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Mercen-X
06-05-2020, 05:06 AM
Name something you recently learned that completely rotated your view on a movie or game or show.

Here's one: A Bug's Life possibly presents Disney's first representation of a homosexual relationship and a happy transgendered individual. Manny the Mantis is in a relationship with Gypsy the Moth. However, she can fly. Only male gypsy moths can fly. What? Therefore Gypsy is actually a male moth styling himself as a female and Manny presumably knows since he's not stupid.

I'm reading too much into this. Disney would have never done something like on purpose in a kid's flick, it was most likely an oversight (Gypsy should have been a butterfly).

Fynn
06-05-2020, 07:54 AM
First of all, it’s a Pixar movie. Second of all - if they’re transgender, you miiiight rethink using “a male styling himself as a female” to describe them. Third - I also don’t think this was by design. It’s more likely that they chose those bugs because they looked nice, rather than trying to sneak in some LGBT themes, especially considering the time the movie was made and what kind of awareness there was on the topic back then (there wasn’t a lot).

But anyway, I wouldn’t say a queer reading of anything would really constitute learning something new about a film to me personally - it’s just looking at it from a different angle. That said, it is always surprising when the creator steps out to announce something about the work that wasn’t part of the original text. Like you can try to argue it was foreshadowed in extremely subtle ways, but Dumbledore being gay came completely out of left field.

Mercen-X
06-06-2020, 12:38 AM
I have to agree on that. Not that I care if Dumbledore is gay but why bother mentioning it out of context? May as well say that Snape wss gay too. Or Cedric Digory. Or (escaping the Harry Potter universe) what if the Wachowskis claimed that Morphius was gay? If it's not mentioned in the source material, it's not impactful.

Mr Gashtacular
06-06-2020, 07:25 AM
JK just did it because she's an awful melt trying to look relevant. she's also a TERF so she probably wouldnt jump on your analysis, so there's that.

maybee
06-06-2020, 07:58 AM
I think the dancing ballet fantasia ostriches are the male version of the bird too.