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Ziola
02-15-2003, 02:47 AM
is it possible to get quick reply on this forum?????
it will be really helpfuil and useful:P

Yamaneko
02-15-2003, 02:58 AM
Wouldn't that require a hack?

Roogle
02-15-2003, 03:27 AM
Some might think a quick reply box would encourage spam. Why? Well, if they took out post counts because of it, I wouldn't think that anyone would even think about getting a quick reply box.

Burtsplurt
02-15-2003, 10:42 AM
I like the Quick Reply function. I have it on my board, and I don't think it increased spam (unless you mean that more posting is equivalent to more spam).

Hacks aren't bad if they're well designed, and I'm sure there's a really good/ well tested Quick Reply hack for vbb.

Loony BoB
02-15-2003, 11:10 AM
Quick Reply stuff scares me. I think that's just a personal thing. I have a severe phobia of them.

No, really.

Wyllius
02-15-2003, 12:45 PM
Originally posted by Loony BoB
Quick Reply stuff scares me. I think that's just a personal thing. I have a severe phobia of them.

No, really.

I command everyone to start linking pictures from http://www.quickreply.com post articles from there, banners, limericks, whatever you can find, and message BoB with such things so I can see his reaction.

Citizen Bleys
02-15-2003, 01:34 PM
It's a pretty much unnecesary hack, and I still remember the days when Acmlm hacked the living excrement out of the board until Sean wiped everything clean and installed a no-hack vBulletin. Speed increased 100% overnight.

EoFF is fast enough for me, 'cause I'm on cable--but we also have to look out for the 56kers out there, and for that reason, I'm reluctant to hack the board without a significant gain from it.

As for promoting spam, I don't think it really would. Without the quick reply box, a reply is still only one more mouse-click away. If people are determined to spam, they'll take that click.

The Man
02-15-2003, 04:23 PM
'cept Quick Reply doesn't require a hack; you can get away with merely a modification of the showthread template.

<blockquote><hr>&lt;!-- quick reply -->
&lt;table cellspacing=0 cellpadding=0 width=100%>&lt;tr>&lt;td width="10">&lt;img width="10" height="1" src="images/space.gif" alt="">&lt;/td>&lt;td>
&lt;form $enctype action="newreply.php" name="vbform" method="post" onSubmit="true">
&lt;input type="hidden" name="s" value="$session[sessionhash]">
&lt;input type="hidden" name="action" value="postreply">
&lt;input type="hidden" name="threadid" value="$threadid">

&lt;table cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" border="0" bgcolor="#000000" width="100%" align="center">&lt;tr>&lt;td>
&lt;table cellpadding="4" cellspacing="1" border="0" width="100%">

&lt;tr>
&lt;td colspan=2 bgcolor=#012033 id=cat>&lt;normalfont>&lt;b>Quick Reply&lt;/B>&lt;/normalfont>&lt;/td>
&lt;/tr>&lt;tr>
&lt;td width="18%" bgcolor="#012033" valign="top">&lt;normalfont>&lt;b>Message:&lt;/b>&lt;/normalfont>
&lt;smallfont>
&lt;/smallfont>
&lt;/td>
&lt;td width="82%" bgcolor="#012033">
&lt;textarea name="message" rows="10" cols="70" wrap="virtual" tabindex="2">$message&lt;/textarea>
&lt;/td>
&lt;/tr>

$logincode

&lt;tr>
&lt;td bgcolor="#012033" width="18%">&lt;normalfont>&lt;b>Subject:&lt;/b>&lt;/normalfont>&lt;smallfont> (Optional)&lt;/smallfont>&lt;/td>
&lt;td bgcolor="#012033" width="82%">&lt;normalfont>&lt;input type="text" class="bginput" name="title" value="$title" size="40" maxlength="85" tabindex="1">
&lt;SELECT name=iconid>
&lt;option selected value=0>No icon&lt;/option>
&lt;option value=1>Text&lt;/option>
&lt;option value=2>Arrow&lt;/option>
&lt;option value=3>Lightbulb&lt;/option>
&lt;option value=4>Exclamation&lt;/option>
&lt;option value=5>Question&lt;/option>
&lt;option value=6>Cool&lt;/option>
&lt;option value=7>Smile&lt;/option>
&lt;option value=8>Angry&lt;/option>
&lt;option value=9>Unhappy&lt;/option>
&lt;option value=10>Talking&lt;/option>
&lt;option value=11>Red face&lt;/option>
&lt;option value=12>Wink&lt;/option>
&lt;option value=13>Thumbs down&lt;/option>
&lt;option value=14>Thumbs up&lt;/option>
&lt;/SELECT>
&lt;input type="submit" class="bginput" value="Submit Reply" accesskey="s" tabindex="3">&lt;/normalfont>
&lt;input type="hidden" name="signature" value="yes" checked>&lt;/td>
&lt;/tr>
&lt;/table>
&lt;/td>&lt;/tr>&lt;/table>
&lt;/form>
&lt;/td>&lt;td width="10">&lt;img width="10" height="1" src="images/space.gif" alt="">&lt;/td>&lt;/tr>&lt;/table><hr></blockquote>The only downside of this implementation is that it'll show up regardless of whether you're logged in, but it doesn't require a hack, so I likes it.

Loony BoB
02-15-2003, 04:46 PM
*cries* It's scarey! MAKE IT GO AWAY!

The Man
02-15-2003, 04:57 PM
<table cellspacing=0 cellpadding=0 width=100%><tr><td width="10"><img width="10" height="1" src="images/space.gif" alt=""></td><td><form enctype="multipart/form-data" action="newreply.php" name="vbform" method="post" onSubmit="true"><input type="hidden" name="s" value=""><input type="hidden" name="action" value="postreply"><input type="hidden" name="threadid" value="29829"><table cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" border="0" bgcolor="#000000" width="100%" align="center"><tr><td><table cellpadding="4" cellspacing="1" border="0" width="100%"><tr><td colspan=2 bgcolor=#012033 id=cat><normalfont>Quick Reply</normalfont></td></tr><tr><td width="18%" bgcolor="#012033" valign="top"><normalfont>Message:</normalfont><smallfont></smallfont></td><td width="82%" bgcolor="#012033"><textarea name="message" rows="10" cols="70" wrap="virtual" tabindex="2">This is pretty much what it results in, BooB.</textarea></td></tr> <tr><td bgcolor="#012033" width="18%"><normalfont>Subject:</normalfont><smallfont> (Optional)</smallfont></td><td bgcolor="#012033" width="82%"><normalfont><input type="text" class="bginput" name="title" value="" size="40" maxlength="85" tabindex="1"><SELECT name=iconid><option selected value=0>No icon</option><option value=1>Text</option><option value=2>Arrow</option><option value=3>Lightbulb</option><option value=4>Exclamation</option><option value=5>Question</option><option value=6>Cool</option><option value=7>Smile</option> <option value=8>Angry</option><option value=9>Unhappy</option><option value=10>Talking</option><option value=11>Red face</option><option value=12>Wink</option><option value=13>Thumbs down</option><option value=14>Thumbs up</option></SELECT><input type="submit" class="bginput" value="Submit Reply" accesskey="s" tabindex="3"></normalfont> <input type="hidden" name="signature" value="yes" checked></td></tr></table></td></tr></table></form></td><td width="10"><img width="10" height="1" src="images/space.gif" alt=""></td></tr></table>

The Man
02-15-2003, 05:03 PM
This is pretty much what it results in, BooB.

Sorry for the double-post, but this post was made with the above quick reply box. Yesh.

Loony BoB
02-15-2003, 05:05 PM
sfsdfasdf

EDIT: HOLY CRAP THATS FREAKING ME OUT. >_<:;;;;; *runs away crying*

The Man
02-15-2003, 05:08 PM
I believe that was the intention. :hat:

This is only temporary, tho'. :p

Nait
02-15-2003, 06:27 PM
*tries out the Quickreply-box*


EDIT


Seems to work. =O


EDIT II:


It's fun.


Now we only need Quickedit-boxes. :D

Roogle
02-15-2003, 06:30 PM
I don't think it would encourage that much spam, either, but seeing as post counts are disabled because they cause spam, I just thought everyone would think that Quick Reply would make it easier for everyone to spam...

Dr Unne
02-15-2003, 07:52 PM
I find it ugly and distracting and pointless on every MB I've seen it on.

Loony BoB
02-15-2003, 07:55 PM
UGLY. Yes.

Jowy
02-15-2003, 08:13 PM
I actually find quick reply useful, but that's just because my cable goes really slow.

Spatvark
02-15-2003, 08:15 PM
If it were to be included, it'd have to bea lot smaller than that one there for aesthetic values. I happen to like the one on FFO and FFR...

Big Ogre Umaro
02-15-2003, 08:20 PM
This is pretty much what it results in, BooB.

EDIT: I hate Quick Reply. :aimwink:

Loony BoB
02-15-2003, 08:20 PM
I hate you, BOU.

Big Ogre Umaro
02-15-2003, 08:21 PM
:aimsad:

Loony BoB
02-15-2003, 08:22 PM
You edited your post but YOU LEFT THE INCORRECT SPELLING OF MY NAME. *irritating yahoo smilie cry thing*

Nait
02-15-2003, 09:06 PM
Originally posted by Dr Unne
I find it ugly and distracting and pointless on every MB I've seen it on.


This could actually make things better for the 56kers. Think about it: A couple of more lines HTML-code on the page-view-page, or to have to load the Reply-page thingie?

Yamaneko
02-15-2003, 10:12 PM
What would happen if we were to copy the quick reply code to our sig?:D

The Man
02-15-2003, 10:25 PM
Unfortunately, it'd only work for a single thread, I think. Maybe I could start posting that box in every reply I make, tho'. Hm.

And I agree wholeheartedly with Nait.

Shlup
02-15-2003, 10:35 PM
As a part-time 56ker, I must say that I still think it's annoying. Yup.

Burtsplurt
02-15-2003, 10:57 PM
I'm not sure if it's available for vbulletin, but the quick reply for wbb2 has an option in the user-cp to disable it if you wish.

It's not going to cause huge aesthetic problems either. It's only a small box at the bottom of the page - you don't even have to look at it unless you're going to use it!


*agrees with Nait*

Red Wizard
02-16-2003, 03:05 AM
I never really understood the need for a quick reply box. I mean, sure they can speed things up, but whenever I use one I am compelled to make a much shorter post for whatever reason...
That and the fact that you can't preview your post. (A godsend if you're using compicated tables... ugh)
However, I wouldn't be opposed to the addition of the boxes if I could turn them off.
(Perhaps a javascript pop-up?)

bennator
02-17-2003, 04:28 AM
I'm on 56k, and it is much faster to load one page and be able to post from it, then load up the thread, and the post page, and then post... it takes too long.

DarkCloud
02-17-2003, 07:41 AM
This is pretty much what it results in, BooB.

Loony BoB
02-17-2003, 12:43 PM
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:mad: grr

Citizen Bleys
02-17-2003, 12:47 PM
Okay, since it's not a hack, it doesn't have to be re-installed every board upgrade (templates usually aren't dumped in an upgrade), and it won't slow the board down, therefore I'm not opposed.

Here's how I see it:

PROS:
-Saves loading a page for 56k'ers
-Makes it easier to reply
-Doesn't require a hack
-It's easy enough to install that any admin could manage it.

CONS:
-BOU hates it
-Shlup hates it
-Unne thinks it's ugly
-It shows whether you're logged in or not
-If we were to install it, we'd be doing what Aaron wants :p

End result: I'm not really for it, but I'm not against it, either. I don't think it would hurt anything, although I don't think it would really help, either.

What say we take this to a vote in Staff? All these yesses and nos mixed into a single thread are making me wonder what my orders are..

Loony BoB
02-17-2003, 12:52 PM
Ask Sean to say no :D

*adds his name to the BOU/Shlup/Unne list*

EDIT: Staff vote sounds okay.

EDIT AGAIN: I really, really, really hate it.

Citizen Bleys
02-17-2003, 01:30 PM
Alright. I'll go make the thread now. Actually, I'm going to come off the fence and support it, even.

Shlup
02-17-2003, 11:40 PM
You put each staff member who was against it as a con, but you didn't put anyone who's for it as a pro. :p

Del Murder
02-18-2003, 05:40 AM
In my experience quick replies are rarely ever the best.

Shlup
02-18-2003, 06:31 AM
Too bad. It has been done! Taa daa!

Dr Unne
02-18-2003, 06:44 AM
I'm glad you made it optional. It's definitely ugly.

Shlup
02-18-2003, 06:51 AM
Giving it its own template was Prot's genius idea.

But I did spend several extra minutes trying to make it pretty. :(

Big Ogre Umaro
02-18-2003, 06:52 AM
*hugs Mandee* He doesn't MEAN to hurt your feelings. That's just <i>his way</i>.

Zell's Fists of Fury
02-18-2003, 08:08 AM
Lovley. *doesn't use it* :p

Nait
02-18-2003, 11:14 AM
The Council is pleased, Amanda. You may expect a... Bonus, soon.

Citizen Bleys
02-18-2003, 12:01 PM
Originally posted by ShlupQuack
Giving it its own template was Prot's genius idea.

But I did spend several extra minutes trying to make it pretty. :(

You did better than I would have, lass.

Loony BoB
02-18-2003, 12:34 PM
Maybe you guys should put a flower next to it, or something. Or a whole frame of flowers! =D

*still hates it anyway, but likes the compromise*

Endless
02-18-2003, 01:03 PM
Originally posted by Loony BoB
Maybe you guys should put a flower next to it, or something. Or a whole frame of flowers! =D


That's for when BOU adds it to Ed's technicolor nightmare ;)

Burtsplurt
02-18-2003, 05:50 PM
Ugly, but strangely beau... nope, it's ugly!

I like it though. Thanks a lot, staff people. :)

The Man
02-18-2003, 06:48 PM
Yarrr, I've got customers. Call me back, Ishmael. [/Captain McCallister]

Aaaaaaanyway, I love it. And the idea of using a separate template was, indeed, a stroke of genius - that way there's no way guests can see it and get all confused. ;)

Citizen Bleys
02-18-2003, 06:54 PM
I don't think anyone has ever called pr00t a genius before. Ever :p

The Man
02-18-2003, 07:00 PM
Originally posted by ShlupQuack
Giving it its own template was Prot's genius idea.Shlup said it before I did ;)

Nait
02-18-2003, 07:40 PM
And he didn't call Proto a genius, only the stroke he used was that of a genius. ;)

Loony BoB
02-18-2003, 07:42 PM
Nait, that realisation is a stroke of genius.

Ha. You non-genius.

The Man
02-18-2003, 07:43 PM
I'm using the quick reply now, in a stroke of genius.

We should start using "in a stroke of genius" everywhere on the forums, just randomly, for no reason. Seriously.

Red Wizard
02-18-2003, 07:47 PM
But what about a stroke of genus? You know how those biological classifications can get out of hand...

Oh, and back to the point, I'll still use the old reply page. (I likes the vB code buttons)

The Man
02-18-2003, 07:51 PM
I know all the vB codes by heart (and rarely use 'em, since I vastly prefer using actual HTML for most of the tags), so they're all useless to moi. Sometimes I'll still use the normal reply page, probably, in the event that I forget a smiley code or need to attach a file, but that's all. (I tried including the attachment code dealie on my server, and the file wound up not attaching, although more likely that's due to the simple fact that Yahoo's hosting blows than it's due to something... else. If one of the admins wants to test it out, lemme know and I'll find the attachment-inducing code).

edczxcvbnm
02-18-2003, 07:56 PM
DAMN IT! Now I have to decide between cool colors and saving time! DAMN IT! This is so useful but the other colors :( I will just have to decide.

Big Ogre Umaro
02-18-2003, 10:16 PM
Don't worry, ed.

EDIT: I have the Quick Reply on right now, But I find it hard to not click on the reply button anyway. I don't go to any other boards that use quick reply, I think.

Yamaneko
02-18-2003, 10:21 PM
Originally posted by Spaceman Spiff
Lovley. *doesn't use it* :p
" "

Big Ogre Umaro
02-18-2003, 10:24 PM
edczxcvbnm may now use his theme with the benefit of quick reply. :aimsun:

Citizen Bleys
02-18-2003, 10:42 PM
BOU, do you realize this means that *every* modification to the templates will now have to be done in quadruplicate? Including the twenty-three new templates that have to be added for that infernal arcade?

You really have it in for me, don't you? *cry*

Red Wizard
02-19-2003, 12:10 AM
Ack! 23 templates? C'mon now, you should know better than to implement that.

Citizen Bleys
02-19-2003, 12:34 AM
23 templates x 4 styles = 92 templates.

And I have my orders.

Red Wizard
02-19-2003, 12:41 AM
Well, at least delegate some of the work to the people who backed the idea up... that'll teach 'em. :P

Citizen Bleys
02-19-2003, 12:49 AM
Nah, I'm the tech guy. It's my job. I just want to whine about it some, 'cause I'm all frustrated from this afternoon's wrestling with FTP.