EoFF RPG Thunderdome 2020: Round 1 Match 15

[Wolf Kanno]

The 15th match is up, and the category is music!

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Bloodborne
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[Fynn]

FFX is not my favorite entry, now is its soundtrack one of the best imo, but it’s still a damn solid soundtrack. Though Uematsu’s contributions are some of his weakest in the series (though I still generally enjoy his work here than in VIII), this soundtrack was the first time Masashi Hamauzu composer stuff for the series and boy is he great. Junya Nakano’s here too, though I’m mostly neutral on him

[WarZidane]

I've become less appreciative of the FFX OST over the years, I still think it's okay but that's about it.

Love all the music in Bloodborne, so my vote goes there.

[remy5623]

FFX has a higher than usual number of "meh" tracks, for a Final Fantasy game. The good ones, however, are some of the best in the series, so it's still got my vote.

[Lord Golbez]

Yeah, I generally agree with the sentiment that FFX is no t among the best FFs in terms of OST, but it is still FF and that carries a standard of quality that is rarely matched.

[Del Murder]

FFX was the start of Uematsu's declining role in the FF series but he still wrote enough of the tracks for it to be memorable.

[Wolf Kanno]

Man you're all a disappointment letting the gorgeous soundtrack of Bloodborne lose out to one of the weaker FF OSTs out there. :cry:

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[Fynn]

FFX was the start of Uematsu's declining role in the FF series but he still wrote enough of the tracks for it to be memorable.

I resent the notion that only Uematsu is capable of writing memorable tracks :colbert: Personally, with X’s OST I’ve always felt that Uematsu was burnt out by the gargantuan effort that was the FFIX OST. He certainly isn’t on top of his game here, and I think the other two actually did a better job this time

[WarZidane]

Man you're all a disappointment letting the gorgeous soundtrack of Bloodborne lose out to one of the weaker FF OSTs out there. :cry:

I tried :p I figured FFX would win because well, it's EoFF, but I'm actually a little surprised I'm the only one who voted Bloodborne.

[Lord Golbez]

FFX was the start of Uematsu's declining role in the FF series but he still wrote enough of the tracks for it to be memorable.

I resent the notion that only Uematsu is capable of writing memorable tracks :colbert: Personally, with X’s OST I’ve always felt that Uematsu was burnt out by the gargantuan effort that was the FFIX OST. He certainly isn’t on top of his game here, and I think the other two actually did a better job this time

Inclined to agree, except tbh I don't remember which tracks are Uematsu's and only remember that was my impression at the time.

[Del Murder]

FFX was the start of Uematsu's declining role in the FF series but he still wrote enough of the tracks for it to be memorable.

I resent the notion that only Uematsu is capable of writing memorable tracks :colbert: Personally, with X’s OST I’ve always felt that Uematsu was burnt out by the gargantuan effort that was the FFIX OST. He certainly isn’t on top of his game here, and I think the other two actually did a better job this time
Well, he wrote Zanarkand, which is one of the most beautiful FF songs out there. And the battle theme. And Auron's theme. Aaaaand pretty much every song I remember from that game.

[Fynn]

That battle theme is an abomination

[Wolf Kanno]

FFX was the start of Uematsu's declining role in the FF series but he still wrote enough of the tracks for it to be memorable.

I resent the notion that only Uematsu is capable of writing memorable tracks :colbert: Personally, with X’s OST I’ve always felt that Uematsu was burnt out by the gargantuan effort that was the FFIX OST. He certainly isn’t on top of his game here, and I think the other two actually did a better job this time
Well, he wrote Zanarkand, which is one of the most beautiful FF songs out there. And the battle theme. And Auron's theme. Aaaaand pretty much every song I remember from that game.

I feel that alone should disqualify his accomplishments on the OST personally. FFX has one of the worst battle themes in the series.

[remy5623]

That battle theme is an abomination

I feel that alone should disqualify his accomplishments on the OST personally. FFX has one of the worst battle themes in the series.

Wow, I'm shocked. That battle theme is one of the best in the series, for me anyway. In a soundtrack that overall is a bit of a disappointment, it was always one of the standouts for me.

[Fynn]

It’s ok Hamauzu is here to save the day

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[Del Murder]

Hey, my kid loves that battle music when we do math battles. It's very upbeat! I actually agree it is among the worst in the series, but this is a series with fantastic battle music. It is certainly better than any battle theme from FFXII and later.

[Fynn]

Absolutely shocking. This level of blasphemy.


No but like in all seriousness, XII has no main battle theme but it has some amazing boss themes, not to mention the area themes really do a good job fitting in with battles. Blinded by Light alone is an absolute banger and just one of the most stellar battle themes in the series, and the soundtrack was never one of XIII’s flaws. And XV has a ton of great battle music all throughout. And that’s not even mentioning the pretty standout battle themes in XIV. I’m sorry, but every FF after X has had a better battle theme than it. The last decent regular battle theme Uematsu composes was Dont be Afraid from VIII, and my stance on VIII’s OST is legendary at this point :monster:

[Lord Golbez]

I've got to agree on the battle theme. FFX's is one of the worst (if not the worst) battle themes in the series,and while it's fine during play, there's no way I could bear to listen to it outside the context of the game.

On the other hand Zanarkand is one of the best tracks of the game, so Uematsu didn't do half bad on his contributions after all.

However, Fynn picked out possibly the best track in the whole game to put on here, so I do think the assumption that Uematsu's contributions were the best is probably off.

[Del Murder]

I guess I judge it a lot on how mememorable it is. FFXII did have some good boss music but I barely remember it. For XIII, I do remember the intro but it kid of fizzles out from there. Admittedly I didn't play XIV and just started XV.

For Uematsu, even his worst tracks are still memorable. My complaint about video game music theses days is that you barely remember it even if it suits the scene. It's just part of the background.

[remy5623]

My complaint about video game music theses days is that you barely remember it even if it suits the scene. It's just part of the background.

This, 100%. This is definitely a trend that has taken over game soundtracks in the last decade or two, and it's very upsetting.

[Lord Golbez]

I honestly can't remember any of the music from FFXII. I figured it was because it was mostly atmospheric, but it could also be because I only played it once and want to wipe it out of my memory....

I think voice acting largely destroyed emotional game music (though not entirely). It used to be that the music really had to deliver the impact for dramatic scenes, but now it's more in the background while voice acting does the heavylifting, so it tends not to be as memorable.

I say not entirely because I think there are some games that don't really do this. For example, the Persona games, despite having loads of voice acting, never really seem to push the music to the background and, hence, have some great emotional and memorable tracks.

[Fynn]

Eh, idk, it’s more that voice acting is more prominent now and music can be more complex. Just because you can’t hum the music right away doesn’t make it worse. FFX’s battle theme certainly sticks with you and I certainly wish it didn’t.

[Wolf Kanno]

I'm still just disappointed that you let Bloodborne die in the first round to FFX of all things. I'm personally offended by all of you.

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[Fynn]

This could potentially go differently if only Bloodborne was available on a platform that I own :stare:

[Wolf Kanno]

This could potentially go differently if only Bloodborne was available on a platform that I own :stare:

That has never stopped you before in the past with listening to game soundtracks. I know you've listened to a few before you actually played them.:p