#eoff Chat Mafia - Saturday January 4, 10AM PST

[Del Murder]

Many EoFFers have played or at least heard of mafia, the fun forum game of trying to figure out who the scumbags are among your fellow townspeople before they kill all of you. These games typically last about a week and involve a lot of deception and deduction, great fun for all.

The forum game of mafia is actually based on a live version of the game that is much more quickly paced and revolves more around gut instinct than deductive reasoning. It is difficult to have this type of game on the forums due to people being in all different timezones and the threads typically being full of long posts.

In an effort to try to bring the 'live' version of mafia to EoFF, I'm going to host a few mafia games in the #eoff chatroom. It could work or it could fail miserably. Either way it should be great fun.

If you love mafia and want to try it a different way, or if you've always wanted to see what the hype was about, join me in the #eoff chatroom on Saturday January 4 at 10:00 AM PST where I will host a few games. The setups will be very basic: goons, cops, doctors, and vanilla townspeople for the most part. I may throw one or two other basic roles in for funzies depending on how many join in.

Come and play or come and watch! See you there! :letsgo:

[Del Murder]

Here are some guides for those who don't know how to play:

Flash Introduction to Mafia (http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/610087) - A pretty good guide.
A Beginner's Guide to Mafia (http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Newbie_Guide)
Common Mafia Roles (http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Roles)

Anything on the mafiascum wiki is pretty good. :steiner:

[Shauna]

We have everything all sorted out on the chatroom side of things!

I will hopefully be around for some of it to help out with the technical side of the chatroom stuff if need be. :3 My plans for tomorrow are a bit unknown at this point.

[Denmark]

forum mafia is nowhere near the level of awesomeness of live (chat or IRL) mafia. If I think about it I'll play.

[Jessweeee♪]

I'm interested in playing but I also don't want to wake up before noon on my only day off this week. Decisions :(

[Hollycat]

If I'm around when it starts, I would love to play

[Scotty_ffgamer]

If I'm around online, I'll participate!

[Freya]

I'll try but I'll be at my parents so it may be phone chat mafia.

[Madonna]

Not available then, or at all Saturday, but I hope you guys make it a huge success; Mafia is fun, doing it chat should be fun, and anyone who has not played it should get in on this awesome action. I will try to be more available in the future because missing out makes me sad.

[Del Murder]

This happens soon! :ffvishock:

[Madonna]

Town lost the first game; second game underway.

[Freya]

OH I FORGOT

[Madonna]

Shame on you! The town has a hard lot in life and could use a player like yourself (or not, were you scum)!

[Pant Leg Eater from the Bad World]

Killed because I was different.

[Del Murder]

Shame on you! The town has a hard lot in life and could use a player like yourself (or not, were you scum)!
Yes, the town needed some veterans like Frekana to help them along. :freya: They lost both games!

We may play some more in an hour or so.

[Rantz]

This was a lot of fun! Let's do it more often!

[Hollycat]

We were able to deduce that Plef killed Rantz because Plef dines solely on Pants and nothing else.

[Freya]

Yeah I came in right as the last game was ending :(

[Del Murder]

Some more will start up soon! :eiko:

[escobert]

I'll probably be down for another game or two :D

[Pant Leg Eater from the Bad World]

We were able to deduce that Plef killed Rantz because Plef dines solely on Pants and nothing else.
And you were sooooo wrong!

[Hollycat]

We were able to deduce that Plef killed Rantz because Plef dines solely on Pants and nothing else.
And you were sooooo wrong!
I won, you didn't.
That makes me right.

[Freya]

You guys let me die cause you wanted a stupid no lynch. :colbert: I wont forget that.

[Hollycat]

You guys let me die cause you wanted a stupid no lynch. :colbert: I wont forget that.
I would have voted with you mon' cherie.

[Scotty_ffgamer]

Everyone except for Endless are traitors. And possibly Freya, but she was already dead when I was voted to die.

[Pant Leg Eater from the Bad World]

I never vote for anyone to die. Remember that. Remember. That.

[Pumpkin]

I won all of the mafias :3:

[noxious.sunshine]

Rantz voted to kill me.

And that was very sad.

It was a verreh fun game though!!

[Hollycat]

Noxy hired me for nighttime companionship.

4 times.

[Endless]

Tas and I set up a #werewolf room, and the game is bot operated, which means Del can now participate as a townie werewolf drunk villager.

The roles and commands are all found in this page here (http://wolfbot.epicquinn.net/).

[Del Murder]

Neato. Thanks for setting that up! Looks like a fun variant to the mafia game. :bro:

[Jiro]

spewing I missed this

[Citizen Bleys]

It's not like epicmafia, is it?

Because I tried epicmafia and it was a very bad experience.

[Endless]

It's not like epicmafia, is it?

Because I tried epicmafia and it was a very bad experience.

Dunno how epicmafia is, but the way I see it is as a fast-paced version of the game, which more or less matches the timing you would enforce if you were playing the game IRL (which to me is the best way to play it). With the bot settings, day lasts 5 minutes max (ends faster if the village agrees), night lasts 3 minutes max (ends faster if the wolves agreed on a jill and if the seer has checked someone), and the game starts with a night phase. The timing of votes is crucial, since a couple wolves can ninja-squeeze a lynch in the last seconds if they are good at keeping time (and conversely, ninja-voters are prime suspects).

At the moment I'm expanding the bot to add more roles from The Werewolves of Miller's Hollow. In the list below, 0-9 were the original bot's roles (the ones the bot currently running has), and in bold are the ones I've added.

# Villager : default role, tries to survive with the rest of the village
# 0: Seer: Can scrye at night to discover the identity of a villager
# 1: Wolf: Meets other wolves at night to eat a villager
# 2: Cursed: Seen as a wolf by the seer but as an innocent by the detective
# 3: Drunk villager: no power
# 4: Harlot: can visit someone at night and prevent their power
# 5: Traitor: appears as a villager, but sided with the wolves
# 6: Gunner: has a gun, may kill the wolves at night, may lose his gun upon death
# 7: Werecrow: sided with the wolves, can visit a player at night to spy on him
# 8: Guardian angel: each night, can protect one player from the wolves. May (will?) die if he protects a wolf. No effect on the little girl.
# 9: Detective: can check someone's true identity during the day, may reveal himself doing so.

# 10: Witch: tries to eliminate the wolves, has two potions:
life potion to save the werewolves target, death potion to kill someone during the night
# 11: Cupid: tries to kill the wolves ; at the beginning of the game, will choose two players and "marry" them
The two lovers' fate are linked: if one dies, so does the other. They know each other.
Their goal is to survive together. If they are on opposite side, their goal is to win against everyone.
# 12: Thief: will choose his role between the two that haven't been drawn.
# 13: Little girl: villager, can spy the wolves at night, but may be caught by the wolves doing so
# 14: Hunter: villager, revenge kills one player when he dies
# 15: Ancient: villager, he can survive the first wolf attack.
If he is lynched or killed by the hunter or witch, every villager loses their power
# 16: Shaman: tries to kill the wolves ; has a short time during the night to listen to the spirits
# 17: Village idiot: villager. If the village decides to lynch him, he will be spared at the last moment, but will lose his right to vote.
# 18: Scapegoat: villager. In case of a tie, he will be killed by default.
# 19: Pied piper: His goal is to win alone. He must charm every player alive, up to two each night.
# 20: White Wolf: His goal is to win the game alone. The other werewolves think he is a normal wolf, but every other night, he may kill one werewolf of his choice.
# 21: Crow: villager ; each night he may curse one player which will have two votes against him the next morning.
# 22: Wild kid: villager. At the beginning of the game, chooses a role model. If that player dies, the kid becomes a werewolf.
# 23: Angel: his goal is to be eliminated on the first turn of the game. If he does, the game ends and he wins.
# If he fails, he becomes a powerless villager
# 24: Wolf-father: his goal is to eliminate all the innocents (non-werewolves). At night convenes with the wolves to eliminate a player
Once per game, he can change the victim of the wolves into a wolf. The infected player keeps his power.
# 25: Big Bad Wolf: his goal is to kill the innocents (non wolves), each nights he convenes with the wolves.
Each night as long as no other wolf is dead, he may kill an additional victim
# 26: Sister: villager. She knows the identity of her sister, whom she can trust (and they can chat in the second night phase).

[Jiro]

epicmafia is built around day one roleclaiming and follow the cop so it kind of blows. I can't imagine EoFF ever playing such a terrible strategy.