So about FFXV

[Ayen]

Is it worth buying? Renting? Is it worth getting a new console to play? What did you think of it when the released version finally came out. I've been MIA for three years so I haven't gotten the chance to play it. Not that I can currently afford upgrading to a new system anyway, unless it's on PC. Is it on PC?

[Wolf Kanno]

My overall opinions as I played it were pretty much summed up in these two threads:

http://home.eyesonff.com/showthread.php/168956-Let-s-share-our-first-(spoiler-free!)-impressions!

http://home.eyesonff.com/showthread.php/168974-Spoiler-and-Final-Impressions-Thread

Course this was playing the original Day 1 version so I know a bunch of stuff got patched or changed as time went on. I'm not even sure if my general opinion now really counts.

With that said, while FFXV utilizes a lot of game design elements I don't care for (MMO style open world, fetch quests, action battle system) I genuinely enjoyed my time with it even if I felt it really dragged in places. It didn't restore my faith in the series like XII did, but it also didn't make me dread the future like XIII did. It's a middle of the road entry for me.

[Aulayna]

If you can pickup the Royal Edition cheap, it's worth it. It's still not the most complete Final Fantasy experience ever, but the Royal Edition makes it fairly solid offering compared to what it was at release.

And yes, it's on PC. Although you need a pretty beef rig to run it at high graphics settings.

[Ayen]

Oh, then my PC won't be up to the task. But I'll let my brother know it's on PC in case he'd be interested. He has a gaming laptop so it might work well on his. I can barely run Type-0 on my PC.

[Shiva95]

In my opinion, FFXV is really a great game, I played it a few times. I enjoyed it when it was first released, but of course, it's even better now with all the upgrades and DLCs.

[Psychotic]

Oh, then my PC won't be up to the task. But I'll let my brother know it's on PC in case he'd be interested. He has a gaming laptop so it might work well on his. I can barely run Type-0 on my PC.Then you might be interested in the Pocket Edition: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Final_Fantasy_XV:_Pocket_Edition

[theundeadhero]

It thought it had exactly zero good qualities. By about halfway through I forced myself to rush through the main story just to be able to finish it.

[Jinx]

It thought it had exactly zero good qualities. By about halfway through I forced myself to rush through the main story just to be able to finish it.

The music is pretty good.

[Psychotic]

It thought it had exactly zero good qualities. By about halfway through I forced myself to rush through the main story just to be able to finish it.

The music is pretty good.Also, Prompto. He's a tremendous little fella.

[Jinx]

It thought it had exactly zero good qualities. By about halfway through I forced myself to rush through the main story just to be able to finish it.

The music is pretty good.Also, Prompto. He's a tremendous little fella.

I actually haven't played it, but FFXIV did a crossover with FFXV, and some of the quest rewards where music scrolls of FFXV music (these allow you to play music from the game in your personal house). I actually enjoyed it and it encouraged me to branch out to listen to other songs from the game.

[Fox]

Set your expectations as low as you possibly can, and you can probably find it enjoyable.

FFXV is a massive disappointment by the series's standards, but it's not an objectively terrible game. Come at it with the right attitude and it's worth some money.

[Ayen]

My cousin who used to be a member here said it felt like a rushed project. I find that odd given how much time was devoted to developing the damn thing. Anyone else share that opinion?

[Fynn]

Oh, make no mistake. The actual game was developed in like, two years. Everything that we saw before as Versus went absolutely nowhere because Nomura was swamped with other projects. People rail on Tabata for ruining Nomura’s vision, but it’s really thanks to him that the game got made at all.

[Wolf Kanno]

My cousin who used to be a member here said it felt like a rushed project. I find that odd given how much time was devoted to developing the damn thing. Anyone else share that opinion?

It did feel rushed out a bit. Lot of things got patched in the first six months. I'd say the two biggest issues is that while it has a lot of good ideas, not many of them feel fleshed out really well like the car mechanic, the battle system, and some of the questlines. The other issue that hurts it is that the team took a risky design choice for the plot where the majority of the story is taken only from Noctis' point of view and thus a lot of interesting things in the background are missed because Noct is almost never there to witness it. Its not as obvious in the first two-thirds of the game, but becomes a serious issue in the last third of the game.

It works best if you approach it more as an open world title like Fallout or Elder Scroll than as a rails on FF title like FFX or XIII.

[Ayen]

Eh, but I was never that into Fallout or the Elder Scrolls. That's not a good sign...

[Psychotic]

As a fan of Fallout and the Elder Scrolls, eh, no, they're not really all that similar at all. It reminds me more of Dragon's Dogma or to a lesser extent Dragon Age Inquisition in that it it's sort of like an MMORPG but offline.

[Wolf Kanno]

I'm simply saying this is a game you get more enjoyment out of by actually exploring and doing side stuff as opposed to being some powerful central narrative. You get more fun out of the game just exploring and dicking around than by following the plot, which is why I compared it to Fallout and Elder Scrolls.

[Psychotic]

I understand what you're saying as a broad point but I still think it's an inaccurate comparison given the relative lack of depth, variety and nuance FFXV has in its side quests and locations compared to those titles. TES/FO gave as much weight to each of their sidequests as their main quests, while in FFXV the sidequests are usually one dimensional busywork/fetch quests, seemingly tacked on to artificially inflate the game's length but perhaps I am being a wee bit cynical here. Regardless, it's a clear difference in design philosophy.

As a result of these different focuses, my admittedly purely anecdotal evidence is most people appreciated the main story quest of XV more than its side content. If you Google "FFXV side quests" the first auto complete option is "FFXV side quests boring" which I think says it all! So to approach XV as you would TES/FO is something I'd advise against because the games are deliberately structured entirely differently with their pacing and gameplay.

[Ayen]

Well, I do like Dragon Age Inquisition even if I didn't get far in it. I can't remember where I left off in it.

I like to stick with the main story, though. That's what I did for FFXII. I get lost too easily in open world scenarios. I have no sense of direction it's my curse.

[Wolf Kanno]

I understand what you're saying as a broad point but I still think it's an inaccurate comparison given the relative lack of depth, variety and nuance FFXV has in its side quests and locations compared to those titles. TES/FO gave as much weight to each of their sidequests as their main quests, while in FFXV the sidequests are usually one dimensional busywork/fetch quests, seemingly tacked on to artificially inflate the game's length but perhaps I am being a wee bit cynical here. Regardless, it's a clear difference in design philosophy.

As a result of these different focuses, my admittedly purely anecdotal evidence is most people appreciated the main story quest of XV more than its side content. If you Google "FFXV side quests" the first auto complete option is "FFXV side quests boring" which I think says it all! So to approach XV as you would TES/FO is something I'd advise against because the games are deliberately structured entirely differently with their pacing and gameplay.

Fair enough, but I would point out that a lot of FFXV's quests weren't just hunts and fetch quests, and even some of those quests did land us in the awesome side dungeons that are easily the highlight of the extra content within the game. I never regretted looking for all of the Royal Arms as they were attached to some of the more memorable locations and sequences in the game both within the main story and side content. So its not like FFXV's side missions were all a wash like say XIII...

My choice of saying Fallout/Elder Scrolls really comes from being the closest equivalent I've actually played, and also because I don;t really feel those games quests are all winners. For every cool quest in Fallout 3, there were like three that were kind of ho-hum at best. Probably why I thought of them first.

[Fynn]

If you want a game with quests that are actually done well, The Witcher 3 would like a word :monster:

[Psychotic]

If you want a game with quests that are actually done well, The Witcher 3 would like a word :monster:I am playing this for the first time RIGHT NOW.

[fat_moogle]

Final Fantasy.
Fifteen should have been a blast.
Thirteen was better.

[Li Xin]

Well, I'm late to the party here but I actually pirated this game on the PC since it looked awful. Like, almost as bad as FF12 (Which I bought TWICE thinking the Zodiac Age might actually be half decent). I couldn't believe that Square Enix would try another open world disaster like FF12 (Even though FF12 isn't actually truly 'open world').

Anyways, an hour into the game I thought it was another failed attempt at making a 'single-player mmo' and was glad I didn't pay for that garbage. And then a few more hours into the game I realized that instead of blowing through the game as fast as you can it's better to just take your time and enjoy the gorgeous open world they designed and holy shit, I spent the next few days doing absolutely nothing except playing this game. Square Enix won me over again. I had doubted them, thinking they made the same mistake as in FF12, but they proved they know better than I do.

The second half of the game though did feel rushed, like they had ran out of resources or something. Whether that was time or money, I'm not sure but it must take a LOT of time/money to make a huge game like FF15 though. The story felt disjointed (like rather than watching a TV series episodes 1,2,3,4,5,6,etc it was more like watching a TV series episodes 1,3,5,7,9,etc) and the ending was disappointing because it felt rushed.

So yea, it wasn't perfect, but it was more than good enough for me to actually purchase the game as soon as I beat it. And now I got all the Final Fantasy games on steam again except 1 & 2 (which I don't think are available on steam?) and 11 and 14 because MMOs are too addicting.

tldr: It's a good game. If the only reason you haven't bought it yet was because you didn't like ff12 then I would definitely recommend buying it -- they aren't really alike at all. Or even pirating it first because surely you will like it enough to buy it afterwards.

[Mr Gashtacular]

finally upgraded from ps3 to ps4 and given this a shot. i wasn't too keen because the reaction to ff15 was somewhat tepid.

i actually enjoyed it a whole bunch. loved the boy band, they interacted really well. plot was whatever, but i didn't hate it by any means. chocobos were a lot of fun and my partner loved them.

got a bit bored of driving, and the day-night thing. i don't want to have to stop driving every 500ft to fight an iron giant when im trying to go across the map for a quest i happen to be playing at night

did tons of quests within the first two to four chapters because for some reason i assumed they would be temporary and i wouldnt be able to play them after. this left me pretty over-levelled for much of the game. the "hard" battles were easy, but boring, because i could just spam potions and re-stock.

its not a classic FF for me but i think it was a strong, enjoyable game to play for a couple weeks or so

[Big D]

FFXV had a rocky start, but it achieved greatness in my opinion. Every patch, update, episode and spin-off adds to the overall tapestry, and a surprisingly rich and deep lore.

The Kingsglaive movie isn't the best, but it adds some layers to the back-story. The Brotherhood short anime sets the scene nicely. The DLC episodes, except Episode Gladiolus, contribute remarkably. The final one, Episode Ardyn, is a real stand-out.

The base game on its own leaves a few things to be desired, but FFXV as a multi-faceted whole is a satisfying, moving entity.

[Jessweeee♪]

I found it to be a lot of fun, and I loved the small interactions between the characters as you explore. But playing it makes me sad because you can see how much potential it really had and didn't live up to. The stretch of the game where you acquire Leviathan, to me, is one of the highlights of the whole series. And that the rest of the game couldn't come anywhere close to keeping up with that is really tragic.

[Loony BoB]

I enjoyed FFXV. As a disclaimer, please note I'm a person who actually enjoys games and doesn't spend their life comparing each Final Fantasy to whatever golden age they might have in their head. If you sound like someone who does that, you may not like FFXV at all. :p

[Bubba]

I enjoyed FFXV. As a disclaimer, please note I'm a person who actually enjoys games and doesn't spend their life comparing each Final Fantasy to whatever golden age they might have in their head. If you sound like someone who does that, you may not like FFXV at all. :p

Same.

I also enjoyed all the other media attached to it. The Brotherhood anime was great for the backstory around the characters. I also quite enjoyed Kingslaive as a film. I still need to finish the main story in the game but thoroughly enjoyed the 40+ hours I've spent there. I got too easily distracted with sidequests!

[Example]

I'm currently on chapter 3 and so far I think it's decent. IMO it's an improvement over XII and XIII, but doesn't really compare to the Squaresoft era Final Fantasies. It's a slow-burner that focuses more on the journey rather than the destination, so rather than rush through the story as quick as possible you should take your time to explore and complete as many sidequests as possible. That being said it isn't worth buying a new system for, so you're interested you should get the PC version which comes with all the DLC anyway.

[Fynn]

Just beat the main game yesterday and I can confidently say that, as it is right now, it’s a damn great game that definitely deserves being picked up.

[maybee]

Bottom tier Final Fantasy for me.



Though I also said that about Final Fantasy VI, Final Fantasy IX, and Final Fantasy XII in the past. :lol:

[Raistlin]

Though I also said that about Final Fantasy VI, Final Fantasy IX, and Final Fantasy XII in the past. :lol:

:screwy:

[Fynn]

I mean, no wonder. They’re all in a similar league ;)

[maybee]

I mean, no wonder. They’re all in a similar league ;)

Are they ?


Judging by this rule I'm going to end up loving FFXIII in the future, what are your thoughts on that ??

[Fynn]

No, it’s quite simple really. XIII bad, XV good. :bigsmile: