Is there hope for a remake/updated port?

[Formalhaut]

So FFXII is still the only Final Fantasy to not receive an update to another console. The only improvement, the International Zodiac Job System, was a Japanese only release (the bastards).

With FFXII two generations behind, when will we see a remake of it? I for one would love to experience Ivalice in stunning PS4 graphics. I recently started playing Dragon Age: Inquisition for the PS4, and it is so much more vivid than the Xbox360 version I played before. Real improvements could be made to make Ivalice come alive.

So, what are the chances? Is there enough demand for a remake?

[Mirage]

I'm still hoping.

It's not gonna be much more stunning than it is on an emulator, though.

[Fynn]

BRING ME MY IZJS FOR VITA DAMNIT!!!!!

[Galuf]

yeah in the year 2657 sadly

[Formalhaut]

BRING ME MY IZJS FOR VITA DAMNIT!!!!!

And make it compatible for the PS TV so I can play it on the big screen. :jess:

[Fynn]

Or they could go the FFX route and make both a PS4 and Vita version

[Formalhaut]

Or they could go the FFX route and make both a PS4 and Vita version

What is actually stopping them from doing a remake? Too focused on FFXV and the FFVII remake?

[Fynn]

I think they don't think it'll sell enough

[Hollycat]

I just want this last game remade for Vita and PS4. then I'll be done with remakes from that era

[Ayen]

Never gonna happen. Abandon all hope.

-dumps Hope into a trash compactor-

[Fynn]

Never gonna happen. Abandon all hope.

-dumps Hope into a trash compactor-

Serves the little fucker right

[Shauna]

Considering FFIX took...

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16 years to get a remake, we've got at least 6 more years until you should give up hope.

[Wolf Kanno]

Or they could go the FFX route and make both a PS4 and Vita version

What is actually stopping them from doing a remake? Too focused on FFXV and the FFVII remake?

From what I've read in interviews, part of it comes down to sales but the other part is whether the director wants to do it. VII and X happened because Kitase likes to dwell on his better days but in XII's case, we would have to talk with Ito or Akitiko Kawazu to get it to happen. Kawazu is busy working on a few projects for the SaGa franchises (his real baby) 25th Anniversary and Ito has been MIA since XII IZJS was released. His last time being mentioned on working was a designer for some browser based game back in 2008 and the developers of Dissidia asking him whether they got Gabranth and Vaan right for the game.

Chances are, the game will see a Steam Release before an actual HD Remake and I doubt IZJS will be there first choice for that.

[Bubba]

I just want this last game remade for Vita and PS4. then I'll be done with remakes from that era

Yeah, my feelings exactly.

I still have my PS2 copy and a working PS2 now. It's on my list of games to play but it's a very long smurfing list.

[FinalxxSin]

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Remake no, but remaster yes. The announcement was suppose to be remaster instead of remake.
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[fat_moogle]

Wasn't that announcement a misunderstanding about a remastered soundtrack?

[Rin Heartilly]

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Remake no, but remaster yes. The announcement was suppose to be remaster instead of remake.
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I was going to mention this! But didn't the guy who announced it screw up? I heard that it wasn't confirmed :S

[Vyk]

Considering FFIX took...

...

16 years to get a remake, we've got at least 6 more years until you should give up hope.

Is this referring to a PSN port or am I missing something?

[Ayen]

Considering FFIX took...

...

16 years to get a remake, we've got at least 6 more years until you should give up hope.

Is this referring to a PSN port or am I missing something?

FFIX is getting a HD re-release on Steam.

[Loony BoB]

I can see FFXII getting re-released in HD sometime. I don't think it has much to do with how much they worry about how it will sell - they remade FFII, for goodness sake. I think it is more a case of "how easy will it be to remake/port this game, and will the older consoles be old enough to justify people buying a new game". I think we'll see FFXII ported to PSN eventually though, at the bare minimum, and I would be surprised if it never gets the HD treatment applied.

[Mirage]

In terms of ease, I think FF12 is a simpler game to "remaster" than FF9.

[FinalxxSin]

I was going to mention this! But didn't the guy who announced it screw up? I heard that it wasn't confirmed :S
Far as I know, the only mistake was the person talking about it too early and getting remake confused for remaster. There is no reason for Square not to, especially since the western part of the world never got the international version in the first place. Although FFXII isn't my favorite out of the FF mainline games I have played, I would be willing to play through it again to fight the five judges.

[Slothy]

In terms of ease, I think FF12 is a simpler game to "remaster" than FF9.

I guess that partly depends on whether or not they backed up the release code in a format they can still access.

[Mirage]

I can't imagine they wouldn't, when they did with FFX, X-2 and FFXI.

[DMKA]

A full on remaster will probably not happen anytime soon, but it'll probably get ported to PC eventually, if the recent actions of Square Enix are anything to go by. But knowing Square Enix it'll just be a lazy 1:1 port with no extra touches that's poorly optimized (although, FFXII upscaled with its original PS2 graphics still looks fantastic).

That's probably as good as you're going to get though. FFXII gets treated like the ugly stepchild of FF games by Square Enix for some strange reason. That, and FFXII used all sorts of wacky techniques to get it to look and play the way it did on the PS2, even going as far as registering double the framerate that the game is actually running to get everything to sync correctly. Any remastering or porting would be quite a bit more difficult than it was with FFX/X-2.

[Vyk]

I just got a HDMI adapter for my PS2 and it looks pretty great, but I can sympathize with people wanting to not have to dig out an old console. And if the PS3 and 4 won't do it, then I approve of Steam getting to carry the torch

[Mirage]

what exactly does the hdmi adapter do?

[Vyk]

I don't know the specifics of it. But it plays in 480p/i. I believe it converts the analog signal. But without the big expensive converter. I'm not sure how they accomplished it. They're about $20 or less on Amazon. And there's one for the Wii as well. We have a component cable hooked up to the other PS2 in the house, and I was going to just buy another one of those, but this is handy since HDMI is basically the standard now. But the quality is pretty much the same since it's just the component signal displayed with HDMI input. It doesn't do any upscaling or anything that I'm aware of. But my TV isn't grumpy about displaying 480p or 480i so it all works out. You still see pixelation and jagged edges, but it's crisp pixelation and jaggies lol

[Mirage]

so it's basically the same as my component cable that i plug directly into my tv, then, i guess

[Vyk]

Effectively, yes. It's better for me since I have a Wii component cable, and a PS2 component cable. And both TVs in the house only have one component input. We used to have to buy an expensive converter, but this is much easier, and smaller. I can take the PS2 anywhere now and there's always an HDMI input available

There's also a really noticeable difference in quality. Which probably goes without saying, but since I had both options already available on the Wii, I'd experimented a bit with things like Xenoblade chronicle, and as pretty as that game is, it doesn't look a whole lot different in component. Maybe it upscales better on the WiiU. But FFXII has pretty big difference between the two; actually the PS2 itself seems to benefit a lot more than the Wii. I'm not sure why that is, but its definitely worth getting a component cable or a similar adapter of sorts to mine

[Mirage]

Well, PS2's standard cables are far worse than the Wii's standard cables. Probably?

Composite is color bleeding galore.