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Rostum
04-27-2003, 04:16 AM
I just noticed Leeza closed my thread on "dry sex". And it made me think, maybe some people like to ask for opinions about such related topics, and maybe even help about things sexual related?

Just a suggestion though, but maybe there should be a sexual related forum, but ofcoarse it would have it's limits (no porn and such) and warnings... just a suggestion though... :)

Big D
04-27-2003, 05:13 AM
If people have genuine sexual concerns, then they should be able to discuss them in an open, honest and mature manner here. It's an important and difficult topic for many. Perhaps a sub-forum within 'Eyes on Each Other', with an appropriate content warning would be good?

People who just want to talk dirty would make this difficult to operate, but with the appropriate amount of maturity, self-restraint and moderator vigilance, it could work. I'm all for it.

Kawaii Ryűkishi
04-27-2003, 05:26 AM
Originally <a href="http://www.eyesonff.com/forums/showthread.php?postid=463889#post463889">posted</a> by Sean
I'm not saying this to anyone in particular, but when it comes down to it, you either accept the rules or you don't. And if you don't- get going. There should be no talking in detail about sexual stuff. EoFF isn't the place.

No matter how you look at it, we still have 11 year olds here and who knows how many coppa violators and lurkers that are even younger.

I'm not saying don't talk about it. Lord knows I was curious all through my life about sexual stuff. <b>But don't talk about it here</b>. End of story.<a href="http://www.angryflower.com"><img src="http://kayarco3.hypermart.net/btaf/btafyeehaw.gif" alt="YEE-HAW!" border="0"></a>

m4tt
04-27-2003, 05:35 AM
If Sean said it, you GOTTA obey it!

Rostum
04-27-2003, 05:46 AM
heh yeah i guess, but isnt there anyway to have say accounts that have their age over 15 or something allowed access?? and yeah, no dirty talk, just advice and stuff... meh ah well... it was just a suggestions...

Big D
04-27-2003, 06:08 AM
If you really want to talk about such matters, then perhaps you should PM someone you know and trust, and ask them if they'd be willing to listen. If they want to help, problem solved... I think. Not sure about the rules in that regard.

Even better, talk to someone in real life. The benefit of limited anonymity is gone, but it's still useful.

Still, I think 'Kishi's post says it all. There are just too many risks associated with allowing sexually themed discussions on an open, public MB.

Rostum
04-27-2003, 06:10 AM
Yeah, i guess you're right, well I do talk to ppl about it that i know... anyways just a suggestion

Big D
04-27-2003, 06:29 AM
Well, it looks like the general rule here is that you can discuss most things, as long as you're not being perverse, gratuitous or explicit. After all, there have been anatomically detailed discussions of sexually transmitted illnesses, which is permissible - it's a big issue, life-changing even. It's when people start talking about fetishes, orgies and the like that things deteriorate to a 'bannable' level.

Batman
04-27-2003, 06:50 PM
Since when do poeple come to Final Fantasy Forums to talk about sex?! Get a grip!

Loony BoB
04-27-2003, 07:03 PM
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/forumdisplay.php?s=&forumid=18

Go there, and satisfy your needs.

Mikztsu
04-27-2003, 08:27 PM
Well, we talk here about many other things than Final Fantasy. We don't go to music forums to talk about music, if needed. We do it at lounge AND there is a lounge because this is community.

My own opinion is, that it wouldn't be the end of the World if some not <i>too</i> detailed sex talk was allowed. As for Mojo Pin's thread, my own opinion is that if you say something about rubbing your bodies with clothes on ( the dry sex thing) isn't too bad. But then again, I have no clue how those kids take it. And I have pretty perverted mind anyways. Damn kids, go away.=D

My other point is, that there's kinda many contradictories in EoFF's rules sometimes. Some pretty obscene stuff and threads seems to be allowed ( like talk in that EoFF Bicycle thread), and then I make a joke thread about Rainecloud's arse which is not allowed.:O *bitter as hell* DAMMIT.>_< It wasn't bad at all.=\

Shlup
04-27-2003, 08:33 PM
If you want to talk about sex then go to a sex-related message board. www.scarleteen.com might be the place for you, but, no matter how much I wish Yuna and Tidus would just get down, sex and Final Fantasy don't mix. If people want to have "a place" to talk maturely about sex, then there are other message boards just for that. We have to draw a line somewhere.

eestlinc
04-27-2003, 08:35 PM
we should have an 18+ forum here.

Del Murder
04-27-2003, 08:51 PM
I think the Rainecloud's ass thing was much more graphic and disturbing than the Eyeson Bicycle thing. They were both in good fun, but when you start talking about specific parts of a member's body and calling them red and pimpled or whatever, um... gross. Sorry Mik. Personally, I like the no sex talk allowed rule.

m4tt
04-27-2003, 08:53 PM
Originally posted by Del Murder
I think the Rainecloud's ass thing was much more graphic and disturbing than the Eyeson Bicycle thing. They were both in good fun, but when you start talking about specific parts of a member's body and calling them red and pimpled or whatever, um... gross. Sorry Mik. Personally, I like the no sex talk allowed rule.

Exactly.

Mikztsu
04-27-2003, 09:26 PM
I also don't really care whether there's sex talk allowed or not, so don't take me wrong, I'm not demanding sex talk here or anything.:p

It was just my opinion about little contradictions and such. My opinion was that the discussion about Rainecloud's arse wasn't <i>that</i> disturbing compared to many other things, just good fun. But then again it's MIK's opinion. And I happen to be very disturbing and gross person at the times, so bare with me.=)

edczxcvbnm
04-27-2003, 09:34 PM
Originally posted by ShlupQuack
We have to draw a line somewhere.

Correction. You WANT to draw the line somewhere. You don't have to.

Anyways for an FF message board like you claim a lot of the stuff talked about in General Chat and stuff just don't mix. We all know FF and ummm...elections go together. YEAY!

*fights the power*

*doesn't really care*

Leeza
04-27-2003, 10:03 PM
My personal opinion is that it is way too easy to go and find someplace where you can talk about sex, whether it be maturely or crudely, and it's nice to be able to come someplace where you don't have to be subjected to it at every turn. And yes, ed, I guess maybe we do <i>want</i> to draw the line.

Shlup
04-27-2003, 10:07 PM
Originally posted by eestlinc
we should have an 18+ forum here. omg that wud rool

Mikztsu
04-27-2003, 10:10 PM
Lolz

Leeza
04-27-2003, 10:39 PM
*pictures all of the 11 and 12 year olds saying that they're 18 and flocking to the 18+ forum*

Del Murder
04-28-2003, 01:30 AM
*busted*

m4tt
04-28-2003, 03:36 AM
I bet most of our 11-12 year old users are more mature than most or all of our 18 year old users.

Shlup
04-28-2003, 03:55 AM
Who cares if they're more mature? They're still too young to have or know anything about sex.

Dr Unne
04-28-2003, 04:04 AM
I think the important thing to remember is we have a rule against it right now, and we should never ever change any rules. *...is serious* Also, ed disagrees with it, so it has to be a good rule. I rest my case.

edczxcvbnm
04-28-2003, 07:16 AM
Originally posted by Dr Unne
Also, ed disagrees with it, so it has to be a good rule. I rest my case.

Its so true!


Originally posted by ShlupQuack
Who cares if they're more mature? They're still too young to have or know anything about sex.

Maybe if they live in a cave or something. I think the person is sheltered if that is true. I learned all about sex ed and what not when I was 10...in SCHOOL.

I think people here are just naive or don't want to admit to something.

Shlup
04-28-2003, 08:04 AM
I think it's good for kids to not be too sheltered from learning about sex, but you know that if there was an 18+ forum that topics would go into things that a lot of us didn't learn until we were older. I sure as hell didn't know what dry sex was until high school.

Of couse, if a member were to make a seperate message board for the older EoFF members I couldn't object. :o

eestlinc
04-28-2003, 08:13 AM
i could certainly live without dry sex discussions, but I'm with ed.

Mikztsu
04-28-2003, 01:22 PM
I would like to make obscenity-adult EoFF ( affliciate =p) board, only if I could. I agree, that kids who wants to "see" sex and discussion about it, they can find it anywhere around the web unless the've seen it already. We watched porn movies in elementary school age.=) So if these 'kids' wouldn't want to see stuff like that, then don't click on thread that says 'sex' or something like that.

By this statement I didn't give any viewpoint at all however, and I also can live without sex discussion here. I like EoFF as how it is.
Just a question: Would thread " Your best sexual experience?" be allowed if it wouldn't go too much in the details and 'bad' words in admins/mods opinions?

Rostum
04-28-2003, 01:30 PM
Well I must agree, now that I look at it, that there probably shouldn't be anything like that. I mean I know you could do a seperate forum... But oh well.

I've noticed there's alot of "relationship" type threads, what if there was a subsection in EoY about relationships?

The reason i just thought about that sexual related thing was because, me being 16 and all, I'm going through things that I haven't done before and it's really weird for me... But yeah oh well. :)

Loony BoB
04-28-2003, 01:45 PM
I say we all start being elitist bastards and create a forum only for the people that the staff like, and we can talk about anything there. And it'll add on to our post counts. And the more posts you get, the better a person you are. And we can all get PM's saying "Can I have access to the Elite Forum?" and we can say "No, you suck, you're not worthy." and they can cry.

No, really. We can even conspire against all the sucky unworthy members. And when I say sucky unworthy members, they know who they are. Because they're sucky. And unworthy.

Yeah, that's right. Eltists are better than you.

*cuddle*

Mikztsu
04-28-2003, 01:57 PM
But of course, we always have Aiyon.:D

Loony BoB
04-28-2003, 02:08 PM
Forgetting Something?

...don't blame ya =P

Del Murder
04-28-2003, 05:46 PM
The Elite Forum already exists, you just weren't invited.

Mikztsu
04-28-2003, 07:04 PM
My point was, no need to make 'adult' forum, because Aiyon can be abused on same purpose.:cool:

edczxcvbnm
04-28-2003, 07:33 PM
Where is that report of how many people are under the age of 13 anyways? I remember bleys made that sweet little age poll thingy. Where is that anyways? That thing was cool!

eestlinc
04-28-2003, 09:12 PM
i say we just ban everyone and send out membership codes to the cool people. like Akumaou.

edczxcvbnm
04-28-2003, 11:04 PM
Originally posted by eestlinc
i say we just ban everyone and send out membership codes to the cool people. like Akumaou.

This could only lead to destruction...I am all for it.

Yamaneko
04-30-2003, 11:59 PM
Just don't talk about that stuff here, it's very easy.