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BlackFire
05-11-2015, 05:05 AM
Hey guys and gals, I was wondering if there are any fans of the Mass Effect games here?
I have played them SO MANY times that I have lost count!
I have all the DLC for them as well.
They are three GREAT games.
FemShep FTW! :)
Me. Was introduced through the series with 2 and went back to play the first one. Fell in love with the story and characters from the first one, but honestly prefer the gameplay in the second. I have my issues with 3, and no they have nothing to do with the bloody ending. I own all three on the Xbox 360.
FemShep is the only correct Shep.
BlackFire
05-11-2015, 05:27 AM
Me. Was introduced through the series with 2 and went back to play the first one. Fell in love with the story and characters from the first one, but honestly prefer the gameplay in the second. I have my issues with 3, and no they have nothing to do with the bloody ending. I own all three on the Xbox 360.
FemShep is the only correct Shep.
Yea, pretty much the same for me. Started with 2, then went to 3. Then I just had to go back to 1 to get it all in. I own all three on the 360 as well. The ending for three sucks, it could of been better, but the story and the climax was building and then that ending had to END it all with no hope of continuation.
Mirage
05-11-2015, 05:54 AM
Except the third, yes. I greatly prefer the first, although I'll admit the gameplay is bettet in the second.
Femshep is the only true shepard.
Me. Was introduced through the series with 2 and went back to play the first one. Fell in love with the story and characters from the first one, but honestly prefer the gameplay in the second. I have my issues with 3, and no they have nothing to do with the bloody ending. I own all three on the Xbox 360.
FemShep is the only correct Shep.
Yea, pretty much the same for me. Started with 2, then went to 3. Then I just had to go back to 1 to get it all in. I own all three on the 360 as well. The ending for three sucks, it could of been better, but the story and the climax was building and then that ending had to END it all with no hope of continuation.
Didn't BioWare add free DLC to fix the problems with the ending?
Mirage
05-11-2015, 05:57 AM
Me. Was introduced through the series with 2 and went back to play the first one. Fell in love with the story and characters from the first one, but honestly prefer the gameplay in the second. I have my issues with 3, and no they have nothing to do with the bloody ending. I own all three on the Xbox 360.
FemShep is the only correct Shep.
Yea, pretty much the same for me. Started with 2, then went to 3. Then I just had to go back to 1 to get it all in. I own all three on the 360 as well. The ending for three sucks, it could of been better, but the story and the climax was building and then that ending had to END it all with no hope of continuation.
Didn't BioWare add free DLC to fix the problems with the ending?
It's still bad.
BlackFire
05-11-2015, 06:04 AM
Me. Was introduced through the series with 2 and went back to play the first one. Fell in love with the story and characters from the first one, but honestly prefer the gameplay in the second. I have my issues with 3, and no they have nothing to do with the bloody ending. I own all three on the Xbox 360.
FemShep is the only correct Shep.
Yea, pretty much the same for me. Started with 2, then went to 3. Then I just had to go back to 1 to get it all in. I own all three on the 360 as well. The ending for three sucks, it could of been better, but the story and the climax was building and then that ending had to END it all with no hope of continuation.
Didn't BioWare add free DLC to fix the problems with the ending?
It's still bad.
Yea. As far as I am concerned the DLC did not provide enough closure.
Psychotic
05-11-2015, 08:27 AM
Krogans of the world unite.
Freya
05-11-2015, 03:39 PM
Don't get me started on my love and obsession of Kaidan Alenko Mass Effect.
Mirage
05-11-2015, 03:43 PM
I killed Kaidan and never looked back.
Actually I kind of did. Ashley is a douche.
Kaidan died for the good of the group. May he never be forgotten!
Freya
05-11-2015, 11:34 PM
No, Ashley died for the good of the group. She was also racist against aliens so there's that too.
Forsaken Lover
05-12-2015, 06:32 PM
I played through the whole Trilogy for the first time last Christmas/Near Year.
I rank them as:
Mass Effect 2: Great.
Mass Effect 3: Good.
Mass Effect 1: Okay
Problem is, ME1 had the weakest cast. Only Wrex was interesting or likable. Garrus got a lot better in 2 and Kaidan got a lot better in 3.
Then of course 2 simply had the best cast in any BW game ever. Jack, Miranda, Garrus, Zaeed, Thane, Mordin... There were only two characters I didn't care for and that was Jacob and Samara.
And dat Suicide Mission. Especially the Biotic Bubble part.
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That last part. where Jack is just totally exhausted, and makes the last desperate sprint for safety, combined with this music, is just immensely powerful. I love you Jack.
I KNOW YOU FEEL THIS.
Zelfina Ai'ada
05-13-2015, 11:18 AM
Y'know, I put off trying this series for YEARS. I was always tempted because I love Bioware to death, but I always figured the game would be too much third-person shooter for me. Last year I finally decided to ME2 to try (since it seems that was everyone's favorite) and bam! I fell in love. After finishing 2 I played through 1 and and now near the end of 3. Already can't wait for ME4.
Mirage
05-13-2015, 11:22 AM
That'll change once you've finished 3
No, Ashley died for the good of the group. She was also racist against aliens so there's that too.
While we're on the subject of racism in Mass Effect, I find it adorable that the entire human race are brought together in unity to be bigots to new alien species instead of being bigoted to each other and then wonder why the aliens treat them like second class citizens all the time.
Except Captain Anderson. #notallhumans
ME3 is still fantastic. The ending may have been a bit confusing or ambiguous. But the game is still great to play. I've enjoyed a lot of games with shit endings, so at least they tried. I guess doing finales are hard. I've seen a lot of books and movies fail at that most pivotal point as well. So its hard to hold it against them when they pretty much nailed everything else. It doesn't ruin the game, and it certainly doesn't ruin the series. It's just ... there. Nothing more
Mirage
05-14-2015, 06:40 PM
It's not confusing, it's dumb.
Freya
05-14-2015, 07:18 PM
ME3 was a great game. ME3's ending was not. But that's because Casey Hudson locked himself in a room and wrote the ending alone and hten kept it mostly a secret from the rest of the writing staff because... reasons? So that's why the ending is so jarring compared to the rest of the game, it was written by one guy. The rest of the staff had nothing to do with it but of course everyone got blamed. BUT HE'S GONE NOW :D :D :D He left in August of last year so maybe Mass Effect 4 will work better.
EA is having a pre-E3 conference on June 14th (16th is E3 official start date) so we may see something about ME4 then :D
Look this was tweeted by a Cinematic director two days ago for some motion capture! :D
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Mirage
05-14-2015, 11:47 PM
so pretty
Forsaken Lover
05-15-2015, 07:20 AM
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Harbinger x Shepard OTP.
Freya
05-15-2015, 04:15 PM
Are we sharing videos? I love the commander shepard song.
But no matter what scars you bear, whatever uniform you wear. You can fight like a krogan, run like a leopard but you'll never be better than commander shepard.
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Rantz
05-15-2015, 11:32 PM
Excitedly: Mass Effect is an amazing series. I have yet to play 3, but I think I'll start it pretty soon as I replayed ME2 just the other week. Jokingly: Femshep is much cooler as a character, but I like romancing the women more, so I'm torn.
I played through the whole series as dude Shep, and watched my girlfriend play through multiple times as a chick, and I played through the first game and most of the second as a chick, and I enjoyed both. I'm not sure why people have such disdain for the male version other than the possibility that it's just anti-establishment and going against the grain since male shep was canon and everyone wanted to be different. But now you're all the same! :P
I played through the whole series as dude Shep, and watched my girlfriend play through multiple times as a chick, and I played through the first game and most of the second as a chick, and I enjoyed both. I'm not sure why people have such disdain for the male version other than the possibility that it's just anti-establishment and going against the grain since male shep was canon and everyone wanted to be different. But now you're all the same! :P
Male Shep isn't canon. Shepard doesn't have a set gender. Male Shep is just the default in promotional stuff.
My brother is a huge Dragon Age fanatic so I recommended these games to him since they were made by the same people. I think DA spoiled him in a lot of ways because according to him the games aren't nearly as expansive as exploring DA's world was. Then there were the customizations for Shepard, which admittedly isn't that great. Compare Shep to the character models in the game and he/she looks awful. I don't know if that's improved in the later game because I never spent that much time on the character create screen.
He's having difficulty making it through the second game because it's even worse in the exploration side of things. You're severely cut off in the second game compared to where you were in the first. I never thought about it that way. It is a fair point to make. ME2 is pretty focused on that one area. I'm not sure if he'll like the third game any better. According to him there doesn't seem to be any mods for the game. With Dragon Age there are a ton of stuff to download but it doesn't seem like anyone bothered with Mass Effect. I don't know if he's just looking in the wrong places or not, but it's interesting.
Rantz
05-16-2015, 01:01 AM
The main thing about Femshep for me is that her voice actor is better.
Forsaken Lover
05-16-2015, 02:20 AM
Exactly. Apparently the guy who does Manshep is better in 3 but I played through most of 2 a second time for the Jack/Miranda romances and I just can't stand his voice. Jennifer Hale put a lot more effort and emotion into it.
My only criticism of Femshep is the lack of romance options. I like Liara but she's got nothing on Jack or Miranda and that's probably because 2's characters are way better written than 1's. Thane is a pretty cool character and I would romance him if not for the whole dying thing.
I guess I'll just have to go with Morinth my next time through. I always liked her.
http://i.imgur.com/NaKmcD7.jpg
I'm sure everything will turn out okay.
But yes, romance is the one area I think ME completely fails compared to DA.
Randy
06-11-2015, 01:19 PM
Aren't the male and female Shepherds exactly the same? They were in the scenes that I compared. Doesn't seem to be much basis to heavily prefer either!
Formalhaut
06-11-2015, 01:56 PM
Mr. Carnelian got me into this series and I never looked back. It easily ranks as one of my top video game series. I just loved the story, the characters, the setting, and the game-play (though I did play on casual...). Some of my best gaming moments come from playing the series.
And to be honest, I really didn't mind ME3's ending much. I don't think I understand the criticism. It was vague, I guess. But I got the Synthesis ending and EDI's explanation of how the events affected her felt so deserved. Maybe it is just me. ME3 wasn't the best in the series though. I pined for more meaningful side-quests. Granted, the story didn't really allow for casual and fun joyrides through the galaxy but I did miss them. If nothing else, ME3 gave us the 'Citadel' DLC (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0o4AmXtYVFE) which is one of the most humorously in-jokey, engaging and strangely bittersweet experiences in the series, particularly if you play it right before the point of no return. What ME3 did great was ratchet up that sense of finality. Playing through the main missions, I really felt like I was getting towards the end.
And talking about EDI; easily my favorite companion in arguably the series. Her interactions with Joker in particular (and getting them together!) was one of the more enjoyable moments of ME3. I also loved Tali's development throughout the series.
Alright, question: Paragon or Renegade? I went with full paragon the entire way through.
Bright Shield
06-11-2015, 09:23 PM
1 was really good, and 2 had it's moments despite being almost entirely character sub plots. 3 was trash though. Worst deus ex machina ever.
FFNut
06-11-2015, 10:20 PM
I ended up hating everyone of the games. I wanted to like them and tried my best to, but I just couldn't. I bought 1,2, and 3 played them and then shut them off disgusted I wasted money on them. It sucks because they seem like a game I'd really enjoy.
I ended up hating everyone of the games. I wanted to like them and tried my best to, but I just couldn't. I bought 1,2, and 3 played them and then shut them off disgusted I wasted money on them. It sucks because they seem like a game I'd really enjoy.
Do you know what it was about them that made you dislike them so much?
This forum's fans aren't the pushy type, but perhaps we could help you appreciate it more, if something about it was bothering you. Unless you're just not into action hybrid RPGs, which is understandable
FFNut
06-12-2015, 04:20 AM
I couldn't figure out why, just didn't do it for me. It was painful to make the playthrough, then the second I finished the games I gave them away because I knew I would never play them again.
Mirage
06-12-2015, 01:55 PM
Aren't the male and female Shepherds exactly the same? They were in the scenes that I compared. Doesn't seem to be much basis to heavily prefer either!
They have different intonation and stuff when they speak. Gives off a different impression in many cases.
Freya
06-12-2015, 06:35 PM
Are you fans of shooters? That could have been it if you went into the cover and fire type shooters.
I'm really excited for ME4 and am hoping we get some info at E3
Randy
06-20-2015, 09:58 PM
Aren't the male and female Shepherds exactly the same? They were in the scenes that I compared. Doesn't seem to be much basis to heavily prefer either!
They have different intonation and stuff when they speak. Gives off a different impression in many cases.
Well given that I went for completely different morality options with different versions, I couldn't help thinking the male Shepherd was calm and collected and the female Shepherd was a bit of a psycho. I'm guessing that was all down to the choices rather than the voice acting though?
No active Mass Effect thread? Okay, I'll fix it.
Mass Effect is one of my favorite RPG series of all time. I love the first one, though if you read my review you'd think I hated it or something. It has a lot of problems I noticed more and more over time. I also adore Mass Effect 2 and it was my introduction into the franchise. Man it's hard jumping from that to 1 and back to 2 with how different the controls are. 3 is my least favorite and I suppose a lot of its problems can be contributed to being rushed or something. I don't know what happened. Femshep is best Shep.
Discuss.
Forsaken Lover
07-18-2015, 09:18 AM
TIM Was Right.
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Just gonna quote the comment I made on this video
I recently played the ME Trilogy for the first time. First game, I was a devout Spectre. I did everything for the Council, including saving their lives. They vowed to stop the Reapers.
Come the second game and they turned their backs on me, betraying me by going back on their word. The Alliance was similarly useless. I was wary of Cerberus, I had seen the kinda smurfed up trout they did in the first game. But you know what? They gave Shepard...everything. They gave her a ship, a crew, information...they gave her LIFE. All to stop the Collectors and save innocent colonists.
In the name of this objective, and out of appreciation for everything they had done for me, I was absolutely loyal to Cerberus. I kept David in Project Overlord, I gave them the Collector Base, I was a true believer and a faithful soldier. Then ME3 came and... Well, this is one of my favorite scenes from it:
Kaidan: And the Illusive Man?
Shepard: Was he a good person?
Kaidan: Once? Ever?
Shepard: Well he gave me what I needed to stop the Collectors...
Kaidan: Right. Exactly. But so you never saw this coming from them? From him?
Shepard: (It's complicated) Back then he wanted the best for humanity, and he had resources to spare. But then it became humanity first and at any cost. And that..that's a very different thing. But this? No, I never saw this coming from him.
I played the Trilogy as Femshep. I played ME2 as Manshep solely for the Jack/Miranda romances but goddam I can't stand his voice. The dude can't emote to save his life as far as I'm concerned.
Mass Effect 2 is one of my Top 5 RPGs ever now but if there's any area I think it lags behind DA it's romance options, especially for a female. I hated Kaidan in 1 and Liara was okay but the problem is ME1's characters kinda suck. But then ME2's characters were so friggin' unbelievably super duper good! But who did Femshep have?
Garrus is my bro and I love him dearly but he's a bro, not a love interest.
Samara? She's the only ME2 squadmate I actively dislike.
Morinth? SHE KILLS ME.
Thane? HE'S DYING.
Kelly? I never got this to work. I actually tried too but no deal. I guess you have to pick the exact right dialogue choices or something.
But I just absolutely loved Miranda and Jack as characters and I really feel like Jack should have been a bisexual choice given we know she slept with a woman in the past. Oh well....
Miranda was the character my Femshep related to most. The "efficient, follow your orders, do what must be done" soldier type.
Yet I still obviously sympathized with Jack. That's why I had her kill that other Praggia survivor. Judging from how she is in ME3, I guess it was the right call. I also had Jack be my Biotic Barrier Maiden because she was created to be a super biotic and I knew she wouldn't let me down.
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More of my YT comments:
I just played Mass Effect 2 for the first time. I chose Jack for this part. She was created to be a super biotic and I knew she wouldn't let me down. And she didn't. Even as you saw how fatigued and weakened she was towards the end, even as you heard it in her voice that she was close to collapsing, she kept that barrier up for me. That last desperate sprint for the exit....
I love you, Jack.
I also let Garrus shoot Sidonis, left the factory workers to burn in Zaeed's mission, and let Mordin kill Maelon. The last one I feel particularly strong about. I really hate the people who see Shep as a busybody do-gooder who should intervene in everything. What was going on between Mordin and Maelon had absolutely nothing to do with Shepard. The root of their conflict goes back years before Shepard ever met Mordin. It's rooted in a debate of ethics and guilt and rationalization Shep has no part in whatsoever. Stopping Mordin is sticking her nose in a place it simply does not belong.
I never got the love for Tali. She died on the Suicide Mission and I didn't even notice until I was checking on everyone post-game and saw sh ewasn't in the engineering room.
ME3 had its downsides, and maybe it wasn't as good as Suicide Mission, but holy hell the Battle for London....
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That last part, when Hammer Team is wiped out, and it's up to you to launch the missiles, where you have to DISTRACT the Reaper, lure it closer with its instant beam of death, while enemies spawn all around you, while the world is shaking crazily because of the Reaper's death beam... It's a perfect scene of chaos and when this kicks in, you know it's up to YOU. This heroic struggle for survival is all up to you.
Also don't forget during this you'll hear the scream of MULTIPLE Banshees. That alone is enough to put the fear of god into you. It put the fear of god into me. Those things were the single hardest part of ME3. It reminded me of when I did Tali's mission in ME2 on Hardcore for the Geth Pulse Rifle. You have any idea how much I died there?
Squadmates listed from Favorite to Least:
Miranda
Jack
Wrex (best ME1 Squadmate by lightyears)
Garrus (I let him win the bottle shooting contest)
Legion (Long live the geth, no one cares about the quarians)
Mordin
Thane
Zaeed (my main party in ME2 was Shep, Miranda and Zaeed. Team Consummate Professional)
Liara
Morinth
These are all the characters I loved. The rest are in the Middle where I'm Eh about them.
Kaidan in ME3
Kasumi
Jacob
Tali
James
EDI
Now the characters I actively dislike...
Samara
Ashley
ME1 Kaidan
Shauna
07-18-2015, 10:29 AM
No active Mass Effect thread? Okay, I'll fix it.
Less than a month ago is hardly inactive. ;)
My memory is getting worse.
I agree, Femshep doesn't get a lot of good romance options in these games. I plain forgot Jack was bisexual after a while.
Mirage
07-19-2015, 09:52 PM
Maybe femshep just wasn't jack's type.
Night Fury
07-19-2015, 09:57 PM
Gay male shep got no romance option until the last game of the trilogy. (Unless you count the 'hidden' Kaiden option also)
Maybe femshep just wasn't jack's type.
Femshep is everyone's type.
Mirage
07-19-2015, 10:16 PM
i... i can be femshep's type?
:love:
Mr. Carnelian
07-19-2015, 10:25 PM
I really liked Mass Effect, and loved 2 and 3.
I even loved the ending of 3. There. I said it.
Randy
07-19-2015, 10:32 PM
I really liked Mass Effect, and loved 2 and 3.
I even loved the ending of 3. There. I said it.
Original or updated version? The only people I knew who enjoyed the original ending were those really bought into the indoctrination theory.
Mr. Carnelian
07-19-2015, 10:33 PM
I really liked Mass Effect, and loved 2 and 3.
I even loved the ending of 3. There. I said it.
Original or updated version?
Both, for different reasons.
Mirage
07-20-2015, 08:37 AM
can i retract my vote for best newbie?
Mr. Carnelian
07-20-2015, 10:57 AM
can i retract my vote for best newbie?
You can be very mean. :p
Remember how awesome that one Reaper was in the first Mass Effect and how everyone had to work together to stop it?
ME3 gets double that and it's like... "Uhh, yeah we have Reapers but we're doing other stuff now. Oh, and Cerberus! They're bad people!"
Not impressed.
Forsaken Lover
07-20-2015, 02:15 PM
ME3 explained that as not all Reapers are "Sovereign-class." Some are tinier and weaker.
Makes sense to me.
ME3 explained that as not all Reapers are "Sovereign-class." Some are tinier and weaker.
Makes sense to me.
Boo! I want my Sovereign-class Reapers.
Mr. Carnelian
07-20-2015, 05:46 PM
Boo! I want my Sovereign-class Reapers.
They're still there. They're just not the ones that you take out on the ground.
Formalhaut
07-20-2015, 05:55 PM
I'm with Mr. Carny that I found the endings alright. I mean, I chose the Synthesis ending, and while I'm sad that Shepard dies, I thought the ending was great. Maybe slightly vague, but conclusive enough for me. I didn't feel short-changed. I don't get the bad press about the ending, personally.
My only problem with the ending is that I had the ending spoiled for me and it killed my enjoyment of the game because I knew what the ending was.
I'll get back to it eventually.
Del Murder
07-20-2015, 07:44 PM
I never played ME1 though I have the ME Trilogy for PS3 and will get to it eventually. I'm not sure if I'll take this character through the other games and make different choices since these games are so long. I don't know if I have time for that.
I loved ME2. Definitely one of the best games of last gen. I was a Sentinel and that tech armor saved my ass dozens of times. I also romanced Jack and we had a torrid affair and I kept everyone alive at the end. :cool:
ME3 was great as well. I understand the criticism for the ending, and yes those last 5 minutes were pretty BS, but I saw the whole game being the ending of that series. There were so many threads to tie up and it did a good job of doing so throughout the game rather than putting it all in the last hour or so. I do wish the ending incorporated more of the player choices throughout the series rather than a generic 'pick one of these three options for the end' that disregarded everything that happened before that.
Randy
07-21-2015, 12:46 PM
ME3 explained that as not all Reapers are "Sovereign-class." Some are tinier and weaker.
Makes sense to me.
Did it? At what point was that?
Mr. Carnelian
07-21-2015, 12:54 PM
ME3 explained that as not all Reapers are "Sovereign-class." Some are tinier and weaker.
Makes sense to me.
Did it? At what point was that?
I thought it was fairly clear. I mean, it was obvious the Reaper you saw on Tuchanka was not as large as Sovereign. Plus, it looked quite different.
EDI explained the different classes of Reaper in an optional bit of dialogue on board the Normandy. She gave comparisons of sizes and everything. It is completely optional, so you could miss it.
It's also explained in the codex.
Formalhaut
07-21-2015, 12:54 PM
I do wish the ending incorporated more of the player choices throughout the series rather than a generic 'pick one of these three options for the end' that disregarded everything that happened before that.
True, though to be honest, it'd be a tall order to formulate an epic massive ending that took into account all the major choices. It is slightly lazy, though, granted. I just think it would take quite a lot to incorporate so many variables.
Shauna
07-21-2015, 01:08 PM
I do wish the ending incorporated more of the player choices throughout the series rather than a generic 'pick one of these three options for the end' that disregarded everything that happened before that.
True, though to be honest, it'd be a tall order to formulate an epic massive ending that took into account all the major choices. It is slightly lazy, though, granted. I just think it would take quite a lot to incorporate so many variables.
They touted all along how "All your choices matter! Something you do at the start might drastically effect the outcome of the game!", when in reality the only choice that mattered is that final one. If they hadn't sold it on that notion, then I don't think people would have really cared all that much. So yes, it would have taken a lot of effort to do what they promised, but if they couldn't feasibly manage it, then they shouldn't have promised it to begin with.
Mr. Carnelian
07-21-2015, 01:23 PM
The thing I don't understand is when people say that the ending 'ruins' the whole of Mass Effect 3.
Even if you think that the ending is bad, that doesn't invalidate the rest of the game.
Shauna
07-21-2015, 01:25 PM
I suppose I should add that I didn't hate the ending, but I get the complaints.
Mr. Carnelian
07-21-2015, 01:28 PM
I suppose I should add that I didn't hate the ending, but I get the complaints.
I understand why people didn't like the ending.
But, those reasons didn't bother me, so I enjoyed it. :spin:
Formalhaut
07-21-2015, 01:30 PM
Maybe it was fairly stupid for them to emphasize just how much your choices would affect the ending. They did a pretty good job of your choices affecting everything but the ending.
And to be honest, they couldn't have that many endings. They had to end the trilogy. Having like, 10 or more different endings would make things really hard to wrap up just from a practical standpoint. I suppose I get the complaints now, thanks Shauna.
To be honest, I never really listen to what developers promise anyway. That's why I'm enjoying the Fable series so much :p
Mr. Carnelian
07-21-2015, 01:35 PM
To be honest, I never really listen to what developers promise anyway. That's why I'm enjoying the Fable series so much :p
NEVER believe developers' promises. They hype their games to ludicrous extremes, which they can never actually live up to. Looking at you, Peter Molyneux. :stare:
To be honest, I was pleased just to have a choice of endings. I had expected that there would only be one, with maybe a minor choice to lend difference, as in Mass Effect and Mass Effect 2. :spin:
Randy
07-21-2015, 01:49 PM
I thought it was fairly clear. I mean, it was obvious the Reaper you saw on Tuchanka was not as large as Sovereign. Plus, it looked quite different.
EDI explained the different classes of Reaper in an optional bit of dialogue on board the Normandy. She gave comparisons of sizes and everything. It is completely optional, so you could miss it.
It's also explained in the codex.
Lol well you must have superior size detection abilities to my own. I tend to need to see things in some common frame of reference to judge size!
I definitely missed a lot of the codex stuff though, there was just too much of it!
ME3 explained that as not all Reapers are "Sovereign-class." Some are tinier and weaker.
Makes sense to me.
Did it? At what point was that?
I thought it was fairly clear. I mean, it was obvious the Reaper you saw on Tuchanka was not as large as Sovereign. Plus, it looked quite different.
EDI explained the different classes of Reaper in an optional bit of dialogue on board the Normandy. She gave comparisons of sizes and everything. It is completely optional, so you could miss it.
It's also explained in the codex.
Something of that importance really shouldn't be boiled down to optional dialogue. Regardless, the Reapers fail as villains. There's no sense of urgency when you see them. The Collectors were more terrifying in Mass Effect 2.
Mr. Carnelian
07-21-2015, 02:49 PM
Regardless, the Reapers fail as villains. There's no sense of urgency when you see them. The Collectors were more terrifying in Mass Effect 2.
That's why they needed to bring in Cerberus.
The Reapers work brilliantly as an ominous, background threat, but they lack enough personality to be the foreground villains.
The Illusive Man and Kai Leng took those roles, and I think they served their function admirably.
Formalhaut
07-21-2015, 03:31 PM
The reapers are your impersonal main antagonist. In ME3, Cerberus is Shepard's personal antagonist.
I suppose the dialogue being optional is annoying, but who wouldn't want to go talk to EDI all the time!
Mr. Carnelian
07-21-2015, 03:36 PM
I suppose the dialogue being optional is annoying, but who wouldn't want to go talk to EDI all the time!
I really liked EDI. Her storyline is a bit cliche, but I thought it was pulled off rather well.
Her and Garrus are my favourite squad in Mass Effect 3.
Still a poor payoff as far as I'm concerned. Especially after two games worth of buildup for them and Sovereign being a badass. You know that Reaper who gets in your face during the Krogan mission? We needed more of that.
Formalhaut
07-21-2015, 03:38 PM
I suppose the dialogue being optional is annoying, but who wouldn't want to go talk to EDI all the time!
I really liked EDI. Her storyline is a bit cliche, but I thought it was pulled off rather well.
Her and Garrus are my favourite squad in Mass Effect 3.
EDI is arguably my favorite companion in the series. Her story-line is cliche but for a sci-fi beginner like me I've never actually witnessed this particular story trope before, so I fell in love with her and Joker's budding romance. Anyone who chose the 'don't pursue it option' is evil!
Mr. Carnelian
07-21-2015, 03:41 PM
Still a poor payoff as far as I'm concerned. Especially after two games worth of buildup for them and Sovereign being a badass. You know that Reaper who gets in your face during the Krogan mission? We needed more of that.
There was PLENTY of that.
There was the Rannoch mission, where you're basically in a Mexican standoff with a Reaper.
There was the mission on Thessia where a sovereign-class Reaper practically walks on top of you.
Finally, there was the run for the conduit, where three sovereign-class Reapers were shooting directly at you.
Still a poor payoff as far as I'm concerned. Especially after two games worth of buildup for them and Sovereign being a badass. You know that Reaper who gets in your face during the Krogan mission? We needed more of that.
There was PLENTY of that.
There was the Rannoch mission, where you're basically in a Mexican standoff with a Reaper.
There was the mission on Thessia where a sovereign-class Reaper practically walks on top of you.
Finally, there was the run for the conduit, where three sovereign-class Reapers were shooting directly at you.
Ah, well. In that case I'll go back to talking about things I like instead.
Garrus is the man and I was seriously considering cheating on Liara with him.
Formalhaut
07-21-2015, 03:59 PM
I always found Garrus to be my friend, rather than a lover. In fact, in my first play-through of the ME series with FemShep, I didn't romance anyone at all. I knew who was available, but I felt like being friends with them all. My next play-through will be with a male Shepard. I would romance Kaiden the entire way through, but you can only do that in ME3.
Maybe Ashley? But then, I'm killing her off this time. The only annoying thing with the romances in this game is that because many companions don't stay companions (becoming guest appearances in some of the games) I'm worried that you won't get a complete experience, and it may come across as slightly stunted.
Oh! Tali! She's with you the entire length of the game. Got it. I'll romance Tali across all the games. You can't romance Tali in ME1, but she's with you all the way anyway.
Night Fury
07-21-2015, 04:07 PM
I was romancing Garrus, but then cheated on him with Thane.
Tali is a babe though and I wish I could be in lesbians with her :(
Formalhaut
07-21-2015, 04:10 PM
Comparing the Dragon Age romances to the Mass Effect ones, I have to say, the Dragon Age ones grip me much more.
I was romancing Garrus, but then cheated on him with Thane.
How could you!? :onoes:
Del Murder
07-21-2015, 08:13 PM
I do wish the ending incorporated more of the player choices throughout the series rather than a generic 'pick one of these three options for the end' that disregarded everything that happened before that.
True, though to be honest, it'd be a tall order to formulate an epic massive ending that took into account all the major choices. It is slightly lazy, though, granted. I just think it would take quite a lot to incorporate so many variables.
Oh yes it certainly would be. But it would be freaking awesome. Maybe with the new hardware they are able to do that. Also I've heard that The Witcher 3 takes player choice and shaping the world to a whole new level.
Freya
07-21-2015, 09:01 PM
Garrus is a bro, not a lover, how would that even work?
Now stop arguing about the ending and enjoy ME4's Space Cowboyness
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Mr. Carnelian
07-21-2015, 10:57 PM
The romance options I have done are...
Playthrough A
- Mass Effect, Male Shepard: Ashley
- Mass Effect 2, Male Shepard: Miranda
- Mass Effect 3, Male Shepard: Miranda
Playthrough B
- Mass Effect, Female Shepard: Kaidan
- Mass Effect 3, Female Shepard: Kaidan
Playthrough C
- Mass Effect 3, Female Shepard: Traynor
Other ones which I intend to get around to at some point are...
Mass Effect 2, Female Shepard: Thane, Garrus
Mass Effect 3, Female Shepard: Thane, Garrus
Mass Effect 3, Male Shepard: Kaidan, Cortez
Which ones have y'all done?
I have to say, my favourite so far was male Shepard and Miranda.
I only ever did Liara and stayed loyal to her in the trilogy. Well, after having an affair with the lesbian chick who makes a move on you in 3, but then I went back to a previous save :shifty:
Mr. Carnelian
07-21-2015, 11:13 PM
I only ever did Liara and stayed loyal to her in the trilogy. Well, after having an affair with the lesbian chick who makes a move on you in 3, but then I went back to a previous save :shifty:
Playthrough A Shepard would have stayed loyal to Ashley, if she hadn't dropped him like a hot stone on Horizon.
Playthrough A Shepard and Miranda were a much better match, anyway.
I only ever did Liara and stayed loyal to her in the trilogy. Well, after having an affair with the lesbian chick who makes a move on you in 3, but then I went back to a previous save :shifty:
Playthrough A Shepard would have stayed loyal to Ashley, if she hadn't dropped him like a hot stone on Horizon.
Playthrough A Shepard and Miranda were a much better match, anyway.
Yeah, Ashley is kind of a bitch.
I enjoyed putting her in her place when she started hating on aliens.
I don't know if I'd go as far as calling myself a "fan" but I did enjoy them. The third game's ending was incredibly disappointing though, and all the anger lobbed at BioWare for it was very much deserved.
Even still I am looking forward to seeing what Andromeda is like and if BioWare has actually learned anything.
Freya
07-22-2015, 04:24 AM
Yah, Casey Hudson, the lead producer who locked the rest of the writers out of writing the ending to write his own ending (the sucky one. Seriously most of the writers didn't even know much about it until it was released) has quit. So Andromeda should be good cause he's gone!
Not a lot of games have fantastic endings anyway. Plus, I consider all of Mass Effect 3 to be a culmination. So your previous choices do affect how things turn out. Not the last 5 minutes. But definitely the last 5 hours. And more
I wasn't offended by the ending or anything. The original was weirdly ambiguous and not well depicted. I did like the indoctrination theory once I came across it. But the updated ending is pretty alright. I have no complaints, and it certainly doesn't keep me from enjoying the games. They are awesome. And as a straight dude. I would happily date Garrus. He's freaking awesome
Forsaken Lover
07-25-2015, 04:56 AM
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Mirage
07-25-2015, 11:02 AM
I don't really agree with that description of the geth.
setsua25
07-25-2015, 06:26 PM
I like mass effect 3, cant wait until it comes out. If it does.
Mirage
07-25-2015, 06:30 PM
You're in luck! It came out some years ago.
setsua25
07-25-2015, 06:33 PM
lol :p i know that, only said it to be silly hehe. Kinda having a laugh at myself for the star ocean comment is all.
Plot twist: Mass Effect 3 was really 2.5 all along.
Forsaken Lover
07-25-2015, 06:57 PM
I don't really agree with that description of the geth.
I believe that quote is from Legion itself. If you show any sort of hesitation about dealing with the Heretics, any "mercy" like "can't we work this out without killing/brainwashing them?" he will make that quote. The Heretics can't be reasoned with.
setsua25
07-25-2015, 07:06 PM
Plot twist: Mass Effect 3 was really 2.5 all along.
haha! I would not be shocked lol.
Mirage
07-25-2015, 07:14 PM
I don't really agree with that description of the geth.
I believe that quote is from Legion itself. If you show any sort of hesitation about dealing with the Heretics, any "mercy" like "can't we work this out without killing/brainwashing them?" he will make that quote. The Heretics can't be reasoned with.
That they can't be reasoned with is accurate enough. That they don't have any fear is a different matter. Even if they don't show it in their tone of voice or facial expressions (they have none), I got the impression that they do have emotions when you went through that internal geth system segment. They can't be 100% rational, or every single geth program would always reach the exact same conclusion, and the whole "consensus" thing would be pointless.
fat_moogle
07-25-2015, 10:44 PM
I never played any of the original trilogy, other than the small section of the Mass Effect 2 demo. I have no intentions of getting them, either.
Is Andromeda or whatever it's called going to be a whole new story? If so I'll start from there.
Mirage
07-26-2015, 09:42 AM
Andromeda has a different main character, different galaxy and probably takes place a long time after the events of ME 1-3. That's a "most likely, yes".
Considering there are some alien races that live for a thousand years and some that aren't even biological life forms, I'm sure you'll run into some characters introduced in 1-3, but they'll probably be re-introduced for new players. And yes I do want to continue my relationship with Liara.
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