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Forsaken Lover
05-03-2014, 01:38 AM
So apparently even the folks at Square forgot Ultimecia's goal. I've heard in Dissidia they say some crap about wanting to return to her childhood or to rule over an idealized world as a goddess.

BZZZZZZZZ! WRONG!

Rinoa: "...I should tell you this before I go. I was possessed out in space. There was a sorceress inside me. Ultimecia, a sorceress from the future. She's trying to achieve time compression. She's the only one who would be able to exist in such a world. She, and no other."

From Ultimecia herself:
"Time shall compress. All existence denied."

And if you scan her final form:
"Ultimecia, transformed to absorb all time and space. Absorbing all existence as we speak."

What is there to rule over when she's the only being in existence because she crushed everything and everyone else and slurped them down?

Sephiroth
05-03-2014, 02:56 AM
Not only is Dissidia as non-canon to Final Fantasy VIII as Kingdom Hearts is, with the exception of it having at least a bit of a canonical feeling, but Final Fantasy VIII itself already does not make any sense with the Time Compression. It is clear how she intends to do it. However it does not change the fact that it would never work being finished as the causality paradox that simply cannot happen will be prevented from happening because of an even higher causality paradox that also cannot happen letting nature simply not make it happen in the first place, no matter how "much she is able to survive it" as Ultimecia is also not all-powerful and bound to rules with which she relied on time and thus giving her a past she cannot influence because of the natural closed circuit. Her plan is also mentioned in Dissidia in her personal profile where her intention to combine time which only can be survived by her is repeated. Dissidia does not make anything worse than it is in canon because it was some non-sensical story which you have to look over with both eyes closed in they first place. In general the story of Ultimecia is not really expanded in Dissidia. And with it not being official in plot related details except some things like Kefka being 35 or already known stuff it is nothing to really think about. Generally spoken the story information is right as it is just told in an abstract form.

Jiro
05-05-2014, 02:57 PM
I suppose returning to an idealised childhood makes her a little more morally grey as opposed to straight up evil bitch.

Mercen-X
05-09-2014, 08:29 PM
Ultimecia has always been the lamest villain ever imagined and if I didn't care for the rest of the VIII characters, I would strike VIII as a whole from SE's record. As it is, I just ignore Ultimecia's existence as a freaky dive into Rinoa's subconscious as she's the one who first mentioned her. Supposedly Ultimecia was also in possession of Edea, but I think Edea had just gone all power mad. Yeah, that explains it.

Ayen
06-07-2014, 02:38 AM
Dissidia screwed a lot of things up from what I hear.

Wolf Kanno
06-09-2014, 07:11 AM
In Dissidia, Ultimecia basically says she's going to control all of space and time and makes a statement to Squall that she'll force him to worship her forever after she does so. Considering Time Compression is one of the most vague concepts in the series, I don't feel they have forgotten canon.

Psychotic
06-09-2014, 09:09 AM
I don't think I have any problems with them trying to improve the woefully abysmal TIME KOMPRESSION idea.

Ayen
06-09-2014, 05:53 PM
TIME KOMPRESSION

This sounds like a Mortal Kombat move.

Lone Wolf Leonhart
06-18-2014, 04:42 AM
You can't really mess up a story that isn't trying to be canon.

The way I look at this game is it's essentially a Super Smash Bros with your favorite FF characters. It has its own stand-alone story and it's a great way to visit some of your favorite FF characters.