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Jarvio
04-17-2020, 07:09 AM
So I have a theory regarding Leslie's missing wife. My theory is, the woman in question is Elena of the turks. This is because in the original game, Don Corneo's return when the party go to Wutai involve him kidnapping Elena (and Yuffie). So, I just think that this would tie in well with Leslie getting his revenge on Don Corneo.

Sure, we see Leslie's wife in a flashback scene, but it still could be Elena IMO, she could have changed her look when she joined the turks. Also explains her disappearance.

What do you think?

Shiva95
04-17-2020, 12:57 PM
It is an interesting theory! I really like Leslie and I'm excited to see more of him. We'll probably see him again with Don Corneo in Wutai.

Jarvio
04-17-2020, 09:59 PM
Elena Kyle. Like Catwoman

lol is that catwoman's name? I was unaware

Madame Adequate
04-17-2020, 11:30 PM
If you read The Kids Are Alright we already know who Leslie's wife actually is, and it's not her I'm afraid.

Jarvio
04-18-2020, 01:24 AM
If you read The Kids Are Alright we already know who Leslie's wife actually is, and it's not her I'm afraid.

Ahh right, I see. There's my theory down the toilet then lol

nirojan
04-20-2020, 08:05 AM
If you read The Kids Are Alright we already know who Leslie's wife actually is, and it's not her I'm afraid.

Ahh I knew I remembered him from somewhere. I bought that book from amazon thinking it was fanfic lol.

Mercen-X
05-07-2020, 03:44 AM
Roche is inspired by the red motorcyclist from G-Bike and his personality is an amalgam of the Advent Children.
The soldier who recognizes Cloud during the Shinra building infiltration is the same one who recognized him at Sector 8.
Zack is not in an alternate timeline. He exists in the physical representation of the Lifestream. The "Cloud" on his should is not real, just a manifestation of his heroic sacrifice. We'll later see Jessie in this same place.
Part 2 will address Rufus' connection to Avalanche.
Hints will drop that Bugenhagen designed Shinra's holotheater.
Just like (the corporation-slash-crime syndicate from Gungrave), we'll learn that every high-ranking member of Shinra's staff (i.e. Rufus, Heidegger, Scarlet, Palmer) have all been infused with Jenova. This is why Rufus (and Palmer in the OG) are so damned powerful as to take on a "1-C SOLDIER Operator" alone much less [Palmer] solo a larger group.

maybee
05-07-2020, 04:32 AM
Roche is inspired by the red motorcyclist from G-Bike and his personality is an amalgam of the Advent Children.




I thought he was a call back to the 80's and '90s and the American Crack epidemic.

Lord Golbez
05-07-2020, 06:53 AM
To be fair, Palmer is such a complete pushover in the original that there hardly needs to be an explanation for his "abilities." You don't need any special qualifications to get your ass handed to you by an elite group.

I'd just chalk up the fact that he even survives the encounter to some nigh indestructible Shinra tech woven into his suit and him doing damage at all also to Shinra tech. He uses a gun doesn't he?

Mr Gashtacular
05-07-2020, 04:55 PM
palmer is a comedic goofball fat man trope character who doesnt need a magic tech suit to survive his comedic goodball fat man pratfall trope antics

Lord Golbez
05-07-2020, 07:33 PM
Well, the "suit" would have to be a prototype for a project the company abandoned. Otherwise, it still doesn't make sense that 1st Class SOLDIERs in Midgar are just scrubs and not a boss battle all their own. Sayin'.


Those aren't first class SOLDIERs (oh unless you meant when you return to Midgar, but those guys completely outclass Palmer). They're 3rd class and even though they're regular enemies, they are probably harder than Palmer at least at the time you fight them. Palmer poses zero risk. At the time you fight 3rd class SOLDIERS, they can do severe damage quickly with their double attacks. 1st class SOLDIERS are badasses. Yes, they are regular enemies, but you only fight them near the end of the game and they are probably close to being on par with flashback Sephiroth.

Jarvio
05-07-2020, 08:46 PM
Well, I'll be thankful if R2 removes that battle entirely.

Maybe Cid could fight Palmer solo. That way it'd be more even-matched than a whole team, though Cid would still obviously kick his ass

maybee
05-08-2020, 02:14 AM
Well, I'll be thankful if R2 removes that battle entirely.

Maybe Cid could fight Palmer solo. That way it'd be more even-matched than a whole team, though Cid would still obviously kick his ass


All for this ! Barret can have his solo battle with Dyne and Cid can have his solo battle with Palmer. I still want them to keep the truck part though, it's just classic FF7.


Also hopefully later Tifa has a proper solo battle with Scarlet and they remove the slap fight.

Lord Golbez
05-08-2020, 04:40 AM
A proper Tifa/Scarlet fight could be cool. I feel like Scarlet should not realistically be match for Tifa on a physical level (which obviously is just one of the reasons the slap fight was stupid), but she should be armed to the teeth.

Mercen-X
05-08-2020, 05:29 AM
Cid has a slapfight with Palmer.

P: I need more butter for my tea!
C: I don't care! Get away from my gulldarn plane!

Lord Golbez
05-08-2020, 05:36 AM
Prediction: Shera is driving the truck.

maybee
05-09-2020, 02:08 AM
Prediction: Shera is driving the truck.

This better happen SE.

Wolf Kanno
05-17-2020, 07:43 AM
My only theory for this title is simply that we're not actually playing a real Remake of VII, we're playing a stealth sequel and collectively the Remake will be revealed to be VII-2 that was promised with the Compilation.

The game is going to go off rails with later episodes and time travel and parallel timelines will become more involving in later Episodes. The Arbiters of Fate will be the new antagonist, though Sephy will eventually usurp them. I honestly wouldn't be surprised if Aerith and Sephy in the Remake are actually possessed with the memories of their counterparts from the OG reaching out into the past to create a new timeline. Sephy to change his fate and win, and Aerith initially going back to simply stopping him but eventually convinced she might be able to change the timeline for the better overall.

Mercen-X
05-17-2020, 04:19 PM
In this vein, Angeal and Genesis will also be revealed alive. Genesis and Weiss will be good guys by the end. And Sephiroth will become a permanent playable party member during the crux of 7R pt 8.

Aulayna
05-17-2020, 10:43 PM
My only theory for this title is simply that we're not actually playing a real Remake of VII, we're playing a stealth sequel and collectively the Remake will be revealed to be VII-2 that was promised with the Compilation.

This seems very likely reading between the lines of the Ultimania interviews. ^^