Star Wars Episode IX: The Rise of Skywalker

[charliepanayi]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=adzYW5DZoWs

[Jinx]

Ugh, I teared up at seeing Carrie Fisher. I think the emotional of seeing someone I love on screen after they're gone, after losing someone recently was too much.

Doesn't look like the theory that the titles were forming a statement has turned out to be real.

But it does look like Rey is, in fact, a Skywalker. Boring. Her actually being nobody is way more interesting.

[Freya]

Interesting. I have no idea what the movie is going to be about

[charliepanayi]

But it does look like Rey is, in fact, a Skywalker. Boring. Her actually being nobody is way more interesting.


I don't think that's a given.

[Fox]

Honestly if Rey is a Skywalker (I doubt it), I think it would be a weird title to use.

I think to try and find meaning from the title we should think along lines we wouldn't expect at face value. Here's mine: we saw what looked like Death Star wreckage, so this is actually gonna be about resurrecting Anakin Skywalker somehow to raise a new generation of immortal machine people as incorruptible Jedi.

Or it would be if Luke hadn't burned his corpse, which I only remembered happened after I typed out that whole thing, so way to ruin everything as usual, Luke.

EDIT: Someone on Reddit posted the following theory: "We've had 'The Last Jedi,' so now 'Skywalker' will be the new name for a Force user." Now that seems extremely plausible... and I guess it would make Rey a Skywalker after all ^^

[Cell]

I'm struggling to get any level of excitement for the new Star Wars films. It's just disappointment after disappointment.

[Vincent, Thunder God]

But it does look like Rey is, in fact, a Skywalker. Boring. Her actually being nobody is way more interesting.


I don't think that's a given.

My theory is that sometime around Mysteries of the Sith Mara Jade had an affair with Kyle Katarn and became pregnant with Rey, but Katarn disowned the child. Eventually Luke had to adopt her, but years later before going into exile due to Ben's fall to the Dark Side (and the subsequent death of Mara Jade at the hands of the First Order), he brought Rey to Jakku, where some distant relatives of Uncle Owen and Aunt Beru had settled for several generations. Unfortunately they were killed in a random raider attack while Luke was in exile, leaving only Rey alive, but she lost all memory of them due to the trauma. Luke decided to keep all this secret while training Rey but will reveal all as a Force ghost in the next film.

So yeah, she's a Skywalker, but in name only.

[Wolf Kanno]

I'm not terribly excited as the new films haven't really grabbed me like the original, nor do they annoy me like the prequel films. I'll still check it out to see how everything ends, and I do enjoy most of the new cast. I feel my issue really stems from the fact the new films kind of feel a bit like a hollow redo of the original trilogy in some ways, but The Last Jedi did start to finally move in a more interesting direction by the end, so maybe this film might be the one to make the trilogy worthwhile if it can find itself an identity.

[Cell]

I'm not terribly excited as the new films haven't really grabbed me like the original, nor do they annoy me like the prequel films. I'll still check it out to see how everything ends, and I do enjoy most of the new cast. I feel my issue really stems from the fact the new films kind of feel a bit like a hollow redo of the original trilogy in some ways, but The Last Jedi did start to finally move in a more interesting direction by the end, so maybe this film might be the one to make the trilogy worthwhile if it can find itself an identity.

To give the prequels their one small bit of credit, Return of the Sith is honestly a decent film, can't redeem the first two but Palpatine does his absolute best to try.

[Jinx]

I'm not terribly excited as the new films haven't really grabbed me like the original, nor do they annoy me like the prequel films. I'll still check it out to see how everything ends, and I do enjoy most of the new cast. I feel my issue really stems from the fact the new films kind of feel a bit like a hollow redo of the original trilogy in some ways, but The Last Jedi did start to finally move in a more interesting direction by the end, so maybe this film might be the one to make the trilogy worthwhile if it can find itself an identity.

I enjoy them, but I think what doesn't work for me is that the story is being told over like...maybe a couple of weeks? It cheapens the stakes for me.

[Wolf Kanno]

To give the prequels their one small bit of credit, Return of the Sith is honestly a decent film, can't redeem the first two but Palpatine does his absolute best to try.

I don't necessarily hate the prequels, I honestly feel Attack of the Clones is the one true dud of the three and Phantom Menance and Revenge of the Sith just have some cringy scenes in it. My issue with the prequels is that they really had a lot of potential and the basic story of all three films are pretty solid but the overall execution of the films is kind of bad and over relies on the special effects. I feel that had the films been done like Empire and Return of the Jedi, where both films had more professional script writers go over George's scripts to punch them up a bit and the film had directors that were more story focused than George's love affair of visual effects, the films would have been better received.

I kind of have the opposite issue with the new films, because I feel the characters are good and the visual tone is just right, but the scripts feel like a redux and there is a real strong sense of "been there, done that" to all of the films so far. The films lack their own identity because they cater too much to the original trilogy.

[Lone Wolf Leonhart]

I honestly feel Attack of the Clones is the one true dud of the three

It's my favorite Star Wars movie lol

[Wolf Kanno]

I honestly feel Attack of the Clones is the one true dud of the three

It's my favorite Star Wars movie lol

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[Bubba]

I thought The Force Awakens was an excellent Star Wars film even though I didn't like emo Kylo Ren. I still maintain he should have kept his mask on for the entire film. It was a waste of an awesome mask, if you ask me. I love Adam Driver as he's a brilliant actor but I always maintain he was miscast as Kylo Ren.

I enjoyed his performance much more in The Last Jedi though. Good job as the rest of the film was pretty terrible. Not quite Episodes 1 & 2 terrible but still terrible. The "comedy" moments in the first half an hour had me cringing the entire time. Rose is a boring character and the entire sequence on Canto Bight was equally boring. Poe's mutiny was ridiculous and Luke Skywalker well... everyone knows they dropped the ball there.

I think they'll learn from their mistakes though and this will be much better. It's always difficult ending a trilogy but hopefully they can get it right.

[charliepanayi]

I honestly feel Attack of the Clones is the one true dud of the three

It's my favorite Star Wars movie lol

That take is hotter than the Sun itself

[Cell]

Attack of the Clones is far, far worse than The Phantom Menace. Every scene between Padme and Anakin is just...awful.

The biggest issue I have with TFA is that at no point do you feel Rey is under any serious threat, she just Mary Sues her way out of everything. Also, what a waste of Oscar Isaac.

[Lone Wolf Leonhart]

Y'all missed a golden opportunity to use the only gif that could have tombstoned me:

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Yet here I live to hate sand another day.

[charliepanayi]

The biggest issue I have with TFA is that at no point do you feel Rey is under any serious threat, she just Mary Sues her way out of everything.

She's just following in the footsteps of the likes of James Bond and Indiana Jones (or indeed, every film hero ever), not sure what's 'Mary Sue' about besting the bad guys.

[Aulayna]

As more of a casual fan I'm excited for IX. I've liked the new trilogy far more than the prequels.

[Cell]

The biggest issue I have with TFA is that at no point do you feel Rey is under any serious threat, she just Mary Sues her way out of everything.

She's just following in the footsteps of the likes of James Bond and Indiana Jones (or indeed, every film hero ever), not sure what's 'Mary Sue' about besting the bad guys.

Indiana Jones loses a few times at least. Plus, it's Harrison Ford, why would you want him to lose?

[Fox]

Attack of the Clones is far, far worse than The Phantom Menace. Every scene between Padme and Anakin is just...awful.


I don't want to come across as somebody who believes Attack of the Clones has any redeeming features whatsoever, because it really doesn't. But Phantom Menace is worse. I always think Attack of the Clones is the worst one until I actually go watch them all side by side again and it's a consistent surprise just how awful Phantom Menace is in every conceivable way. And don't forget - Anakin and Padme were awful, but Phantom Menace had a lot of Jar Jar.

[Spuuky]

I strongly disagree. The Phantom Menace is a bad movie, but at least it's got some redeeming features. AotC is one of the very worst movies. (RotS also isn't good).

There seems to be a strong revisionist movement going around lately of people trying to convince themselves that these movies were actually good, just misunderstood by curmudgeonly old people and critics. You can find an army of prequel apologists on Reddit. I just think that's ... not the case.

[Wolf Kanno]

Jar Jar and kid Anakin certainly sink Phantom Menace in popularity, but Liam Neeson and Darth Maul do help the poor film, not to mention the Pod Race scene is visually interesting even if the whole premise of it's inclusion is silly.

AotC on the other hand just has all of those cringy scenes between Anakin and Padme, and dare I say Natalie Portman had more on screen chemistry with Anakin's kid version than poor Hayden Christensen. Not to mention that awful scene where he breaks down in front of her and confesses murdering a whole tribe of sand people which would have been pretty powerful if it wasn't so over the top. Of anything, the acting in AotC pretty much kills that film and even Sir Christopher Lee, Natalie Portman, and Ewan McGregor can't save the film's awful script.

[Jinx]

Is it bad I actually like Attack of the Clones?

Phantom Menace is the real stinker for me.

[Psychotic]

I have a sentimental attachment to the prequels, because as a kid/teenager they were my Star Wars movies and I didn't really know any better than to watch my Phantom Menace VHS on repeat. With the benefit of hindsight I can see they are poor and AotC is definitely the worst. They do however have some great music, engaging action sequences and a few good performances from some talented actors.

The new trilogy is an improvement, although while they're solid movies they're not all time classics either. Parts of The Last Jedi were just as bad as anything in the prequels (flying space Jesus Leia, incessant "witty" banter, whatever the smurf that casino planet B-Plot was) though I enjoyed the movie overall. Oh, and I like Kylo Ren as a villain and you can suck it.

[Lone Wolf Leonhart]

Is it bad I actually like Attack of the Clones?

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[Jinx]

Is it bad I actually like Attack of the Clones?

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You bring up an excellent point: Ewan McGregor as Obi-Wan is *eggplant emoji* *water droplets emoji*

[Spuuky]

I don't mind The Last Jedi overall but Leia Poppins is truly probably the worst single scene in any Star Wars film that doesn't involve Anakin's Luststare at Padme

[Chibi Youkai]

Maybe The Rise of Skywalker is somehow tied to Kylo/Ben? I hope so, at least. Really don't want Rey to be related to any of them. It just cheapens her a character.

[Jinx]

Maybe The Rise of Skywalker is somehow tied to Kylo/Ben? I hope so, at least. Really don't want Rey to be related to any of them. It just cheapens her a character.

yeah, kylo ren rises my skywalker if you get me :smug:

[Freya]

Maybe The Rise of Skywalker is somehow tied to Kylo/Ben? I hope so, at least. Really don't want Rey to be related to any of them. It just cheapens her a character.

I have a feeling this is it. They like to throw us off on these trailers. I think it'll be the rise of Kylo as a Skywalker rather than as a Solo.

[Lone Wolf Leonhart]

Yeah, it's totally a red herring. Something similar happened with The Last Jedi, with people crafting theories about whether the title was meant for Kylo or Rey, even though it was simply a reference to Luke.

[Spuuky]

This one is also just a reference to Luke rising from the dead

[Galuf]

All i needed to hear from the trailer was that laugh and noo i want to see it. Palpatine is hilarious and awesome in like every movie he is in, even RotJ so its not just a prequel thing :p



Attack of the Clones is far, far worse than The Phantom Menace. Every scene between Padme and Anakin is just...awful.


I don't want to come across as somebody who believes Attack of the Clones has any redeeming features whatsoever, because it really doesn't. But Phantom Menace is worse. I always think Attack of the Clones is the worst one until I actually go watch them all side by side again and it's a consistent surprise just how awful Phantom Menace is in every conceivable way. And don't forget - Anakin and Padme were awful, but Phantom Menace had a lot of Jar Jar.

It probably doesnt save the whole movie but i thought the whole genosis part was cool with the clones attacking and the duel between dooku and yoda. I dont think this gets showed much in the films but i do like that even though the jedi are badass alone they have not much experience leading an army so the whole battle ended in a not so great victory with 2 of the big droid ships escaping, its a little bit uh humanizing i guess is the word.

[Psychotic]

I think the title could be about Anakin Skywalker. Kylo Ren stops idolising the Vader part of his grandfather because he comes to accept the Skywalker part was his true nature.

[Cell]

Luke and Anakin rise from the grave to put a stop to Kylo Ren.

[The Captain]

Whenever I think of George Lucas and the prequels, I always think of this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ykmZp5cgbkU

If only he had listened to himself.

I thought Last Jedi set up the franchise to go in some interesting directions but have a feeling JJ is going to circle us back in ways that will ultimately leave us where we started since Disney is in the Star Wars business for the long haul.

Adam Driver has been my favorite thing about the new films, so hopefully that continues.

Take care all.

[Jinx]

kylo ren goes to pound town with rey

rise indeed

[Del Murder]

I was very disappointed with The Last Jedi, the only Star Wars film I didn't like (though I never saw Solo). This one does look promising so far, but I'm not as excited about it as I've been for the other Star Wars movies.

I agree that Rise of Skywalker probably refers to some general concept and not that specific family. I think Abrams will fix a lot of things that were broken in Last Jedi, but I doubt he'll change Rey's lineage since we've all kind of gotten used to it by now and this movie is supposed to be the end of the focus on the Skywalker family.

[Freya]

I was very disappointed with The Last Jedi, the only Star Wars film I didn't like (though I never saw Solo). This one does look promising so far, but I'm not as excited about it as I've been for the other Star Wars movies.

Oh I recently saw Solo. It wasn't bad I just felt it went on a bit too long, runtime wise. I don't know what the general consensus on that film is though. Do people not like that one?

[charliepanayi]

Solo is OK, but I think the general consensus was 'OK but unnecessary' and the film bombed at the box office

[Chibi Youkai]

Part of Solo's problem was that it wasn't what people wanted. Also, the little bit at the end was completely out of the blue if you weren't keeping up with the comics and Rebels, and seemingly connected to nothing.

[Del Murder]

I'll probably watch Solo when I see it free on a streaming app. Just didn't want to pay for it.

I also didn't pay to watch Last Jedi and that was the only redeeming factor for me. I'll probably pay to see Rise of Skywalker. In Abrams we trust.

[Freya]

I'll probably watch Solo when I see it free on a streaming app. Just didn't want to pay for it.

I also didn't pay to watch Last Jedi and that was the only redeeming factor for me. I'll probably pay to see Rise of Skywalker. In Abrams we trust.

I watched Solo on netflix. It might still be there if you have netflix.

[Darkhero]

Anyone else find it strange how much of the trailer alludes to episode 6? The sail barge, Lando flying the Falcon, Palpatine laughing.

[Spuuky]

Solo is terrible.

[Lone Wolf Leonhart]

Anyone else find it strange how much of the trailer alludes to episode 6? The sail barge, Lando flying the Falcon, Palpatine laughing.

Can't remember where I read it, but I think they said that since this is the last episode in the "Skywalker Saga", they made the conscious decision to have this be not only a finale but also a celebration of the last 8 episodes leading up to this. I'd expect to see a lot of callbacks and homages going forward.

[Chibi Youkai]

We'll, considering that the first Abrams production was full of homages and call backs, it's a pretty safe assumption that this one will be too.

[Lone Wolf Leonhart]

I guess.

They talked it up as if it would be a little more than the usual "you remember this, right?" fanfare.

[Cell]

The only thing worth taking out of Solo was Donald Glover's Lando. The rest of it is just bad.

[Mr. Carnelian]

You bring up an excellent point: Ewan McGregor as Obi-Wan is *eggplant emoji* *water droplets emoji*

yeah, kylo ren rises my skywalker if you get me :smug:


kylo ren goes to pound town with rey

rise indeed

Jinx, it's like you're reading my mind! 😂