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Mercen-X
11-11-2020, 05:43 AM
Gina Carano has been accused of inciting violence with her political views. People claim her meme posts deliberately belittle the supreme importance of this year's election. She supposedly "likes" "anti-BLM" tweets. Apparently, this all comes down to her being a "Trump person..?"

Like Chris Pratt, Gina is not really openly political. And again, for this, she gets crapped on. "Fire Gina", "violence against protesters", "racist, transphobic, alt right Trump lemming", "don't want a Trump supporter on my favorite show", "stick to porn", "Covid denier", "right wing conspiracy theorist", "spreading lies about the election because Trump didn't win."

Again, this is a "free" country and we should be allowed to have political opinions that differ from our neighbors without having those people attempt to shred our dignity and undermine our integrity.

On an unrelated but still related note, JRR Martin has been reamed out on Twitter for his turn as the host of the Hugo awards wherein he apparently mispronounced the names of some PoC authors and dared to mention the names of authors who may hold "regressive beliefs"... okay.

Del Murder
11-11-2020, 06:04 AM
I had to look this one up, and I don't really understand it. Maybe it will come up in Yes Yes No in the future.

My advice to you would be to stay off Twitter, dude. Nothing good comes from Twitter. Back in my day when we just had internet forums, the trolls were much easier to contain and much more amusing, really. Take yourself, for example, Mercen-X. We clearly don't see eye-to-eye politically or even philosophically but I kinda like your random 'celebrity getting trashed on Twitter' threads and the occasional off-the-wall post. That's what's wrong with our country today. The trolls don't have any finesse anymore. And we're all too divided. I long for the days when us trolls could flippantly poke fun at one another but at the end of the day come back together in pursuit of the common good: internet reputation points.

Spuuky
11-11-2020, 06:17 AM
I don't even know who she is, but she sure tweets a lot of politics for someone who is "not openly political."

Lord Golbez
11-11-2020, 08:17 AM
To Mercen-X "openly political" means "says things he doesn't like."

Freya
11-11-2020, 02:57 PM
This isn't even one on my radar, sorry. Who is she?

Slothy
11-11-2020, 03:50 PM
Again, this is a "free" country and we should be allowed to have political opinions that differ from our neighbors without having those people attempt to shred our dignity and undermine our integrity.

Not how free speech works bud. And if someone holds racist, homophobic, or other in any way bigoted beliefs they shred their own dignity and demonstrate their own lack of integrity. Say stupid things win stupid prizes.


To Mercen-X "openly political" means "says things he doesn't like."

This exactly. And he always has to follow it up with the worst takes. But someone who's fairly openly sexist like Mercen-x doesn't often have the best takes.

Psychotic
11-11-2020, 04:40 PM
JRR Martin has been reamed out on Twitter for his turn as the host of the Hugo awards wherein he apparently mispronounced the names of some PoC authors George RR Martin is a good bloke who certainly meant no harm, and as he himself said he struggles to pronounce his own character's names. However,
dared to mention the names of authors who may hold "regressive beliefs"I think you're being specious with this one.

He repeatedly invoked John W. Campbell. John W. Campbell who said that black people were unhappy at being freed because they were natural slaves. John W. Campbell who said that slavery was a good thing because they had a better standard of living than in Africa. John W. Campbell who said that there should be segregated schools because there were no black geniuses. And continued to say this trout throughout the 1960's and published essays about it - it wasn't a one-off slip of the tongue. If those aren't regressive beliefs, I don't know what would meet that criteria. Let's not try to compare this to someone who holds moderate conservative views.

Now, look, there's no question: GRRM does not hold these views, and just by referencing Campbell in a sci fi context, even repeatedly, it doesn't suddenly mean they are his views. At the same time, there's hundreds of science fiction writers who aren't racist morons who you can call upon and celebrate the work of. You just don't need to do it. I don't think Martin deserved as much harshness as he got. However, it was still definitely a misstep and tone deaf on his part.

Wolf Kanno
11-12-2020, 02:01 AM
Okay, you can slap my wrist later because I'm pretending to be a mod here. But we have three threads with the same content more or less that has really nothing to do with The Lounge as much as it has to do with Academia. So... :nudge:

Lord Golbez
11-12-2020, 05:58 AM
I think it's very generous to these threads to say they belong in Academia.

Fynn
11-12-2020, 06:20 AM
This is all just so exhausting

Mercen-X
11-24-2020, 07:51 AM
To Mercen-X "openly political" means "says things he doesn't like."

That's funny. Because that's exactly what that phrase means to the hardcore liberals who want Gina Carano fired from Mandalorian for liking Tweets by people with right-leaning views.


I think it's very generous to these threads to say they belong in Academia.

On this, we agree. I didn't bother posting any of these in Academia because I prefer not to sully that forum with topics that seem more appropriate to TMZ.

I deeply apologize to everyone for being a drain on your souls if you believe you have them. I haven't had a real discussion in Eyes On for some time and I was just testing the waters. A painful reminder as to why I usually just keep my opinion to myself. I appreciate your candor in these difficult times. God bless you.

Slothy
11-25-2020, 09:19 PM
To Mercen-X "openly political" means "says things he doesn't like."

That's funny. Because that's exactly what that phrase means to the hardcore liberals who want Gina Carano fired from Mandalorian for liking Tweets by people with right-leaning views.

Yeah holding people responsible for being bigoted and therefore advocating for harming people for things they have no control over is such a bad thing. :roll2

Del Murder
11-25-2020, 09:41 PM
'Right-leaning views' is like, 'government shouldn't subsidize health care,' or 'cut taxes for rich people'. Places where you can fall on a range of the ideological spectrum. Anti-BLM is not 'right-leaning', it is radical conservatism. BLM is a movement about stopping black people from being murdered in cold blood by the police and giving them the same rights and privileges that white people get in this country. There is no 'right-leaning' on this. Either you are OK with black people being murdered or you are not. If you are OK with it, you are not 'right-leaning', you are a racist.

Fynn
11-25-2020, 10:09 PM
Tea

Karifean
11-26-2020, 11:34 AM
Some things, and some people, indeed never change I see.

Christmas
03-12-2022, 07:54 AM
I really like her performance in the Mandalorian. Although I did not go in depth on the stuff she shared on social media, I would say it is a shame to see her leaving the franchise. :(

I first noticed her when I saw her in Red Alert 3 back in those days. :bigsmile: