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Wolf Kanno
06-01-2014, 11:31 PM
Anyone else notice this is the only game to feature Elves as another race cohabiting with Dwarves and Humans? So let's discuss how elves are assholes and got banned from being good guys for the rest of the series.

Ayen
06-03-2014, 10:37 AM
I never noticed. There were monster elves in latter titles?

Dat Matt
06-06-2014, 10:23 PM
There are vieras in later name. I assume they replaced the elves when they invented more races suited to their games.

Colonel Angus
06-06-2014, 10:35 PM
I don't remember Elves appearing in any other FF games after FFI. Dwarves got a lot of love in IV, but even they don't appear too often. As Mr. S. said, the Viera seem to have taken the place of Elves & I think the Seeq replaced the Dwarves.

I'd actually like to see a modernistic/futuristic FF game that includes these races.

Ayen
06-06-2014, 10:45 PM
*imagines an elf rocking out to his iPod*

I find this surprisingly appealing.

chionos
06-06-2014, 10:46 PM
They're certainly a bunch of douche-pricks in FFXI.

Spooniest
06-07-2014, 04:10 AM
What I want to know is why everything in Elfland is so grossly overpriced?! Seriously, 4000 gil for a Mythril Blade?

So many youthful hours misspent grinding for a Mythril Blade, to take out those damn Ogres.

theundeadhero
06-07-2014, 05:36 AM
It was originally called a silver sword and silver is expensive :shrug:

VeloZer0
06-07-2014, 08:13 AM
I'm not going to lie, the Silver/Mythril Sword kicks a lot of ass.

black orb
06-07-2014, 08:15 AM
>>> After they killed Link in FF1 all the elves became evil..:luca:

Ayen
06-07-2014, 08:25 PM
They're certainly a bunch of douche-pricks in FFXI.

When are elves not pricks?

chionos
06-07-2014, 09:18 PM
They're certainly a bunch of douche-pricks in FFXI.

When are elves not pricks?

touché

ScottNUMBERS
06-07-2014, 09:20 PM
They're certainly a bunch of douche-pricks in FFXI.
Ouch man :(

chionos
06-07-2014, 10:45 PM
They're certainly a bunch of douche-pricks in FFXI.
Ouch man :(

>_< sorry man. That's just the Galka in me talking. No offense. /hugs

Psychotic
06-08-2014, 01:32 PM
There's the Dark Elf in FFIV but he seems to be the only Elf in that world, light or dark.

Here lies Link.

Raistlin
06-08-2014, 03:45 PM
Elves are always pompous assholes. They deserve to be banned from the series.

They also just wouldn't fit in well with the more modern/futuristic look of more recent FF games.

CAST VOX
06-08-2014, 08:59 PM
Anyone else notice this is the only game to feature Elves as another race cohabiting with Dwarves and Humans? So let's discuss how elves are assholes and got banned from being good guys for the rest of the series.
It was because FF1 was a tribute to/rip-off of D&D. Hence the day-charge spell system, the elves and dwarves, the sahagin and mind-flayers, the Lich and Maralith, Tiamat and Bahamut, the monk class, the mythril and adamantite, etc.


It was originally called a silver sword and silver is expensive :shrug:
I could've sworn it was only changed to silver for the western releases.

Colonel Angus
06-08-2014, 09:32 PM
Anyone else notice this is the only game to feature Elves as another race cohabiting with Dwarves and Humans? So let's discuss how elves are assholes and got banned from being good guys for the rest of the series.
It was because FF1 was a tribute to/rip-off of D&D. Hence the day-charge spell system, the elves and dwarves, the sahagin and mind-flayers, the Lich and Maralith, Tiamat and Bahamut, the monk class, the mythril and adamantite, etc.


It was originally called a silver sword and silver is expensive :shrug:
I could've sworn it was only changed to silver for the western releases.
Don't forget the Eye or Phantom was originally called Beholder, which looked like the D&D Beholder. I don't remember if they HAD TO change it before releasing it in the US, or if they just decided to on their own to evade legal issues.

CAST VOX
06-09-2014, 01:33 AM
Don't forget the Eye or Phantom was originally called Beholder, which looked like the D&D Beholder. I don't remember if they HAD TO change it before releasing it in the US, or if they just decided to on their own to evade legal issues.
Wizards of the Coast is very serious about legal matters, so it's probably both.

theundeadhero
06-09-2014, 11:46 AM
Back then D&D was owned by TSR but I don't know how they felt about such things.

CAST VOX
06-10-2014, 05:18 AM
Back then D&D was owned by TSR but I don't know how they felt about such things.
They didn't mind anywhere near as much due to the fact that Gary was at the helm, and he loved fan made works.

Sephex
06-10-2014, 08:14 AM
If the sing they would be called ELVIS HAHAHAHHAHA

Okay seriously, I didn't really notice this until now. My guess is that whoever decided to draw from RPG tropes either didn't care a lot for Elves or simply didn't know enough about them to incorporate them in the FF games properly.

CAST VOX
06-10-2014, 08:52 AM
\Okay seriously, I didn't really notice this until now. My guess is that whoever decided to draw from RPG tropes either didn't care a lot for Elves or simply didn't know enough about them to incorporate them in the FF games properly.
Actually Elves being assholes is more true to their roots than the way Tolkien and most fantasy portray them. Elves aren't happy, singing, tree-huggers. Elves are the Fair Folk. They are invincible, immortal, magical beings on par with demigods. The word Eldritch (Used to describe Cthulhu and other disturbing monsters) actually means Elven. Elves aren't assholes, they're amoral spirits that prey upon all things in their forests, including humans.