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Colonel Angus
08-20-2015, 05:01 PM
Who would you like to see as the next President of the United States? Would you like to see Hillary Clinton as the first female President? Or do you think it's time for another change, and want a more Socialist President like Bernie Sanders? Or maybe you like someone from the Republican Clown Car, like Billionaire Ringleader Donald Trump?

Pumpkin
08-20-2015, 05:03 PM
Beef jerky. Always beef jerky

Pheesh
08-20-2015, 05:07 PM
weAopdKILLw

EDIT: NSFW language

Laddy
08-20-2015, 05:10 PM
I'm extremely disappointed the sleeper contender Deez Nuts has not been mentioned. :colbert:

Aerith's Knight
08-20-2015, 05:28 PM
I would vote for magic 8-ball. At least they would make the right decisions some of the time.

Not to mention, you can't bribe them! Well, inconsistently, at least.

"Hey, uh, 8-ball sir. We have a deal right? *shuffles envelope of money*

"Try again later."

Psychotic
08-20-2015, 06:31 PM
The Onion, as always, is right.

http://i.imgur.com/nPjcDFX.jpg

escobert
08-20-2015, 07:20 PM
Ron Paul > all. F Bernie Sanders.

Slothy
08-20-2015, 10:54 PM
Ron Paul > all. F Bernie Sanders.

Sometimes Ron Paul says some very smart things. And then other times he's as stupid as every other Republican. Still head and shoulders above any of the usual Republican nut jobs though. And less of a hypocrite than his son.

Colonel Angus
08-20-2015, 11:53 PM
I'm extremely disappointed the sleeper contender Deez Nuts has not been mentioned. :colbert:
Deez nuts had yet to exist when this poll was created. #sneakpeekbehindthescene

Psycho, you say that because you don't have to live w/ him as President.

NeoCracker
08-21-2015, 01:09 AM
Your lack of inclusion of any third party candidates currently running in favor of nothing but the main party's is telling of your complacency in the problems facing our electoral system.

Freya
08-21-2015, 01:44 AM
Rabble rabble politics rabble!

Pheesh
08-21-2015, 02:12 AM
Is that "The Rent is too Damn High!" guy still around? He was awesome.

Colonel Angus
08-21-2015, 02:13 AM
Your lack of inclusion of any third party candidates currently running in favor of nothing but the main party's is telling of your complacency in the problems facing our electoral system.

I dinnae know who's running.


Rabble rabble politics rabble!
http://i.imgur.com/3TIWj.gif

Bri
08-21-2015, 07:38 PM
Dr. Ben Carson all the wayyyy!!

Night Fury
08-21-2015, 08:09 PM
Amy Poehler's Hilary Clinton.

Shiny
08-21-2015, 08:56 PM
The Onion, as always, is right.

http://i.imgur.com/nPjcDFX.jpg

Honestly?



Yes.

Honestly?

No.

Why would I want another rich white dude as president?

Colonel Angus
08-21-2015, 11:06 PM
I think the whole Trump candidacy is all some kind of screwy bet between he & Regis Philbin. He probably bet that no matter how f'ed up the things he says are, he could still become President.

Hollycat
08-22-2015, 11:21 AM
The number of people who made the right choice made me smile.

Rin Heartilly
08-22-2015, 02:07 PM
Where is deez nuts...? I'm Australian so I have no idea who half any of those people are lmao

Shiny
08-22-2015, 09:37 PM
The Onion, as always, is right.

http://i.imgur.com/nPjcDFX.jpg

Honestly?



Yes.

Honestly?

No.

Why would I want another rich white dude as president?

You misunderstand. I don't want him as president. I'm just going off of what that title said--I'm curious to see how far he gets, how far it goes. It makes me weep in despair he's currently the front runner, but you can't say there's no entertainment value (including hate-watching) with his antics.

I didn't say you want him as president I said I don't. I find nothing entertaining about any of this. It's actually terrifying. If people don't take the presidential election seriously they deserve a terrible president.

Colonel Angus
08-23-2015, 02:37 AM
The Onion, as always, is right.

http://i.imgur.com/nPjcDFX.jpg

Honestly?



Yes.

Honestly?

No.

Why would I want another rich white dude as president?

You misunderstand. I don't want him as president. I'm just going off of what that title said--I'm curious to see how far he gets, how far it goes. It makes me weep in despair he's currently the front runner, but you can't say there's no entertainment value (including hate-watching) with his antics.

I didn't say you want him as president I said I don't. I find nothing entertaining about any of this. It's actually terrifying. If people don't take the presidential election seriously they deserve a terrible president.
I heard he spoke in Alabama & it pretty much turned into a "White Power Rally". He's becoming more & more dangerous. Unfortunately, no one in the media will call him out for it. They're still playing this like the circus it is, but it's only a matter of time that the lions break loose and it becomes a catastrophe.

Tyson
08-23-2015, 03:14 PM
The Onion, as always, is right.

http://i.imgur.com/nPjcDFX.jpg

Honestly?



Yes.

TRUMP FOR PRESIDENT!......simply for the sake of comedy haha.

Realistically tho I have always despised the Republican party in U.S politics. So as long as it's not Trump or Bush(shudder) I'll be happy

escobert
08-23-2015, 03:56 PM
The Onion, as always, is right.

http://i.imgur.com/nPjcDFX.jpg

Honestly?



Yes.

Honestly?

No.

Why would I want another rich white dude as president?

You misunderstand. I don't want him as president. I'm just going off of what that title said--I'm curious to see how far he gets, how far it goes. It makes me weep in despair he's currently the front runner, but you can't say there's no entertainment value (including hate-watching) with his antics.

I didn't say you want him as president I said I don't. I find nothing entertaining about any of this. It's actually terrifying. If people don't take the presidential election seriously they deserve a terrible president.

Right, because we get such great ones when people do "take it seriously" :p

Formalhaut
08-23-2015, 04:39 PM
So Escobert, what is so bad about Bernie Sanders? I'm genuinely curious, not being American.

Fynn
08-23-2015, 04:47 PM
So Escobert, what is so bad about Bernie Sanders? I'm genuinely curious, not being American.

Really. I have never hoped someone would win the US elections so much as I'm rooting for Bernie right now.

Del Murder
08-23-2015, 06:14 PM
I signed up to campaign for Bernie Sanders yesterday. I've never contributed time or money to a political campaign in my life.

Psychotic
08-23-2015, 07:28 PM
I signed up to campaign for Bernie Sanders yesterday. I've never contributed time or money to a political campaign in my life.That's awesome. I would also like to encourage anyone who voted for him in the poll to do the same - Clinton has the support of big business and wealthy donors so Bernie Sanders needs all the grass roots support he can get to stand a chance.

escobert
08-23-2015, 09:13 PM
So Escobert, what is so bad about Bernie Sanders? I'm genuinely curious, not being American.

He's a self professed socialist who has never held a real job. He also says he's from Vermont which he most certainly is not.

and bernie doesn't need any help on the campaign trial. The unions have backed him which is bigger money than a lot of candidates.

Del Murder
08-23-2015, 09:35 PM
You do know he's currently a US Senator right?

Edit: replying to bert

Slothy
08-24-2015, 01:20 AM
He's a self professed socialist

Which isn't actually a problem considering almost every country that's a social democracy has been doing better than the US in almost every measure for years now. Well, except measures like income inequality, number of prisoners incarcerated, murder rate, and people going bankrupt due to a lack of adequate healthcare coverage, but you're more than welcome to remain ahead of us in those categories.


who has never held a real job.

Can someone explain to me why being a Mayor and Senator don't count as real jobs? Being paid money to run towns and make law as a senator isn't important? Somehow it's less desirable than someone who worked a regular old 9-5 for a corporation or small business? Perhaps more importantly, how would working a so-called "real job," prepare someone for working in politics or being President? There's no mysterious knowledge to be gleaned from it that can't be found anywhere else. Not to mention having actual experience in legislature is probably a good thing for a President to have. Hell, plenty of President's do before they win and they still cock things up. And running government like a for profit business as some Republicans seem bent on advocating would be a terrible idea. It's not a business and shouldn't run like one. And even if we judge it on those grounds, the Republicans have historically been pretty damn awful economically. Unless you think out of control budget deficits is a good thing, which you shouldn't if you want government run more like a business.

And for the record, the man was about 37 years old when he entered politics. And it wasn't for another ten years that he even held any political office. If you're suggesting someone who had a six or seven year gap between his finishing University and starting in politics never had a real job then I'll call bulltrout on that one. Just because you don't know what he did doesn't mean his employment history begins when he started running for political offices.


He also says he's from Vermont which he most certainly is not.

I'm pretty sure since he's been there since 1968 we can probably let that slide. I say I'm from the city and province I live in now, largely because I've been here longer than the other places I've lived combined and I never actually felt any connection to the others. Big whoop.


and bernie doesn't need any help on the campaign trial. The unions have backed him which is bigger money than a lot of candidates.

If you believe the unions have provided him with more campaign money than someone like Hilary Clinton, or most of the Republican candidates have received from actual billionaires I'm fairly certain that is objectively false. Perhaps someone knows where to find the numbers on that. I remember seeing them somewhere but I don't have the time to hunt for them right now.

So do you have any actual problems with him or is this it?

DMKA
08-24-2015, 02:03 AM
The Onion, as always, is right.

http://i.imgur.com/nPjcDFX.jpg

It's true. I would never want him anywhere near the white house (or any state house, for that matter) but damn if his presidential campaign hasn't been the most entertaining in a very long time.

Like, I can't even bring myself to dislike him and the ridiculous things he says. I'm too busy laughing at the absurdity of it all.

Shorty
08-24-2015, 04:58 PM
and bernie doesn't need any help on the campaign trial. The unions have backed him which is bigger money than a lot of candidates.

That doesn't mean anything when he's running against Hillary Clinton, who is without a doubt the wealthiest of the democratic runners right now. The statement stands that he needs all the support he can get.

Only a few weeks in and we are already shocked and horrified at Trump and it's stopped being jokes and games. It's not funny anymore; it's frightening.

I haven't decided who I'm voting for. :shobon: It's between Hillary and Bernie for me.

Del Murder
08-24-2015, 05:46 PM
Looks like we're ready to make a projection with 2% of forums reporting: Bernie Sanders has just been elected President of EoFF.

sharkythesharkdogg
08-24-2015, 06:02 PM
He absolutely has my vote.

Edit: Even if he is......a socialist. Even the insidious root word implies a disconcerting focus on society, societal development and support, and generally creating policies that would benefit the quality of life for citizens. I must be a mad man.

DMKA
08-25-2015, 04:55 AM
Even the insidious root word implies a disconcerting focus on society, societal development and support, and generally creating policies that would benefit the quality of life for citizens.

Unfortunately, every national government ever to label themselves "socialists" has been the exact opposite, a complete nightmare with anything but benefiting the quality of life of its citizens as its preoccupation, and thus ruined the word forever in the western world. Cuba is probably the most popular remaining "socialist" nation, and well...that makes it just a little disconcerting to some people when they hear talk of socialism and socialists, much less a presidential candidate proudly proclaiming himself to be one.

Not that I'm dissing Sanders or anything. Just saying.

Shiny
08-26-2015, 04:55 AM
How well has socialism actually worked out for Cuba? It seems like a majority of the people there struggle to get by. I agree with a lot of Bernie's ideas but socialism has proven to be a degression. I can fathom a female president (Hillary tho no thank you) more than I can fathom a socialist one. Not going to happen anytime soon methinks. Considering this country is hellbent on keeping a democratic republic as well.

Psychotic
08-26-2015, 07:21 AM
Cuba has Marxism/Leninism, not socialism. Not really a good example to pick anyway as it would probably be doing a lot better without crippling US sanctions too. It's like saying democracy is pointless because of how well it's gone in Iraq.

If you want a better but not perfect example, the politics of Western Europe (I don't mean godawful shit like the UK by the way. I mean Scandinavia, Switzerland, Austria, et cetera) are much more socialist than America, and it's these countries that have a higher standard of life for its citizens than in the US. Free healthcare should be an inalienable right in any and every developed country and it baffles me that the USA doesn't have that.

And even if you don't agree with that, well:

http://i.imgur.com/O3zgwYn.png

I mean, come on now.

God knows this country tries to emulate America as much as it can so sort it out for our benefit if not yours. 20 is not enough damnit :colbert:

Pheesh
08-26-2015, 09:45 AM
When I visited the USA the thing that shocked every American I spoke to without fail was the amount of time off that I was able to take from work for my trip. So while I didn't know of the numbers pointed out in that graph, they don't surprise me in the least.

maybee
08-26-2015, 09:51 AM
Not American here, but hoping y'all vote for Bernie. I don't know whether it's because I've been brainwashed by Tumblr to cheer for him, I'm guessing that's a very high possibility, but he does sound like a potentially fantastic president.

Lazerface
08-26-2015, 01:58 PM
Whichever kills us less through economy and political correctness.

Freya
08-26-2015, 04:33 PM
I alway laugh at comments like that. Political correctness is used for terms that could be seen as offensive to others. So people hate it cause they can't be jerks and say mean things?

It's amusing. People are amusing.

Fynn
08-26-2015, 04:34 PM
I alway laugh at comments like that. Political correctness is used for terms that could be seen as offensive to others. So people hate it cause they can't be jerks and say mean things?

It's amusing. People are amusing.

Preach it. Suddenly, PC became a slur. Why?

Madame Adequate
08-26-2015, 06:02 PM
Because what they really mean is they are upset they're being called out for being racist/sexist/homophobic/transphobic/whatever. We've succeeded in making 'bigot' a thing people ABSOLUTELY do not want to be called, but rather than reducing bigotry, instead it's just made people who are called out for it get really really offended that they can't "tell it like it is" or whatever.

Miriel
08-26-2015, 10:33 PM
If I can't have Elizabeth Warren, I will take Bernie Sanders. I feel like he has a huge uphill battle ahead of him though and I really hope this grassroots effort takes off in the same way it did for Obama.

Freya
08-27-2015, 12:40 AM
I'm hoping she will cave and be his VP. :kaoclove:

FFNut
08-27-2015, 03:17 AM
As a Canadian I can't vote, however I like Ron Paul honestly

black orb
08-27-2015, 07:49 AM
>>> Wow, lots of candidates there, the only ones I know from that list are Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump..:luca:

Formalhaut
08-28-2015, 01:18 AM
Question: Why is the Republican pool so much wider than the Democrat pool? Did they just elect to use the 'throw everyone we have and watch which one sticks' method of politics?

Colonel Angus
08-28-2015, 01:55 AM
Question: Why is the Republican pool so much wider than the Democrat pool? Did they just elect to use the 'throw everyone we have and watch which one sticks' method of politics?
First of all, it's still extremely early in the race. More than a year.

The GOP is running ahead of this thing because they all feel they have a chance. Unlike the Dems, who now have two front-runners (maybe more when/if Biden decides to run), the Repugs didn't have a clear favorite until the media elected Trump.

The Dems knew Hillary would run & for a while was the clear favorite to win it all. Then she felt the Bern & now it's a two horse race.

Pheesh
08-28-2015, 02:21 AM
Am I the only one who expects Trump, if he were to win, to totally do the Kevin Spacey evil stare and knuckle smack from the end of House of Cards season 2?

Laddy
08-28-2015, 03:56 AM
Whichever kills us less through economy and political correctness.
I wish I lived in a world where being asked not to offend people was the worst possible thing that could happen.

SuperMillionaire
09-09-2015, 01:57 PM
Donald Trump is not a "goofy" guy; he is serious, and quite brash. He was tough on candidates on his Apprentice show, and he tells things the way they are.

noxious.sunshine
09-09-2015, 02:43 PM
My vote is for SuperMillionaire

Del Murder
09-09-2015, 10:06 PM
Wait a minute...Donald Trump is a millionaire...and his ego is so big that he may even characterize himself as 'super'...

noxious.sunshine
09-10-2015, 02:43 AM
Oh God.

BAN HIM NOW.

SuperMillionaire
09-16-2015, 06:37 PM
My vote is for SuperMillionaire


Wait a minute...Donald Trump is a millionaire...and his ego is so big that he may even characterize himself as 'super'...

LOL

Donald Trump is actually a billionaire, not a millionaire. He's worth about $10 billion, with a B.

And there's a Republican Presidential Candidate debate tonight on CNN, at 8:00 pm, and Trump will be there.

Freya
09-16-2015, 06:38 PM
I think you're just trying to throw us off your trail SuperTumponaire :colbert:

SuperMillionaire
09-16-2015, 06:58 PM
I think you're just trying to throw us off your trail SuperTumponaire :colbert:

I think you meant "SuperTrumpionaire."

Freya
09-16-2015, 07:04 PM
So you agree, You're SuperTrumpionaire. THE PLOT THICKENS

SuperMillionaire
09-16-2015, 07:22 PM
That doesn't mean I'm endorsing him. I like him, but I'm not endorsing him just yet. I also like some of the other candidates, including Carly Fiorina and Marco Rubio.

Freya
09-16-2015, 08:04 PM
Carly's platform is weak. It's mostly been just "I'm not Hillary" That's what most of her speeches have been about. That and how Trump said she had an ugly face. I'm interested in her but I can't really find out what she's even about besides that she's "not Hillary" Which is hardly a reason to vote someone.

Rubio's platform is how we need to increase our military.(He's one of the senators who tried to botch international discussions with Iran with the stupid letter, he thinks we should "address" Iran... whatever that means...) And he is against net neutrality (pft.) He says he wants to cut taxes(give breaks to people with kids) but his plan would actually raise tax rates for housholds at 75k/yr to 35%. (Normally that's for people with a 400k/yr income)

A lot of the candidates, republican and democratic alike, have very loose terms as their running platforms. Many are just going for "I'm not Obama" which like the not hilary is hardly a reason to vote for someone. That or they are going for the emotional response for pro-life or about immigration. Their actual opinions on polices are a bit short. It is still "early" in the race though, that's probably why.

So even Trumps "telling it how it is" has been mostly emotional kneejerking the topics.

That's why many are liking Bernie Sanders as he's been pretty clear what his points are from the beginning.



And folks that's the "kc has been paying too much attention to news lately". The debate tonight should be interesting. Carly will actually be in it and Trump "promised" to be nice this time.

SuperMillionaire
09-18-2015, 07:03 PM
I watched the debate the other night. All the candidates did well, but Carly Fiorina gained a lot of ground; she is going to surge in the polls. Trump also stated that CNN treated him better than Fox News did. Also, it was watched by about 23 million viewers.

https://www.yahoo.com/politics/gop-debate-most-watched-show-in-cnns-history-129301344896.html

Freya
09-18-2015, 07:46 PM
Yeah I watched it. It was trash. 3 hrs of blah. They didn't talk about any topics other than knee-Jerk reactions. I still have no idea how they are going to affect actual US issues.

Rand Paul sounded the most sane and that's surprising.

Shiny
10-06-2015, 04:57 AM
A woman is more likely to win over Bernie who is a short Jewish man. A majority of our presidents have been tall and Christian. I've even heard people say they would never vote for someone who looks like Bernie Sanders. Less we forget that this country was founded on vanity and racism primarily with misogyny as a secondary. It's absurd. He's considerably older than his contenders.

Ayen
10-06-2015, 05:25 AM
Bernie Sanders. There. Easiest decision I ever made in my life.

The Summoner of Leviathan
10-06-2015, 04:41 PM
Can Sanders come to Canada? Because right now I am liking him more than any of our candidates.

Colonel Angus
10-06-2015, 11:42 PM
A woman is more likely to win over Bernie who is a short Jewish man. A majority of our presidents have been tall and Christian. I've even heard people say they would never vote for someone who looks like Bernie Sanders. Less we forget that this country was founded on vanity and racism primarily with misogyny as a secondary. It's absurd. He's considerably older than his contenders.
If he won, he'd be the oldest person to become President.

One web site states he's 5'8" (Google doesn't give his height, unlike most famous people), so he'd be 2" taller than Martin Van Buren. But, yeah, tall guys usually win the office. Hillary, on the other hand, is 5'7".

Ayen
10-07-2015, 01:00 AM
Can Sanders come to Canada? Because right now I am liking him more than any of our candidates.

We need him more than you do. You can have Obama when his term is over.



A woman is more likely to win over Bernie who is a short Jewish man. A majority of our presidents have been tall and Christian. I've even heard people say they would never vote for someone who looks like Bernie Sanders. Less we forget that this country was founded on vanity and racism primarily with misogyny as a secondary. It's absurd. He's considerably older than his contenders.
If he won, he'd be the oldest person to become President.

One web site states he's 5'8" (Google doesn't give his height, unlike most famous people), so he'd be 2" taller than Martin Van Buren. But, yeah, tall guys usually win the office. Hillary, on the other hand, is 5'7".

Looks like it's going to be a close race.

The Summoner of Leviathan
10-08-2015, 03:39 PM
Can Sanders come to Canada? Because right now I am liking him more than any of our candidates.

We need him more than you do. You can have Obama when his term is over.



I dunno Harper and his Conservative MPs wouldn't be out of place in the more crazy end of the GOP. One recently said that the Earth absorbs all the spilled oil from the tar sands, so it's okay (i.e. won't hurt the environment). Another wrote in to say gay conversion therapy is cool by him. Or the fact that basically all environmental groups are being harassed by the CRA (our taxation body) if they try to speak out about the lack of environment on most election platforms. Apparently they are getting too political for charities? Which is why David Suzuki left the board of his foundation so he could blast the candidates.

T__T

Freya
10-08-2015, 04:11 PM
That's not how pollution works, that's not how any of this works!

Oh earth politics, why you so silly. Could you imagine earth vs space politics, ugh no wonder gundams came to f up our shit.

The Summoner of Leviathan
10-08-2015, 04:32 PM
Seriously, I want to cry when I think too hard about what has happened in the last decade here. THOUSANDS OF PROTECTED RIVERS AND PARKS are reduced to slightly over 200! T__T

Can I get Wing-Zero?

escobert
10-08-2015, 05:06 PM
why is everyone still saying Bernie is an undedog? because the media says so? I think the poll quite clearly shows he isn't. and I don't think EoFF is an oddity in that sense.

Freya
10-08-2015, 05:19 PM
In the grand scheme, he is. Hilary is still the forerunner of the Democrats. And the Republican party is so flooded right now. They are just being talked about more because there are so many of them. So with Hilary and all the large amount of Republicanss in the news, people either don't know about Bernie, or he's not their first choice.

The internet crowd (eoff) loves Bernie but they really don't represent the most of America.

escobert
10-08-2015, 05:27 PM
In the grand scheme, he is. Hilary is still the forerunner of the Democrats. And the Republican party is so flooded right now. They are just being talked about more because there are so many of them. So with Hilary and all the large amount of Republicanss in the news, people either don't know about Bernie, or he's not their first choice.

The internet crowd (eoff) loves Bernie but they really don't represent the most of America.


I see the Bernie love everywhere not just on forums :p he'd Obama 2.0. all the youngsters love him.

Freya
10-08-2015, 05:35 PM
Yes, but, they are also the ones who vote the least. So even if 18-34 crowd loves him, they don't vote enough. So he doesn't end up with a majority cause of that. Hilary has a stronger base on that front for the Dems. She's beating him in near every state's polls.

Obama initially won because he got the 18-34 crowd to vote. If Bernie can do the same, he'll win. That group just doesn't vote as much though. The Republicans are doing a great job of stirring them up recently though. So they may. But he has to get past Hilary first. Many don't vote in primaries so that's the underdog challenge.

escobert
10-08-2015, 05:39 PM
I have literally only heard one person irl say they support Hillary. All I see/hear is Bernie and Trump.

Freya
10-08-2015, 05:46 PM
You also live in one of the least populated states (lol sorry for using that against you again) But nah, if you actually look at polling, Sanders is way below Hilary. And biden usually comes up in it too (he's not even running lol)

escobert
10-08-2015, 05:50 PM
I suppose Bernie does get love from the city people. It's how he gets elected here. Burlington, Brattleboro, Montpelier, Rutland and Barre pretty much vote for him straight across the board and that's like two thirds of the states population in those "cities".

Freya
10-08-2015, 05:51 PM
Oh yeah, he's FROM your state isn't he? No wonder you don't hear anything against him. That makes sense.

escobert
10-08-2015, 05:53 PM
Oh yeah, he's FROM your state isn't he? No wonder you don't hear anything against him. That makes sense.
no, he's from NYC ;) He just happens to live here. every time I hear "Vermont independent" I lol.

Freya
10-08-2015, 05:58 PM
I meant as a senator of your state lol

I got that way about Dick Chaney when I lived in Wyoming "oh he's from your state" "NOPE, HE JUST LIVES HERE." When I lived in Wyo. :p

sharkythesharkdogg
10-08-2015, 06:21 PM
I don't know Levy.

I've heard a lot of your conservative people speak on policies, and while they're still generally crazy on a lot of things, I think at best they would be regarded as moderate in the GOP. A lot of them would be considered......democrats. :ohdear:

And some of them would still be considered too liberal even for the Dems.

Compared to most of the rest of the world all we have are Conservatives, far more conservative Conservatives, and then the disturbingly fringe Tea Party conservatives. :sigh:

I'm voting Bern. I live in South Carolina, so it's useless, but that's not the point. I'm voting Bern.

Pheesh
10-09-2015, 01:26 PM
How does a someone so stupid become a neurosurgeon?

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/us-election/11920874/Ben-Carson-says-gun-control-to-blame-for-Holocaust.html

Loony BoB
10-09-2015, 01:49 PM
:Oo:

escobert
10-09-2015, 01:54 PM
And just think he was held at gun point at one point in his life. He somehow didn't blame the gun but the person holding it ;)

Fox
10-09-2015, 02:01 PM
How does a someone so stupid become a neurosurgeon?

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/us-election/11920874/Ben-Carson-says-gun-control-to-blame-for-Holocaust.html

Well, intra-cranial operations isn't exactly brain surgery, is it?

Freya
10-09-2015, 02:37 PM
And just think he was held at gun point at one point in his life. He somehow didn't blame the gun but the person holding it ;)

And just think, he wouldn't have had been held at gun point if there wasn't a gun ;) Take it to the gun thread bert xD I'll argue all day with you there lol

Pheesh
10-09-2015, 02:51 PM
And just think he was held at gun point at one point in his life. He somehow didn't blame the gun but the person holding it ;)

If that opinion is held by the same person that thinks American gun laws would have allowed Jewish people to rise up and overthrow the Nazi regime then it's an argument against pro-gun activists.

Shiny
10-13-2015, 08:30 AM
Can Sanders come to Canada? Because right now I am liking him more than any of our candidates.

We need him more than you do. You can have Obama when his term is over.



A woman is more likely to win over Bernie who is a short Jewish man. A majority of our presidents have been tall and Christian. I've even heard people say they would never vote for someone who looks like Bernie Sanders. Less we forget that this country was founded on vanity and racism primarily with misogyny as a secondary. It's absurd. He's considerably older than his contenders.
If he won, he'd be the oldest person to become President.

One web site states he's 5'8" (Google doesn't give his height, unlike most famous people), so he'd be 2" taller than Martin Van Buren. But, yeah, tall guys usually win the office. Hillary, on the other hand, is 5'7".

Looks like it's going to be a close race.

Hillary always wears heels to make herself taller though. Maybe Bernie can pull a Tom Cruise and wear lifts in his shoes...I just don't see him winning he has the biggest thing against him: he's Jewish, he's really old, he's short and he's everything the right wing doesn't want.

Obama may be black but he was willing to keep some of the things the Republicans laid forth and on top of that he's tall and imposing with a leader's voice and he's Christian even though many right wing people will swear he is Muslim and a Manchurian candidate. I will be more shocked if Bernie Sanders wins than I was with Obama. I wasn't shocked at all when Obama first won (though I was when he won the second time).

Old Manus
10-13-2015, 09:36 AM
Maybe if Bernie Sanders doesn't win then David Icke will finally shut up about influencial superjews secretly running the world.

Shiny
10-13-2015, 09:00 PM
Oh the Super Jews are all running Hollywood instead.

Freya
10-13-2015, 09:02 PM
The democratic debate is tonight. Should be interesting since there are so many fewer candidates there. It should flow better merely because of that.

Slothy
10-13-2015, 11:14 PM
I don't know Levy.

I've heard a lot of your conservative people speak on policies, and while they're still generally crazy on a lot of things, I think at best they would be regarded as moderate in the GOP. A lot of them would be considered......democrats. :ohdear:

This is true. It's also why American politics horrifies me.

Freya
10-14-2015, 03:57 AM
Anderson Cooper won this debate. Let's just make him president.

Honestly, this debate went so muh better than the Republican ones. They weren't tearing each other down. They weren't trash talking their looks and personality. It was refreshing.

SuperMillionaire
10-29-2015, 02:24 PM
There was a Republican presidential debate last night on CNBC, which focused on the economy. Ben Carson and Donald Trump were at the center of the stage, but the debate didn't focus on them; it focused on the rest of the candidates, and all of the candidates seemed to criticize the moderators for their questions. It was also capped at two hours, and it started late.

Freya
10-29-2015, 03:56 PM
Yes. That is a simple recap of it. Good job.

Madame Adequate
10-29-2015, 06:59 PM
It was the night we watched Jeb!'s hopes and dreams die on national television.

NeoCracker
10-30-2015, 11:28 AM
I still want Gary Johnson myself, but if I'm looking at the main party canidates?

Right now the biggest problem I have with politics here is how much money Giant corporations have way to much influence with all the money they dump in, and right now we only have two canidates speaking out on how horrid the very premise of Super Pacs are. Bernie Sanders and.... bizarrely Donald Trump. Each one has a lot of politics I disagree with, but both of them want to do something about Super Pacs, so fuck it. One of those two.