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Loony BoB
12-11-2015, 12:24 PM
I'm finishing with the 2003 version of Fullmetal Alchemist and want a bit of a break from it before I watch the Brotherhood version. So now I'm looking for another anime to watch! I'm actually rather new to the anime scene outside of DBZ/Pokémon, so I've been diving into it this year.

So far I've watched (and enjoyed every one of...):

Attack on Titan
Btooom!
Fullmetal Alchemist
Gangsta
Nisekoi
Planetes
Toradora

And a whole lot of Pokémon and DBZ. Can't remember if I've seen all of DBZ or not...

I've been really enjoying it all so far, though, despite the mixture of genres.

I'm currently weighing up the following...

Bleach
Clannad
Elfen Lied
No Game No Life
Steins;Gate

Decisions, decisions. Preferring "complete" stories if possible. I've no idea if the above are complete or not though, to be honest. x_x

Shauna
12-11-2015, 12:54 PM
Subs/Dubs?

Loony BoB
12-11-2015, 01:14 PM
I've dabbled in both. Sometimes both at once! In the case of FMA 2003 the subs were different to the dubs and it annoyed me to no end.

Fynn
12-11-2015, 01:15 PM
Steins;Gate is pretty fantastic.

If you want something more down-to-earth, Kids on the Slope is pretty amazing. I also think the Tatami Galxy is great to watch, but you need to focus a bit. Both are quite short and with self-contained stories :monster:

Shauna
12-11-2015, 01:24 PM
Katanagatari

NeoCracker
12-11-2015, 01:37 PM
The Answer is One Punch Man. Viz is streaming the Sub of the episodes, and the last episode of the first season is almost out. It is amazing.

Karifean
12-11-2015, 02:13 PM
I'm currently weighing up the following...

Bleach
Clannad
Elfen Lied
No Game No Life
Steins;Gate

Haven't seen Bleach or NGNL. Elfen Lied is pretty hard to say if you'd end up liking it or disliking it, so I'll abstain. Of the other ones, CLANNAD is a great choice if you happen to be looking for more of something like Toradora. Just remember that it has a second season which is usually the one people never shut up about (and for good reasons). Steins;Gate is simply great and enjoyable through and through.


The Answer is One Punch Man. Viz is streaming the Sub of the episodes, and the last episode of the first season is almost out. It is amazing.

Seconded. One Punch Man is damn good. It's not complete (and won't be for ages), but what is there is certainly worth giving a watch.

Also, Baccano! and Mahou Shoujo Madoka Magica. The former is a pretty awesome and fun ride, the latter... well, the less you know about it going into it the better. But it's definitely a top tier anime.

Loony BoB
12-11-2015, 02:34 PM
I've seen the first episode of Elfen Lied and it interested me a lot. Clannad was the opposite, but everything I hear about it says it picks up as things move forward and I'd like to watch it before watching the second series.

Ayen
12-11-2015, 08:59 PM
You want to watch Good Luck Girl and Haganai. Both are available in English Dubs, and they're actually quite good. Smurfing hilarious.

Shauna
12-11-2015, 09:04 PM
have you watched katanagatari yet

Sephiroth
12-11-2015, 09:18 PM
You should watch everything you can from the Dragon Ball Franchise. Not just Z.

Fox
12-11-2015, 11:00 PM
I'm currently weighing up the following...

Bleach
Clannad
Elfen Lied
No Game No Life
Steins;Gate


Of those I really like:

CLANNAD
No Game No Life
Steins;Gate

If you want something romantic and funny - CLANNAD.
If you want something fun and clever (but a bit overly fanservicey) - No Game no Life
If you want something dramatic with a more complex story - Steins;Gate

All of the above have really enjoyable characters.

If you want something with about 6 million episodes per arc - Bleach.

fire_of_avalon
12-12-2015, 03:20 AM
A good one.

Mirage
12-12-2015, 05:48 AM
Knights of Sidonia is pretty cool. It's on Netflix. It's up to two seasons now.

You should also try Scrapped Princess. It's a long time since I watched it, but I remember it to be great. Might just have been because I was young and impressionable, though. It was rated as one of the best shows of the year when it came out, along with Last Exile.

Colonel Angus
12-12-2015, 06:00 AM
I'll second Baccano! The dub is actually excellent.

Loony BoB
12-12-2015, 11:38 AM
Watching the early episodes of Clannad is like watching the early episodes of True Detective. I can appreciate the quality of the anime but my god will it just pick up already. =| I live and die for the blonde dude getting beat up by the silver haired chick, it gets me through the build-up to whatever this is.

krissy
12-15-2015, 02:36 AM
trigun

Tavrobel
12-15-2015, 02:58 AM
You listed a bunch of shows that you liked, but what exactly did you like about them?

Recommending against No Game No Life. It's great, but it's full of fanservice aimed toward the the most dedicated of deeply entrenched anime fans; certainly not starter friendly. The story is unfinished, as there's about 6 volumes that haven't been adapted, assuming they get adapted at all. I very highly doubt that it will, considering some of the notoriety/controversy surrounding the author. 12 episodes.

Elfen Lied is violence for the sake of violence. There is a plot, but its claim to fame is the extreme gore (and it should surprise no one, you've seen worse in real movies). I'd only tell you to watch it so people will stop trying to recommend it to you. 12 episodes.

While Bleach is complete (technically), it's a long standing series akin to DBZ and Pokemon. If you want more "shounen" demographic shows to watch, go ahead. There's a couple of guides out there that detail which episodes are purely filler, so you can skip them if you please. 366 episodes + movies.

Steins;Gate is a slice-of-life/mystery/time travel show, and it's great for people who want a lot of genres and ideas put together for someone to figure out what they want from future shows. I think it sucks, but other people are free to disagree. 24 episodes + movie, "season 2" is incoming.

Clannad (CLANNAIDS) and Clannad: After Story is probably the most solid watch out of all of those shows you listed. It's a little formulaic, but it's one of the few shows that has the formula correct: equal parts comedy, drama, strong characters, and a plot. 47 episodes, 2 alternate route episodes; don't watch the movie.

But really, I'd recommend Boku no Pico. 3 episodes full of excellence. ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

Loony BoB
12-15-2015, 12:53 PM
You listed a bunch of shows that you liked, but what exactly did you like about them?

Attack on Titan - Really interesting plot, good characters.
Btooom! - I like the characters, and apparently I'm a sucker for a Battle Royale based on a video game. Quite liked the voice acting.
Fullmetal Alchemist - Took me a while to get into it as it started a bit too slow for my liking, but after about the 5th-6th episode I was invested and interested. I liked the plot and humour and a bunch of the characters.
Gangsta - Interesting premise, interesting characters, and so far, interesting plot.
Nisekoi - Enjoyable plot & characters, funny.
Planetes - Interesting and unique plot, nicely worked themes, funny.
Toradora - Enjoyable plot & characters, funny.

I'm not the kind of guy to spend ages on reviewing things, so explaining why I like things is pretty vague. I tend to like more shows than I dislike. Clannad has so far been excruciatingly boring but I'm told it picks up, so here's to the future episodes (I think I'm on episode 4 or 5 and falling asleep often).

I don't mind violence so long as the plot/characters are interesting (eg. Attack on Titan + Gangsta, both happy to show violence and gore but still great). I dislike super timid characters which is probably my main gripe with Clannad up to the point I've watched so far. You know... characters that are always apologising and always getting upset and always sad anda;siodgh;aietgh urgh I just find it unenjoyable to watch characters like that.

I like fun, confident types. I like a balanced mix of feels and humour. Art isn't hugely important to me, but it can help - I like art styles seen in those I listed above.

Dunno, really, just hard to say D:

Shauna
12-15-2015, 01:09 PM
Oh, also Bakemonogatari.

Fynn
12-15-2015, 01:38 PM
But really, I'd recommend Boku no Pico. 3 episodes full of excellence. ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

Please, don't do this here.

If you don't know, BoB, Boku no Pico is essentially anime child porn. It's a common troll tactic on the Internet to recommend it to people.


Oh, also Bakemonogatari.

Whoah. Flashbacks. I used to adore Bakemonogatari, but then Nisemonogatari came and shit all over the whole thing to the point that the original is just ruined for me. But I do realize it's just my opinion and I know a lot of people still adored it :monster:

Fox
12-15-2015, 01:46 PM
But really, I'd recommend Boku no Pico. 3 episodes full of excellence. ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

Uh oh, I took a wrong turn somewhere and ended up on 4Chan.


Oh, also Bakemonogatari.

If we're monogatari-ing... what is the correct order to watch these in? There's like a million of them!

Oh and BoB - Ore Monogatari is really good if you enjoy funny romance. It actually has nothing to do with the Monogatari series Shauna mentioned, just to make things complicated ^^

Fynn
12-15-2015, 01:50 PM
There's also Katanagatari, which is also completely unrelated XD

From what I remember, it's Bakemonogatari, then Nisemonogatari, then Nekomonogatari, then Monogatari 2nd series, and I'm not sure if there's more? I know Kizumonogatari was going to be a movie, but is it out already? I was really interested in all this until I got to episode 8 of Nise and just quit ><

Another recommendation I can make is Sayonara Zetsubou Sensei. One of the most absurd series I have ever seen. It's just perfect.

Shauna
12-15-2015, 03:49 PM
Katanagatari


have you watched katanagatari yet


There's also Katanagatari, which is also completely unrelated XD

:stare:


Anyway, Fynn is almost right.

Bake - Nise - Neko - 2nd Season - Hana - Tsuki - Owari

Despite Nise having that one episode the rest of it is a solid piece of work.


And yes, Ore Monogatari!! is amazing.

Fynn
12-15-2015, 03:53 PM
Katanagatari


have you watched katanagatari yet


There's also Katanagatari, which is also completely unrelated XD

:stare:

:simon:

What happened to the Kizu movie? is it still coming out?

I understand why some people still like it, but besides that episode what ruined it for me was the pacing. The story of the entirety of Nise would have been done in two or three episodes in Bake, and it was all padded with fanservice that had none of the self-awareness of bake. Plus, 3/4 of the cast did a complete 180 in personality, seemingly to reinforce the fanservice. But hey, that's just my opinion, man :gator:

Shauna
12-15-2015, 03:58 PM
Nothing out yet, sadly. January 8, 2016 supposedly.

But I get the pacing issues, it is very slow. But then I tend to marathon things so I don't notice it nearly as much.

Shauna
12-15-2015, 03:59 PM
Oh, also watch Shiki.

Aerith's Knight
12-15-2015, 07:30 PM
Hmm, it seems you have similar tastes to mine. Don't know many that actually watch Planetes before much of the mainstream stuff.

I recommend:

Psycho Pass - Fucking awesome
Cross Game - Really enjoyable sports anime
Fate series (stay night/zero) - Pretty sweet magical combat and stuff
FMA Brotherhood - because it's better than FMA.

Rin Heartilly
12-15-2015, 08:30 PM
Whooooa
Whooooooooa
Whoooooooooooooa

This is an anime thread and no one has mentioned Neon Genesis Evangelion??? Heathens!

Get on it :colbert:

Fynn
12-15-2015, 08:31 PM
Whooooa
Whooooooooa
Whoooooooooooooa

This is an anime thread and no one has mentioned Neon Genesis Evangelion??? Heathens!

Get on it :colbert:

I've become really tired of the original series :p

Rebuild of Evangelion is pretty sweet, though! :up:

Rin Heartilly
12-15-2015, 08:36 PM
Whooooa
Whooooooooa
Whoooooooooooooa

This is an anime thread and no one has mentioned Neon Genesis Evangelion??? Heathens!

Get on it :colbert:

I've become really tired of the original series :p

Rebuild of Evangelion is pretty sweet, though! :up:

Loved the original series but the last two episodes....ugh that budget cut lol Thank the lord for Death/Rebirth and End of Evangelion lol NGE was my first anime ever, it was on adult swim and I was 5yo (probably not a good age to be watching it xD) but its mainly my nostalgia talking for the original series xD

Rebuild of evangelion is epic though +___+

Fynn
12-15-2015, 08:37 PM
End was pretty fucked up tho

Rin Heartilly
12-15-2015, 08:41 PM
End was pretty fucked up tho

Ohhh yeah o____o I think most of the show was smurfed up in general xD

Shauna
12-15-2015, 09:03 PM
Eh. Eva was never my thing.

Also:


Hmm, it seems you have similar tastes to mine. Don't know many that actually watch Planetes before much of the mainstream stuff.

He watched Planetes 'cause I recced it to him. I have good taste in animu. :smug:

Tavrobel
12-16-2015, 03:01 AM
Boku no Pico

... is for people who have no souls. ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)


Clannad has so far been excruciatingly boring but I'm told it picks up, so here's to the future episodes (I think I'm on episode 4 or 5 and falling asleep often).

I dislike super timid characters which is probably my main gripe with Clannad up to the point I've watched so far. You know... characters that are always apologising and always getting upset and always sad anda;siodgh;aietgh urgh I just find it unenjoyable to watch characters like that.

If you can't make it through episode 7 or 8 (the end of the first arc), then you should drop it then and there. Like I said before, it's formulaic, but if you don't like the formula, don't bother. The show's claim to fame doesn't happen until well into the second season.

The apologizing is based on Japanese culture. Normally it's played for laughs, but Western culture considers it offensive/passive-aggressive. If you don't like timid characters, you won't like the next arc, you won't like the end of the first season, and you won't like the beginning of the second season.



Attack on Titan - Really interesting plot, good characters.
Btooom! - I like the characters, and apparently I'm a sucker for a Battle Royale based on a video game. Quite liked the voice acting.
Fullmetal Alchemist - Took me a while to get into it as it started a bit too slow for my liking, but after about the 5th-6th episode I was invested and interested. I liked the plot and humour and a bunch of the characters.


Based on these, I might suggest Fate/Zero. It's a battle royale with Pokemon based on mythological figures. Excellent fight scenes, and your standard Urobutcher utilitarianism fare. First episode is an info dump, but watch it anyway. It helps to establish a lot of rules in the show's world, and that will carry over if you ever wanted to watch Fate Stay Night. Subs and dubs both available, 25 episodes.

If you want a show that's more like SnK/Attack on Titan, I might suggest Gate: Jieitai Kanochi nite, Kaku Tatakaeri. It follows a similar idea as SnK/AoT, survival against an attacking whatever; however, it doesn't take itself nearly as seriously. Story is unfinished, but there is a season 2 coming out soon. Subs only, recent airing, 12 episodes.

Mentioning Btoom! does actually make the No Game No Life rec make sense.


Nisekoi - Enjoyable plot & characters, funny.
Toradora - Enjoyable plot & characters, funny.

>> nisekoi
>> plot
>> mfw (http://randommization.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/element-of-confusion-tee.jpg)

Not sure if you've seen Nisekoi's second season, though.

Bakemonogatari fits pretty well here. Don't be thrown off by the unique art style or reading the random flashcards. They're just quotes from the novels describing the scene. They add nothing. Beware of Japanese puns. The show is not in chronological order, but the intended watching order is the airing order. People are free to disagree, but they're also free to be wrong.

If you want to watch something that reverses the genders, you could watch Ouran High School Host Club.

I can't say anything about Gangsta, as I've only heard reviews calling it an intense disappointment and I don't intend to investigate myself. I haven't seen Planetes, but I know it's about space janitors.


Another recommendation I can make is Sayonara Zetsubou Sensei. One of the most absurd series I have ever seen. It's just perfect.

I vehemently recommend against starting this show. Unless you have an understanding of 2005-2010 Japanese politics or post-reconstruction Japanese history, a strong understanding or tolerance of Japanese culture, or a library of knowledge concerning 2000-2010 anime, large chunks of this show's comedy is completely lost after the first six episodes.


What happened to the Kizu movie? is it still coming out?

It's being split into three movies. The first is coming out on January 8th, expect speedsubs 12 hours after the first airing.

Loony BoB
12-16-2015, 11:31 AM
Nisekoi's "plot" is ridiculous and that's why I like it. I've seen all the episodes I could... obtain. :shifty: Pretty sure I've seen all there is. Plot might be the wrong word for it, basically I find the story enjoyable.

Methinks I'll have to give up on Clannad but I'll give it a couple more episodes. I've disliked central characters before (I wasn't a fan of the super-short central character in Toradora!, more so I enjoyed all the others and simply tolerated her) and enjoyed a series despite it, but the characters that interest me most in Clannad get very little relative screentime.

I've actually been watching Brooklyn Nine Nine lately to get myself "off" anime so I can enjoy anime more when I go back to it. Hopefully the variation in shows will help me enjoy both more. I'm sure I'll enjoy whatever I watch next so long as it isn't going to be full of timid crybabies. >_>

Trumpet Thief
12-16-2015, 11:38 AM
Tatami Galaxy is a fun, lighthearted one that I would recommend!

Karifean
12-16-2015, 11:40 AM
Clannad has so far been excruciatingly boring but I'm told it picks up, so here's to the future episodes (I think I'm on episode 4 or 5 and falling asleep often).

I dislike super timid characters which is probably my main gripe with Clannad up to the point I've watched so far. You know... characters that are always apologising and always getting upset and always sad anda;siodgh;aietgh urgh I just find it unenjoyable to watch characters like that.

If you can't make it through episode 7 or 8 (the end of the first arc), then you should drop it then and there. Like I said before, it's formulaic, but if you don't like the formula, don't bother. The show's claim to fame doesn't happen until well into the second season.

The apologizing is based on Japanese culture. Normally it's played for laughs, but Western culture considers it offensive/passive-aggressive. If you don't like timid characters, you won't like the next arc, you won't like the end of the first season, and you won't like the beginning of the second season.

As much as I love CLANNAD, I have to agree. While I also didn't start caring much for CLANNAD until mid second season I never found the first season boring and I quite liked all the characters and the cast is one of CLANNAD's high points so if you don't like them it's not going to go too well.

It does keep getting better but there's no major shift from the formula it establishes early on.

Fate/Zero is definitely worth watching but I'd wait on that because I technically find Fate/Stay Night to be the better entry point into the Fate/ series.

You could also try some other major classics like Death Note or Code Geass.

Chibi Youkai
12-17-2015, 03:19 AM
Code Geass. There's a little bit of everything there, and it's a fairly original take on both fantasy and meccha. Puella Magi Madoka Magica is also an awesome series; someone else mentioned it earlier on with the proper Japanese name. It's a magical girl anime, but a very unique take on it that isn't all sunshine and rainbows, and has a bit of a creepy psychological edge to it.

Hollycat
12-17-2015, 03:30 AM
My vote is Madoka Magica. I know its not on your list, but it seems you like dramatic and dark anime, so it's a good fit.

Scotty_ffgamer
12-17-2015, 04:13 AM
Paranoia Agent is my favorite anime, though I haven't seen it in a long time. It's fairly short too.

Out of what's on your list, all I've seen is Clannad and most of Bleach. I did enjoy Clannad and Clannad After Story, but I can agree with what others have said in that you probably won't enjoy continuing watching it if you don't already like it. Bleach I enjoyed in high school, but always felt like it never quite lived up to the potential that was set up for it at the beginning. I did a complete watch of the show up until the point I left off in the manga back in high school where I felt I got a somewhat satisfying conclusion, but I mostly felt it a waste of time because I really didn't enjoy it all that much.

Full Metal Alchemist: Brotherhood is great. I saw it before I saw the original FMA anime (seems weird thinking of it like that since Brotherhood follows the original manga story), so that might skew my perception a little. I couldn't get into the original FMA stuff despite realizing it was good because Brotherhood felt more satisfying to watch to me. I've heard other people say they much prefer the original FMA who watched that one first. I'd say it's worth a watch though.

Tavrobel
12-17-2015, 04:32 AM
Nisekoi's "plot" is ridiculous and that's why I like it. I've seen all the episodes I could... obtain. :shifty: Pretty sure I've seen all there is. Plot might be the wrong word for it, basically I find the story enjoyable.

We use the term "skillfully acquired." If you've met her mom, that's all of the episodes so far, not counting OVAs.


I wasn't a fan of the super-short central character in Toradora!

Ami is best girl.


Fate/Zero is definitely worth watching but I'd wait on that because I technically find Fate/Stay Night to be the better entry point into the Fate/ series.

That would only be true if he wanted to play the visual novel. If he's only willing to watch ufotable's F/Z and UBW, then Fate/Zero is the intended first watch. With the way that UBW is structured, it provides reasonable conclusions to each of the common characters' central plot devices. ufotable's UBW assumes you've seen F/Z.

Hollycat
12-17-2015, 04:35 AM
Yeah the Fate series is pretty great too.
Definitely start with zero and watch stay/night second as its an immediate sequel.

Aerith's Knight
12-17-2015, 07:52 AM
Fate/Zero is definitely worth watching but I'd wait on that because I technically find Fate/Stay Night to be the better entry point into the Fate/ series.

That would only be true if he wanted to play the visual novel. If he's only willing to watch ufotable's F/Z and UBW, then Fate/Zero is the intended first watch. With the way that UBW is structured, it provides reasonable conclusions to each of the common characters' central plot devices. ufotable's UBW assumes you've seen F/Z.

I don't know. I started the series with Fate/zero, and I stopped watching it around halfway. The anime gets really smurfed up. I'm not sure if that is the best introduction to the Fate series. I actually rewatched Fate/zero after /stay night and it went down a lot better now that I had context.

Fynn
12-17-2015, 08:43 AM
Fate/Zero is definitely worth watching but I'd wait on that because I technically find Fate/Stay Night to be the better entry point into the Fate/ series.

That would only be true if he wanted to play the visual novel. If he's only willing to watch ufotable's F/Z and UBW, then Fate/Zero is the intended first watch. With the way that UBW is structured, it provides reasonable conclusions to each of the common characters' central plot devices. ufotable's UBW assumes you've seen F/Z.

I don't know. I started the series with Fate/zero, and I stopped watching it around halfway. The anime gets really smurfed up. I'm not sure if that is the best introduction to the Fate series. I actually rewatched Fate/zero after /stay night and it went down a lot better now that I had context.

That's the thing about prequels. I've never seen the Fate series, so I can't comment on it specifically, but I always roll my eyes when people tell others to watch prequels first. Not only do you usually need context, but the drama is lost on you, because the drama usually stems from how it's connected to the original. It's like telling people Birth By Sleep is the best entry point into Kingdom Hearts :roll2:

NeoCracker
12-17-2015, 09:12 AM
Paranoia Agent is my favorite anime, though I haven't seen it in a long time. It's fairly short too.

Out of what's on your list, all I've seen is Clannad and most of Bleach. I did enjoy Clannad and Clannad After Story, but I can agree with what others have said in that you probably won't enjoy continuing watching it if you don't already like it. Bleach I enjoyed in high school, but always felt like it never quite lived up to the potential that was set up for it at the beginning. I did a complete watch of the show up until the point I left off in the manga back in high school where I felt I got a somewhat satisfying conclusion, but I mostly felt it a waste of time because I really didn't enjoy it all that much.

Full Metal Alchemist: Brotherhood is great. I saw it before I saw the original FMA anime (seems weird thinking of it like that since Brotherhood follows the original manga story), so that might skew my perception a little. I couldn't get into the original FMA stuff despite realizing it was good because Brotherhood felt more satisfying to watch to me. I've heard other people say they much prefer the original FMA who watched that one first. I'd say it's worth a watch though.

I'd put Paranoia Agent in my Top 3 anime of all time. It was fantastic.

Tavrobel
12-17-2015, 06:59 PM
The anime gets really smurfed up.

The Fate/Zero anime was censored compared to the light novel.

You're not going to like Heaven's Feel.

Loony BoB
12-18-2015, 10:36 AM
I am enjoying these side-discussions you guys are having so I encourage you to keep them going, it gives great info. :up: And yes, Ami is best girl!

I'll have to look into this Paranoia Agent thing.

Shauna
12-18-2015, 10:47 AM
Fate/Stay Night is incredibly dumb.

http://i2.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/facebook/000/001/593/peopledie.jpg

I enjoyed Fate/Zero a heck of a lot more, but I feel you get more out of it if you've seen F/SN first. But then, who knows.

I can't wait for Heaven's Feel. At this point, I don't hate Sakura. Mostly because she has no character. I am looking forward to her actually getting screentime and then she can join the rest of the cast in my "These Characters are Terrible" list.

NeoCracker
12-18-2015, 11:01 AM
Fate/Stay Night is incredibly dumb.

http://i2.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/facebook/000/001/593/peopledie.jpg

I enjoyed Fate/Zero a heck of a lot more, but I feel you get more out of it if you've seen F/SN first. But then, who knows.

I can't wait for Heaven's Feel. At this point, I don't hate Sakura. Mostly because she has no character. I am looking forward to her actually getting screentime and then she can join the rest of the cast in my "These Characters are Terrible" list.

Having already played the VN, she was there for me ages ago.

Rin is best girl.

Shauna
12-18-2015, 11:03 AM
Rin Tohsaka is also terrible.

Closest I get to a best girl is Irisviel von Einzbern and that is really pushing it.

Fynn
12-18-2015, 11:18 AM
I am enjoying these side-discussions you guys are having so I encourage you to keep them going, it gives great info. :up: And yes, Ami is best girl!

I'll have to look into this Paranoia Agent thing.

Paranoia Agent is pretty phenomenal, really

Rin Heartilly
12-18-2015, 12:08 PM
Okay since no one else likes Evangelion :colbert:

Psychological
Puella magi madoka
Future Diary/Mirai nikki
Code geass
Ghost in a shell
Parasyte (amazing)
Paranoia agent (wasn't amazing, pretty meh compared to others above but that's just my opinion!)

Horror/psychological:
Higurashi no naku koro ni
Berserk (makes elfen lied look like 4kids in comparison)
Elfen lied
Shiki
Gantz

Comedy:
Gintama
GTO
School rumble
Ouran host club

Sad times, much tears:
Clannad
Air
Kimi ga nozumu ein (hated the ending)
Grave of fireflies (DO NOT WATCH THIS UNLESS YOU WANT TO BE SCARRED FOR LIFE, CANNOT UNSEE, SO SAD YOU MAY FEEL LIKE DYING)

Romance:
Aoi spring ride
Kimi ni todoke
Golden time (made from same team as Toradora, similar art style but more grown up. Centres around university life)
Strobe edge

Fantasy:
Natsume yuujinchou (very relaxing to watch)
Yona of the dawn
Spice and wolf
Inuyasha
Ranma 1/2

Action:
Claymore (loved this, very gritty too)
FMA
Rorouni kenshin/samurai x
Cowboy bebop

Drama:
Guilty crown
Your lie in April
Clannad: after story
Honey and Clover
Nagi no asakura

Fynn
12-18-2015, 12:20 PM
Oh, Golden Time was pretty great!

Nichijou and Arakawa Under the Bridge are probably my favorite comedies aside from Sayonara Zetsubou Sensei.

Space Brothers is pretty great... most of the time. it has pacing issues and even though it has an ending, it doesn't really go anywhere. It just... ends.

NeoCracker
12-18-2015, 01:22 PM
Rin Tohsaka is also terrible.


When you die in your sleep know that it was brought about by your own Heresy.

Shauna
12-18-2015, 02:14 PM
The tears I shed during that stupid as sin Rin centred episode in Fate/Zero. THE TEARS.

Rin Heartilly
12-18-2015, 05:59 PM
Oh, Golden Time was pretty great!

Nichijou and Arakawa Under the Bridge are probably my favorite comedies aside from Sayonara Zetsubou Sensei.

Space Brothers is pretty great... most of the time. it has pacing issues and even though it has an ending, it doesn't really go anywhere. It just... ends.

Omg Sayonara Zetsubou sensei, that was great, how could I forget xD "I'm in despair~!" Such a weird but funny show!

Ayen
12-18-2015, 06:46 PM
Ooh, I remember Claymore. Good anime.

Hollycat
12-18-2015, 07:12 PM
Ooh, I remember Claymore. Good anime.
I adore that anime. Have to rewatch it every year or so. Too bad Raki is pretty meh. At least he insn't in a ton of it.


Two more I forgot to add were Samurai Champloo and Gurren Lagan

oh and the GOAT Ouran host club

Rin Heartilly
12-18-2015, 07:41 PM
Yesss I love it, when we still had borders here in Aus, I'd just go there and read Claymore manga all day ^^

Raki was annoying at first, but Claire was exactly like him when she followed Teresa around before she became baddass, and Raki gets less weak and more useful as he grows up, even saving Claire sometimes so I definitely recommend reading the manga because it continues after the anime :D

Aerith's Knight
12-18-2015, 08:28 PM
Okay since no one else likes Evangelion :colbert:
Comedy:
Gintama
GTO
School rumble
Ouran host club



How can Daily lives of High school boys not be included here?


Rin Tohsaka is also terrible.

Closest I get to a best girl is Irisviel von Einzbern and that is really pushing it.

Oooh, nice choice.

And how has nobody mentioned Cowboy Bebop yet? Come on guys, that's a classic.

Oh, and a nice music anime: Nodame Cantibile.

Tavrobel
12-18-2015, 09:38 PM
And yes, Ami is best girl!

Fortunately, no one I know actually thinks that Taiga is the best girl. I've heard more people rank Minorin above her. Hell, I've heard more people rank Ryuuji's mother above her. Which kind of makes sense, her story is a little tragic when you think about it, but she manages to handle it pretty well.


The Archer class really is made up of archers!

http://i.ytimg.com/vi/MAFLZhXEbww/hqdefault.jpg


Mostly because she has no character.

You are not going to like Heaven's Feel.

It's okay though. Heaven's Feel is still the best girl route (http://static.zerochan.net/Rider.(Fate.stay.night).full.90373.jpg).


The tears I shed during that stupid as sin Rin centred episode in Fate/Zero. THE TEARS.

I'm sorry that you're a girl and you can't possibly match up with the majesty of the Rin Tohsaka. Try harder, jealousboi.

In seriousness, I thought it was a fine solution to some of the issues that show up when you try to adapt a light novel into an anime. The first three Fate/Zero light novels are really, really slow. This impacts the pacing of the anime, and this episode addresses some of the things that were left out, poorly adapted, or were faults of direction/execution.



It showcases Uryuu's complete incompetence, which couldn't really be fully explored without the section(s) in the light novel that talks about it.

It shows how much of a prodigy the Tohsaka lineage is by allowing Rin to overpower and defeat a Caster's master, which would only have made sense if you've read FSN. By showing it happen in FZ, it establishes the credibility of the line without having to see FSN.

It foreshadows Caster's secondary base. At the point that Waver and Rider discovered the sewer base and got attacked by Assassin, we had already been explicitly told that Caster was consuming souls in this manner, but this doesn't happen until halfway through season 2. Episode 10 is approximately the same time in the light novel that we first hear about it.

For whatever reason, they moved Kiritsugu's backstory out of novel 1 and into the second season. Something had to fill the gap to fix the pacing.

Even more importantly, it still matches the important events in the light novel. Rin does go into the city, but she doesn't really go on an adventure. She passes out and gets rescued by Kariya, and he and Aoi have another falling out.

Also, it shows us Kariya's new magecraft, which we should not have seen until he gets wrecked by Tokiomi. We would have had to wait six months before we actually see his inherited magecraft without this episode, and you couldn't expect people who haven't seen FSN to know that he uses familiars involving worms, insects, and flies to do stuff for him.

In a meta sense, it also confirmed ufotable adapting UBW and not Fate. There's some industry level stuff to go along with it, but might as well be another essay.

Shauna
12-18-2015, 09:57 PM
Mostly because she has no character.

You are not going to like Heaven's Feel.

I have no doubt in my mind that this will be the case.

Tavrobel
12-18-2015, 10:04 PM
I have no doubt in my mind that this will be the case.

All signs point to it being butchered. ufotable only managed to get the rights to Fate adaptations by saying that they would adapt Realta Nua, the censored/PS2 patch version of Fate. DEEN still holds the rights to uncensored adaptations.

Based on previous Nasuverse adaptations (KnK, Zero, and UBW), their track record on faithfulness when it comes to dark theming is pretty poor.

There were also some false rumors that the future director of Heaven's Feel said that there would only be one movie. Unfortunately, even though the rumors are false, one thing is true: they actually considered it.

Rin Heartilly
12-19-2015, 05:12 AM
Okay since no one else likes Evangelion :colbert:
Comedy:
Gintama
GTO
School rumble
Ouran host club



How can Daily lives of High school boys not be included here?


Rin Tohsaka is also terrible.

Closest I get to a best girl is Irisviel von Einzbern and that is really pushing it.

Oooh, nice choice.

And how has nobody mentioned Cowboy Bebop yet? Come on guys, that's a classic.

Oh, and a nice music anime: Nodame Cantibile.

I haven't seen daily lives of highschool boys ^^ But the premise sounds funny! And I did mention Cowboy Bebop already in best action, but it would easily fit into best drama too.

Rin Heartilly
12-19-2015, 05:17 AM
And yes, Ami is best girl!

Fortunately, no one I know actually thinks that Taiga is the best girl. I've heard more people rank Minorin above her. Hell, I've heard more people rank Ryuuji's mother above her. Which kind of makes sense, her story is a little tragic when you think about it, but she manages to handle it pretty well.

Except Taiga is best girl :colbert:

Aerith's Knight
12-19-2015, 09:14 AM
And yes, Ami is best girl!

Fortunately, no one I know actually thinks that Taiga is the best girl. I've heard more people rank Minorin above her. Hell, I've heard more people rank Ryuuji's mother above her. Which kind of makes sense, her story is a little tragic when you think about it, but she manages to handle it pretty well.

Except Taiga is best girl :colbert:

I always liked Minorin best. Sad christmas was so sad. :cry:

Loony BoB
12-21-2015, 02:44 PM
Yeah, Minorin was great too tbh. I liked all the characters, just Taiga the least.

Aerith's Knight
12-21-2015, 02:52 PM
I never really bought in to the whole tsundere thing. It's just annoying. Now Yandere, there is a thriller.

Watch Mirai Nikki. :D

Tavrobel
12-22-2015, 11:12 PM
Except Taiga is best girl :colbert:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BkcsGnhIcAArczf.jpg

Aerith's Knight
12-22-2015, 11:43 PM
Except Taiga is best girl :colbert:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BkcsGnhIcAArczf.jpg

Blood everywhere.