Magic: The Gathering

[Zanmato]

I created this thread to talk about the oldest and most succesful TCG in the world.
You can freely share your opinion about it here.

I'm going to invest in it soon, because I'm an TCG/CCG maniac and this game seems very interesting to me, especially after playing Yu-Gi-Oh! and Duel Masters. :P

[Bolivar]

There's something special about Magic that makes it such an enduring game. I actually just picked up some cards to teach my fiance how to play, the new sets are pretty cool.

The video games are great as well and I recommend them to any EoFFer interested in learning.

[Mirage]

I bought a few starter packs and boosters last week, actually. I played it with some borrowed decks some weeks before that.

[Fynn]

I used to play it a lot but I kinda sucked.


I always liked the Pokemon TCG a big better, but it's hard to rival the sheer scope of Magic.

Still have some cards, though. Including a two-player core game. Even got my wife to play it :p

[Mirage]

send me your cards if you don't play anymore.

bring them with you to london next year!

[Fynn]

I don't know of I'll make it!

And I don't know if I want to get rid of them, they have sentimental value!

Also, if I wanted to get rid of them, Id sell them for some good Gil :3:

[Mirage]

i'll give you many gils for them

[Zanmato]

@Mirage - It's great to know a fellow MTG player! May the Magic be with you! :D
@Fynn - I'm gonna play it casually, I hate tournament gaming, though I respect it. :P
@Bolivar - It's great to play with your beloved one and I wish both of you all the best! May the Magic be with you! :D

[Ayen]

I played a bit with my cousins and got swamped. I was more of a Yu-Gi-Oh kid growing up.

[Del Murder]

I'm sure in an alternate dimension I'm really into this but in this dimension I just don't have the time. Also Magic stole eestlinc from us and I'll never forgive it for that!

[Zanmato]

I'm sure in an alternate dimension I'm really into this but in this dimension I just don't have the time. Also Magic stole eestlinc from us and I'll never forgive it for that!

Yeah, time can be cruel, haha! XD
Anyway, it's good to play it from time to time, just for fun. ^^

[theundeadhero]

In the 90's when it was a simpler game I'm sure it was great. I liked to collect some cards because they were cool themselves, but never played much. Now, there's soooo many different cards that do so many different things how can it even be possible to build any kind of competent deck when an opponent deck could have literally anything in it.

[Raistlin]

My college roommate got me into MtG, and I played throughout the rest of college. I had a lot of fun, and even went to a States tournament with a homemade deck that did really well. After college, though, without a good friend to play with, I just lacked the time and energy to devote to it, and ended up selling many of my best cards to a fellow EoFFer.

[Bolivar]

In the 90's when it was a simpler game I'm sure it was great. I liked to collect some cards because they were cool themselves, but never played much. Now, there's soooo many different cards that do so many different things how can it even be possible to build any kind of competent deck when an opponent deck could have literally anything in it.

That can get crazy but at the end of the day, it's a game where every card breaks the rules so you're reading each one anyway to see what it does. There is some imbalance as to certain sets having more powerful cards but other than that, the major themes of red, black, blue, white and green have held constant.

They do account for that in official play, whether in tournaments or just Friday Night Magic. There are different formats and deck requirements, the most common of which limits your deck to cards from the last two expansion cycles and the last core set. That makes it a lot easier to understand the metagame and what decks and play styles are in fashion.

[Zanmato]

In the 90's when it was a simpler game I'm sure it was great. I liked to collect some cards because they were cool themselves, but never played much. Now, there's soooo many different cards that do so many different things how can it even be possible to build any kind of competent deck when an opponent deck could have literally anything in it.

That can get crazy but at the end of the day, it's a game where every card breaks the rules so you're reading each one anyway to see what it does. There is some imbalance as to certain sets having more powerful cards but other than that, the major themes of red, black, blue, white and green have held constant.

They do account for that in official play, whether in tournaments or just Friday Night Magic. There are different formats and deck requirements, the most common of which limits your deck to cards from the last two expansion cycles and the last core set. That makes it a lot easier to understand the metagame and what decks and play styles are in fashion.

Are they gonna make some replacement of Core Sets (which are gone already) for beginners? Because The Deck Builder's Toolkit was a pretty good thing, at least to me. :P

[Bolivar]

Yeah Magic 2015 has a deck builder's tookit, I also picked up one the "Duel Decks" bundles - it gives you two decks which you give a general idea of what each color or deck theme is about, it's also a nice starting point to building your collection and gives you an extra deck to play/learn with a friend.

[Zanmato]

Yeah Magic 2015 has a deck builder's tookit, I also picked up one the "Duel Decks" bundles - it gives you two decks which you give a general idea of what each color or deck theme is about, it's also a nice starting point to building your collection and gives you an extra deck to play/learn with a friend.

Duel Decks are a great option for newbies and casual players, indeed. :3

[escobert]

Ive recently jumped back into MTG. I run a Izzet gizmometry blue/red variant deck for modern and a variant of mindseize for commander. still working on a standard blue/red for Friday night magic. I'm all about the blue/red ;)


I grabbed the Origins deckbuilding toolkit and was pleased.

[Zanmato]

I grabbed the Origins deckbuilding toolkit and was pleased.

I also bought it for myself and I pulled Liliana from Origins booster pack! :D

[Aulayna]

I dabbled in Magic a bit around 1997 but never really got into it. Then I played it a lot from New Phyrexia through to Theros, but then fell out of it again due to the local draft scene fading. Standard was fun but everyone local in Ireland wanted to play Modern which was way too costly for me to try and build a viable deck. Now I occasionally just play Commander using the prebuilt decks they released a couple of years back.

Plus I played Human/Angel decks (very girly) and Angels in particular were pretty rare in Theros.

Innistrad I had mono white Human aggro, which transitioned into a Boros deck with RtR. I also had a fun Selesneya deck with Trostani. I had a couple of gimmick decks too such as a BGW Seance deck and a Mirror-Mad Phantasm/Laboratory Maniac/Seance mill yourself to win deck.

I actually came 3rd in the local sealed deck tournament for Dragons Maze pre-release too, which is like the best I ever did competitively. Normally I'm pretty mediocre.

Although I've probably stopped completely now as there's not much of a scene where I live in France, and also the language barrier too...

I tired Magic Online but just find the UI to be horrible.

[Spuuky]

I tired Magic Online but just find the UI to be horrible.RIP MTGO 2001-2011

[Zanmato]

I dabbled in Magic a bit around 1997 but never really got into it. Then I played it a lot from New Phyrexia through to Theros, but then fell out of it again due to the local draft scene fading. Standard was fun but everyone local in Ireland wanted to play Modern which was way too costly for me to try and build a viable deck. Now I occasionally just play Commander using the prebuilt decks they released a couple of years back.

Plus I played Human/Angel decks (very girly) and Angels in particular were pretty rare in Theros.

Innistrad I had mono white Human aggro, which transitioned into a Boros deck with RtR. I also had a fun Selesneya deck with Trostani. I had a couple of gimmick decks too such as a BGW Seance deck and a Mirror-Mad Phantasm/Laboratory Maniac/Seance mill yourself to win deck.

I actually came 3rd in the local sealed deck tournament for Dragons Maze pre-release too, which is like the best I ever did competitively. Normally I'm pretty mediocre.

Although I've probably stopped completely now as there's not much of a scene where I live in France, and also the language barrier too...

I tired Magic Online but just find the UI to be horrible.

I love Angels in MTG! <3 But why there is no male Angels? O.o

I also love playing Red Aggro and Red/White Mid-range decks generally. :P

As for Magic Online... trust me, it's not as bad as the UI of Cockatrice, but it's the only freeware game which is worth playing.

[Raistlin]

I came in here to post the exact same thing I posted 6 months ago, which I forgot I had posted. So instead I'll talk about my favorite decks.

As I said, I played mostly for a couple of years during college, which for me involved the end of Time Spiral through Shards of Alara blocks, during the Tenth Edition core set. Lorwyn block was the biggest of the era, as it saw the rise of Faeries and 5-color control decks. I never did play Faeries much, though, as that was my roommate's deck and it took me a while to build a sufficient collection of my own. My first deck was mono-green Elves, which was ok. As I got my own cards, I turned it into BG Elves, which was badass. After a (long) while I got bored of it, and so built an entirely homemade BGR midrange deck designed to beat both control and aggro(involving Bitterblossom (http://shop.tcgplayer.com/magic/morningtide/bitterblossom), Sprouting Thrinax (http://shop.tcgplayer.com/magic/shards-of-alara/sprouting-thrinax) and Kitchen Finks (http://shop.tcgplayer.com/magic/modern-masters/kitchen-finks), with end-gamers Profane Command (http://shop.tcgplayer.com/magic/lorwyn/profane-command) and Banefire (http://shop.tcgplayer.com/magic/conflux/banefire)), which I took to a local States tournament and went 5-3.

The deck I played the most after that was probably a BWU Reveillark (http://shop.tcgplayer.com/magic/morningtide/reveillark) deck. There was no fancy Lark combo at this point, so I just crammed in some strong 2/xs like Stillmoon Cavalier (http://shop.tcgplayer.com/magic/eventide/stillmoon-cavalier) with control cards. It was still fun to surprise players with, and I had a good run with it.

[Spuuky]

I love Angels in MTG! <3 But why there is no male Angels? O.oBecause, and this points to a lot of the issues MTG has, male Angels can't have boobs.

[theundeadhero]

Yes they can. They might just be too fat to actually fly.

[Spuuky]

Nope, no one can be fat either, unless they're specifically a Glutton of some kind which makes them black.

[Pete for President]

I'm super new to this but bought my first starter kit a couple months ago as some of my friends are into it and got me involved. I was skeptical at first but I really enjoy it. Even though I don't have any special decks or cards I still manage to win a fair few games. My friends hate how often they have to explain things twice because I get distracted by the amazing artwork on the cards ^^;

[Dr Unne]

I play Magic... rather a lot. My Cube is worth more than my car. =S

I actually won FNM last week (Modern format) using Mono-blue Tron. This deck wins by 1) Blowing up most of opponent's lands with Sundering Titan 2) Controlling all of opponent's turns for the rest of the game with Mindslaver lock, until I manage to make the opponent kill himself or lose by decking 3) Platinum Angel + countering all of opponent's attempts to kill it 4) Casting a Wurmcoil Engine every turn via Academy Ruins. These are fairly miserable ways to lose, but the best part is that this deck isn't actually good. It's a solid tier 2 deck at best. We have a very competitive scene locally, and beating the tier 1 decks with this pile of 5-dollar rares is the most glorious kind of fun. It's good to be a blue mage.


ended up selling many of my best cards to a fellow EoFFer.

<3


Because, and this points to a lot of the issues MTG has, male Angels can't have boobs.

To be fair they've improved compared to the early days of Magic art. They've had a planeswalker in a wheelchair and a trans character recently. There are a lot of exposed man-abs alongside to go with the boob-armor. It seems like they try to put a little something for everyone in the art. (Except fat people.)

[Zanmato]

I love Angels in MTG! <3 But why there is no male Angels? O.oBecause, and this points to a lot of the issues MTG has, male Angels can't have boobs.

Mark Rosewater said that he created female-only Angels intentionally, along with male-only Demons. :P

OK, there's Malach of the Dawn (http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?multiverseid=122481), but he's from an alternative reality (Time Spiral block), so he doesn't really count. :P

[Pete for President]

Reviving this thread because I really got into this over the last couple months. I only play casually with friends and we don't keep track of what is 'legal' in certain game types or whatever. I'm fairly new but I have had some decent success with the little card collection I got. It consisted of a deck builders toolkit, some 15 boosters and a handful of cards bought separately. In my last game I was able to combo Aegis Angel (http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?multiverseid=383160) and a monstrous Hundred-Handed-One (http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Discussion.aspx?multiverseid=373708) to win a 3-way-free-for-all. It was a sweet victory. :D

Tell me more about your favourite decks, combo's, cards, artworks and strategies please :D

[Elly]

i tried it when it first came out, that and Vampire: Jyhad... unfortunately the Taping/Untaping and "summoning sickness" make the game move way too slow for my tastes... that's why i switched to Yu-Gi-Oh! when it came out, because it moved way faster and those unnecessary steps that bogged MTG down were removed, unfortunately YGO fell victim to the "cookie cutter" meta and lost it's fun in the process when everyone started using the same deck... i don't remember much about Vampire: Jyhad except it had some of the prettiest card art...

[Pete for President]

I recently discovered that playing a blue counter deck is really really fun :D

[Zanmato]

i tried it when it first came out, that and Vampire: Jyhad... unfortunately the Taping/Untaping and "summoning sickness" make the game move way too slow for my tastes... that's why i switched to Yu-Gi-Oh! when it came out, because it moved way faster and those unnecessary steps that bogged MTG down were removed, unfortunately YGO fell victim to the "cookie cutter" meta and lost it's fun in the process when everyone started using the same deck... i don't remember much about Vampire: Jyhad except it had some of the prettiest card art...
If you want a game as fast as Yu-Gi-Oh with the system similar to Magic: The Gathering, I recommend you playing Hearthstone. I think you should give it a try.

I was a Yu-Gi-Oh! player, but it's formula made me quit the game.
MTG is a resource-based game (mana system), while in YGO you're casting cards without any cost (sacrificing doesn't really count, since it's a common thing in card games) at all.
This is a big problem because this game is all about casting the strongest cards faster than your opponent can. One-sided matches and OTKs (One Turn Kill) are the common things there.

TL;DR: It's not the greatest, but also not the worst card game. It's just not a game for me.

[escobert]

I recently discovered that playing a blue counter deck is really really fun :D

I've been playing Mono Blue Tron in modern. It's a fun control deck. Unne goes into a bit more detail in his post about it's win cons.

Previously I had been playing a budget version of Affinity. But, I figured I'll never shell out $200 for a play set of Mox Opals or $150 for a play set of Glimmervoids so I gave up on my Affinity dreams.

Also, if you want to look into formats a good one is Pauper. It's mostly played on MTGonline and the decks consist of only cards printed at common. It's a VERY fun format and most decks are in the $50 range.

[qwertysaur]

I played it 10 years ago, good memories. My cousin is a judge for tournaments and he loves it. :p

[Pete for President]

I recently discovered that playing a blue counter deck is really really fun :D

I've been playing Mono Blue Tron in modern. It's a fun control deck. Unne goes into a bit more detail in his post about it's win cons.

Previously I had been playing a budget version of Affinity. But, I figured I'll never shell out $200 for a play set of Mox Opals or $150 for a play set of Glimmervoids so I gave up on my Affinity dreams.

Also, if you want to look into formats a good one is Pauper. It's mostly played on MTGonline and the decks consist of only cards printed at common. It's a VERY fun format and most decks are in the $50 range.


Pauper does sound like fun! I've been putting together decks and it's eating my wallet.

Today or tomorrow another order will arrive containing some materials for a blue/black milling deck. It's my first attempt at one of these so i hope it's going to work!

[escobert]

I recently discovered that playing a blue counter deck is really really fun :D

I've been playing Mono Blue Tron in modern. It's a fun control deck. Unne goes into a bit more detail in his post about it's win cons.

Previously I had been playing a budget version of Affinity. But, I figured I'll never shell out $200 for a play set of Mox Opals or $150 for a play set of Glimmervoids so I gave up on my Affinity dreams.

Also, if you want to look into formats a good one is Pauper. It's mostly played on MTGonline and the decks consist of only cards printed at common. It's a VERY fun format and most decks are in the $50 range.


Pauper does sound like fun! I've been putting together decks and it's eating my wallet.

Today or tomorrow another order will arrive containing some materials for a blue/black milling deck. It's my first attempt at one of these so i hope it's going to work!

Check out these lists for the Pauper meta http://www.mtggoldfish.com/metagame/pauper#online

These are the two Pauper decks I run:
Grixis Death Metal (http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/grixis-deathmetal/)
Rhystic Tron (http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/27-06-16-rhystic-tron/)

And my Modern Deck:
RoboTron (http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/robotron-2/)

[Pete for President]

I recently discovered that playing a blue counter deck is really really fun :D

I've been playing Mono Blue Tron in modern. It's a fun control deck. Unne goes into a bit more detail in his post about it's win cons.

Previously I had been playing a budget version of Affinity. But, I figured I'll never shell out $200 for a play set of Mox Opals or $150 for a play set of Glimmervoids so I gave up on my Affinity dreams.

Also, if you want to look into formats a good one is Pauper. It's mostly played on MTGonline and the decks consist of only cards printed at common. It's a VERY fun format and most decks are in the $50 range.


Pauper does sound like fun! I've been putting together decks and it's eating my wallet.

Today or tomorrow another order will arrive containing some materials for a blue/black milling deck. It's my first attempt at one of these so i hope it's going to work!

Check out these lists for the Pauper meta http://www.mtggoldfish.com/metagame/pauper#online

These are the two Pauper decks I run:
Grixis Death Metal (http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/grixis-deathmetal/)
Rhystic Tron (http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/27-06-16-rhystic-tron/)

And my Modern Deck:
RoboTron (http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/robotron-2/)

Wowa that's some big things happening in the RoboTron deck. How does it cope with aggro?

This is the milling-type deck I have taped together:
http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/manic-scribbles/

It's purpose is to get the Manic Scribes out, mill myself to get the delirium active, defend with all defenders and then go to town with milling the opponent. When there's a bunch of land cards in the graveyards the Centaur Vinecrasher can become beastly, although honestly I have yet to trample someone to death with those. Most of the time the milling is a greater threat than my creatures. The deck is not doing too well at this point, it seems to get countered very easily (by Learn From The Past for example) and I have no sustain for life whatsoever.

Today I did have a fun combo with the Wild-Field Scarecrows, the Forgotten Creation and the Centaur Vinecrasher. Late game I sacrificed the Scarecrows, fetched the four lands adding up to the lands I had already saved in my hand and drew 6 new cards on my upkeep due to the Forgotten Creation's ability and made the Centaur Vinecrasher that much stronger. Fun times.

My other decks are pretty much simple beatdown ones so it's fun to play this deck in a different playstyle. It's way harder to play it in comparison. Maybe that's also why it hasn't done too well just yet.

[escobert]

I recently discovered that playing a blue counter deck is really really fun :D

I've been playing Mono Blue Tron in modern. It's a fun control deck. Unne goes into a bit more detail in his post about it's win cons.

Previously I had been playing a budget version of Affinity. But, I figured I'll never shell out $200 for a play set of Mox Opals or $150 for a play set of Glimmervoids so I gave up on my Affinity dreams.

Also, if you want to look into formats a good one is Pauper. It's mostly played on MTGonline and the decks consist of only cards printed at common. It's a VERY fun format and most decks are in the $50 range.


Pauper does sound like fun! I've been putting together decks and it's eating my wallet.

Today or tomorrow another order will arrive containing some materials for a blue/black milling deck. It's my first attempt at one of these so i hope it's going to work!

Check out these lists for the Pauper meta http://www.mtggoldfish.com/metagame/pauper#online

These are the two Pauper decks I run:
Grixis Death Metal (http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/grixis-deathmetal/)
Rhystic Tron (http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/27-06-16-rhystic-tron/)

And my Modern Deck:
RoboTron (http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/robotron-2/)

Wowa that's some big things happening in the RoboTron deck. How does it cope with aggro?

This is the milling-type deck I have taped together:
http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/manic-scribbles/

It's purpose is to get the Manic Scribes out, mill myself to get the delirium active, defend with all defenders and then go to town with milling the opponent. When there's a bunch of land cards in the graveyards the Centaur Vinecrasher can become beastly, although honestly I have yet to trample someone to death with those. Most of the time the milling is a greater threat than my creatures. The deck is not doing too well at this point, it seems to get countered very easily (by Learn From The Past for example) and I have no sustain for life whatsoever.

Today I did have a fun combo with the Wild-Field Scarecrows, the Forgotten Creation and the Centaur Vinecrasher. Late game I sacrificed the Scarecrows, fetched the four lands adding up to the lands I had already saved in my hand and drew 6 new cards on my upkeep due to the Forgotten Creation's ability and made the Centaur Vinecrasher that much stronger. Fun times.

My other decks are pretty much simple beatdown ones so it's fun to play this deck in a different playstyle. It's way harder to play it in comparison. Maybe that's also why it hasn't done too well just yet.

Counters, Chalice of the Void, Oblivion Stone and Ugin all help vs aggro but, aggro is the weakest match-up for the deck.

This is the deck in action. Well, a version of it that runs pretty much the same cards as mine with a few differences.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EbalAiY0lbI&t=1904s


For your deck, if you really wanna mill I'd suggest Curse of the Bloody Tome (http://tappedout.net/mtg-card/curse-of-the-bloody-tome/) and Jace's Erasure (http://tappedout.net/mtg-card/jaces-erasure/) would help.

[Fatal Impurity]

So who's going to the prerelease this weekend? What are your thoughts on this set? Better or worse than Shadows over Innistrad?

[escobert]

Probably should be in General gaming (We have a magic thread in there)

I don't go to prereleases, as I do the vast majority of my playing online. I am excited for Eldritch moon as two of my decks are going to be trying some new cards out. I'm looking at Imprisoned in the Moon (http://tappedout.net/mtg-card/imprisoned-in-the-moon/) for my Mono Blue Tron, Spontaneous Mutation (http://tappedout.net/mtg-card/spontaneous-mutation/) and Wretched Gryff (http://tappedout.net/mtg-card/wretched-gryff/) for my Pauper Rhystic Tron deck.

[Fatal Impurity]

What do you think of Bedlem Reveler for Delver decks? Do you think it has the potential to be a Treasure Cruise + Body consistently enough?

[escobert]

I think he can work well as a 2 of. I'd love to play Grixis Delver in Modern but I I can't shell out the money for it. I haven't played Delver in anything for a while now.

[Fatal Impurity]

I played Grixis Delver at the WMCQ in Birmingham, didn't do too well but it's a fun deck with lots of play to it. I had to borrow the Scalding Tarn's and a couple of snapcasters from a friend but other than that I was set.

[escobert]

I just stick with mono blue tron. I may get Affinity some day. I play Grixis in Pauper and EDH.

[Dr Unne]

So who's going to the prerelease this weekend? What are your thoughts on this set? Better or worse than Shadows over Innistrad?

I went 0-2 drop, but the set seems fun. Better than most recent sets. I like complicated sets where the archetypes aren't braindead obvious. The first Innistrad block was basically the best draft format I can remember.


Wowa that's some big things happening in the RoboTron deck. How does it cope with aggro?

Rather poorly sometimes. It's not a great deck if your metagame is heavy aggro. My metagame is often heavy on midrange and other control decks, and U-Tron is great for that. One reason Tron is fun is because every game is a puzzle called "How can I stay alive for a few more turns?". The recent printing of Spatial Contortion (http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?multiverseid=407518) helped a lot; we used to have to eat 4 damage from Dismember (http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?multiverseid=397830) when playing aggro, which wasn't ideal.

The Affinity matchup is OK; if they go for the make-one-guy-huge plan, you can Repeal them all day long, and Hurkyl's Recall is a good card. Burn is so-so depending on how fast of a draw they get. I usually do well vs Bogles and Infect although logic says I shouldn't. (Chalice of the Void is a pretty good card, it turns out.) Merfolk is basically unwinnable, so hope no one plays that. I like Aetherize (http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?multiverseid=405119) in the sideboard in many matchups.

One sad thing is that RG Tron recently went from an even matchup to nearly unbeatable, because of all the stupid on-cast triggers from the recent Eldrazi. =/

[escobert]

One sad thing is that RG Tron recently went from an even matchup to nearly unbeatable, because of all the stupid on-cast triggers from the recent Eldrazi. =/

Ugh I hate Eldrazi. I feel dirty using Ulamog's Crusher in Rhystic Tron and I'll be adding in Wretched Gryff once EMN hits.

[Pete for President]

For your deck, if you really wanna mill I'd suggest Curse of the Bloody Tome (http://tappedout.net/mtg-card/curse-of-the-bloody-tome/) and Jace's Erasure (http://tappedout.net/mtg-card/jaces-erasure/) would help.

Thanks for the suggestions! I looked at both those cards when planning/buying my cards but eventually chose the 1 mana costing mill cards like tome scour, shriekhorn and dream twist just because they can start the mill on turn one and i can use them on myself to help trigger delirium for the manic scribes. Also i play 3-way free for all a lot with my two housemates and i think curse of the bloody tome would be less optimal for that. As for jace's erasure, i did order that card (thought only 1 was available) to run it alongside the Honden of Seeing Winds and Honden of Night's Reach, but those shrines are just too slow to get rolling and i opted for more defenders instead.

I also don't like eldrazi. Being colourless just makes them a soulless additions to the game for me. Devoid as a mechanic is just as lame imo, i just really like the colours and their themes.

My housemates and i will draft eldritch moon next week!

[escobert]

I love artifacts so, I can't hate on them being colorless. But, their ETB effects and sheer power are just crazy and can be GG just for playing them. I suppose same can be said for a lot of Plainswalkers too.

[Pete for President]

I love artifacts so, I can't hate on them being colorless. But, their ETB effects and sheer power are just crazy and can be GG just for playing them. I suppose same can be said for a lot of Plainswalkers too.

Ooh I guess I worded my last comment wrong. I love artifacts too even though they are colourless but it makes sense because they're material I guess. Colourless creatures or sorceries just don't appeal to me.

Edit: My housemate plays black discard with Despise, Duress and sacrificable Black Cats and it's the most annoying thing :nonono:

[escobert]

lol, I use Duress in my Grixis Pauper deck. Thoughtseize (http://tappedout.net/mtg-card/thoughtseize/) and Inquisition of Kozilek (http://tappedout.net/mtg-card/inquisition-of-kozilek/) are worse though. I use Warping Wail (http://tappedout.net/mtg-card/warping-wail/) and Spacial Contortion (http://tappedout.net/mtg-card/spatial-contortion/) in Mono Blue Tron which are none artifact colorless spells since the Urza lands tap for colorless mana.

[Pete for President]

All of those discard cards are nasty :ohdear:

Here's a mono white aura deck I've been working on. I haven't actually obtained the Mesa Enchantress and Bonds of Faith cards yet but they will arrive next week. Eventually I want to replace the Lagonna Band Trailblazers with more Favored Hoplites. It's got a pretty silly mana curve but with some card drawing spells I think it should be ok!

http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/mono-white-auras-4/

[escobert]

All of those discard cards are nasty :ohdear:

Here's a mono white aura deck I've been working on. I haven't actually obtained the Mesa Enchantress and Bonds of Faith cards yet but they will arrive next week. Eventually I want to replace the Lagonna Band Trailblazers with more Favored Hoplites. It's got a pretty silly mana curve but with some card drawing spells I think it should be ok!

http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/mono-white-auras-4/

I would try and consolidate down some of the 1 of's, and check out Ethereal Armor (http://tappedout.net/mtg-card/ethereal-armor/).

[Pete for President]

All of those discard cards are nasty :ohdear:

Here's a mono white aura deck I've been working on. I haven't actually obtained the Mesa Enchantress and Bonds of Faith cards yet but they will arrive next week. Eventually I want to replace the Lagonna Band Trailblazers with more Favored Hoplites. It's got a pretty silly mana curve but with some card drawing spells I think it should be ok!

http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/mono-white-auras-4/

I would try and consolidate down some of the 1 of's, and check out Ethereal Armor (http://tappedout.net/mtg-card/ethereal-armor/).

Thanks! I should probably get some of those!

Last time we drafted SOI I managed to scavenge lots of wolves/werewolves but never turned it into anything. I had a mono red haste aggro deck lying around, tore it apart and combined half of it with the werewolves and I had so much fun playing it last night. The transform mechanic is so much fun, and i basically only rock instants and enchantments with flash so i am able to skip turns and transform them. We are drafting eldritch moon next week so here's hoping for some wolf related cards!

[escobert]

All of those discard cards are nasty :ohdear:

Here's a mono white aura deck I've been working on. I haven't actually obtained the Mesa Enchantress and Bonds of Faith cards yet but they will arrive next week. Eventually I want to replace the Lagonna Band Trailblazers with more Favored Hoplites. It's got a pretty silly mana curve but with some card drawing spells I think it should be ok!

http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/mono-white-auras-4/

I would try and consolidate down some of the 1 of's, and check out Ethereal Armor (http://tappedout.net/mtg-card/ethereal-armor/).

Thanks! I should probably get some of those!

Last time we drafted SOI I managed to scavenge lots of wolves/werewolves but never turned it into anything. I had a mono red haste aggro deck lying around, tore it apart and combined half of it with the werewolves and I had so much fun playing it last night. The transform mechanic is so much fun, and i basically only rock instants and enchantments with flash so i am able to skip turns and transform them. We are drafting eldritch moon next week so here's hoping for some wolf related cards!

I've yet to do any drafting, I play Modern, Pauper and EDH/Commander. The best flip card is Delver of Secrets of course :p

[Pete for President]

Delver of Secrets looks powerful indeed! But for $3 here in New Zealand I'm not going to buy any :p

Our Eldritch Moon fat pack for drafting should arrive tomorrow, I can't wait :D Really hoping to find an Ulrich of the Krallenhorde (http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Ulrich+of+the+Krallenhorde) in there for my wolves thing.

Do any of you guys play on Android? I haven't downloaded the game on there yet but could do if any of you guys are up for games.

[Pete for President]

Did the draft thing last night. Opened an insane pack containing both a Decimator of the Provinces (http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?multiverseid=414291) and a foil Grim Flayer (http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?multiverseid=414489). The Grim Flayer was probably worth a lot more but I could only choose one before passing it on and chose the boar instead.

[escobert]

Nice! I'd love to try drafting out. I've been thinking of maybe picking up a box of Dragons of Tahrkir to draft with Bri.

[escobert]

Oh, and if you're interested in Milling and getting into Pauper check this deck out: TurboFog Mill (http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/pauper-turbofog-mill/)

[Pete for President]

Drafting is a lot of fun! We have been going with 3 booster packs each to pass along and make 40 card decks, but i would actually recommend going for a few more packs and make 60 card decks. With 40 the games were kinda repetitive.

That mill deck is really cool for having barely any creatures. I might make an experiment like that here!

[escobert]

That mill deck is really cool for having barely any creatures. I might make an experiment like that here!

There's UB Teachings that has no creatures mainboard :p

[Pete for President]

Bit of a rant here but i finally discovered why there are modes like legacy, modern and standard etc. As a fairly new player all my cards are basically Theros block and newer. Recently i found out a friend of mine from the seasonal job i work at right now played mtg and we've playing once every two weeks or so. He plays legacy though, and at first it was pretty fun to see his wacky combo's and shenanigans. But now that we've played a bunch i realised i'm not actually having fun playing against him anymore. It's one thing not being able to keep up with the tempo but sitting through a 10 minute turn while looping through his entire library on some endless mana generation and card draw combo looking for the kill condition is just plain boring. Maybe i'll suggest going to pauper!

[escobert]

Heh, wait till you see the Blue/Red Drake deck that's rampaging through Pauper right now. Peregrine Drake (http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?multiverseid=5671) should get banned next month but it's been interesting since Eternal Masters dropped. It creates a endless loop with Archaeomancer (http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?multiverseid=380252) and Ghostly Flicker (http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?multiverseid=240101) to generate extra mana until they can kill you with Rolling Thunder (http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?multiverseid=402015).

[Bri]

I started playing MTG last year thanks to Escobert. I mostly play white. Bert bought me a green and white Bogle deck so can't wait to try it out!

[escobert]

I started playing MTG last year thanks to Escobert. I mostly play white. Bert bought me a green and white Bogle deck so can't wait to try it out!

And I hope you like it!

I've been playing a infinite mana combo the last couple days called Freed from the Real (http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/17-08-16-freed-from-the-real/). It's really fun and it's pretty consistent. I can usually have the combo ready by turn 5.

[escobert]

So, I think I'm going to abandon Modern and give Legacy a shot. R/W Imperial Painter here I come!

This (http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/painters-servent-2/) is the deck I plan on building. It'll take some time to get it together. It's cool since it's main win con is combo (Painter's Servant + Gindstone) where you turn EVERY card in the game a color (usually Blue) and then use Grindstone to mill your opponents deck to nothing and they lose. It uses Red Elemental Blast and Pyroblast to be able to counter or destroy anything since they target blue spells and permanents. It also uses Blood Moons to turn all non basic lands to Mountains shutting down a lot of Legacy builds. If all that fails you can beat your opponent down with an army of 2/2s. So it can combo, control and aggro if needed. I love versatility.

[Pete for President]

So, I think I'm going to abandon Modern and give Legacy a shot. R/W Imperial Painter here I come!

This (http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/painters-servent-2/) is the deck I plan on building. It'll take some time to get it together. It's cool since it's main win con is combo (Painter's Servant + Gindstone) where you turn EVERY card in the game a color (usually Blue) and then use Grindstone to mill your opponents deck to nothing and they lose. It uses Red Elemental Blast and Pyroblast to be able to counter or destroy anything since they target blue spells and permanents. It also uses Blood Moons to turn all non basic lands to Mountains shutting down a lot of Legacy builds. If all that fails you can beat your opponent down with an army of 2/2s. So it can combo, control and aggro if needed. I love versatility.

That's a cool idea! On what turn could the combo be complete?

This is probably my most succesful deck atm: http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/mono-white-human-auras-1/

It gets destroyed by bounce and sweepers though.

[escobert]

Depending on opening hand, you can have it on turn 3. It plays Ancient Tombs and City of Traitors which both tap for 2 colorless mana. So, you could play Mountain + Grindstone turn one. turn two play City/Tomb and Painter naming Blue. Turn 3 activate Grindstone for win. It plays Imperial Recruiter and Enlightened Tutor to be able to grab the combo pieces or anything else really that is needed. Another win con I have is to cheat a Blightsteel Colossus with Nahri, The Harbinger that gives it haste. So a 11/11 infect/trample/indestructible with haste :D

I started looking into the deck when Kaladesh Inventions got spoiled and Painter's Servant (my Sig/Av) was one of the cards. I loved the art right away and then saw how sweet the deck based around it looked.

the biggest downside of the deck is it's cost. Imperial Recruiters are around $200 a piece and City of Traitors are $150 or so a piece. So that right there in the 3 copies of each I need is over a grand. the rest of the deck can be had for around $800

[Pete for President]

I've been playing Magic 2015 on Android. It works way better than expected and they throw a lot of boosters at you after every campaign duel. Perfect for keeping the magic going while travelling. I've made this green/blue/white control/ramp deck that isn't very focussed but does fun things.

Online multiplayer works ok but people tend to disconnect a lot when things don't go their way.