View Full Version : Death of a Fansite - An EoFF RPG
Del Murder
06-24-2017, 08:17 AM
I think I've found all the optional super bosses, although I can only beat 2 of them. Tell me if I missed one:
The Man - Beat
Steve - Beat, but damn that Poo attack!
Cid - Smurf The Highwind, man, smurf it
RSL, Unne, Leeza - Seems like they will be toughest of all, I'm scared
Psy's Party - With the proper setup it's over quickly, I just went in willy nilly to check it out
Anything else left to find?
Psychotic
06-24-2017, 08:19 AM
That's them! Good hunting.
Wolf Kanno
06-24-2017, 08:35 AM
The RNG in this fight is a bit annoying, they keep getting their turn calculated on top of each other making Slow useless, and Shellga really doesn't seem to help much against their group spell.
Psychotic
06-24-2017, 09:12 AM
You will start to see enemies that do attacks that ignore your magic defence and the idea is to debuff their magic. Although if you're fighting Gilgamesh 3, I don't think he has any and Shellga should mitigate his damage. He does have a scripted Beatrixesque blast you down to 1 HP attack, but he falls asleep afterwards.
LunarWeaver
06-24-2017, 09:27 AM
I really want to play this, but I'm a filthy Mac user! Hopefully it's not too much work making it compatible and that happens someday. Congrats on completing another RPG, Psy~ Dis why you the coolest.
Psychotic
06-24-2017, 09:32 AM
I really want to play this, but I'm a filthy Mac user! Hopefully it's not too much work making it compatible and that happens someday. Congrats on completing another RPG, Psy~ Dis why you the coolest.I can do it TODAY if you want. I have no way of testing it or bug fixing it though so I can't guarantee it won't go to hell. Can Macs open .rar files?
Bubba
06-24-2017, 09:32 AM
I really want to play this, but I'm a filthy Mac user! Hopefully it's not too much work making it compatible and that happens someday. Congrats on completing another RPG, Psy~ Dis why you the coolest.
I think Psy is working on it as I only have a Mac too!
LunarWeaver
06-24-2017, 09:41 AM
I really want to play this, but I'm a filthy Mac user! Hopefully it's not too much work making it compatible and that happens someday. Congrats on completing another RPG, Psy~ Dis why you the coolest.I can do it TODAY if you want. I have no way of testing it or bug fixing it though so I can't guarantee it won't go to hell. Can Macs open .rar files?
I believe so! The Unarchiver should open just about anything.
Psychotic
06-24-2017, 09:41 AM
Apparently Macs CAN open .rar files. http://www.wikihow.com/Open-Rar-Files-on-Mac-OS-X
Rightio lads, Mac OSX version made. Here it is: https://www.dropbox.com/s/3jx82dgd1tcdjff/Death%20of%20a%20Fansite%20OSX.rar?dl=0
I have no idea if this even works so please let me know!
Psychotic
06-24-2017, 09:44 AM
Also for those who are interested, RPG Maker MV is on the Steam Sale. 65% off, which is what I think I got it for. Still pricey as all hell but worth a look if you're curious about doing something yourself. I can personally say I got my money's worth.
LunarWeaver
06-24-2017, 09:50 AM
Aw fish, for me it just says The application Game.app can't be opened. I'm not really a techie person though. Could be me. If it works for someone else on Mac spill your secrets. :jess:
Psychotic
06-24-2017, 09:52 AM
https://forums.rpgmakerweb.com/index.php?threads/failed-deployment-to-mac-os-x.55209/
Does any of this make sense?
Wolf Kanno
06-24-2017, 10:00 AM
You will start to see enemies that do attacks that ignore your magic defence and the idea is to debuff their magic. Although if you're fighting Gilgamesh 3, I don't think he has any and Shellga should mitigate his damage. He does have a scripted Beatrixesque blast you down to 1 HP attack, but he falls asleep afterwards.
Finally took him down, had to finally use Bubba after ignoring him for most of the game and drop Psychotic for Scruffy cause stealing stats seems to work better than using protection magic. Still a tough fight but it helped that Gilgamesh 3 kept using status magic and actually missing most of the time.
Onto the new "twist" in the game. I swear you thought this all up Psy because of that little "incident" from a few years back.
I recommend using Formy, btw!
Wolf Kanno
06-24-2017, 10:12 AM
I recommend using Formy, btw!
Sadly, he's still the only character I haven't bothered with. I just had a good flow going with my team. Also, after dealing with their scenario I still stand by my original feeling that Christmas should have been the secret character, cause OMG that was hilarious. :ffvilaugh:
It was so hilarious that Psy managed to inadvertently summon Christmas back into the forum.
Bubba
06-24-2017, 10:21 AM
had to finally use Bubba after ignoring him for most of the game
Screw you, man
:colbert:
theundeadhero
06-24-2017, 10:48 AM
You're amazing, Bubba. They just don't know. Yet :shifty:
I mean, usually if I have to pick a support unit, I'll choose Formy over Bubba, but Bubba definitely has his unique uses!
... unlike Fox
Night Fury
06-24-2017, 10:51 AM
Hey I've had some wins because of Fox.
I mean, I get how people could use him, but to me, I always struggle with finding a use for him that someone else couldn't fill and do a better job at it
theundeadhero
06-24-2017, 11:01 AM
I stand by my "yet" :shifty:
Night Fury
06-24-2017, 11:02 AM
Evil Anime Girl is quite lethal - also, being able to put Black Magic on him and have him as a third 'mage' in my group is awesome.
Psychotic
06-24-2017, 11:03 AM
Fox does suffer from jack-of-all-trades syndrome, although I do think his Runic limit break is pretty broken. I think I said in Discord that I'd like to make a battle to play up to his strengths, an enemy which switches between being magic immune and physical immune.
Which brings me onto an idea. People have mentioned the idea of DLC. I've really enjoyed thinking up challenging bosses and such like, and I am wondering if other people might get the same pleasure. Would anyone be interested in a kind of design-a-boss thing? I could make them, and then we could then stick a group of them, say 5 to 10 at most in a DLC, and then maybe even (this is optional) hold a vote afterwards on who the most fun/challenging/etc boss was.
I guess I just gravitate more towards teams focused on physical damage
Night Fury
06-24-2017, 11:05 AM
For DLC, I'd love some other little stories using other members.
I'd love to play as the Witch Trio for example, and go on a mission turning people into frogs. I'd love to play as Jiro as he builds his Utopia!
You could do a tiny solo dungeon for each playable character that they have to take on alone. That would definitely switch up the gameplay, as the main game is very much focused on party building - in this potential scenario, you'd have to really think how to cover a single character's weaknesses and play up their strengths without relying on other party members.
Psychotic
06-24-2017, 11:17 AM
For DLC, I'd love some other little stories using other members.
I'd love to play as the Witch Trio for example, and go on a mission turning people into frogs. I'd love to play as Jiro as he builds his Utopia!That would be fun! I did consider making a Toad spell, actually.
You could do a tiny solo dungeon for each playable character that they have to take on alone. That would definitely switch up the gameplay, as the main game is very much focused on party building - in this potential scenario, you'd have to really think how to cover a single character's weaknesses and play up their strengths without relying on other party members.That is a cool idea, as would be (fixed) groups of 2's and 3's.
theundeadhero
06-24-2017, 11:23 AM
The solo character challenges would be fun, but the boss you fight would have to be specifically tailored to each character, as well.
This dude at the top is super frustrating
If the RNG hates you, you dead
Psychotic
06-24-2017, 11:49 AM
Have been for a few hours, yeah.Dude nice work! No, that boss does not adapt. My advice is to try to hit some of the status effects, you should have plenty of room to make sure all four are possible. Draw Fire is also pretty useful in physical stages, I think stage 3 especially. Also if there's any phase shift that's been giving you grief, save up your best limits for that and burst through it to get onto the next one.Here's my advice to hero on him!
I've been doing exactly that. But sometimes I waste three turns spamming statuses, to no effect, and he has some INSANELY brutal AOE attacks. I managed to get to the final stage - he opened it with an attack that knocked out three party members (including me, so bummer), even though they were at full health.
So yeah. The RNG hates my guts.
theundeadhero
06-24-2017, 01:01 PM
On that fight I used the relatively easier second phase to build full limit breaks, then unloaded with them in phase three, which blasted through that phase and turned the fight into a race to kill him before he killed me.
Sephiroth
06-24-2017, 02:29 PM
Team:
Formalhaut
Pumpkin
MVP Bubba
Psychotic
Can you even believe it Fynn
DAMNIT! I did not know I have to save after the final battle. Now I have to redo it.
http://www.bilder-upload.eu/upload/1d874e-1498311077.png
Sephiroth
06-24-2017, 02:59 PM
http://www.bilder-upload.eu/upload/7b1bde-1498312821.jpg
http://www.bilder-upload.eu/upload/1612c8-1498312873.jpg
Sephiroth
06-24-2017, 03:09 PM
http://www.bilder-upload.eu/upload/f0dd59-1498313428.jpg
theundeadhero
06-24-2017, 03:12 PM
Those are really good.
Psychotic
06-24-2017, 03:15 PM
I am grinning like an idiot, I love the fan art. Thank you so much!
Sephiroth
06-24-2017, 03:20 PM
http://www.bilder-upload.eu/upload/ca71cd-1498314126.jpg
Sephiroth
06-24-2017, 03:28 PM
http://www.bilder-upload.eu/upload/17d78b-1498314611.jpg
Shauna
06-24-2017, 03:29 PM
Psy did you ever imagine the day would come that you'd have made a game that got itself some fanart?
Psychotic
06-24-2017, 03:31 PM
Psy did you ever imagine the day would come that you'd have made a game that got itself some fanart?It's why I love this bloody website.
Sephiroth
06-24-2017, 03:47 PM
http://www.bilder-upload.eu/upload/be806f-1498315776.jpg
Um, my fanart was still first tho
Psychotic
06-24-2017, 03:52 PM
Um, my fanart was still first thoYours is official artwork not fanart tbf.
Sephiroth
06-24-2017, 03:55 PM
http://www.bilder-upload.eu/upload/6650c2-1498316261.jpg
Um, my fanart was still first thoYours is official artwork not fanart tbf.
That's pretty debatable. I mean, sure, it's in the game on launch, but I also drew it based on already existing assets. So it's in this weird limbo between fan art and official art
Sephiroth
06-24-2017, 04:13 PM
Bonus Out of Memory Sketch
http://www.bilder-upload.eu/upload/fdb772-1498317297.png
theundeadhero
06-24-2017, 04:15 PM
AAAAHHAHAHAHAAHAHAHA
Perfect
Fynn, your artwork and musical additions were amazing. I was impressed with the music you added upon instantly hearing it.
Psychotic
06-24-2017, 04:20 PM
Bonus Out of Memory Sketch
http://www.bilder-upload.eu/upload/fdb772-1498317297.pnghahahahaha holy shit look at him
AAAAHHAHAHAHAAHAHAHA
Perfect
Fynn, your artwork and musical additions were amazing. I was impressed with the music you added upon instantly hearing it.
Aww, thanks :D
Sephiroth
06-24-2017, 04:38 PM
IN LOVING MEMORY OF THIS ASSHOLE
http://www.bilder-upload.eu/upload/1e8a33-1498318824.png
Well, I beat him. Finally. Yaaaay
Time for the extra stuff!
I love that Wolf Kanno's class is Wolf Canoe :D
Krissy - AWESOME desert theme!
Vincent - again, awesome theme in the staff retirement oasis!
Wolf Kanno
06-24-2017, 06:27 PM
had to finally use Bubba after ignoring him for most of the game
Screw you, man
:colbert:
If it makes you feel better. You were my MVP during the Gilgamesh 3 battle. Alongside Scruffy. Your skill set doesn't mesh with my playstyle but your Limits are OP.
Sephiroth
06-24-2017, 06:43 PM
LOL Eastern European Girls. Psychotic, you are a mad man. A mad, psychotic man.
Wolf Kanno
06-24-2017, 06:46 PM
W~Post!
Yeah, I'm all for DLC missions and I'll second the Witches Trio as being one of them cause they were hilarious. Two other scenarios that would be cool is Christmas' epic battle to stop Old Manus and capture him. and a chapter about Cid Knight's during the early era battling against the most infamous trolls like Devil Man, demondude, and some others I'm sure the staff could come up with. You can also dramatize a Cid Knights Selection event or one of the Elections as well.
Lyndis Highwind
06-24-2017, 07:27 PM
Man I'm super stuck at the floor 10 boss still! I've been taking a break because I just can't beat him...
Psychotic
06-24-2017, 07:34 PM
Man I'm super stuck at the floor 10 boss still! I've been taking a break because I just can't beat him...Maybe stock up on fire resist accessories, and confuse/sleep resist accessories or restorative items. Remember he gets stronger as he gets weaker, so hold back on hitting him hard with limits until near the end. He can of course be Slowed or Confused.
Scotty_ffgamer
06-24-2017, 09:46 PM
I do love the idea of DLC but I can't help with any ideas until I actually play the thing. I could see different April fools jokes end up as special dlc missions/events though, like with the thunderdome/Del Murder leaving staff. That was a fun time.
I need to see which rpg maker I have. I got it from a humble bundle and have never used it.
FFNut
06-24-2017, 10:25 PM
I have MV the same engine that Psy used, and also all the plugins he used. I just suffer with mapping for the most part as I never think my maps are good enough.
Just finished my first optional boss - apparently the hardest one. Good God that was a frustrating fight.
FFNut
06-24-2017, 11:03 PM
I have been with kids all weekend so I am still on floor one.
krissy
06-24-2017, 11:58 PM
ok got all the optionals down
gg
really cute
good job everyone!!!!
also lol @ the post credits ending
Pumpkin
06-25-2017, 12:04 AM
Could you add the patches to the first post please so they're easy to find?
Slothy
06-25-2017, 03:08 AM
Moved into the post game. Haven't beaten any of the bonus bosses though.
As far as games released this year I say this is GOTY. And I'm not even joking about that. I love this wonderfully balanced battle system.
Psychotic
06-25-2017, 07:49 AM
Could you add the patches to the first post please so they're easy to find?Done!
Has anyone been able to get the Mac version yet? I think Bubba, KleinerKiller and Kydru all have them. https://forums.rpgmakerweb.com/index.php?threads/failed-deployment-to-mac-os-x.55209/ this thread seems to know more about making it work than I do!
Psychotic
06-25-2017, 01:08 PM
http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e373/photobucketamazingness/FPC_zps1exzkw2q.png
http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e373/photobucketamazingness/FPC_zpszudyvuen.jpg
So this is a thing now.
theundeadhero
06-25-2017, 01:56 PM
It is a good thing. A beautiful thing!
Sephiroth
06-25-2017, 02:04 PM
WHAT IS THIS MADNESS, PSY! You better have him have a move called "Canonical Knowledge" that nullifies something.
Psychotic
06-25-2017, 02:10 PM
I'm glad you think so! I know a lot of people have some ideas of some wildly different settings and characters, but I wanted to ease into the DLC gently as well as reward people who have played and supported the game by making them characters or bosses.
You'll be able to use the existing 11 characters as well as 5 new ones. You'll also be able to get the new ones at the very start of the original DoaF if you ever want to replay the game. They won't appear in the major story scenes (Beginning, ending and the... place) but they'll do all the other usual interactions.
Del Murder - Dark Knight
Dealing heavy physical dark damage at the cost of health, as well as status effects. He also pushes allies into the line of fire at his own expense. Rumour has it that his Limit Break will do even more damage than Oilfield Fury, but at a very high cost.
krissy - Summoner
krissy has all of your favourite Final Fantasy summons like Ifrit, Shiva, Titan et al, doing AoE elemental damage. He also has a couple of utility summons like Carbuncle and Golem.
Night Fury - Dancer
Think Formalhaut, Bubba and Fynn rolled into one. Dances will do the same as Formy's debuffs, only this time they're AoE and will hit all enemies! Unlike with Formy they won't do any damage, however. She also has a handful of White Magic spells in case you wanted another source of Protect/Shellga.
Slothy - Sage
Speaking of another source of Protectga/Shellga, Slothy can use both Black and White Magic! The only abilities he can't use are Holy, Meteor and Flare, but everything else goes. His magic stat is lower than the original Black and White Mages to compensate. However, he will have an interesting limit break that will both deal damage to the enemies and heal the entire party.
theundeadhero - Cursed Mage
A brand new class! theundeadhero will deliver powerful healing to his allies, even more powerful than Fynn. However, it will be at a very high cost. For example, he can spit out regular Cure-alls as an ability, but it will take off 95% of his own health! He also has an Esuna-all ability too... whereby he sucks all the statuses off his friends and takes them on himself!
Our old friends Sephiroth, Vincent, Thunder God and starlet & Mirage will show up to give the party a really, really bad time, among others.
Night Fury
06-25-2017, 02:30 PM
Psy you are missing a trick not having the summoner of leviathan as a boss!!
Slothy
06-25-2017, 02:57 PM
Wooo! New characters! I'll finally be able to feed my narcissism!
krissy
06-25-2017, 02:59 PM
:blushblush:
I do have all the phone numbers of those guys Imean Shiva and ifrit and them
Night Fury
06-25-2017, 04:39 PM
Wooo! New characters! I'll finally be able to feed my narcissism!
Let's be narcissists together!
Psychotic
06-25-2017, 05:50 PM
72722
Did... did I go too far? Is it eye gougingly horrible?
Shauna
06-25-2017, 06:47 PM
Can you even go too far with Fluffy Puff?
Vincent, Thunder God
06-25-2017, 06:52 PM
Krissy - AWESOME desert theme!
Vincent - again, awesome theme in the staff retirement oasis!
Thanks! I haven't gotten to the end of the game yet but looking forward to checking out that area!
Our old friends Sephiroth, Vincent, Thunder God and starlet & Mirage will show up to give the party a really, really bad time, among others.
Hey, that's awesome that I'm a boss, looking forward to it! :D
Wolf Kanno
06-25-2017, 07:20 PM
Damn, wish I knew Dark Knight was a class choice back when they were debating my character class. Other than that, this looks like a blast and I can't wait to travel across Fluffy Puff with the new characters while listening to what I hope will be a lot of Aqua music.
Slothy
06-25-2017, 07:29 PM
I only just realized this morning that the reason my dude has a green mohawk is because that's what he looked like in the wrestling game where you made forum characters if I'm not mistaken.
FFNut
06-25-2017, 07:30 PM
Darn you Psy, You gave me the urge to play around with MV and today I created a Quina's kitchen. With a mix of harvest moon with a farming system and alchemy with purchasing recipes growing the ingredients, then mixing them to create positions with the recipe books. Forgot how fun these things are to build.
Psychotic
06-25-2017, 07:32 PM
I only just realized this morning that the reason my dude has a green mohawk is because that's what he looked like in the wrestling game where you made forum characters if I'm not mistaken.Indeed, though I think the 'hawk was blue in that. I did that in turn because you had a mohawk on Shlup's Sims 3. I don't know how or why this is canon, but this is how you are to me.
Darn you Psy, You gave me the urge to play around with MV and today I created a Quina's kitchen. With a mix of harvest moon with a farming system and alchemy with purchasing recipes growing the ingredients, then mixing them to create positions with the recipe books. Forgot how fun these things are to build.Sounds awesome! Any screenshots?
Vincent, Thunder God
06-25-2017, 07:34 PM
I found another bug - I went on the slide in the second town area and got stuck in the tires, can't move at all. Luckily I just saved though. :)
EDIT: Seems it only happens when you try to go on the slide from higher up - if you go from the bottom the animation works correctly, otherwise the animation triggers too high and you get stuck in the tires.
FFNut
06-25-2017, 07:35 PM
Not at the moment. My mapping was junk. I was just programming it in and made a potion that I grew the ingredients for myself. maybe I will play around with it some more. The crafting system seems to work so far though. Sure I can bug it up fairly easy though.
Slothy
06-25-2017, 09:28 PM
Jesus, I'd completely forgotten about Shlups Sims 3 playthrough. Can't say I've ever actually sported a mohawk before, but I'm fine with it since I dislike sharing pictures of myself anyway and it looks cool. Green happens to be my favourite colour as well.
Psychotic
06-25-2017, 10:24 PM
I'm having a lot of fun making skills for Del and theundeadhero. Del basically does awful things to the party for his own benefit, and theundeadhero does awful things to himself for the party's benefit.
Sephiroth
06-25-2017, 11:24 PM
I'm having a lot of fun making skills for Del and theundeadhero. Del basically does awful things to the party for his own benefit, and theundeadhero does awful things to himself for the party's benefit.
Now imagine if that Sephiroth guy was a party member.
starlet
06-26-2017, 12:10 AM
I should add that my hair is actually blue now and not purple, But I figured you wouldn't know that. To be fair, the color changes frequentlhy. I'm just letting you know for when I'm a boss! Also yay, I'm gonna be a boss!
I should add that my hair is actually blue now and not purple, But I figured you wouldn't know that. To be fair, the color changes frequentlhy. I'm just letting you know for when I'm a boss! Also yay, I'm gonna be a boss!
Cue starlet becoming a barrier-change boss where each mode she shifts into is associated with a different hair color
starlet
06-26-2017, 01:12 PM
I should add that my hair is actually blue now and not purple, But I figured you wouldn't know that. To be fair, the color changes frequentlhy. I'm just letting you know for when I'm a boss! Also yay, I'm gonna be a boss!
Cue starlet becoming a barrier-change boss where each mode she shifts into is associated with a different hair color
IS THIS POSSIBLE?
Psychotic
06-26-2017, 01:41 PM
I don't think so based on how the plugin I use to represent enemies as party members works but you never know!
Del Murder
06-26-2017, 05:19 PM
I will send a special prize to anyone who can complete a Del Murder solo run.
qwertysaur
06-27-2017, 01:00 AM
This looks amazing.
Wolf Kanno
06-27-2017, 05:56 AM
I'm finally in the post-game, loved the final boss and ending as well. Great job Psychotic. :plumcheer:
Good luck with some of the optional bosses. They're all pretty gimmicky, but some are SMT Strange Journey last boss-level luck-based fights :D I'm thinking of one fight in particular. Psy knows how much the RNG hates me.
Wolf Kanno
06-27-2017, 08:31 AM
Good luck with some of the optional bosses. They're all pretty gimmicky, but some are SMT Strange Journey last boss-level luck-based fights :D I'm thinking of one fight in particular. Psy knows how much the RNG hates me.
I hope that I had my full RNG screw from the Gilgamesh 3 fight, I don't think I've ever seen a boss consistently get so many double turns in a row even with Slow activated on them. I've tried one of them already and was destroyed pretty quickly.
Have you started using Fynn? ;)
Wolf Kanno
06-27-2017, 08:45 AM
Have you started using Fynn? ;)
You'll be happy to know that my team for the final story boss was Psychotic, Pumpkin, Nut, Freya, and you. I decided to err on the side of caution and switched out Shauna for you. I'm sorry Formy, I still haven't used you yet.
Freya wins my MVP Award though. Pumpkin is in second. I never removed either of them from my lineup the whole game.
Not as happy as I assume you are, since you've vinally caved and added in a dedicated healer :p
It's funny, in that I'm kind of the opposite. Freya saw a lot of use from me in the beginning, but later on I just struggled to find a good role for her. Pumpkin, on the other hand, was useful throughout the main game, but I exchanged her for Shauna for four of the five optional fights.
theundeadhero
06-27-2017, 11:51 AM
It's weird that Shauna was the optional one I switched in for fights I felt I could use optional secondary heals on, but almost never used Pumpkin, and Freya was a staple for most of it. Fynn was in most fights.
Wolf Kanno
06-27-2017, 05:59 PM
Not as happy as I assume you are, since you've vinally caved and added in a dedicated healer :p
It's funny, in that I'm kind of the opposite. Freya saw a lot of use from me in the beginning, but later on I just struggled to find a good role for her. Pumpkin, on the other hand, was useful throughout the main game, but I exchanged her for Shauna for four of the five optional fights.
I tend to be far more aggressive in in my playstyle, so I'll stick to builds with more dedicated offensive pushes. Not to mention that Lifesyphon + Healing Ointment Limit pretty much covered all of my healing needs, especially since you could get a rhythm going where she could pull off her limit almost every other round if you were careful enough. Her Drain Jump also meant she could heal herself and hurt the enemy as well.
I pulled your character into the final battle because it was spelled out to you that it was going to be an attrition type battle, so having a dedicated medic made sense, but I would also add that the special nature of the fight also gave me more options which finally made your character more appealing to me. I also tend to favor group healing over single target healing, you have a bit of the Yuna/X-2 White Mage issue where your lack of an effective group heal I can use in an emergency just made you less appealing in a life or death battle.
Sephiroth
06-27-2017, 07:54 PM
Yeah, Healing Ointment is a great move. Fynn's only really important thing for me is that he has Raise. His Limits are good but the healing alone is not convincing enough for me. If he had no Raise and/or those Limits I would not even use him.
Sephiroth
06-27-2017, 07:56 PM
Which brings me onto an idea. People have mentioned the idea of DLC. I've really enjoyed thinking up challenging bosses and such like, and I am wondering if other people might get the same pleasure. Would anyone be interested in a kind of design-a-boss thing?
Is this still an offer?
Psychotic
06-27-2017, 07:59 PM
I'll tell you what, if you want to design yourself as a boss I'm all ears! Obviously don't make him too overpowered and have him be defeatable of course ;)
Sephiroth
06-27-2017, 08:01 PM
I'll tell you what, if you want to design yourself as a boss I'm all ears! Obviously don't make him too overpowered and have him be defeatable of course ;)
This is gonna be good. How is the coding done in combination with the RPG maker? I mean, if I for example tell you about state machines (which in one way or the other is in the game already anyway) and all do you know what that is or is the RPG maker so good that you do not need to know that much about the coding itself? I assume it is written in C++?
Psychotic
06-27-2017, 08:10 PM
Yeah RPG Maker does the majority of the coding, so there's no need to be overly complex with it, but yeah a state machine is already in built. If turn = X then do attack Y, if HP is below 30% then boost stats and use attack Z, otherwise do attack A at 50% and attack B at 50% for example.
Sephiroth
06-27-2017, 09:32 PM
Yeah RPG Maker does the majority of the coding, so there's no need to be overly complex with it, but yeah a state machine is already in built. If turn = X then do attack Y, if HP is below 30% then boost stats and use attack Z, otherwise do attack A at 50% and attack B at 50% for example.
Well, basically it all can be done with it anyway. It might look complex but it still just consists of state machines and smaller state machines for the boss then. I assume you can add more variables? Also boolean values of true and false?
Psychotic
06-27-2017, 09:47 PM
Yes all of those things are possible, but from experience of designing these bosses, it's best to keep things relatively simple as the more complex and interdependent elements of a fight there are, the more prone to it being broken in some way it is.
I don't plan battles from a programming perspective anyway. I think of what I want to happen from a gameplay perspective first, so I'd probably ask any suggestions of battles are written in those terms.
Sephiroth
06-27-2017, 10:10 PM
Yes all of those things are possible, but from experience of designing these bosses, it's best to keep things relatively simple as the more complex and interdependent elements of a fight there are, the more prone to it being broken in some way it is.
I don't plan battles from a programming perspective anyway. I think of what I want to happen from a gameplay perspective first, so I'd probably ask any suggestions of battles are written in those terms.
The battle would not be all that more complicated than the final battle from a programming perspective. A four phase battle with a few extra variables that get relevant later and change his battle behaviour. But that's up to you, I can still reduce the half-assed pseudo code I wrote and that was there to explain you somewhat what the battle is like.
For the writing I also have dialogue included in, before and after the battle already.
That is the battle theme.
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Psychotic
06-27-2017, 10:13 PM
Probably best to explain as yeah C++ won't work on RPG Maker. Happy to also include dialogue, although I do reserve the right to edit and amend, particularly in the way of my own main characters.
For anyone else who wants to submit anything, first think of stats. HP, Attack, Mag, Def and Mag Def. No need for exact values, just on a 1-5 scale of how relatively high they will be. Then weaknesses, resistances, absorbed elements and status vulnerabilities.
Then for attacks, think of element, type (phys or mag), under what conditions does the boss do the move (does it always do it, does it wait until it's at 50% HP, does it need to have a status applied, does it use it as a counter etc) and strength on a 1-5 scale again.
I would of course remind everyone that having a boss with all 5 ratings is boring and lame. Bosses are fun when you can win!
Sephiroth
06-27-2017, 10:15 PM
C++ does not work - that is very strange as most normal games are made with C++ actually.
What about Java?
And about the editing - I doubt you will have the need to edit too much. It is supposed to be a self-satirical battle with a caricature of me + Sephiroth all in one.
Psychotic
06-27-2017, 10:26 PM
I'd probably suggest having a look at what RPG Maker MV is and does, as it may not be what you are quite imagining it to be. It's a tool for idiots. Which isn't meant to be disparaging because, well, I use it, and I am definitely an idiot.
Sephiroth
06-27-2017, 10:28 PM
I'd probably suggest having a look at what RPG Maker MV is and does, as it may not be what you are quite imagining it to be. It's a tool for idiots. Which isn't meant to be disparaging because, well, I use it, and I am definitely an idiot.
Mind if I show you the half-assed pseudo code that consist half of code, half of just the descriptive version of it? It is not even close to be finished but you would get an impression of what I would send to you in the end and you should also be aware that I would add a few comments in the final suggestion then.
Psychotic
06-27-2017, 10:29 PM
Sure, go for it. I'm off to bed now but will have a look in more detail tomorrow after work.
Del Murder
06-27-2017, 10:44 PM
Sephiroth's 'Correct Approach' attack: Charms a party member, then forces them to use a strong attack against the party member with the lowest defense stat.
Sephiroth
06-27-2017, 10:55 PM
Sephiroth's 'Correct Approach' attack: Charms a party member, then forces them to use a strong attack against the party member with the lowest defense stat.
As far as I am right now the moveset consists of:
Masamune Slash
Telekinetic Crush
Adamant Stubborn Viewpoint
Smugh Laugh
Villain Cliche
Nameless Spell That Has a Name Paradox
Reverse Game Design
Campfire
Sacred Judgment
Nonsensical Annoying Speech
Nullify Counter Argument
Read Mind: Canonical Counter - this technique, hah, if Psy can actually do what it should do it would be hilarious
Not revealed
Not revealed
Not revealed
Limit Charge
Del Murder
06-27-2017, 11:00 PM
Sephiroth should be included as a boss in The Three Witches DLC and also be vulnerable to the Toad spell.
Sephiroth
06-27-2017, 11:09 PM
Sephiroth should be included as a boss in The Three Witches DLC and also be vulnerable to the Toad spell.
Why that?
Del Murder
06-27-2017, 11:21 PM
I think it would be funny.
theundeadhero
06-27-2017, 11:22 PM
To help you out:
With previous version of RPGMaker you don't actually code anything.
Most of all the comes prepackaged into the kit. You just have a relatively simple interface and give it general guidelines as far as what they do.
"I want an attack called Masamune Slash that does physical damage twice at medium strength"
"I want an attack called Smug Laugh that lowers all characters physical attack power by x"
"At 10% health, I want him to auto use an ability called Sacred Judgement, which drops all characters HP to 1"
"This boss is weak to Holy status attacks"
You can also select the sound effects played and animations displayed during the attacks, and things of similar nature.
qwertysaur
06-27-2017, 11:25 PM
Here is an idea for a challenging boss, well actually 2 bosses.
One uses only physical moves and can also only be hurt by magical attacks.
The other uses only magical moves and likewise can only be hurt by physical attacks.
When one goes down the other goes into a berserk mode where it gets faster and or uses more potent attacks, so if you don't plan for that phase the boss will steamroll you.
I'll flesh it out a bit and send it to you later.
Sephiroth
06-27-2017, 11:34 PM
To help you out:
With previous version of RPGMaker you don't actually code anything.
Most of all the comes prepackaged into the kit. You just have a relatively simple interface and give it general guidelines as far as what they do.
"I want an attack called Masamune Slash that does physical damage twice at medium strength"
"I want an attack called Smug Laugh that lowers all characters physical attack power by x"
"At 10% health, I want him to auto use an ability called Sacred Judgement, which drops all characters HP to 1"
"This boss is weak to Holy status attacks"
You can also select the sound effects played and animations displayed during the attacks, and things of similar nature.
I wish I knew that before writing 11 pages of pseudo code.
Del Murder
06-27-2017, 11:44 PM
Here is an idea for a challenging boss, well actually 2 bosses.
One uses only physical moves and can also only be hurt by magical attacks.
The other uses only magical moves and likewise can only be hurt by physical attacks.
When one goes down the other goes into a berserk mode where it gets faster and or uses more potent attacks, so if you don't plan for that phase the boss will steamroll you.
I'll flesh it out a bit and send it to you later.
I just sent a similar idea to Psy. :up: My version involved the two bosses casting Raise on each other unless you could defeat them within a turn of each other.
Sephiroth
06-28-2017, 12:07 AM
When Psy opens his PM, 2 seconds after he already regrets offering me this.:D
Psychotic
06-28-2017, 03:50 PM
Just out of curiosity as I haven't heard much talk about it, how did you all find the "Desert wanderer" boss battle? How did you all deal with his 99,999 attacks?
Also, did any of you find a certain disappearing blue thing out there? (this is actually a Fallout 2 homage)
theundeadhero
06-28-2017, 03:58 PM
I felt it was just right. It had a challenge, but it wasn't unbeatable. I let him hit whoever he hit, then either ressed them, or put on the pain to finish him off, depending on how far into the battle I was.
Pretty much same. It was like, square in the middle when it comes to the difficulty of the dice optional fights.
Haven't found the thing you mentioned though
theundeadhero
06-28-2017, 04:13 PM
I did, but I thought it was a reference to something else. I've never actually played Fallout 2. Or watched the show I thought it referenced.
Slothy
06-28-2017, 04:15 PM
I found the disappearing blue thing almost immediately. Haven't had the time to beat any of the optional bosses though.
Sephiroth
06-28-2017, 04:38 PM
Just out of curiosity as I haven't heard much talk about it, how did you all find the "Desert wanderer" boss battle? How did you all deal with his 99,999 attacks?
Also, did any of you find a certain disappearing blue thing out there? (this is actually a Fallout 2 homage)
Thought it was a Dr. Who easter egg.
Psychotic
06-28-2017, 05:14 PM
It does reference that show of course, but I incorporated it in that manner as you have a very similar encounter in Fallout 2 in the desert - which was itself an easter egg that referenced said show.
For hidden boss, Evading Sonata + Draw Fire = magic. If you count the turns, of course.
Oh wait, that
Yeah, I did see it.
Quina
06-28-2017, 08:35 PM
Wait a minute, we are all characters in a game? That is really weird.
Scotty_ffgamer
06-29-2017, 05:08 AM
This game has been great fun so far, but I'm terrible at it apparently. Or I just have bad luck. I'm in the fight after the Gilgamesh3 battle, and I can't seem to make much progress. He likes to get multiple turns or have a multi hit move that often just targets one person and kills them. When I do get towards the end, he uses a dark move that hits the entire party and seems to be a one hit kill.
Del Murder, why must you hate me so?
Wolf Kanno
06-29-2017, 06:05 AM
This game has been great fun so far, but I'm terrible at it apparently. Or I just have bad luck. I'm in the fight after the Gilgamesh3 battle, and I can't seem to make much progress. He likes to get multiple turns or have a multi hit move that often just targets one person and kills them. When I do get towards the end, he uses a dark move that hits the entire party and seems to be a one hit kill.
Del Murder, why must you hate me so?
POISON!
Scotty_ffgamer
06-29-2017, 06:23 AM
This game has been great fun so far, but I'm terrible at it apparently. Or I just have bad luck. I'm in the fight after the Gilgamesh3 battle, and I can't seem to make much progress. He likes to get multiple turns or have a multi hit move that often just targets one person and kills them. When I do get towards the end, he uses a dark move that hits the entire party and seems to be a one hit kill.
Del Murder, why must you hate me so?
POISON!
I was using pumpkin to do so, but I kept getting my entire party silenced. Currently using psychotic, Nut, Formy, Bubba, and Freya. Freya and Bubba are working together to heal. Formy is poisoning and weakening attack at the moment. I've tried a few combinations but no luck so far.
Wolf Kanno
06-29-2017, 10:06 AM
This game has been great fun so far, but I'm terrible at it apparently. Or I just have bad luck. I'm in the fight after the Gilgamesh3 battle, and I can't seem to make much progress. He likes to get multiple turns or have a multi hit move that often just targets one person and kills them. When I do get towards the end, he uses a dark move that hits the entire party and seems to be a one hit kill.
Del Murder, why must you hate me so?
POISON!
I was using pumpkin to do so, but I kept getting my entire party silenced. Currently using psychotic, Nut, Formy, Bubba, and Freya. Freya and Bubba are working together to heal. Formy is poisoning and weakening attack at the moment. I've tried a few combinations but no luck so far.
I used Psychotic, Pumpkin, Nut, Freya , and Shauna for the fight. Make sure to buy the accessory that prevents silence and give it to Pumpkin before the fight. Give Psychotic and a few other party members the rings that half Dark damage.
Psychotic - Lifesyphon + Walrus Skin, Banishing Blade
Pumpkin - Poison, then Flare and her first limit
Nut - Build up limit with skills and use his final limit.
Freya - Lifesyphon and Ointment Heal, keep at least one of her dragoon skills.
Shauna - Protectga and Cura, use limits when you get them.
This boss works in phases but if you can get Psy to start drawing his attacks away from everyone else, it goes a lot easier. As usual with any fight dependent on a status ailment, the big deciding factor on your victory is how quickly you can get it on the boss. Poison will rock this boss but be careful about his phases. Once he gets down to about half health, he pulls off a super powerful buff move that give him a whole slew of bonuses including regen. Dispel it with Banishing Blade or Dispel and quickly get poison back on to him.Y ou seriously don't want the boss to get any health back from regen and poison does wonders against them.
In my fight, I lucked out and not only got poison on him but even after he killed most of my party, Freya was the survivor and I used her dragoon skills to avoid damage while poison took care of him.
Madame Adequate
06-29-2017, 06:35 PM
I've just started so I have little to say except I think I have a big crush on Shauna.
e; omg nevermind I met Pike and it's the cutest I've ever seen her outside of real life :squeeze:
Psychotic
06-29-2017, 06:39 PM
I've just started so I have little to say except I think I have a big crush on Shauna.
e; omg nevermind I met Pike and it's the cutest I've ever seen her outside of real life :squeeze:Ladies and gentlemen, I present to you the villain of The Fluffy Puff Chronicles.
krissy
06-29-2017, 06:39 PM
cant wait for all the fan fiction
I've just started so I have little to say except I think I have a big crush on Shauna.
e; omg nevermind I met Pike and it's the cutest I've ever seen her outside of real life :squeeze:
Wait til you see your own magnificent elf ass
Psychotic
06-29-2017, 06:58 PM
I had to make Patch 3 (download it here (https://www.dropbox.com/s/4jjmthxi6g34lwo/Patch%203.rar?dl=0)) because you are now unable to get to Baloki. Some might say that is no bad thing...
Madame Adequate
06-29-2017, 08:17 PM
I had to make Patch 3 (download it here (https://www.dropbox.com/s/4jjmthxi6g34lwo/Patch%203.rar?dl=0)) because you are now unable to get to Baloki. Some might say that is no bad thing...
I'm choosing to read this as the patch now makes it impossible to get Baloki, rather than making it possible.
Also the Battle on the Big Bridge had me laughing aloud with mirth and merriment.
Madame Adequate
06-29-2017, 08:28 PM
Jesus Christ Rye's Noseguard I'm crying
Madame Adequate
06-29-2017, 08:56 PM
Oh my god the payoff for where Raist got the Shlup sexbot
Madame Adequate
06-29-2017, 09:25 PM
I'm really good looking but what the fuck
Psychotic
06-29-2017, 09:28 PM
I'm really good looking but what the fuckwhat?
Madame Adequate
06-29-2017, 09:35 PM
Trevor McDonald excuse you m8 I'm a Daley Thompson man as you well know
Psychotic
06-29-2017, 09:36 PM
Every good story has a little embellishment.
Madame Adequate
06-29-2017, 10:26 PM
Is it "Kyur-soo-na" or "Kyur-ess-oo-na"?
Sephiroth
06-29-2017, 10:49 PM
Is it "Kyur-soo-na" or "Kyur-ess-oo-na"?
If Psychotic respects the original at all there is no double o pronunciation at all.
Madame Adequate
06-29-2017, 11:57 PM
then... how is esuna pronounce? :confused:
Wolf Kanno
06-30-2017, 12:19 AM
then... how is esuna pronounce? :confused:
Technically Esna is the correct pronunciation. The word is a portmanteau from three other words put together (Eikyu, Sutētasu, and Naoshi" that roughly translates to "Eternal Status Cure" when put together. Esna comes from taking the first letter of each word, but because the Japanese alphabet doesn't have a character that represents S by itself, it's replaced with the kana for Tsu/su so when it got translated to english, the U stayed.
Personally, I don't think it matters and you should go ahead and pronounce it as you see fit.
Madame Adequate
06-30-2017, 01:09 AM
I honestly had no idea about any of that! xD
Also yeah I'm gonna keep saying "ess-oo-nah".
Also also what the hell kind of attack is Beautiful People because neither Protect nor Shell seem to do a damn thing to mitigate it and it can one-shot Fynn which is a problem
Psychotic
06-30-2017, 10:43 AM
I've decided it's pronounced "Soo-ree-zunn-ay". This is canon.
No joke, you should add a voice clip of you saying Curesuna every time I cast it just because I really want to hear it said out loud right now
(btw I never used Curesuna. Never found a use for it :p I usually just... waited out statuses? It just flinched remrdies at people)
Psychotic
06-30-2017, 11:30 AM
Interesting, as I use it exclusively as my heal ability myself.
I can see the utility, but doesn't it have fewer charges and less raw healing potential than Curaga?
Psychotic
06-30-2017, 11:34 AM
Yes and yes. It's a tradeoff. Again, I am glad to see different choices used by different people.
Madame Adequate
06-30-2017, 11:43 PM
Oh I definitely prefer Curesuna for most fights.
Also in response to a question on like Page 2 or something, I had Shauna as party leader and Psychotic in the party at all times, with the other three slots rotating, though Pumpkin, Fynn, Bubba, and Freya were probably in more than the others.
MJN SEIFER
07-03-2017, 02:15 PM
Someone, please do a "Let's Play!" I realise this is late, but I'll do a "Let's Play" if I can get the game to work.
Also, it's a shame I never got around to asking if I could be in the game, I was going to, but didn't. Besides that, I still want to play the game (and Let's Play it) so I hope it works on my computer.
Wolf Kanno
07-04-2017, 06:58 PM
I've been in the post game, slowly finding all of the optional bosses.
Found and defeated The Man
Found and defeated Cid
Found and defeated Iceglow/Steve (Can't believe I kept missing that damn train and the laugh still makes me shiver)
Found all three Snowmen for Shiny and recieved a Key.
I know I still have to deal with RSL and Friends and of course I have an idea what the item I obtained is for, but anything hints on anything else I may have missed?
Pretty sure that's all of them!
Psychotic
07-04-2017, 07:13 PM
Indeed.
Also "The laugh" is a genuine voice recording of the person themselves.
Wolf Kanno
07-04-2017, 07:19 PM
Indeed.
Also "The laugh" is a genuine voice recording of the person themselves.
I remember you mentioning that, and it only makes it worse. It reminds me of the laugh from homeschool/alternate living family kid Daria hang out with from MTV's Daria, and so that became the voice I heard when they spoke. ^^;
theundeadhero
07-04-2017, 11:13 PM
I sadly had the pleasure of knowing his real voice, which I think kinda made it worse :(
MJN SEIFER
07-05-2017, 01:03 PM
From the look of things, I have to buy a new computer... is this right, or is there another way? I got a new computer very recently, so there's no way I can get another one now.
Apparently, I have Intel(R) Celeron(R) CPU J1900 @ 1.99GHz and a Intel(R) HD Graphics video card.
Is there anything else I can do, because I'd love to play this, especially if a "Let's Play" is now on the cards.
Psychotic
07-05-2017, 01:50 PM
From the look of things, I have to buy a new computer... is this right, or is there another way? I got a new computer very recently, so there's no way I can get another one now.
Apparently, I have Intel(R) Celeron(R) CPU J1900 @ 1.99GHz and a Intel(R) HD Graphics video card.
Is there anything else I can do, because I'd love to play this, especially if a "Let's Play" is now on the cards.I wouldn't have thought so. Have a look here: https://www.systemrequirementslab.com/cyri/requirements/rpg-maker-mv/14336
Although if you're going to do a video capture then that might well take up some resources too. I can't use FRAPS with it without ruining the framerate for example.
MJN SEIFER
07-05-2017, 03:47 PM
From the look of things, I have to buy a new computer... is this right, or is there another way? I got a new computer very recently, so there's no way I can get another one now.
Apparently, I have Intel(R) Celeron(R) CPU J1900 @ 1.99GHz and a Intel(R) HD Graphics video card.
Is there anything else I can do, because I'd love to play this, especially if a "Let's Play" is now on the cards.I wouldn't have thought so. Have a look here: https://www.systemrequirementslab.com/cyri/requirements/rpg-maker-mv/14336
Although if you're going to do a video capture then that might well take up some resources too. I can't use FRAPS with it without ruining the framerate for example.
Every time I click Upgrade Suggested, it takes me to Amazon, meaning I have to buy something. Anyone know a way to update my computer for free (which is safe of course)?
Psychotic
07-05-2017, 05:16 PM
If your computer hardware isn't up to running it then I'm sorry to say there isn't much you can do without upgrading.
Madame Adequate
07-07-2017, 10:32 PM
I should be a bonus boss who is launching my own bid to take over EoFF solely to reinstate rep in academia, all the while ranting about how its removal was transparently a ploy by Psy to preserve his #1 rep position etc. etc..
Lone Wolf Leonhart
07-08-2017, 01:45 AM
I haven't been active for a while and I just discovered this gem. Thanks for making me a helmet, Psy!
I, too, am classy and affordable. So you all should equip it on somebody :monster:
I love the throwbacks and the music. Freya is my go-to main character, rotating everyone else based on their skills. Playing this had me thinking back to old EoFF projects, such as the wrestling game screenshots. The cemetery descriptions really hit me with appreciation for how far we've come.
For some reason, I was bracing myself for Fwab to essentially just be BoB with a groucho marx glasses disguise.
Loony BoB
07-08-2017, 02:50 PM
I intend on streaming a blind run of this tomorrow. Probably sometime after midday UK time.
Loony BoB
07-09-2017, 12:05 PM
https://www.twitch.tv/loony_bob Live streaming this sucker now!
Psychotic
07-09-2017, 02:12 PM
He's on Boss #6 and we're having a lovely time!
Psychotic
07-09-2017, 05:52 PM
You can all rewatch BoB's stream on his twitch channel if you wanted a LP. However, my favourite bit is him reading out the "switch skills before each battle" line and then NOT DOING IT until I came in at #5 and told him to xD
Shauna
07-09-2017, 09:15 PM
I'm sad I missed it! I clicked on the link about 4 hours too late.
I was sleeping instead of being a productive human.
theundeadhero
07-09-2017, 09:47 PM
Well, if you hadn't missed it you would have been an equally unproductive human :p
Psychotic
07-09-2017, 09:48 PM
Oh dear, looks like the amount of views this thread got broke my photobucket account.
Bubba
07-09-2017, 10:30 PM
I tuned in for bits of BoB's Twitch run and I'm mega-excited to play this. It was freakin' hilarious! I'll even let the dig about Manchester slide ;)
Loony BoB
07-10-2017, 04:43 AM
I shall be continuing the stream next weekend, folks. Really enjoying it, as are a bunch of people who don't know much about EoFF at all, which is a credit to Psy.
Loony BoB
07-16-2017, 12:09 PM
Bump! Starting the stream now! Hopefully I can finish this.
https://www.twitch.tv/loony_bob
Loony BoB
07-22-2017, 12:51 PM
Maybe I'll finish today?
https://www.twitch.tv/loony_bob
Jiro's dialogue could have literally been lifted from staff forum discussions.Maybe it was. ;)
You could at least punctuate it properly, then. If you've got solid reference material, make it work for you.
Levian
07-28-2017, 10:10 PM
Just downloaded this and currently beaten Raistlin, and man, I'm having so much fun already. Quite the nostalgic feeling, for sure. I'm also amazed by your memory/file cabinet on all these members, so many references. Looking forward to the next few hours, although I've realized I'm quity shitty at tactics in RPG's!
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