Eyece
04-26-2003, 03:44 AM
O.k. listen people...here is the true story. Sephiroth died in nibelheim...he was reicnarnated into a bird right, and then he pooped on midgar...The poop eventually got tracked onto the streets and hojo stepped in it...Then hojo went back to his lab and the poop got onto the floor, and jenova sucked up the poop and turned into sephiroth!
Jesus Christ you people read too deep into the game man.
Storm
04-26-2003, 05:15 AM
I have kept away from this section for a while, so I apologize on the late reply or if something has already been proven wrong.
Originally posted by JonJonB
I'm sorry, but none of that's good enough for me. When there's something so majorly important in a story, there is mention of it. At the very least there is a barrage of hints, subtle or otherwise. But there is NOTHING to suggest Jenova is the true power who is controlling the situation, it's always Sephiroth, Sephiroth, Sephiroth.
I don't seem to recall there is anything suggesting that Sephiroth used his strong will to control Jenova's headless body. However, I suppose you will once again refer to these quotes:
Originally posted by JonJonB
Hojo
"But being a genius that I am, I soon figured it out. You see it
was all Sephiroth's doing."
"Sephiroth is not just content to diffuse his will into the
Lifestream; he wants to maniplate the Clones himself."
You call this evidence? Explain to me how Hojo knows it was all Sephiroth. Oh right, Hojo is a self-proclaimed genious and therefore must be the only one to understand the truth. Like father like son, so daddy must known everything about Sephiroth. You say it's true because it's never disputed? I could say there is a headless polar bear in the middle of a desert in Africa, and it's highly possible nobody could ever prove what I said was wrong. It doesn't necessarily mean it is right though.
Originally posted by JonJonB
Cloud
"He's here. the real Sephiroth is just beyond here."
"It's both incredibly wicked and cruel..."
"But it's releasing a powerfully strong will from deep within
this planet's wound."
Cloud
"The combination of Jenova cells, Sephiroth's strong will, and my
own weaknesses are what created me."
So, what you're saying is that Cloud knows everything, correct? He said these things, Big Deal. There's no direct line from the game that explains WHY he knows this. Oh right...Sephiroth must have used his STRONG WILL to tell Cloud this. Wow, Sephiroth really is a manipulating machine....it's too bad nobody else from the game is aware of this strong will except for Cloud.
Also posted by JonJonB
I don't think we should rely on Cloud's possibly confused conclusions as gospel truth.
There, you said it. We shouldn't rely on Cloud's conclusions, hence, we cannot believe what Cloud said about Sephiroth's strong will and manipulation is true.
I haven't played the game in a while, but I would like to see a quote from a person other than Cloud mentioning the strong will, even though this is pointless because nobody should technically know of it.
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