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Pike
04-28-2014, 01:52 AM
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This game has a bunch of intros. First this one:

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And then this one:


Uriel Septim IV, Emperor of Tamriel, stand with Talin, leader of the Imperial Guards.

They have been summoned by Jagar Tharn, Battlemage of the Empire, on rumors of treachery...

The Emperor is betrayed...

And transported to a dimension of Tharn's choosing...

After months of preparation Jagar Tharn takes the throne...

Ria Silmane, once Tharn's apprentice, is captured before she can warn the Elder Council of the Imperial Battle Mage's treachery...

Manipulating the essence of magic, Tharn prepares to take the true Emperor's place as ruler of the known land...

The Imperial Wizard wastes no time in gathering his servants...

And turning them into twisted counterparts of the Emperors Guard...

:blahblah:

ARE YOU GUYS READY FOR THE CUTEST MAP OF TAMRIEL YOU'VE EVER SEEN FOLLOWED BY WAKING UP IN A DUNGEON? :hyper:

Mister Adequate
04-28-2014, 02:00 AM
HAPPENING

Ayen
04-28-2014, 03:45 AM
I see we're going old school.

I am in.

Loony BoB
04-28-2014, 07:45 PM
I look forward to this. :D

Psychotic
04-28-2014, 07:50 PM
Always the prisoner, never the prison guard.

Formalhaut
04-28-2014, 07:56 PM
Never seen the game before. I'd be interesting to see what it's like. I've only seen the more recent ones!

Pike
04-29-2014, 02:02 AM
Time to choose my class! I'm picking Warrior because I like smashing things in the head when I play TES.

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I'm going to be a Dunmer, aka Dark Elf Master Race, so I have to give myself a sort of Welsh elf name because that's just how the Dunmer roll.

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And I'm also going to be a male because HOT DUNMER BOYS.

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And now it's time! Time for the cutest little map of Tamriel you've ever seen :3:

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D'awww! :kaoclove:

And for the record, this is what it looks like today:

http://images.uesp.net/thumb/c/c3/TamrielMap.jpg/400px-TamrielMap.jpg

So it's actually not terribly far off.

Obviously we're picking Morrowind :aimsun:

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Anyways, they gave me a bunch of base points plus about 15 unallocated ones, which I mostly dumped into Strength. I also promptly made myself a ginger. Because all of the guys with gray hair looked like an anorexic Gandalf.

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Soon after some dead chick showed up and told me a bunch of stuff primarily about how there's a key to the north (or something) and then I have to go south and west to escape the dungeon (or something) Llendys was rather :gator: about the whole situation, because he's a Dunmer and as such really just wants to go back home so he can ride guars around and eat horses and stuff.

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Eventually Dead Chick ended the whole thing in true Princess Leia fashion by pointing out that I'm her only hope.

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And then... I am unceremoniously dumped in a dungeon. Facing the wall.

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It begins.

Flying Mullet
04-29-2014, 03:35 AM
Why doesn't Llendys smile?

Mister Adequate
04-29-2014, 05:40 AM
Dunmer have nothing to smile about.

Pike
04-29-2014, 11:36 AM
Dunmer have nothing to smile about.

This.

Their entire existence has been cursed by the gods. Dunmer do not smile.

Flying Mullet
04-29-2014, 03:57 PM
Then Llendys should do happy things.

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Loony BoB
04-29-2014, 04:03 PM
"The Great Llendys! You are our only hope!" :jess:

"...really? Really? The guy in a dungeon is your only hope? Oh man. You guys suck at hope." :erm:

"Wait, dungeon? ...What's your surname?" :shifty:

Ayen
04-29-2014, 04:04 PM
It's a mind smurf just thinking about how far this series have come since its first installment. I mean, damn.

Psychotic
04-29-2014, 09:50 PM
Those are some sweet tight leather pants.

Pike
04-29-2014, 10:17 PM
I turn around and am greeted with this cheery description! Thanks, Dungeon Master!

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I also discover a key. It takes poor Llendys about five minutes to figure out how to pick it up because I guess he's not the sharpest knife in the drawer...

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...but eventually he manages it!

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LET'S GET THIS BAD BOY OPEN!

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Llendys heads out into the unknown. It appears that someone has left a bunch of junk just lying around in the dungeon. What a shame! I'm sure no one will mind if I just, you know, borrow it.

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:aimsun:

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Now Llendys is one ballin' mer. Apparently he had a broadsword hanging around too, which no one thought to take from him when they tossed him in the dungeon.

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Totally ready to go attack spiders and whatever else is in starter dungeons. :smug:

I begin heading west as Princess :blahblah: Organa told me to do, and soon hear some horrifying zombie noises emanating from the walls. But it turns out it's only...

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RATS!!

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HAIRY JAPANESE BASTARDS!!

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And now I have Tuberculosis... :(

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Mister Adequate
04-29-2014, 10:20 PM
So not only did they toss you down here with a honkin' big sword in hand, they also left a key which is both the literal key to your freedom and made of ruby just lying right there in your cell.

I... I fear the Empire may need to invest some more in educating its dungeon builders and guards.

Psychotic
04-29-2014, 10:22 PM
At least it's not leprosy.

Pike
04-29-2014, 10:41 PM
After my little adventure with the rats I decided it was time to rest. This went well until, in typical Elder Scrolls fashion, I got a little popup box:

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As it turns out I was ambushed by two rats, fortunately they got demolished :smug:

I tried resting again and then got the same message, I turned around expecting to see another rat...

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...and instead saw a wizard who killed me so fast that I couldn't even take a screenshot http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a109/Pikestaff/smiley/stonk001_zps429d7327.gif

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http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a109/Pikestaff/smiley/negativeman-55f_zps12bc1597.png what did I do to deserve such a death

(at least I didn't have Tuberculosis anymore when I respawned :shobon: )

Mister Adequate
04-29-2014, 10:43 PM
That chick looks like she has inbred little flipper hands or something, but I think it's meant to be flowing pieces of her cloak billowing in the wind.

Flying Mullet
04-29-2014, 11:22 PM
A ruby key? You sure have rich jailers.

Pike
04-29-2014, 11:52 PM
I'm guessing those Imperials have all sorts of money lying around. Damn Cyrodiil bastards :argh:

Loony BoB
04-30-2014, 12:13 AM
THE ONLY HOPE

dead

ahhhh crap

Shauna
04-30-2014, 12:21 AM
...and instead saw a wizard who killed me so fast that I couldn't even take a screenshot http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a109/Pikestaff/smiley/stonk001_zps429d7327.gif

You don't have much luck in these Let's Plays...

Psychotic
04-30-2014, 12:35 AM
Pike is the Sean Bean of the LP world.

Pike
04-30-2014, 01:58 AM
Don't worry; I've respawned and tomorrow I'll give it another go :) (hopefully with less death?)

Mister Adequate
04-30-2014, 02:49 AM
Pike is the Sean Bean of the LP world.

Waiting on her Ed Stark CK2 LP.

Jiro
04-30-2014, 03:58 AM
wow that was quick gg folks

Pike
05-01-2014, 12:13 AM
I think this game is lying. It keeps saying I can rest when I cannot. :colbert:

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Not much later, because I am SMART, I fall into the water.

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And am attacked by a goblin whilst in the water.

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He almost kills me. That's my health in green. (Not sure why the colors are reversed from most TES games... :screwy: )

I manage to climb out and do him in. Then I turned around and... STUFF!!

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...which I cannot pick up, apparently. :(

I run around killing goblins and rats and trying to find someplace to rest and heal. I am unsuccessful in this endeavor, but at SOME POINT, something happened!:

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:hyper:

I get four skill points which I dump into Endurance in the hopes that it can help me live longer.

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I immediately saved afterwards, which turned out to be a prudent choice because about five seconds later this guy showed up:

http://images.uesp.net/1/16/ArenaLizardMan.gif

And kicked my poor little Dunmer face in. :shobon:

Mister Adequate
05-01-2014, 01:38 AM
So wait did stats in Arena work more sensibly than in Morrowind and Oblivion? :eyebrow: Great job Bethesda!

Formalhaut
05-01-2014, 01:59 AM
Do you actually ever get out of the dungeon Pike? Games back in the day had brutal beginning areas :p

Pike
05-01-2014, 07:12 PM
I wander around the dungeon for quite some time killing things.

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Lizard man dead :smug:

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Level three! :omgomg:

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At some point the above occurs in the middle of resting. My first thought was that I had DIED IN MY SLEEP http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a109/Pikestaff/smiley/stonk001_zps429d7327.gif but it turns out I was just having some sort of vision or something? Dead Chick, please.

After my dream, I continue exploring. I round a corner and...

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I'VE GOT PILES

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LOADS OF MONEY

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SORRY MATE, I DON'T TAKE CHECKS. JUST LOADS OF GEAR!

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Level four! :monocle:

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Oh HO! What is THIS? Is it... can it be...

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...OLDSCHOOL ANTI-PIRACY CHECKS!

Fortunately I looked up the price on UESP and away I went! Outside of the dungeon, and into the daylight...

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...or not.

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Seeing as there's a giant volcano in front of me, I'm guessing I'm somewhere in Morrowind. Llendys is home! :')

Pike
05-01-2014, 10:24 PM
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What is this? I've stumbled upon a town of some sort? :eek:

But everything appears to be closed! How dare these people go and... sleep! :argh:

I wander around for a while desperately trying to find an inn. And failing miserably.

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I did find this pretty building! Alas, it, too, is closed. :whimper:

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Oh, what's this?


"Sorry honey, I don't like dark elf boys much."

...bitch :colbert:

There are all manner of wolves, lizardmen, goblins, wizards, and so on wandering around the town at night like they own the place. On the upside they've dropped some phat lewt, and now I look like Aquaman.

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For real.

I keep stumbling across these mysterious ladies, though. I wonder what THEY'RE doing out so late at night? They'd best go in before they run across a wizard, or worse, catch cold! http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a109/Pikestaff/smiley/emot-ohdear_zps1e0d1059.png

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How rude!

Eventually, though, one of them directs me to an inn, and I succeed in getting a good night's sleep on what appears to be a bed made out of solid concrete.

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I wonder what adventures await me next!

Mister Adequate
05-01-2014, 10:27 PM
I genuinely thought the town was underground for a second, the complete absence of any sort of skybox at night is simply darling :kaoclove:

I guess if the streets are crawling with all kinds of asshole monsters it does make sense to close for the night, though? Maybe they should pay their taxes so the city can pay the guards to patrol, or better yet institute social programs that prevent disadvantaged lizardmen and goblins turning to lives of crime in the first place.

Loony BoB
05-02-2014, 04:19 PM
"Dark Elf? Ew. Sorry, I only whore out to respectable clientelle that walk around at night. So, lizardmen, werewolves, goblins, that sort of thing."

Pike
05-02-2014, 10:52 PM
I woke up the next morning, went outside, and was promptly greeted with the beautiful sight of... fog, because there is no skybox.

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Next up it was time to ask around for jobs, because I want to go kill things! http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a109/Pikestaff/smiley/scholar.gif

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Nope, nothin' at the church. Hi Preacher Man!

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JUST LOOK AT THIS BEAUTIFUL VIEW. LOOK AT THAT HI-RES FOG. I guess it could be ashes from Red Mountain maybe

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:eek: http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a109/Pikestaff/smiley/emot-ohdear_zps1e0d1059.png

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I dunno this sounds really complicated http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a109/Pikestaff/smiley/emot-ohdear_zps1e0d1059.png Sundas is tomorrow, after all! But Llendys doesn't care because he's a DUNMER DAMNIT :argh: Brazenly he hits accept.

What long and perilous journey awaits us on our way to this Howling Ship?? :(

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...not much of one, apparently, because the place he wants us to escort someone to is literally right next door.

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Llendys's face upon taking his reward:

http://media.giphy.com/media/xeXEpUVvAxCV2/giphy.gif

WELL, let's see about getting something a little more exciting, then, shall we?

Back outside we go.

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:jokey:

Okay, enough of that. Back to the grindstone.

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Look at this beefy guy :whoa: He's going to spend SEVEN FECKIN DAYS repairing my broadsword. Fortunately I'm rolling in dough :smug: allowing me to just buy a new one in the interim.

NOW LET'S GO DUNGEON DIVING OR SOMETHING :mwahaha:

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OKAY GUYS THIS IS IT, THIS TIME IT'S GONNA HAPPEN

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The Mages Guild. Okay. Got it.

...this is gonna be right next door again, isn't it?

...

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...

:stare:

And he has the NERVE to be in a building that is clearly marked for Azura, covered with moon and stars! :irked:

Next time there had better be some bloody dungeons to roam! :colbert:

Formalhaut
05-02-2014, 10:57 PM
Is there such a thing as a sky and clouds in Morrowind?

Pike
05-02-2014, 10:59 PM
Is there such a thing as a sky and clouds in Morrowind?

There are in some locations! Such as the Grazelands. It's really pretty there!

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Loony BoB
05-03-2014, 12:28 AM
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:jokey:

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Pike
05-03-2014, 01:48 AM
I decided that maybe it's time to look into the Main Quest. Dead Chick said I had to find Fang Lair, didn't she? I snagged someone and asked where that was.

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H... Hammerfell? But... but I'm in Morrowind! That's on the other side of the continent! :onoes:

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LOOK AT THIS trout

...fortunately fast travel exists! :holmes:

NEXT STOP: HAMMERFELL

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Where the men are men!

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And the women are, uh... huh.

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They just walk around like this. I'm not even kidding. I don't think there's a single fully-clothed woman in this town.

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WAIT! WAIT I'VE FOUND ONE!

She's the queen and I don't even think she's a proper Redguard :colbert: (if she was, she wouldn't be wearing anything, clearly :doublecolbert:) Breton National Party please go.

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:blahblah: TLDR, she wants me to go find a parchment before she tells me where Fang's Lair is.

Llendys' official response:

http://25.media.tumblr.com/cae23f52622e3a5ef28280a159edc0db/tumblr_miepd1N9RB1qchy9ro3_250.gif

DUNGEON TIME! :kakapo:

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FULL GRIMDARK (as an aside you guys aren't getting the full effect of this dungeon because it's filled with spooky zombie noises and mysterious opening doors and trout)

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I AM THE KING OF THE RATS

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I AM THE KING OF EXPERIENCE

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Llendys wanders around aimlessly for a while bashing things in before finding a key! :eek:

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Into the door where we always pay our debts.

Unfortunately there doesn't appear to be much behind the door, so after some more wandering around I head back to town to repair and buy more potions.

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Thanks WizardBro! :monkey:

Back into the dungeon. At some point Llendys hits level seven, which is pretty good.

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He battles a variety of things including some skeletons (who are a pain in the arse), zombie ghoul monsters (who are an even bigger pain in the arse and actually do me in a couple of times), and finally...

Is that... :eek:

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Got myself a parchment! :smug:

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Back to the Breton imposter.

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Fang Lair is way up in the corner of this province. Fortunately, we still have fast travel. Thank Azura! :shobon:

I'm gonna go head up to that town up there and then call it good for now...

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...

http://static.tumblr.com/dddbf2a74179cae4797c21d307892a23/apev3jq/Cjdmftnjc/tumblr_static_yakko_gif.gif

Pumpkin
05-03-2014, 08:48 AM
Well this seems like an... interesting game

theundeadhero
05-03-2014, 09:06 AM
The sellswords he hired died crossing the street? hahahahahahaahahaha

Loony BoB
05-03-2014, 10:13 AM
The sellswords he hired died crossing the street? hahahahahahaahahaha
Run over by a carriage. :(

Psychotic
05-03-2014, 05:00 PM
PET THE SNAKE

PET THE SNAKE!

Pike
05-05-2014, 02:56 AM
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:eek: !

What horrors could possibly await us inside! (It's a Dwemer ruin apparently but it looks nothing like one :shobon: )

...

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SKELETONS!

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LEVEL EIGHT!

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MORE SKELETONS!!

I scoured the entire first floor of this dungeon and found a buttload of skeletons and some loot (which conveniently respawns when you exit and re-enter the dungeon :holmes: ) There are mine shafts which head deep underground, but I haven't explored those yet! Perhaps that should be my next plan of action, however. :plotting:

Mister Adequate
05-05-2014, 02:57 AM
I GREET MY SKELETAL BRETHREN!

Psychotic
05-05-2014, 05:15 PM
I feel nostalgic looking at this. I've never played TES1, but I did play a similar early 3D dungeon crawler called Eye of the Beholder (ADVANCED DUNGEONS AND DRAGONS: Eye of the Beholder no less!) with skeletons and everything in my youth.

Flying Mullet
05-05-2014, 06:48 PM
The sellswords he hired died crossing the street? hahahahahahaahahaha
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Run over by a carriage. :(

Kalevala
05-06-2014, 12:47 AM
Skyboxes are overrated.

Pike
05-07-2014, 02:53 AM
Once more into the breach. This time we'll try jumping into these shafts.

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It's... kind of Minecrafty...

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And confusing...

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But I do seem to be getting somewhere! Look at all these unexplored areas on the map! :eek:

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Got ambushed by these spiders. They decided to paralyze me (which makes it so I can't attack :( )and also do quite a number on me in damage. I used about a million potions and managed to pull through alright :shobon: Feckin' lot of potions I had to use, though. look at me almost dead there.

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Level nine! :aimsun:

Continued spelunking around in the mine shafts to the tune of several 2spooky sound effects. Then I noticed a little red dot on the map...

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...and decided to go investigate.

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No not spiders http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a109/Pikestaff/smiley/emot-ohdear_zps1e0d1059.png

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:eek: !!!!!

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Mister Adequate
05-07-2014, 03:02 AM
BUT WHAT HAPPENS NEXT

Loony BoB
05-07-2014, 06:33 PM
http://img2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20060129165255/lost/images/c/c0/The_Hatch.jpg

Now you need dynamite.

...or a key, I suppose.

theundeadhero
05-07-2014, 07:56 PM
You found a dark portal.

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Pike
05-10-2014, 02:24 AM
I approach the door, ready to barge through it and see whatever is on the other side, but then...

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Oh god what http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a109/Pikestaff/smiley/emot-psyduck_zps6d3d0257.gif Why is the door talking to me? Why is it asking me a riddle! I never asked for any riddles!! What do I do http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a109/Pikestaff/smiley/emot-ohdear_zps1e0d1059.png I'm just going to press "2". That's a nice round number, right?

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Oh phew :shobon:

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It takes me roughly ten minutes to pick up the key. You cannot make your character look down (I suppose Llendys has some sort of neck condition), so lining up your cursor with this thing while still being in range is an exercise is patience.

On through the door I go!

A ladder!?!? :eek:

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Which leads me to some sort of room, which I begin to cautiously explore...

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and then...

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OH DEAR AZURA

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IT'S SOME SORT OF LAVA FILLED DEATH PIT! http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a109/Pikestaff/smiley/stonk001_zps429d7327.gif

Mister Adequate
05-10-2014, 02:33 AM
Oh boy this looks like a super fun place! :hyper:

Psychotic
05-10-2014, 02:09 PM
It's like you're playing ghetto Minecraft!

Jiro
05-13-2014, 11:04 AM
Not being able to look down seems rather painful :(

Loony BoB
05-13-2014, 01:32 PM
It's like you're playing ghetto Minecraft!
They should totally release this game for Android. Why don't they release old games like this for Android? They're all way better than a huge amount of the options we have to pick from. I suppose it's down to figuring out how to get it working with a touchscreen...

theundeadhero
05-29-2014, 10:51 PM
Halp! The floor is lava but I'm just not dying. I'm stuck here.

Loony BoB
05-29-2014, 11:14 PM
I miss this LP alreeeeeaady.

Flying Mullet
05-29-2014, 11:53 PM
I miss this LP alreeeeeaady.
Yes!

Pike
05-31-2014, 05:04 PM
I'm sorry :( I'm gonna be busy for a few weeks. After I move I want to pick it up again.

theundeadhero
06-04-2014, 12:39 AM
Take your time :)

Pike
06-10-2014, 02:03 AM
BEHOLD THE TRIUMPHANT RETURN :mwahaha: It's been a month but I am back!

When we last left Llendys, we were in 2spooky Minecraft dungeon world http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a109/Pikestaff/smiley/emot-ohdear_zps1e0d1059.png

Upon wandering around for a while (and learning that you die very quickly when you fall into lava), I find a door!

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...which promptly starts to talk to me!

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Now there is something I feel you all need to be aware of: I have hardly gotten any sleep for the last 48 hours. I just moved and my cat is going insane and keeping me up all night. So upon seeing this question I sort of just stared at it blankly for a few moments before reading it to Mister Adequate, who promptly told me the answer within seconds :redface: It's "gloves", by the way!

Into the door I go! And am promptly one-shotted, by... well, I don't know what, actually.

Upon respawning I wandered inside again! And was killed, again!

The third try was the charm, however - turns out this room is guarded by Hell Hounds and they take off a good chunk of your HP http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a109/Pikestaff/smiley/stonk001_zps429d7327.gif

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You can see I barely escaped with my ashen gray skin in one piece :shobon:

I promptly healed, saved, killed another Hell Hound, and pressed onward... and, oooh, what is this?? :eek:

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Is... is that...?

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It is! It's part one of the eight pieces I need to find to save Tamriel! http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a109/Pikestaff/smiley/smileydance.gif

So I take my prize and look around. Okay guys! I'm ready to leave the dungeon now! Where's my exit door?

...guys?

Guys?

Huh, that's funny, that's just the entrance...

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Wait... you... you guys mean I have to go all the way back through the dungeon? To the beginning? But... but I forgot how to even get there! http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a109/Pikestaff/smiley/emot-gonk_zpsecd91b56.gif :stare:

Okay... well... I guess I'd better get to it then...

I decide to take a quick rest first for the long journey back up to the surface, so I send Llendys to the corner for a nap. Naps are uneventful, right?

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http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a109/Pikestaff/smiley/magical001_zpscb2ec6fc.png

I wake up from this vision and it turns out that Jagar Tharn himself has sent a mage after me! Unfortunately for him this so-called assassin was no match for me :smug: After all, you know what they say...

http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a109/Pikestaff/internet/Sansa-Slaps-Robin_zpse845fdf9.gif?t=1402358561

To be quite honest!

To Be Continued...

Jiro
06-10-2014, 02:06 PM
That gif is friggin' great. I expect you to kick some ass.

Loony BoB
06-10-2014, 09:09 PM
It's back! It's alive! Yesssssssssssssssssssssss!

Formalhaut
06-10-2014, 09:33 PM
Yay! I missed this.

And that GIF. Haha! Brilliant.

Flying Mullet
06-11-2014, 06:02 PM
Excellent update. I look forward to the July installment...

Pike
06-17-2014, 01:58 AM
Llendys has another dream! Let's see what it says...

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Such praise! :3: She goes on to inform me that Jagar Tharn probably thinks I am dead (joke's on him :joker:) and that the second staff piece's location is in some sort of ice fortress up north.

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(Let it go?)

Anyways, it's time to start bumbling around trying to work my way out of this dungeon. I get some loot! And apparently I am a human of some sort now, according to the graphic. THANKS OBAMA :nonono:

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After several, several long minutes of bumbling around, killing monsters, and dying due to weird invisible walls and the like... I REACH THE EXIT!

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Then it's time to go repair and sell a bunch of loot. (Someone remind me to pick up my magical healing ring later, it's gonna take the guy seven freaking in-game days to repair it and I know I'm going to forget.)

In the meantime I went to go pick up some healing potions but the Mages' Guild is mysteriously empty and devoid of all wizards and shopkeepers...

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Next stop is: Hmm, what location in the Elder Scrolls universe is up north and known for ice and snow? :plotting:

Mister Adequate
06-17-2014, 02:17 AM
PYANDONEA?

Loony BoB
06-17-2014, 02:26 PM
Dyrtrim! No, wait, that's not right.

Pike, don't forget about that magical healing ring.

Christmas
06-17-2014, 03:21 PM
Haha, Arena! This is retro!!! Awesome work Pike! :bigsmile:

Jiro
06-17-2014, 03:24 PM
Did all the mages get wiped out by some bullshit like they did in Bruma?

Pike
06-18-2014, 12:33 PM
(No updates for the next week; I am going on vacation! :jess: But you've all waited longer for prior updates of mine right? :shobon: )

theundeadhero
07-23-2014, 08:13 AM
Nope :)
But I've been waiting hours to eat a spicy chicken sammich and I think it's time.