Should Japan just ban Hollywood from anime?

[Ergroilnin]

I never saw a Hollywood movie stemming from anime that was at least partially decent, mostly it was shit like Avatar the last air bender, basically totally horrible movies when compared to their sources.

Personally I think that Hollywood simply doesn't understand anime and should never again make movies from anime series. I mean I usually don't even like Japan's movies from anime because for some reason they never really try to make characters to actually look like they did in anime, but at the very least the story is usually somewhat decent.

What do you think about this?

[Aulayna]

Because the entire Anime industry is owned exclusively by the Government of the country of Japan.

So ignoring all the logical shortfallings of this question:

No, they shouldn't ban Hollywood from Anime. The Avatar movie introduced loads of people to the Anime itself. The movies aren't made to appease to die-hard fans, they're made for a broader audience and some of that audience may in turn, end up checking out the source it was based off. This isn't a bad thing.

[Shauna]

Avatar isn't even Japanese man.

[Mo-Nercy]

Quite a few Hollywood films have borrowed bits of plot or drawn inspiration from anime with good results.
The Matrix -> Ghost in the Shell. Inception -> Paprika. Hunger Games -> Battle Royale.

Direct adaptations haven't faired as well, of course. Speed Racer was pretty average, Dragonball Evolution sucked. Maybe future attempts ought to put less emphasis on being kid-friendly. There are plenty of serious anime series and films that deserve to be adapted for a wider audience. Cowboy Bebop was supposed to have been in the works for a long time, but with Hollywood being all about marketability, I can see how kid's movies might be an easier sell than afro space cowboy.

But maybe all it'll need is just one good adaptation to get the ball rolling. Marvel Studios is on a massive high at the moment and it all started with Blade and X-Men.

[Ergroilnin]

Avatar isn't even Japanese man.

Never said it's Japanese, but I felt like that one was the one people could know most about. They could easily see it simply doesn't work in the hands of Hollywood.


Quite a few Hollywood films have borrowed bits of plot or drawn inspiration from anime with good results.
The Matrix -> Ghost in the Shell. Inception -> Paprika. Hunger Games -> Battle Royale.

But maybe all it'll need is just one good adaptation to get the ball rolling. Marvel Studios is on a massive high at the moment and it all started with Blade and X-Men.

I don't mind borrowing plot stuff from anime as long as they don't call it that way just for one or two things.

I do agree that marvel movies are decently done, if anime adaptations were done at least at the same level, I wouldn't really complain.

[Shauna]

Titling a thread "Should Japan ban Hollywood from anime?" and using Avatar: The Last Airbender as your example kind of implies that you consider it both anime and from Japan. xD Which it is neither. Yes, I am being ~that guy~

But, in the end, all adaptations tend to be rubbish. Blanket statement, whaaaaaaat. How many terrible video game adaptations have there been? That's right all of them. Book adaptations are often slated for being terrible compared to their source. Heck, a large proportion of comic book movies are bad. I enjoy some adaptations and not others. Some of them I enjoyed simply because they were terrible.

I don't think that this is a problem unique to anime adaptations, however I'm sure the cultural differences do not help.

[Jinx]

I just came here to pretty much say what Shauna did about Avatar!

[Christmas]

I think they will learn from mistakes eventually! :bigsmile:

[MJN SEIFER]

Not really. I think everyone has a right to do their own version of things - there will always be versions you like better than others, and ones you feel were bad, but it's just different versions to me.

I actually quite like seeing how they do these to be honest, even if I don't like the end result.

[Skyblade]

Why is this restricted to anime? Personally, I think we should ban Hollywood from making adaptations to pretty much anything. You'd rather we just get more Twilight flicks? More Scooby-Doo movies? More 50 Shades of Grey? We can go on. There are some good ones, but not nearly enough, especially when we're talking about mainstream Hollywood and not merely the film industry as a whole.

[Ayen]

No. Better idea: the people who own the rights should be more careful who they sell them to.

[Parker]

ban anime

[Shlup]

Bad remakes of things that are good doesn't make the good things not exist.

[Parker]

Yea this is a natural by-product of liking a thing. When people realise a thing has a lot of people who like it they are going to cash in. This is just what happens. Enjoy the original thing and maybe write a bitching comment on IMDB about how the unoriginal thimg is bad and then just let it go.

[Christmas]

Banning anime might result in the loss of your hentai porn too. :chocobo:

[Parker]

lets get hollywood into anime

[noxious.sunshine]

The author of The Hunger Games claims she had never even heard of Battle Royal in spite of the many similarities. Just pointing that out. Is she lying? Somehow I don't think so.. I'd never even heard of BR - much less read the book or see the movie- until a couple of years ago .

Anywho.

I don't think Hollywood should be banned from making anime. They just need to get learned on how to do it better. Or stick with dubbing Miyazaki films via Disney/John Lasseter .

What SHOULD be banned is funimation or whatever that crap is that China produces.

[Tavrobel]

I never saw a Hollywood movie stemming from anime comic books that was at least partially decent, mostly it was trout like Avatar the last air bender the Hulk, basically totally horrible movies when compared to their sources.

something something get off my lawn

[Shiny]

Titling a thread "Should Japan ban Hollywood from anime?" and using Avatar: The Last Airbender as your example kind of implies that you consider it both anime and from Japan. xD Which it is neither. Yes, I am being ~that guy~

But, in the end, all adaptations tend to be rubbish. Blanket statement, whaaaaaaat. How many terrible video game adaptations have there been? That's right all of them. Book adaptations are often slated for being terrible compared to their source. Heck, a large proportion of comic book movies are bad. I enjoy some adaptations and not others. Some of them I enjoyed simply because they were terrible.

I don't think that this is a problem unique to anime adaptations, however I'm sure the cultural differences do not help.

If we're talking about Anime or video game to film adaptations then you're right, if you're not then you're wrong. I think the problem is that Hollywood execs who aren't fans of the particular thing they're adapting tend to ruin it. let the fans run how it will go i.e. the directors and the writers. Keep the studios out of it. That's hard to do though seeing as how something like Cowboy Bebop would cost a bajillion dollars to make correctly. The studios don't like letting up on high budget films.

[MJN SEIFER]

Bad remakes of things that are good doesn't make the good things not exist.
Pleased at least one person get's it! I am so sick of people saying that they "ruined the original" when they didn't.

[Ergroilnin]

It's not really ruining the original but when you get any continue of your favorite thing (be it book/novel/manga/anime/movie) and it really dissapoints you, you get a little depressed about it.

Well at least I do anyway.

[Spooniest]

Dragonball: Evolution.

That is all.

[MJN SEIFER]

It's not really ruining the original but when you get any continue of your favorite thing (be it book/novel/manga/anime/movie) and it really dissapoints you, you get a little depressed about it.

Well at least I do anyway. Not me, I love it when I see alternative versions of things I love. I really enjoy seeing other people's takes on them.

Even if I end up hating the result, I just think "Okay, that's what they wanted to do... that's fine, it's their version."

[Sephex]

I am going to make a movie where I place a manga flat on a table with a camera pointing down at it. The manga pages takes up the whole frame. I will jump cut from page to page at an average reading speed. No soundtrack or music will be provided. That way there won't be any risk of ideas/aspects of the original source material going south through any executive scrutiny.

[DMKA]

Since when was Avatar: The Last Airbender considered anime, much less connected to Japan in any way, shape, or form? O___o


I am going to make a movie where I place a manga flat on a table with a camera pointing down at it. The manga pages takes up the whole frame. I will jump cut from page to page at an average reading speed. No soundtrack or music will be provided. That way there won't be any risk of ideas/aspects of the original source material going south through any executive scrutiny.
But then the fans will get angry that you didn't turn the pages with proper manga-reading finesse! AGH THAT'S A FIRST EDITION COPY OF BOYS OVER FLOWERS AND YOU'RE WEARING ON THE PAGES WITH YOUR GAIJIN PAGE TURNING TECHNIQUES! YOU KNOW NOTHING OF GLORIOUS NIPPON AMERICAN SWINE!

[Sephex]

Since when was Avatar: The Last Airbender considered anime, much less connected to Japan in any way, shape, or form? O___o


I am going to make a movie where I place a manga flat on a table with a camera pointing down at it. The manga pages takes up the whole frame. I will jump cut from page to page at an average reading speed. No soundtrack or music will be provided. That way there won't be any risk of ideas/aspects of the original source material going south through any executive scrutiny.
But then the fans will get angry that you didn't turn the pages with proper manga-reading finesse! AGH THAT'S A FIRST EDITION COPY OF BOYS OVER FLOWERS AND YOU'RE WEARING ON THE PAGES WITH YOUR GAIJIN PAGE TURNING TECHNIQUES! YOU KNOW NOTHING OF GLORIOUS NIPPON AMERICAN SWINE!

NO! THEY FOUND ME OUT!!!

*shonen jumps into helicopter blades made of Japanese swords*

[Denmark]

earth president nixon should ban anime from earth

[Quindiana Jones]

I reckon it's an issue of poor cultural transitioning. I started watching the subbed anime after about a year of only dubbed, and good god, the original stuff is much more mature than the "kid's cartoons" the West peddles them as. Until they start to take them more seriously, such as with the current comic book films trend, then we will only ever get shitty films for kids.

[Ergroilnin]

Since when was Avatar: The Last Airbender considered anime, much less connected to Japan in any way, shape, or form? O___o

As I said that was just an example, I never said avatar was japanese but the movie was total shit like when they make movies from anime. Dragonball: Evolution is better example.....

[DMKA]

Dragonball: Evolution is better example.....
Why? It mirrored the quality of it's source material perfectly. :p

[Ayen]

I'm not sure if it's a cultural difference or just the usual Hollywood folk who don't know jack about the source material and don't care to. I lean more with Shiny on that front. If the ones set in Japan are really so hard to adapt then why not go for the animes that take place outside of it? Like Hellsing.

[Mirage]

Because the entire Anime industry is owned exclusively by the Government of the country of Japan.

I came here just to say this, basically.

How do you even "ban" someone from making "anime"? Do you make it illegal to draw things with big eyes and small mouths outside of Japan's borders? How exactly do you envision such a ban to function, Ergroilnin?

[Tavrobel]

How exactly do you envision such a ban to function, Ergroilnin?

Very carefully, I would assume.