The Best of the Hated

[maybee]

Got some inspiration from Wolf's Final Fantasy XV VS Final Fantasy XIII thread.


What do you consider to be the best and your fav out of the Final Fantasies that seem to get the most hate?

[Fynn]

I like both II and VIII and think the hate they get is very undeserved

[Shiva95]

I voted for FFXV, it's one of my favorite game and it helped me dealing with the loss of a friend. Yes, I would have liked more backstory for Aranea and more screentime for Luna, but it doesn't stop me from liking the game. And I think the story is complete. I feel like there're many answers in the subtexts and people don't like that. It's fine, but personally, I like that, I study in a field that requires that ability so :P

[Lord Golbez]

FF8 is one of my favorites. The others all seem like they deserve at least part of the hate they get, if not all of it. I've never finished any of the others, because they don't interest me much.

[Wolf Kanno]

I have a real soft spot for both FFII and VIII and have really grown to appreciate both over time. Helped that I never had problems with the games when I initially played them. They certainly have their faults but it comes down to whether you feel these faults are charming or detrimental to the whole experience.

While the fanbase at large has issues with X-2, I'm probably one of the few who has issues with the battle system on this forum, the Grid mechanics are tedious in terms of maximizing the bonuses they offer and slow down combat, the job classes don't feel properly balanced, the accessory/relic mechanic is more tedious than it should be and doesn't offer as many viable options as it promises much like VI's versions, and finally I feel the "fastest and bestest gameplay" in the series only applies if you choose to ignore all the previous mechanics I mentioned and stick to a simply Attack/heal strategy for every battle because using any skill or mechanic that actually requires a bit of a charge time slows the battle process down considerably. Overall, I find the combat too clunky and like the plot itself, it's trying too hard to have its cake and eat it too. Story wise, I think X-2 is one of the cringiest games in the franchise. It's difficult to make it through any cutscene or dialogue in this game without some deep introspective on why you're putting up with it.

We already know I don't like XIII and consider it the worst game in the franchise only slightly ahead of some trashy mobile titles and cheap sequels. Of anything, I don't feel like it get enough hate from the fanbase.

XV is still too early for me to tell. I kind of need to do another run through, especially with all the patches and new content added to see where it stands now. The best thing I can say about it initially was that it was the best it could be considering its development history. I imagine my feelings for it will sink it lower in time on my personal list, but that will likely be due to my distaste of action-rpg combat and open world/MMO design as opposed to anything actually unique to the game itself. I do feel this game has a stronger chance of being reconsidered as "one of the better ones" by the fanbase, largely because I feel this game did a better job of bringing in fresh blood to the fanbase than FFXI-XIV did.

[Lone Wolf Leonhart]

smh when I see VIII on all the hate lists.

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[maybee]

smh when I see VIII on all the hate lists.

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I know. I'm waiting for FFVIII to get the redemption that FFXII and FFIX got. Sigh. Maybe one day.


Unfortunately, the game still has quite a hatedom.

[Wolf Kanno]

If this poll shows anything, I feel it's getting there, though I doubt it will ever reach the same feats as the more popular entries with the franchise.

[Lord Golbez]

I mean, the muppet babies part was a bit much, and tbh I can kind of sympathisize with people who hate the rest of the cast besides squall (even if I like most of them), but Squall is a great, well-developed character and the game is excellent overall.

[maybee]

I mean, the muppet babies part was a bit much

Err, when was this part? I think I've must of missed that part ?


https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/001/411/562/eb4.gif


HOW DID YOU KNOW I CALLED SQUALL "KERMIT ?"

[Lord Golbez]

That's how I refer to the orphanage scene.

[maybee]

That's how I refer to the orphanage scene.

Oh lol.

[Psychotic]

What can I do for you?

[Wolf Kanno]

The Muppet Babies reference reminds me of how I always wanted to make an animated video of FFVIII to this song:


PChZ-12-EVY

I just imagine Selphie, Rinoa, and Zell singing this while an annoyed Squall has to put up with them on their journey across the wolrd, only to brighten up when they say the line about "the magic is in the cards" in which we get to watch Squall kick the crap out of everyone in Triple Triad before Quistis whoops his ass and takes all his cards.

[Lone Wolf Leonhart]

What can I do for you?

Ride ze Shoopuf?

[Mr. Carnelian]

Hate for X-2 is simply beyond my understanding. It's a camptacular classic with some solid gameplay, what's not to like?

[charliepanayi]

FFVIII is the best FF game, so that one.

[Fynn]

I think FFVIII still gets hated because of what it came after, really. So many people jumped on with VII that VIII was suddenly too different. IX got this for the longest time for similar reason, but then people started thinking “but hey, at least it’s not IX” and slowly mellowed out on it. XII got absolved because some of the people that hated it simply abandoned the series after it while others accepted that things are different now. There’s also kinda a reverse situation to that seen with VIII - “at least it’s not XIII”


As for X-2, I’m with Wolf. Also, I’m pretty sure it really shouldn’t be on this list, since I don’t think it’s been hated it a while. It’s okay from a gameplay standpoint but not to the degree it gets hyped. And yes the story is insanely dumb with very thick amounts of shameless fanservicez, so how I like it on a given day really depends on my tolerance of this kind of thing

[Lone Wolf Leonhart]

I also think the degree with which people think VIII is hated is massively overblown compared to the number of people who actually didn't like it.

It has a 90% approval on MetaCritic, between both fans and critics. It also has a 9 out of 10 on Steam, based on 4,800 reviews.

Perhaps it's that initial impressions weren't great and people have grown to love it over time.

[Fynn]

Sure but like, when you encounter people who dislike VIII, they usually really hate it, which can’t really be said for II, XII or X-2

[Lord Golbez]

I REALLY hate FFXII. I hate it much more intensely than FFXIII or FFXV, because, unlike those two games, I actually finished FFXII and felt like it was a complete waste.

I think FFII is the worst in the series, but pretty dispassionately.

[Fynn]

From my anecdotal point of view, you’re still a minority though ;) VIII’s haters are really devoted to their cause, trust me

[maybee]

VIII’s haters are really devoted to their cause, trust me


This.

VIII haters act like Zell burnt their house down and ate all their hot dogs.

[Wolf Kanno]

VIII’s haters are really devoted to their cause, trust me


This.

VIII haters act like Zell burnt their house down and ate all their hot dogs.

More like this, just replace cigarettes with FFVIII:

WL0r-YoCmuw

[Example]

This is a tough one. Purely from a gameplay standpoint 10-2 is the best, but it has arguably the dumbest story of the whole franchise, not to mention tries to a continue a story that definitely did not need to be continued. I don't hate FF8 (not anymore anyway) but I'm not really a fan of it either. It has certain qualities that I like but it's still my least favorite of the PS1 FFs.

[Lone Wolf Leonhart]

VIII haters act like Zell burnt their house down and ate all their hot dogs.


They had it coming.

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