Is soup a drink?

[Pike]

It's time for the showdown.

[metagloria]

Pretty tough to drink chunks of meat and vegetables, so...

[Formalhaut]

Not this again. :erm:

[Pumpkin]

we've been over this

[Pike]

We have been over this.

Many months ago.

It's time to reconvene.

[Shauna]

No, it is not.

*bans Pike from making daily polls*

[Formalhaut]

Is there going to be another mysterious site breakdown so BoB doesn't have to answer this question and be mocked for all eternity?

[sharkythesharkdogg]

:zombie:

[The Man]

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[Ayen]

Can it be drank from a glass?

[Pumpkin]

I'm eating soup right now, actually

[Leigh]

Drink the liquidy parts, and eat the potential soupy-bits that are contained within liquidy parts. :)

[Galuf]

some showdown this is turning out to be lol

[Ayen]

If it can be drank out of a glass it's a drink :colbert:

TORIJ HAS SHOWN HIS TRUE COLORS!

[Spooniest]

Soup is a drink when you drink it

It's a dish when you eat it

It's modular food, just like an Apple. You can eat the apple as is, you can slice it into chunks and serve it with honey or peanut butter. Or both.

Milk can be frozen, combined with sugar and cream and flavoring to become Ice Cream.

There should be a third option. Y'all's rigid, uneducated culinary biases are vurry argumentative in nature.

[fat_moogle]

Tough one, but I've decided no. Reason being? I don't dip bread in any of my drinks. So even though I drink Cuppa Soups, I wouldn't put it in the same league as a cup of coffee, juice, water, coke, alcohol etc. It's not something I'd have to quench (what a word, "Quench") my thirst, it would be something I'd want to FEED MAH BELLAH!

[Mirage]

It is not a drink.

[metagloria]

If it can be drank out of a glass it's a drink :colbert:

TORIJ HAS SHOWN HIS TRUE COLORS!

Good luck drinking chicken corn chowder out of a glass.

[Ayen]

If it can be drank out of a glass it's a drink :colbert:

TORIJ HAS SHOWN HIS TRUE COLORS!

Good luck drinking chicken corn chowder out of a glass.

You doubt our skills?

PREPARE TO BE AMAZED!

[Loony BoB]

I have to this day never been given any good, scientific reason for soup to not be a drink (unless said reason also excludes things such as orange juice, milk, smoothies and other such drinks to also be considered not drinks). Do your best, everyone. I will happily concede when I have been given a reason that I think would hold up in a (serious) dictionary or science book.

[Fynn]

Are you guys fucking serious. AGAIN?!

[Madame Adequate]

I have to this day never been given any good, scientific reason for soup to not be a drink (unless said reason also excludes things such as orange juice, milk, smoothies and other such drinks to also be considered not drinks). Do your best, everyone. I will happily concede when I have been given a reason that I think would hold up in a (serious) dictionary or science book.

Well you're not likely to get a scientific reason for soup not to be a drink because it's not science it's just something people who are not crazy inherently know.

[Formalhaut]

If scientists spent their time trying to figure out a solution to this problem, I'd be concerned about where funding gets to these days!

[Ayen]

Never fear! The Almighty Google has answered this question for us:


You eat and drink soup, especially if you have chunks of meat and veggies in the soup you would eat them, and finally slurp up the broth. I think we normally drink soup without any solid food in addition but eat it with other solid foods.

We can all go back to our regular lives.

[Hollycat]

I have to this day never been given any good, scientific reason for soup to not be a drink (unless said reason also excludes things such as orange juice, milk, smoothies and other such drinks to also be considered not drinks). Do your best, everyone. I will happily concede when I have been given a reason that I think would hold up in a (serious) dictionary or science book.
They put it in the food aisles, not with the drinks.

[Shauna]

If scientists spent their time trying to figure out a solution to this problem, I'd be concerned about where funding gets to these days!

*cough* (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Ig_Nobel_Prize_winners)

[Dat Matt]

The real question is. Is orange juice with pulp actually a drink? I mean it's chewy and junk.

PS - Soup is a drink. I have most my soup out of cups.

[Shlup]

I drink soup out of cups but it still is not a drink. Neither is a smoothie--it's cold soup.

[Night Fury]

IMO, 'is soup a drink' is the perfect way for non-staffers to have insight into what it is like being on staff with Loony BoB.

Imagine that 'is soup a drink' becomes any question or query about the forums... 'shall we disable rep in EoEO' now imagine the argument. Imagine BoB, militantly waving the flag for 'YES IT IS A DRINK AND I WILL NOT LET YOU TELL ME OTHERWISE'


There you have it guys, staff.

[CAST VOX]

You cannot drink steak, so it is not a drink.
You can drink soup; it is thus, a drink.

[Colonel Angus]

You're all wrong. The Soup is a TV show.

[blackmage_nuke]

Tough one, but I've decided no. Reason being? I don't dip bread in any of my drinks. So even though I drink Cuppa Soups, I wouldn't put it in the same league as a cup of coffee, juice, water, coke, alcohol etc. It's not something I'd have to quench (what a word, "Quench") my thirst, it would be something I'd want to FEED MAH BELLAH!

Dipping a sweet bread into hot chocolate is divine.

Soup is a drink as you drink it.

[blackmage_nuke]

I want you all to take a second and look at all of the people who voted "Yes". They're a rather...eh...specific breed, aren't they?

I think that alone is enough to prove that soup is a food.

I'm telling you the earth revolves around the sun!

[Værn]

Regardless of where you look to research such things you will find that soup is, by definition, a primarily liquid dish, and that a drink is, by definition, any liquid that is consumed for either nutrition or refreshment. Thus we can conclude, because it is defined as being liquid and because it is consumed for nutrition, that soup is a drink.
Usually people insist on bringing up particularly thick soups as an argument against soup-drinking, but one example does not exclude all other soups from being drinks. And at the very least, you can not deny that the broth that forms the foundation of your thick soups is a drink on its own. Does milk cease to be a drink if it has been mixed with cereal? I think not!


I think that alone is enough to prove that soup is a food.
Your argument is based entirely on the concept that food and drink are mutually exclusive, which they are not. If a type of food happens to be liquid then it is also a drink. Like soup.
The evidence towards soup being a drink has been there, and has been distributed many times. The results of the poll show nothing more than that the majority of those who have been granted access to such information refuse to acknowledge it and stubbornly adhere to their misguided beliefs, regardless of the fact that the argument opposing theirs is drawn from perfectly credible sources.

[Psychotic]

Tomato soup, tomato juice, tomato sauce, tomato ketchup. Which are drinks and which are food?

Troll or be trolled, EoFF, abstaining from the poll is your only middle ground.

[Heath]

Soup is not a drink, though I think it transcends the drink-food divide. If only the food fantatics and drink die-hards could unite behind the compromise nirvana of soup. If only the drinkers could throw down their sharpened straws, and the foodies discard their pointed forks and come together through a mutual love of soup, the world would be a much better place. So much strife has been caused throughout the ages because of this bitter rivalry, and I just long for a better, soup-filled world.

But perhaps I'm just an idealist at heart.

[Rocket Edge]

You eat soup! You've never seen anyone drink water from a glass with a spoon before.

[Værn]

I just told you that a drink is defined as any liquid that is consumed for refreshment or nourishment, and soup is consumed for nourishment. In fact, some dictionaries don't even go that far, saying that a drink is any liquid suitable for swallowing.
It's just like you people to pick out one minor detail of our argument and try turning it against us, while cutting out and ignoring the pieces that prove us right :colbert:


It should also be stated that while some people might physically drink soup (Asian cultures widely come to mind) not everyone drinks soup.
"Drink" as a verb is defined only as taking a liquid into your mouth and swallowing it. It doesn't matter whether you're drinking it straight from the bowl, out of a cup, or slurping it from a spoon. You're still drinking it.

[Pumpkin]

Vaern pls

[Ayen]

Don't "Værn pls" him. The Pokemon makes sense.

[Iceglow]

As I've been sick this week, I totally drank my soup. Apart from the Coconut, Sweet Potato and Chilli soup. That shit may as well have been a jar of Korma sauce.

[Loony BoB]

Okay, stretched and warmed up, ready to go.


Well you're not likely to get a scientific reason for soup not to be a drink
Everything after this was 100% irrelevant. It's on par with "I'm not _____, but..." Next!

They put it in the food aisles, not with the drinks.
I've seen food in the drink aisles and vice versa at all kinds of stores. Next!

Imagine that 'is soup a drink' becomes any question or query about the forums... 'shall we disable rep in EoEO' now imagine the argument. Imagine BoB, militantly waving the flag for 'YES IT IS A DRINK AND I WILL NOT LET YOU TELL ME OTHERWISE'

There you have it guys, staff.
Ah, irony. No argument was had regarding the former issue (although I did raise caution and questions when it was proposed, in the end agreeing with the proposal), and for the latter, I am actually really keen on someone telling me otherwise, because I was stunned when I couldn't think of a reason in the first place. What started as a joke fast turned out to be a surprisingly factual thing. It makes me laugh, rather than any militant activity. I would love for someone to prove me wrong, but nobody can, and thus the amusement of it all carries on and on and on.

On the other hand, though, I don't deny that I am a bastard in staff when there is a split opinion. :shobon:

Tomato soup, tomato juice, tomato sauce, tomato ketchup. Which are drinks and which are food?
Soup is a drink. Juice is a drink. I am still undecided on condiments/sauces/dips... they are far thicker than any soup I've ever had, yet are still technically drinkable. I don't think anyone would drink a sauce, though... would they!? :erm: Personally, I just put a touch of condiment onto food, and therefore I eat it with the food. So I'm doing to say food for sauce and ketchup, provided they are not consumed "as-is" rather than simply dipped into.

Soup is not a drink, though I think it transcends the drink-food divide. If only the food fantatics and drink die-hards could unite behind the compromise nirvana of soup. If only the drinkers could throw down their sharpened straws, and the foodies discard their pointed forks and come together through a mutual love of soup, the world would be a much better place. So much strife has been caused throughout the ages because of this bitter rivalry, and I just long for a better, soup-filled world.

But perhaps I'm just an idealist at heart.
Let's just say it's very interesting to see which things in this world people choose to believe, for whatever reason (or lack of reason), that two things are mutually exclusive.

You eat soup! You've never seen anyone drink water from a glass with a spoon before.
I've seen people drink milk from a spoon.

1. Neither quenches or refreshes since it almost always has salt in it. Salt dehydrates, even in liquids. This is why you are thirstier when eating salty foods.
2. While you might drink any number of drinks/liquids while not eating to quench or refresh your thirst, you never drink soup outside of a meal.

It should also be stated that while some people might physically drink soup (Asian cultures widely come to mind) not everyone drinks soup.

Soup is a not a drink.
Alcohol dehydrates far more than soup ever will. Also, soft drinks, tea, coffee and milk do not actually offer "net hydration" as they contain things which actually use up any water within them. Finally, having crafted some nice home-made soup myself, I can confirm that a well made fresh soup does not require salt.

And you totally drink soup outside of a meal if you want to. This has nothing to do with food or drink, though, as drinks and food are both consumed both within and outside of meals.

EDIT: Missed that last bit. Actually, on a scientific level, you do drink soup, or at the very least sip it, perhaps even gulp it.

I find it interesting that the percentage of yes voters has increased since the last poll.

[Mirage]

If you can drink *all* of it, it's a drink. If you have to pick even a single thing up with a spoon, fork, or even your hands, it is a soup. If you have to separate the solids from the liquids, it is not a drink.

[Loony BoB]

If you can drink *all* of it, it's a drink. If you have to pick even a single thing up with a spoon, fork, or even your hands, it is a soup. If you have to separate the solids from the liquids, it is not a drink.
What about milk? People put all kinds of fruit and cereal into milk.

Lots of soups have no added food, but I'm assuming you had that in mind when you made your post. So my question is, for example, should you have vegetable soup with some chunks of vegetable in it, and you remove those vegetables and still have the liquid remaining, does that instantly change that soup from "not drink" to "drink" the moment that last bit of food is removed? If this is the case, what happens when someone makes cocktail that has a berry or lime in it?