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Freya
06-14-2017, 09:00 PM
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So Square Enix has made it official. Final Fantasy XV and all the games, shows, and movie are now under one umbrella. This is the Final Fantasy XV Universe. They released a trailer for it at E3 2017.

The Universe contains:

Platinum Demo – Final Fantasy XV
A King's Tale: Final Fantasy XV
Brotherhood: Final Fantasy XV
Final Fantasy XV Prologue Parting Ways
Kingsglaive: Final Fantasy XV
Final Fantasy XV
Justice Monsters Five
King's Knight -Wrath of the Dark Dragon- (http://home.eyesonff.com/content.php/4077-King-s-Knight-Wrath-of-the-Dark-Dragon-A-XV-Mobile-game)
Final Fantasy XV: Episode Gladiolus
Final Fantasy XV: Episode Prompto
Monster of the Deep: Final Fantasy XV (http://home.eyesonff.com/content.php/4076-A-Fishing-Game-Monster-of-the-Deep-Final-Fantasy-XV-Coming-to-Playstation-VR)


With future entries that haven't had confirmed with trailers yet:

Final Fantasy XV: Episode Ignis
Multiplayer Expansion: Comrades


During an interview director Hajime Tabata said that Final Fantasy XV is no longer part of the Fabula Nova Crystallis: Final Fantasy. (Which included Final Fantasy XIII, Final Fantasy XIII-2, Lightning Returns: Final Fantasy XIII, Final Fantasy Type-0, and Final Fantasy Agito, as well as XV's previously known self of Final Fantasy Versus XIII) The Universe of Final Fantasy XV is standalone despite its original development.

Check out the trailer:


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In this trailer we also get the release date of the DLC Episode: Prompto; a stand alone scenario. That date is June 27th! Also on that date, you'll be getting an update to the base game that allows you to take your royal car off-roading! It's called the "Regalia Type-D". It'll be released the same day as the Prompto DLC.

What are your thoughts about Final Fantasy XV being its own universe? Are you excited for the new DLC? Want to go off roading? Share your thoughts!

Formalhaut
06-14-2017, 09:05 PM
FFXV is the only game to reject being part of one umbrella grouping and make another for itself.

Scruffington
06-14-2017, 09:07 PM
Can they just focus on the DLC they promised instead of spamming us with pointless minigames?

Freya
06-14-2017, 09:11 PM
Can they just focus on the DLC they promised instead of spamming us with pointless minigames?

SE Exec: Did you hear that? They want more Mobile games!

Sephiroth
06-14-2017, 09:17 PM
Amusing that "FFXV is no longer part of the FNC" when Kitase-san once said it still is a part a while before it came out. Even without directly sharing the same universe. But I guess sometimes you just don't get identical answers, just like Hashimoto previously also mentioned own universes. It is always the best to ask the writers.

Psychotic
06-14-2017, 09:17 PM
Join the evolution? What does that even mean? http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e373/photobucketamazingness/emot-psyduck.gif

Freya
06-14-2017, 09:24 PM
We're evolving with a Moonstone into Finalest Fantasy

Formalhaut
06-14-2017, 09:39 PM
Join the evolution? What does that even mean? http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e373/photobucketamazingness/emot-psyduck.gif

"Quick, let's come up with a word that isn't revolution!"

Psychotic
06-14-2017, 09:40 PM
We're evolving with a Moonstone into Finalest FantasyThe Finalest of Fantasies is an announcement trailer for a mobile game. It features Lightning dressed in an outfit comprised entirely of belts stamping on a human face, forever [Please Look Forward To It].

The thing Square-Enix don't get is that a pinball game and a fishing game are totally different genres to an RPG. I like Final Fantasy because I like RPGs. I give absolutely zero smurfs about pinball and VR fishing. Having them vaguely tangentially related to a Final Fantasy game does not make me want to actually play them.

Freya
06-14-2017, 09:41 PM
What happened to that Prompto VR thing? Is that part of the Episode Prompto?

oh shit they're probably reformatting it to be a photography game.

Formalhaut
06-14-2017, 09:42 PM
We're evolving with a Moonstone into Finalest FantasyThe Finalest of Fantasies is an announcement trailer for a mobile game. It features Lightning dressed in an outfit comprised entirely of belts stamping on a human face, forever [Please Look Forward To It].

The thing Square-Enix don't get is that a pinball game and a fishing game are totally different genres to an RPG. I like Final Fantasy because I like RPGs. I give absolutely zero smurfs about pinball and VR fishing. Having them vaguely tangentially related to a Final Fantasy game does not make me want to actually play them.

This. The main thing I'd want people to remember about FFXV if I was SE is the fantastic story, the amazing gameplay, the graphics, not a smurfing fishing minigame.

KleinerKiller
06-14-2017, 09:46 PM
I really like XV. I really do not like this idea.

The game barely scraped by a basic definition of "complete," leaving a lot of things unnecessarily offscreen or in tie-ins that you have to play or watch to understand anything. It had an amazing story and a lot of great characters despite that, but making it the foundation for its own universe seems incredibly foolhardy, and that's without even going into the fact that it appears to be heavily comprised of glorified party games that turn the whole thing into a joke.

Psychotic
06-14-2017, 09:49 PM
I'm appreciative of free content, like the monster truck Regalia looks fun. But here's the kicker, my FFXV experience is done for the foreseeable future. I beat it, got what I wanted out of it, and moved on. I'm not going to boot the thing back up just to be able to drive a monster truck around for a bit. I haven't even had the motivation to play the Episode Gladio DLC yet!

Also, including DLC is one thing, but they seriously can't be including a demo in their universe.

Scruffington
06-14-2017, 09:58 PM
I really like XV. I really do not like this idea.

The game barely scraped by a basic definition of "complete," leaving a lot of things unnecessarily offscreen or in tie-ins that you have to play or watch to understand anything. It had an amazing story and a lot of great characters despite that, but making it the foundation for its own universe seems incredibly foolhardy, and that's without even going into the fact that it appears to be heavily comprised of glorified party games that turn the whole thing into a joke.

I completely disagree. The story and characters were seriously lacking any depth, and were not fleshed out in any way.

Seeing this entire "FFXV Universe" makes me resent Square Enix even more for this disaster of a game. They should have given the game another year of development time, ditched all of the irrelevant minigames and film, and focused on creating a complete experience for the long time fans who had been patiently waiting for it.

Instead, SE is basically slapping us all in the face. They're content to drag the FF brand through the mud by selling us Cup Noodles and joke minigames.

Happy 30th Anniversary, Final Fantasy fans. This is what you get.

Freya
06-14-2017, 10:04 PM
I'm appreciative of free content, like the monster truck Regalia looks fun. But here's the kicker, my FFXV experience is done for the foreseeable future. I beat it, got what I wanted out of it, and moved on. I'm not going to boot the thing back up just to be able to drive a monster truck around for a bit. I haven't even had the motivation to play the Episode Gladio DLC yet!

Also, including DLC is one thing, but they seriously can't be including a demo in their universe.

probably because that demo was the carbuncle one. And that's not actually in the game anywhere but there

Psychotic
06-14-2017, 10:09 PM
Don't get me wrong, I liked Carbuncle and enjoyed the demo when I played it (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wgDbZaRQ-PQ). However, "Ooh, imagine Noctis was a kid and got shrunk in a room full of giant toys!" was just a fun little taster for the real thing and not something that adds any sort of value to the Universe.

Sephiroth
06-14-2017, 10:36 PM
Don't get me wrong, I liked Carbuncle and enjoyed the demo when I played it (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wgDbZaRQ-PQ). However, "Ooh, imagine Noctis was a kid and got shrunk in a room full of giant toys!" was just a fun little taster for the real thing and not something that adds any sort of value to the Universe.

It has a much value as a lot of other things in the main title that barely has a story part. It is a dream of Noctis with him remembering what his father told him. I imagine that is more than the fishing thing or others. Other than FFVII where really every single thing adds to the story/overall world lore/story catalogue if you want to call it that (CC, BC, VII, AC, DoC with only LO being a re-interpretation), including novellas (OtWtaS, LT:TKaa, even MwttP), same for XIII which also has novellas like Episode Zero and the Fragment one after XIII as well as the short thing about Lightning after XIII-3. Another good example is KH.

Aulayna
06-14-2017, 11:03 PM
Wasn't this announced and revealed at the Uncovered event last year? I could be wrong, the logo seems familiar, then again I guess it's possibly because there's so many FFXV things now I'm getting it mixed up with something else. xD

Wolf Kanno
06-14-2017, 11:41 PM
Oh Squenix, every time you look like you've learned from your mistakes, you turn around and show us that you learned nothing.

On the other hand, are any of us surprised here? I mean it's not not like SE hasn't been milking/beating a dead horse with the FF franchise for years now; we shouldn't really be surprised that XV wasn't going to get the same treatment. I'm actually surprised they haven't teased a sequel no one asked for yet.

Scotty_ffgamer
06-14-2017, 11:57 PM
I'm mostly with Psychotic. I even got the season pass, but I've had no motivation to go back for episode gladio or anything. I had fun with the game and have been done once I beat it.

I have no real interest in this universe thing. Honestly, the game has possibly been the biggest disappointment out of the FF series for me. I might eventually jump back in to try out the dlc since I already put money to it, but I'm ready to move on to other worlds and stories.

fat_moogle
06-15-2017, 12:27 PM
I'm mostly with Psychotic. I even got the season pass, but I've had no motivation to go back for episode gladio or anything. I had fun with the game and have been done once I beat it.

I have no real interest in this universe thing. Honestly, the game has possibly been the biggest disappointment out of the FF series for me. I might eventually jump back in to try out the dlc since I already put money to it, but I'm ready to move on to other worlds and stories.
Episode Gladiolus is extremely short, but the gameplay is pretty fun - you should give it a go, and then get back to whatever it is you're playing. I haven't touched FFXV again since completing EG but I'll be getting Episode Prompto when I get paid at the end of the month. Don't have any interest in going back to the main game, though - I couldn't be bothered to get the flying regalia and I certainly don't care about the off-road regalia, either - that should have been there from the beginning. Then again, a complete story should have been there, too, and me buying these DLC are fueling SE to say "LOOK, PEOPLE ARE BUYING IT!". Am I a bad person?! :(

Wolf Kanno
06-15-2017, 06:34 PM
I haven't touched the DLC myself because I can't be bothered and I'm pretty much against the idea of fixing a game after release unless it's a major bug or just minor fixes. It makes my blood boil just a little bit that in three or four years from now, we'll probably have the FFXV we should have had last year thanks to all the DLC.

I can sympathize that XV's disastrous development history forced the game to be released early, so I can look past some of it's more glaring flaws on that note, but this slow burn of fixing everything kind of sends a bad message overall. I would be really annoyed if SE used this model as an excuse to simply release their games earlier than they should be so they can just patch it later.

Freya
06-15-2017, 06:40 PM
Why does it feel like all their games of late go through a development hell.

I think they are already using it as a model to release things early and patch later.

maybee
06-15-2017, 09:47 PM
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Vyk
06-16-2017, 04:42 AM
Why does it feel like all their games of late go through a development hell.

I think they are already using it as a model to release things early and patch later.
It works for EA/BioWareJr. It worked for Activision. It worked for WB. BandaiNamco aren't innocent either. And it's not even new. The situation with Obsidian and New Vegas was basically this, when ZeniMax forced them to release it rather than delay it, and screw them out of royalties. And Bethesda Sr. has become notorious for it since as well. It's sadly a business model that works, and Square have taken notice

And it's one of those stupid things where if we boycott it, that just hurts the developers and they get laid off for making a game that under-performed, rather than the publisher realizing they're meddling too much

Wolf Kanno
06-16-2017, 04:50 AM
Why does it feel like all their games of late go through a development hell.

I think they are already using it as a model to release things early and patch later.
It works for EA/BioWareJr. It worked for Activision. It worked for WB. BandaiNamco aren't innocent either. And it's not even new. The situation with Obsidian and New Vegas was basically this, when ZeniMax forced them to release it rather than delay it, and screw them out of royalties. And Bethesda Sr. has become notorious for it since as well. It's sadly a business model that works, and Square have taken notice

And it's one of those stupid things where if we boycott it, that just hurts the developers and they get laid off for making a game that under-performed, rather than the publisher realizing they're meddling too much

Yeah but in SE's case, they are the publisher and developer.

Vyk
06-16-2017, 05:18 AM
Fair point, but it's still a mindset of release early, get money, fix later. Even if their mindset isn't as malicious as the others. It's still sad

Wolf Kanno
06-16-2017, 05:55 AM
Fair point, but it's still a mindset of release early, get money, fix later. Even if their mindset isn't as malicious as the others. It's still sad

Oh no, I was implying that screwing them out of money wasn't going to hurt as many innocents.