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fat_moogle
07-11-2015, 02:50 PM
WHY DOES LE BLANC TAKE ON YUNA'S PHYSICAL FORM?

Dress Spheres are preserved memories of people who wore said garment years ago, but they don't actually change physical form (except for the unique special garments for YRP).

And even if it DID change your physical form then surely Le Blanc would have looked like Lenne?

FLAWED.

Ayen
07-11-2015, 02:59 PM
I always wondered about that personally, since it happens once and they never bring it up again.

They just wanted Yuna to shake her booty.

fat_moogle
07-11-2015, 04:15 PM
Glad I'm not the only one!

Did SE just expect us to overlook the whole thing? xD

Fynn
07-11-2015, 04:55 PM
Of course they do.

The game is stupid and knows it.

Mirage
07-11-2015, 05:15 PM
She stole the entire garment grid, that's why.

Fynn
07-11-2015, 05:49 PM
She stole the entire garment grid, that's why.

That would mean YRP should take on the form of whomever was the previous owner of their Garment Grids.

It really doesn't make sense. But it doesn't have to, IMO :p

Mirage
07-11-2015, 06:56 PM
For all we know, they might be custom made for each person, or at least modified.

Although what I really think happened is that she became similar enough to pass for yuna, but the developers didn't bother with making another 3d model that looked like almost-yuna just for a single video.

fat_moogle
07-11-2015, 07:24 PM
She became similar enough to pass as Yuna because they just used Yuna's model. They even introduce her as Yuna with her name on screen. Even though it was actually Le Blanc at the time.

Fynn
07-11-2015, 07:27 PM
It's a stupid plot hole, no matter how you look at it.

And really, so is the whole game. Which is why I love it.

Mirage
07-11-2015, 07:28 PM
She became similar enough to pass as Yuna because they just used Yuna's model. They even introduce her as Yuna with her name on screen. Even though it was actually Le Blanc at the time.

You didn't get my point, it seems :p

Ayen
07-11-2015, 07:32 PM
She became similar enough to pass as Yuna because they just used Yuna's model. They even introduce her as Yuna with her name on screen. Even though it was actually Le Blanc at the time.

Faux Yuna just doesn't have the same ring to it.

Sephiroth
07-11-2015, 07:36 PM
Better question would be why she did that concert in the first place. There was no actual purpose.

Fynn
07-11-2015, 07:37 PM
To be fair, they introduce her as "Yuna?"

Ayen
07-11-2015, 07:39 PM
There was a question mark?

All these years spent watching that opening for scientific purposes, and I never noticed.

Fynn
07-11-2015, 07:39 PM
It's a watermark in the background.

Mirage
07-11-2015, 07:42 PM
Better question would be why she did that concert in the first place. There was no actual purpose.

Making money, of course.

Fynn
07-11-2015, 07:43 PM
I thought the canon answer was because she just wanted to have fun.

Seriously, Leblanc is like 5

Ayen
07-11-2015, 07:45 PM
That whole villain dynamic is Final Fantasy's version of Team Rocket. I was just waiting for them to say, "Prepare for trouble!"

"And make it double."

Sephiroth
07-11-2015, 08:31 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MDQxs__0tg0

There you can see the ? at around 1:35.

Ayen
07-11-2015, 08:34 PM
It goes by pretty quick. No wonder I never caught it before.

fat_moogle
07-11-2015, 09:50 PM
Better question would be why she did that concert in the first place. There was no actual purpose.

Making money, of course.
Yeah. It's a shame that we as players didn't get some cut of her concert takings :D


That whole villain dynamic is Final Fantasy's version of Team Rocket. I was just waiting for them to say, "Prepare for trouble!"

"And make it double."
Now I'm gutted that Team Rocket weren't in this game :(


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MDQxs__0tg0

There you can see the ? at around 1:35.
Very well spotted. Never noticed that!

Still doesnt explain why she looks like Yuna though :p

Mirage
07-11-2015, 10:44 PM
I think it's because they didn't want to spend time making a high-res model of someone who looked like a mix of leblanc and yuna, and just reused the existing yuna model.

Forsaken Lover
07-12-2015, 01:47 AM
Life is full of mysteries.

I for one wish to examine the plotholes and inconsistencies with Cloud crossdressing. Now he's very pretty in Advent Children but in FFVII Cloud seemed pretty masculine so I have no idea how anyone was fooled. The goons you get stuck with if you don't "win" even comment on how ripped he is.

And what was up with Zell's hoverboard? It was never seen again.

Ayen
07-12-2015, 06:38 AM
That whole villain dynamic is Final Fantasy's version of Team Rocket. I was just waiting for them to say, "Prepare for trouble!"

"And make it double."
Now I'm gutted that Team Rocket weren't in this game :(

They're too good for it.

Forsaken Lover
07-12-2015, 06:44 AM
That whole villain dynamic is Final Fantasy's version of Team Rocket. I was just waiting for them to say, "Prepare for trouble!"

"And make it double."
Now I'm gutted that Team Rocket weren't in this game :(

They're too good for it.

mIdaTR1dI7M

Pumpkin
07-12-2015, 06:50 AM
I did notice the question mark! And yeah I always wondered about this but I figured it was for drama sake and the whole game doesn't take itself the most seriously so I didn't care so much :shrug:

Fynn
07-12-2015, 06:52 AM
Life is full of mysteries.

I for one wish to examine the plotholes and inconsistencies with Cloud crossdressing. Now he's very pretty in Advent Children but in FFVII Cloud seemed pretty masculine so I have no idea how anyone was fooled. The goons you get stuck with if you don't "win" even comment on how ripped he is.

And what was up with Zell's hoverboard? It was never seen again.

Have you seen what makeup can do?

http://www.details.com/blogs/daily-details/details-paolo-ballesteros-makeup-2015-lead.jpg

Shauna
07-12-2015, 11:10 AM
Later on Yuna assumes the look of Lenne, iirc. Maybe there's ~something~ going on. Nothing that ever gets an explanation, of course.

Formalhaut
07-13-2015, 05:01 PM
It's not explained, but I don't care because I'm busying listening to cheesy J-pop and seeing Rikku and Paine kick the crap out of guards.

Fynn
07-13-2015, 05:06 PM
It's not explained, but I don't care because I'm busying listening to cheesy J-pop and seeing Rikku and Paine kick the crap out of guards.

That's it. That's the game.

Formalhaut
07-13-2015, 05:29 PM
Who'd have thought such simple concepts could be so satisfying?

Pumpkin
07-13-2015, 05:31 PM
It really is such a fun game. I was excited for it since I first heard about it before it was released

"All female characters? DIFFERENT OUTFITS?!?!?!"

10 year old Pumpkin was quite excite

Jinx
07-13-2015, 06:23 PM
this thread is making me irl mad

Shauna
07-13-2015, 06:28 PM
Calm yourself, Jinx. FFX-2 is great.

Jinx
07-13-2015, 06:47 PM
ffx2 is great this scene is not mrs cabbage

Fynn
07-13-2015, 06:50 PM
It still has fewer plot holes then the entirety of FFX.

Oh yes, I went there! :p

https://localtvwnep.files.wordpress.com/2012/12/shots_fired.jpg

Shauna
07-13-2015, 06:53 PM
ffx2 is great this scene is not mrs cabbage

It sets up the game for exactly what you should expect!

And I'll thank you to call me Mildred. :colbert:

Fynn
07-13-2015, 06:56 PM
FFX-2 is dumb and that's why we love it.

fat_moogle
07-13-2015, 07:01 PM
It's not explained, but I don't care because I'm busying listening to cheesy J-pop and seeing Rikku and Paine kick the crap out of guards.

That's it. That's the game.
Not going to lie: I love Real Emotion xD

Fynn
07-13-2015, 07:09 PM
It's not explained, but I don't care because I'm busying listening to cheesy J-pop and seeing Rikku and Paine kick the crap out of guards.

That's it. That's the game.
Not going to lie: I love Real Emotion xD

It's okay. We all do.

Dat Matt
07-13-2015, 07:10 PM
Something something pyreflies, something something plotholes

Jinx
07-13-2015, 07:15 PM
ffx2 is great this scene is not mrs cabbage

It sets up the game for exactly what you should expect!

And I'll thank you to call me Mildred. :colbert:

i'm sorry i just don't think we're well acquainted enough to use our christian names

fat_moogle
07-13-2015, 08:06 PM
ffx2 is great this scene is not mrs cabbage

It sets up the game for exactly what you should expect!

What was expected: Songstress to sing in battle

What we got: "Lala, la la, la la la!"

Ayen
07-13-2015, 08:09 PM
It still has fewer plot holes then the entirety of FFX.

Oh yes, I went there! :p

https://localtvwnep.files.wordpress.com/2012/12/shots_fired.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/WIJaC0f.gif

Mirage
07-13-2015, 11:31 PM
real emotion sucks, 1k words is where it's at

Forsaken Lover
07-14-2015, 02:06 AM
1000 Words is no doubt a better song but real Emotion is danceable. We can all dance and be ashamed of ourselves when we start X-2 and that is really what the game is about.

I always wanted to get, like, the album those songs are. The English versions I mea. They actually are on CDs released by the....German I think it was English vocalist. Japan loves female European pop singers.

Ayen
07-14-2015, 02:07 AM
I'll dance, but I will feel no shame.

Fynn
07-14-2015, 06:46 AM
There's no such thing as guilty pleasure.