament 2
9 ~ TES V: Skyrim
8 ~ The Last Of Us
1 ~ The Last Remnant
1 ~ The Last Story
5 ~ The Walking Dead
1 ~ The Witcher 2: Assassins of Kingd
2 ~ The World Ends With You
1 ~ Titan Quest
4 ~ Tomb Raider
1 ~ Tribes Ascend
2 ~ Ultimate Marvel vs Capcom 3
10 ~ Uncharted 2: Among Thieves
4 ~ Uncharted 3: Drake's Deception
4 ~ Uncharted: Drake's Fortune
9 ~ Valkyria Chronicles
1 ~ Vanquish
3 ~ Victoria II
1 ~ Warrior's Orochi 2
1 ~ Wii Sports
1 ~ Words With Friends
1 ~ World of Warcraft
5 ~ XCom: Enemy Unknown
5 ~ Xenoblade Chronicles

[Madame Adequate]

>No Oblivion

GET FUCKIN' IN :hyper:

[Scotty_ffgamer]

I'm glad to see Candies on there.

[Gamblet]

>No Oblivion

GET smurfIN' IN :hyper:

The game is not worthy enough.

[Pike]

Shauna, I just wanted to thank you for running this whole event. It was fun and I enjoyed all the bantering in the thread :)

[Slothy]

Indeed Pike. We should do this for other generations down the line. Because there can never be enough debate on this forum. :exdee:

[Scotty_ffgamer]

EoFF's Top Games of the Past: Pong Consoles.

EoFF's Top Games of the Past: Tiger Electronic Games.

The options are endless.

[Shauna]

Not a problem! I enjoyed running it! I will see if I can improve the formula for when I do something like this again. Maybe going back through the generations. I am especially looking forward to Console Generation One (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_video_game_consoles_%28first_generation%29#Home_Systems)! I know what my favourite games would be! :excited:

I have to thank everyone who put forward games! Without that this would have been a disaster. Shame on you if you didn't nominate. ;) But yeah, this event was pretty much nothing without the lot of you.

[Del Murder]

Horray for Uncharted 2 and Shauna!

[Jiro]

Hooray for Shauna indeed!

[Loony BoB]

Yeah, this thread was awesome fun. :up: Thanks to you, Shauna!

[Pheesh]

Only one other person voted for Bioshock: Infinite? That makes me sad.

Oh well, it was a really fun thread to read through except every one of spuuky and vivi22's posts. Thanks Shauna ^.^

[Scotty_ffgamer]

I would have voted Bioshock Infinite, but I hadn't played it yet by the time I sent in my votes. I think I bought and played through that game just a couple of days after I voted, haha.

Also, thanks a lot Shauna! This was fun!

[Slothy]

Oh well, it was a really fun thread to read through except every one of spuuky and vivi22's posts.

Jerk! :stare:

[Elskidor]

That was fun. I have not tried hardly any of them, but it gives me a list to start working through. Thanks Shauna!

[Spuuky]

Oh well, it was a really fun thread to read through except every one of spuuky and vivi22's posts.

Jerk! :stare:Let's be honest, no one really wants to read a post by an INTJ.

[Slothy]

...

Yeah, you've got a point there.

[Shauna]

Only one other person voted for Bioshock: Infinite? That makes me sad.

I found Bioshock to be much better than Infinite, and that only got one more vote. Bioshock got no love.

[Pike]

I just noticed that someone nominated Gunpoint.

Whoever you are: I like you.

[Slothy]

Gunpoint is a spectacular game.

[Forsaken Lover]

I realize this is a Final Fantasy forum but how the hell did XIII get so many votes while other, better JRPGs weren't even nominated once?

Like Star Ocean 4.

[Spuuky]

Because SO4 isn't even good. For god's sake, Enchanted Arms is a better 7th generation JRPG than SO4.

[Shauna]

I realize this is a Final Fantasy forum but how the hell did XIII get so many votes while other, better JRPGs weren't even nominated once?

Like Star Ocean 4.

If you believe that SO4 should have been nominated, maybe you should have done so! :p The only way games got on this list was to be nominated, so if it's not here... well, you can only blame yourself. ;)

[Madame Adequate]

I don't think SO4 belongs on this list and I say that as someone who likes SO4 a lot. xD

Enchanted Arms was not better though good God man.

[Shauna]

I thought Enchanted Arms was pretty interesting! That being said, I managed to play a whole hour of it before the disc crapped out and refused to load past a certain point. Great quality there. :shobon:

[Forsaken Lover]

Because SO4 isn't even good. For god's sake, Enchanted Arms is a better 7th generation JRPG than SO4.

Who's talking about Enchanted Arms? I was talking about FFXIII and Star Ocean 4 is definitely better than that. Infinitely better environments and dungeons, better soundtrack, better database (the Dictionary >>>>>>>> Datalog for explaining plot info) and overall I hated no one in the SO4 party as much as I hated Lightning.

Oh and oen more thing. The game is actually FUN. By Orphan's Cradle I never wanted to play FFXIII or its cursed sequels again whereas the Palace of Creation and its awesome final dungeon theme (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ZFKsybhalE) both made me feel like I had actually done something worthwhile by playing the game.





If you believe that SO4 should have been nominated, maybe you should have done so! :p The only way games got on this list was to be nominated, so if it's not here... well, you can only blame yourself. ;)

Well I just had enough faith in this board to think FFXIII wouldn't get six votes for being one of the best games of the generation.
More votes than NieR or Tales or Xenoblade and I thought people here loved those games.

If we were doing a thread for the best Games of the 5th Generation, would FFVIII outrank Xenogears?

[Ayen]

Six votes and tied with Mass Effect 2, Grand Theft Auto 5, one vote below Demon's Souls and two votes above Crisis Core.

Well played, XIII fans. Well played.

[Bolivar]

I don't think I nominated it but now I wish I did

[Shauna]

If you believe that SO4 should have been nominated, maybe you should have done so! :p The only way games got on this list was to be nominated, so if it's not here... well, you can only blame yourself. ;)

Well I just had enough faith in this board to think FFXIII wouldn't get six votes for being one of the best games of the generation.
More votes than NieR or Tales or Xenoblade and I thought people here loved those games.

Nier was seriously terrible, one of the worst things I have had the displeasure of playing (look at all these differing opinions! Games that I don't agree with got nominated. Oh well. xP). Both Tales of Xillia and Vesperia got 4 nominations each. Xenoblade made the list. The difference between a place on the Top 20 and not was one nomination. The rankings were differing by one nomination. More nominations to make a bigger gap would have been nice, but we got what we got. :p

Again, SO4 didn't make it because neither you nor anyone else nominated it. Simple as, you can only blame yourself for it not showing up at all. :}

[Scotty_ffgamer]

Nier is unpolished greatness :colbert: Also, it definitely would have been one of the first off of my list of nominations had I just procrastinated my list and wrote it a few days later.

[Shauna]

Nier was... addictive. I was compelled to play, not that I was enjoying it all that much. :3

[Scotty_ffgamer]

I can understand why people wouldn't like it. Sort of. I just love that if you enjoy the game, playing it a second time actually expands and changes the story quite a bit just because you can now understand the shades and hear what they are saying and thinking. It makes you feel like a terrible person. I also love the music.

[Ayen]

So far the only games I recognize mentioned for the last couple of posts was Enchanted Arms. I have that for the Xbox 360, played a bit and then I quit for some reason...

[Shauna]

I can see why people like Nier too! It just wasn't my cup of tea. xD I found it fairly dull, and although some things were pretty interesting, it just wasn't enough. Also the music was painfully repetitive at times. I did complete it to 100%, so I got... something out of it. Love-hate relationship.

I did really like Kaine as a character too! Although, she had dumb clothes, stupid corset-butt.

[Scotty_ffgamer]

I hate Kaine's clothes. I know they "explain" it sort of it, but it's still stupid. I'll give you that the music can be repetitive too. I still like it a lot. I didn't complete the game to 100% though. I played through it twice and then watched the 2 endings I didn't get yet online. I probably would have hated it if I tried to do 100% since the sidequests are painfully dull after a while. Also fishing sucks in that game and I refused to do that anymore than I have to.