View Full Version : Superhero Oversaturation

09-08-2017, 07:41 PM
There are a trout ton of superhero movies out and a ton more coming out.

This year we've had:

Wonder Woman
Spiderman: Homecoming
Guardians of the Galaxy 2

We still have left to go:

Thor: Ragnarok
Justice League
Black Panther

Next year we have:

Infinity War
New Mutants
Deadpool 2
Ant-Man and Wasp
XMEN: Dark Pheonix

That's a lot of smurfing superheros movies. Do you feel it's a bit too much now?

Del Murder
09-08-2017, 08:01 PM
Didn't we have this thread earlier this year? I think it was Bubba who was griping about it before. Is this some kind of CK conspiracy??

Anyway, there's no question about having significantly more superhero movies than in any other period, but it doesn't mean they are bad. Civil War was fantastic. I really liked Spider-man Homecoming and Wonder Woman and I hear the last Wolverine movie was pretty good too. Black Panther is also somewhat progressive for featuring a black protagonist with a black director, and I'm looking forward to it.

What is a little annoying is that Marvel has settled on a formula for their movies which, other than Civil War, doesn't really move things along. There also hasn't really been a compelling villain in any of them other than Loki, although Vulture was probably the second best villain they've had and he was pretty recent, so things may be looking up.

I still love these movies and just avoid the terrible ones.

09-08-2017, 08:03 PM
It is for me, especially when the genre has never been something that was mindblowing to me to begin with. It also confuses me when people get really hyped for stuff like Ant Man or when the original Guardians of the Galaxy came out. Like, what? Who are these people? Am I meant to have heard of them, or...?

Del Murder
09-08-2017, 08:10 PM
Guardians is a little different. It is based on a comic, but one most people never heard of. I think that one was more to fill a sci-fi void than a superhero one and it succeeded there.

Ant-man and Dr. Strange are a little more head-scratching. I rented Ant-man and Paul Rudd was pretty funny in it, but other than that it was pretty forgettable. Entertaining, but forgettable. I'll probably rent Dr. Strange too at some point. These more obscure heroes are still worth a $4 rental and two hours of my time, but not theater money.

09-08-2017, 08:15 PM
I haven't even seen Ant-man yet. I did watch dr. strange recently and while it was visually beautiful, it was pretty plot wise forgettable.

I like these movies. I just feel that is all we have now FOR movies. Decent movies that is. They are doing well box office wise.

09-08-2017, 08:34 PM
Ant-Man is a heist movie. Like Ocean's Eleven, and enjoyable in the same mindset. Yes, it happens to take place in the Marvel universe, but that's really secondary to the majority of the movie's plot and action.

If you think of them all as "superhero movies", yeah, there's a lot of them. But there's a lot of variety to them within that classification.

09-08-2017, 09:16 PM
There are a lot of super hero movies, but there are a lot of good or enjoyable movies outside of that too. I just saw Baby Driver this week and thought it was pretty enjoyable. I go to the movies once a week though almost, so that might help it not seem as saturated by super hero movies.

I find the super hero movies enjoyable though. If you are getting tired of them, I can see it getting annoying since they get a lot of advertising and come out pretty frequently. It's also all I hear my coworkers talk about when they want to go to the movies.

Edit: I also agree with Skyblade that the marvel movies at least have decent variety, which keeps them pretty interesting.

09-08-2017, 09:23 PM
Yeah, I go to the cinema a lot too, which probably helps the feeling that there are a lot of movies that aren't superhero flicks out.

I mean did you see Atomic Blonde?!

09-08-2017, 09:25 PM
No I didn't get a chance to. I wanted to though. Good?

I was just having this convo with some friends of mine so I thought i'd bring it up here. OH! There's a good video I watched recently about the Bathos humor in a lot of Marvel films


09-08-2017, 09:49 PM
There's no such thing as too much superheroes. :colbert:

09-09-2017, 12:02 AM
there is and it reached apex like three years ago

Colonel Angus
09-09-2017, 12:47 AM
Um, nerd, Black Panther comes out NEXT YEAR, in February. #CheckYourPrivilege

09-09-2017, 12:48 AM
Thought it was this year :O

Edit: Oh it was supposed to be November but they pushed it to Feb

Depression Moon
09-09-2017, 01:05 AM
We have a lot of shows now too don't forget.

The Flash
Legends of Tomorrow
Jessica Jones
Luke Cage
Iron Fist
The Defenders
Agents of Shield
Black Lightning
The Inhumans
Teen Titans
Cloak & Dagger
The Runaways

It's not oversaturation to me. As long as it stays good then it's fine, but I think TV might end up going on the bad note. Inhumans looks terrible and to me Gifted looks bad too, and Cloak & Dagger looks okay.

09-09-2017, 01:10 AM
look at this hilarious picture i made rep me


09-09-2017, 01:12 AM

09-09-2017, 01:13 AM
Baby Driver .

Is this the sequel to The Boss Baby?

09-09-2017, 01:18 AM
Oh no, who can save us from all these Superhero movies!?


For real though the only superhero thing I really care about is My Hero Academia and that's mainly because one of the heroes calls herself 'Froppy' and her superpower is she has a long frog-like tongue that can do stuff.

09-09-2017, 03:08 AM
Baby Driver .

Is this the sequel to The Boss Baby?

And a prequel to Drive.

Lone Wolf Leonhart
09-09-2017, 03:46 AM
I stopped trying to keep up. Especially factoring in all the television shows, Marvel has at least 5 shows on Netflix right now.

If I happen to see the movies somewhere I typically enjoy them, but I don't really go out of my way to see them anymore. There's just too many.

The only superhero film I'm looking forward to right now is Captain Marvel. I'll probably watch Avengers in between for the huge team ups.

09-09-2017, 04:27 AM
Currently caught up with the entire MCU. Im all for it. I just worry Marvel is pushing too many new tv shows at once, seems like self sabotage.

I havent watched any of the DCCU? They can take their greyed out Superman and shove it. God I hate forced "gritty" movies with their freaking grey and brown filters.

09-09-2017, 08:55 AM
We'll keep getting them while they're still making tons of money. People might well get sick of them eventually but that moment doesn't look like it's coming yet.

09-09-2017, 12:03 PM
Not really, I always see this question as something similar to someone asking things like "are there too many action blockbuster-type movies?" or "are there too many romantic movies?" :p

They're entertaining enough, people still go to see them, and barring some exceptions and sequels, they're different enough. I mean, Logan and Guardians of the Galaxy probably have more differences than similarities, but they're dumped together anyway so people can go "too many superhero movies" :shrug:

Chibi Youkai
09-11-2017, 08:56 PM
There's probably too many out there, but until something new and shiny comes along to catch the attention of everyone, there will continue to be a stream of them. It's like any other phase, whether it be romance, comedy, etc.

Depression Moon
09-12-2017, 02:12 AM
Are there too many superhero comics?

Night Fury
09-12-2017, 04:32 AM
I enjoyed GotG2. But that's more because the characters don't feel like 'Superheroes'. Logan was also really great.

I really enjoyed Agent Carter too. The rest I'm just not too bothered by honestly. It's not oversaturated, it's a trend, there are still lots of other movies out too to enjoy.

09-12-2017, 03:49 PM
I honestly never even caught on with this fad so can I really say I've had enough of it?

Lone Wolf Leonhart
09-12-2017, 09:43 PM
If I happen to see the movies somewhere I typically enjoy them, but I don't really go out of my way to see them anymore. There's just too many.


by too many I mean too many for me to keep up with. I don't think they have to slow down making them, especially because there is a crowd that will go and seem them all. I'm just not in that group, even though I can't really say I saw a superhero movie I disliked.

The Captain
09-13-2017, 06:31 AM
This actually falls into a bigger problem with movies and entertainment now, the dreaded IP issue.

Far too many movies have become these big IP (Intellectual Property) tentpole, meaning a brand or a franchise that is too big to fail and thus adverse to taking the kind of artistic risks that make something truly memorable for the fear it could flop and cost the studio literally hundreds of millions.

As such, almost all of these movies follow a tried and true formula that combines maximum special effects with minimal risk to the over-arching storyline. Most in fact exist just to set up the next adventure.

The truly original and innovative movies now stand out even more because they are few and far between. And with the amount of money that is thrown around, original ideas are being pushed to the sidelines because they don't have a guaranteed built in box office draw.

Give me a Logan or first 90 minutes of Wonder Woman any day. Something that takes risks and dares to try something new with characters that we might already know and love. Or heaven forbid, come up with an original story and characters and take us on new adventures.

I still believe that Mad Max Fury Road was the best superhero movie I've seen in my lifetime. That's an IP that went completely in a new direction and the results were glorious.

It is an ongoing problem.

Take care all.

Chibi Youkai
09-15-2017, 04:40 PM
The problem with those standalone IP's is that they don't get enough love, and it makes it harder to make more of them. Look at Jupiter Rising, or anything else in that vein. It was a completely original idea, but no one went and saw it. It's a death spiral that we can't seem to escape at the moment. Maybe in a few years, people will start to trend back to self-contained stories, but it seems for now we're stuck with universes, many that shouldn't be. At least the superhero ones were designed to be inter-operable from the beginning. There are some really strange ones out there now, like the monster one that was Universal was supposed to be putting together.

09-15-2017, 04:57 PM
Hey I saw Jupiter Rising in theaters! It was gorgeous but the plot was very meh. A lot of these new IPs keep doing that. Looks amazing, trash plot.

09-15-2017, 05:08 PM
There are some really strange ones out there now, like the monster one that was Universal was supposed to be putting together.

I hope this idea dies a death because The Mummy was an atrocity.

I Took the Red Pill
09-15-2017, 05:28 PM
Yes, I've felt like this for years. Around the time Iron Man 3 came out iirc. I pretty much ignore them at this point, like if I see a preview or poster for a superhero movie my brain kind of just shuts off and doesn't even attempt to process it.

But I have friends who are still not tired of them so it's good they're enjoying it. It's not like I think these movies are taking up slots that superior movies could fill so I'm pretty indifferent by now; if their overall presence bring happiness to large amounts of people then keep it going. I think the last superhero movie I saw was the original Guardians of the Galaxy, which was good.

09-15-2017, 07:00 PM
I just can't bring myself to watch any of the new Universal monster movies. I'll probably always prefer the old monster universe.

09-15-2017, 07:19 PM
I guess I just love Brenden Fraser's movie and that's set in my head as the mummy canon that I just had no desire to reboot that.

Chibi Youkai
09-15-2017, 08:34 PM
I guess I just love Brenden Fraser's movie and that's set in my head as the mummy canon that I just had no desire to reboot that.

Agreed. At least on the first two. The third one was pretty bad, though. Again with unnecessary the universe building on that one.