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Galuf
09-05-2016, 07:35 PM
or even a boss.

and if there is im going Flabergounded.

Fynn
09-05-2016, 07:48 PM
In Planescape: Torment, depending on your playstyle, you can theoretically beat the entire game fighting only four battles. The final battle isn't one of them. The "final boss" can be talked down, actually.

Galuf
09-05-2016, 07:50 PM
/me is Flabergounded


honestly ME1 was close. well idk ive only been paragon so idk if theres a fight with regular Saren

FFNut
09-05-2016, 08:00 PM
Fable II you could fight him, or just wait and someone shoots him and the game ends.

Wolf Kanno
09-05-2016, 08:35 PM
ME3 doesn't really have a final boss, unless you count talking/shooting the Illusive Man but that's way scripted than a real boss setting.

In SMTIII: Nocturne, if you choose the King of the Vortex World Path, the Normal Final Boss refuses to fight you because he's too disgusted by your wishy-washy, indecisive nature and just lets the world stay the way it is. Which is rather amusing to me.

I do feel like I'm missing a very obvious game. I'll come back to you.

Vyk
09-06-2016, 05:13 AM
I haven't played through it, but I've heard one of the first 2 Fallout games your final boss is some computer and you can talk it down. In fact, I'm not sure there's even a possibility for a fight, yo may actually HAVE to talk your way through that ending

I wouldn't be surprised if Arcana: Of Magic and Steamworks Obscura or wahtever it was called had a similar mechanic. I know even less about that game, but but was made by a lot of similar people to Fallout

So uh, I guess good odds are on games by Black Isle, Troika, Obsidian, and InXile. They were all formed from people of similar mindsets and backgrounds and usually have a lot of key figures involved in development

Spuuky
09-06-2016, 07:53 AM
You can beat Fallout 1 and 2 both without combat.

Wolf Kanno
09-07-2016, 08:54 AM
Battletech:The Crescent Hawk's Inception doesn't end with a boss battle, in fact the game doesn't even really have "boss"battles. The final section is discovering a hidden base the MC's father had left behind that contained a cache of Star League era Mechs and gears, which you could use to rebuild the Crescent Hawk Battalion. The whole sequence is actually a puzzle trying to get around the security which wasn't lethal, just cut off access to where you needed to go.

NeoCracker
09-10-2016, 07:24 AM
...I Believe Ultima IV: Quest of the Avatar has no final boss. I could be wrong though, never actually beat it. :p

Ultima Shadow
09-10-2016, 10:51 AM
Atelier Rorona never had any kind of final boss battle.

Mister Adequate
09-10-2016, 11:15 PM
You can beat Fallout 1 and 2 both without combat.

Yeah this is what I came here to say. You can talk to the final boss of F1 and convince them they're wrong, but it takes some prepwork before you arrive in the last dungeon so you have certain evidence.

sharkythesharkdogg
09-13-2016, 05:34 PM
I can't complain too much about what they did with the newer Fallouts, but New Vegas is still the only one that comes close to recreating an environment where it feels like your alignment and choices matter as much as they did in the first two games.

Maybe it's just nostalgia.

Slothy
09-14-2016, 05:45 PM
I can't complain too much about what they did with the newer Fallouts, but New Vegas is still the only one that comes close to recreating an environment where it feels like your alignment and choices matter as much as they did in the first two games.

Maybe it's just nostalgia.

It's not nostalgia. I've only played a small amount of the first two and New Vegas is on another level compared to 3 and 4 when it comes to choices mattering. Hell, compared to most games period.

Mister Adequate
09-15-2016, 07:01 PM
Yeah Obsidian know their shit.

Though I don't actually think you can avoid fighting the last boss in Pillars of Eternity, but there are good reasons for that. Said boss is... devoted to their cause, shall we say.

Wolf Kanno
09-16-2016, 08:22 PM
While there is a final boss in the games, Shin Megami Tensei 1 had this amusing thing where your final boss is determined by your alignment. What makes it amusing is that depending on your alignment, you could actually recruit the final boss of your own alignment and use them to beat up the opposing alignment boss.

Also DQVI has an optional boss you can fight who is way more powerful than the final boss. Beating him though has him destroy the final boss for you.

Mister Adequate
09-23-2016, 02:53 PM
ME3 doesn't really have a final boss, unless you count talking/shooting the Illusive Man but that's way scripted than a real boss setting.

Someone forgot the heroic Marauder Shields :cry:

Fynn
09-23-2016, 02:55 PM
While there is a final boss in the games, Shin Megami Tensei 1 had this amusing thing where your final boss is determined by your alignment. What makes it amusing is that depending on your alignment, you could actually recruit the final boss of your own alignment and use them to beat up the opposing alignment boss.

Also DQVI has an optional boss you can fight who is way more powerful than the final boss. Beating him though has him destroy the final boss for you.

But you can't do this the first time you beat the game. To access the optional dungeon to that optional boss you first need to beat the main story and load up your save file.

FFNut
09-23-2016, 07:05 PM
Would the Harvest Moon series qualify as he have a goal, but there really isn't a battle system to fight and it is qualified as a RPG still in terms of play style.

Sephiroth
09-24-2016, 01:33 AM
Atelier Rorona never had any kind of final boss battle.


Eh ~

If you want to get all the stuff for all endings and ultimately True Ending and all trophies you have to beat Masked G, Iron Giant, all Dragons and the Demon. The last one is normally the Demon. He might not be a "traditional" final boss but he is here.

Depending on how much you want to call a Hack 'n Slay like Drakengard an RPG and then want to "disqualify" the last battle as a "Final Boss" Battle for the entire reason that it consits of an idiotic rhythmic game you might say the Mother Angel on Timeline E and Deflowering Zero on Timeline D for Drakengard 1 and Drakengard 3 are no final bosses.

I call them final bosses nonetheless.