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Big D
05-16-2003, 03:19 AM
Is it just me, or have the recently-relaxed rules resulted in a colossal inundation of mind-numbingly pointless spam threads in General Chat?

Farside
05-16-2003, 03:25 AM
http://www.eyesonff.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=33490

http://www.eyesonff.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=33419

http://www.eyesonff.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=33522

Agreed.

Del Murder
05-16-2003, 03:28 AM
It's just Bleys coming back, it'll pass.

Dr Unne
05-16-2003, 03:31 AM
Any spam I might've helped create has nothing to do with that announcement. :( Just a welcome back Bleys sort of thing. I don't think it'll continue for long.

Yamaneko
05-16-2003, 03:39 AM
It beats what we've been having for the past few months.

Farside
05-16-2003, 03:40 AM
Akuma and vincent06 spamming back and forth is better than a few slow days?

Can't agree with you there.

Night_Sword
05-16-2003, 03:43 AM
Ten four good buddy!

Shlup
05-16-2003, 03:55 AM
Originally posted by Del Murder
It's just Bleys coming back, it'll pass. *repeats that a few times for comfort*

Night_Sword
05-16-2003, 03:58 AM
http://www.eyesonff.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=33535

I rest my case.

RSL
05-16-2003, 04:40 AM
My head is about to explode seeing some decent (not great, but decent) thread ideas like the money thread get ruined by stuff like that...

Strider
05-16-2003, 06:18 AM
I agree with Yams. Sometimes the forums seemed a bit dreary with cynicism and such, but I thought the rule change was a good idea. But, like RSL said, when it detracts from the meaning of a real thread, it's conflictual to the rule's intended cause.

Citizen Bleys
05-16-2003, 11:56 AM
The Big Prune is coming, so people might as well get it out of their system now.

There's still the matter of things being up to individual knights' judgment. Crap threads are crap threads--It doesn't matter how the hell it's defined, we all know what they are. There will be no more loopholes.

The Man
05-16-2003, 05:46 PM
Can you ban people just for being idiots? Because it seems that a certain person (I'm not going to place any names here, just to avoid starting a needless flame war) fits that description really firmly. He's really getting on my nerves. :S

Loony BoB
05-16-2003, 05:56 PM
Originally posted by The Man
Can you ban people just for being idiots? Because it seems that a certain person (I'm not going to place any names here, just to avoid starting a needless flame war) fits that description really firmly. He's really getting on my nerves. :S
Manny, imagine where you would be if we banned people for getting on other people's nerves ;)

*run*

The Man
05-16-2003, 05:58 PM
:) @ BooB

Besides, the person in question isn't getting on just a few people's nerves, I think he's getting on almost everyone's nerves. And say what you will about me, but I don't think I was ever an idiot.

eestlinc
05-16-2003, 06:32 PM
Originally posted by Citizen Bleys
The Big Prune is coming, so people might as well get it out of their system now.


<img src=http://www.eestlinc.com/prunes.jpeg>

Del Murder
05-16-2003, 07:25 PM
Originally posted by The Man
:) @ BooB

Besides, the person in question isn't getting on just a few people's nerves, I think he's getting on almost everyone's nerves. And say what you will about me, but I don't think I was ever an <I>idiot</I>.
No one at this message board gets on my nerves.

Burtsplurt
05-16-2003, 07:41 PM
No-one gets on my nerves either. This place seems good at the moment.

Unless it's me, of course. :)

Agent Proto
05-16-2003, 08:12 PM
There are several people that fits your description Aaron. Of course we could ban them for being annoying, but I really see no point doing so here. Unless many of the staff members were annoyed by someone, and the person drew the last straw, then that's another story. ;)

Bulldog
05-16-2003, 10:04 PM
It's just you, D. *supa blind*

The Man
05-16-2003, 11:58 PM
I supported the idea of a more relaxed set of rules for awhile, but after seeing the effects it's having here, I really don't think it's good for EoFF. Frankly I'd rather not have pruning be a requisite and have things go back to the way they were, especially since the result of this is the introduction of mindless TRIPE like this (http://www.eyesonff.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=33572). I'm enjoying EoFF less these last couple of weeks than I have in the past.

Or maybe it's just Akumaou's INABILITY TO SHUT THE :skull::skull::skull::skull: UP that's making it hard for me to enjoy EoFF. *glare*

Red Wizard
05-17-2003, 12:02 AM
Originally posted by Del Murder
No one at this message board gets on my nerves.

Oh, I'm sure you can think of someone. *wink* <!-- It's just that I get on all the <i>right</i> nerves... heheh -->

Night_Sword
05-17-2003, 12:43 AM
I agree with The Man 100% on this one.

Big D
05-17-2003, 12:52 AM
Yeah, "fun" threads are good, but not endless, meaningless and quite repetitive 'topics' which have no actual scope for contribution or discussion. Maybe it was more 'boring' before, but at least you didn't have to wade through a kiloton of donkey doo-doo in order to find something worth talking about. All of the sensible threads are hidden amongst the tripe, which makes the GC forum that much more difficult to navigate.

Personally, I think it was 'fun' enough before - any threads that deserved to stay open, did.

But then, that's just my opinion. Maybe I'm being too picky and uptight about the whole 'spam' thing?

Mr. Graves
05-17-2003, 12:54 AM
Originally posted by The Man
Or maybe it's just Akumaou's INABILITY TO SHUT THE :skull::skull::skull::skull: UP that's making it hard for me to enjoy EoFF. *glare*

He's probably the reason I left. I was thinking of that today after much thought. Alot of the insulting that made me leave in the first place had alot to do with Akuma.

Something should be done, methinks.

The Man
05-17-2003, 01:25 AM
Originally posted by Big D
Maybe I'm being too picky and uptight about the whole 'spam' thing? No, you're not. And Akuma was part of the reason I left, too. I came back mostly because Bleys returned, but Bleys being back isn't enough to make the board worthwhile, it seems. ;/

Something should definitely be done, I think. i.e. banning Akumaou812.

Mr. Graves
05-17-2003, 01:29 AM
Originally posted by The Man
Something should definitely be done, I think. i.e. banning Akumaou812.

Take note, staff. The guy is a hassle. He disrupts the tranquil envornment I once enjoyed here.

Del Murder
05-17-2003, 01:38 AM
I do not approve of this behavior. Asking for people to be banned? That's trouble. Let them do their jobs.

Mr. Graves
05-17-2003, 01:41 AM
I'm only suggesting. The staff can do what they want. They can say, 'No. Akuma can stay.' I'll just shrug and live with it.

But yeah. I wasn't exactly asking. Just voiceing our opinions. If a poster is annoying more than one person and is making the board not so nice, I think the staff should know. That's my sole purpose of why I'm posting in this thread, giving Feedback.

Erdrick Holmes
05-17-2003, 01:41 AM
Well maybe if members such as Linus, Shoyku, and Ryukishii would not make such stupid posts just to irritate me this would not happen. Goddamn people leave me alone.

The Man
05-17-2003, 01:42 AM
Originally posted by Del Murder
I do not approve of this behavior. Asking for people to be banned? That's trouble. Let them do their jobs. I'm not 100% serious about the banning; I haven't been 100% serious about anything I've posted here in ages. But he should be made to settle down if he wants to continue posting here. A lot.

That's my opinion, anyway. But he's disrupted the once tranquil environment that was EoFF. I don't approve.

Edit: Blaming your own problems on others' behaviour, Akuma? That's a sure way to get on people's good sides. No, they're just doing that because you happen to annoy the :skull::skull::skull::skull: out of them.

Night_Sword
05-17-2003, 01:44 AM
Did you realise that people insult you, because of YOUR behavior?

Erdrick Holmes
05-17-2003, 01:48 AM
I disrupted the peace? It's like I said earlier Linus posts crap to perposly piss me off (along with Ryukishii) ans the bullcrap that Shoyku says and IMs me are the real reason this site is not tranquil anymore. They took a little flame that brought a little bit of light here and added gasloine to it and caused a huge destructive fire. So if you're gonna blame me at least balme them as well.

Shoyku
05-17-2003, 01:48 AM
Well Akuma, you could wait for us to leave you alone. Or you could just leave yourself. 9-D

The Man
05-17-2003, 01:50 AM
Originally posted by Akumaou812
I disrupted the peace? It's like I said earlier Linus posts crap to perposly piss me off (along with Ryukishii) ans the bullcrap that Shoyku says and IMs me are the real reason this site is not tranquil anymore. They took a little flame that brought a little bit of light here and added gasloine to it and caused a huge destructive fire. So if you're gonna blame me at least balme them as well.


- Edit Mr Rocko-

Please stay more respectful in your posts. That was a flame.

Dr Unne
05-17-2003, 01:53 AM
*Warn Warn Warn* If there's any problem, it's a problem with the whole lot of you, not just one of you, that's my unimportant non-Moderator no-trying-to-mod-whore opinion. It takes more than one person to argue. I'd like to know when anyone put any of us who've posted here so far in charge of the welfare of EoFF. *checks for Administrator under everyone's name* *not surprisingly, doesn't find it*

*doesn't get involved* *leaves*

Erdrick Holmes
05-17-2003, 01:55 AM
No. I blame you, and ONLY you. For being annoying. And forcing your opinions down other people's throats. And generally being an asshole and an idiot.

Forcing my opinions? My god it's like you said about not being 100% serious. I'm not 100% serious about the stuff I say. If people would learn to laugh along with stuff instead of acting like retards about it maybe there would not be so much crap about me that people say. I actually like it here, this happens to be my favorite forum board, if people here would quit complaining about me then maybe other members can enjoy it here.

Night_Sword
05-17-2003, 01:55 AM
I've never had a problem with Linus, Ryukishi or Shoyku, although most people couldn't say the same about me .Your annoying posts are the reason for the flames.

The Man
05-17-2003, 01:56 AM
I'd be a lot more accepting of this if Akuma's constant posting and ranting and name-calling hadn't driven about 487234723484 people away from EoFF. If the fact that he spams horribly and has a bloated ego didn't make me completely unable to respect him as a human being. If he actually bothered to respect other's opinions. If he weren't such an attention whore that you couldn't post at EoFF without seeing his name EVERY OTHER THREAD.

Yes, I'm getting worked up over this. But EoFF is a much worse place than it used to be. And it's mostly Akuma's fault.

Del Murder
05-17-2003, 01:58 AM
There is an ignore member feature if I am not mistaken. I'm not sure though, because I've never needed to use it.

The Man
05-17-2003, 01:59 AM
Originally posted by Akumaou812
Forcing my opinions? My god it's like you said about not being 100% serious. I'm not 100% serious about the stuff I say.You certainly haven't given the impression in the past.


If people would learn to laugh along with stuff instead of acting like retards about it maybe there would not be so much crap about me that people say.We only laugh at stuff if it's funny. You aren't.


I actually like it here, this happens to be my favorite forum board, if people here would quit complaining about me then maybe other members can enjoy it here. It'd be much easier for you to leave and stop posting than for others to stop griping about your posts, since you post so frequently and so unavoidably that it's impossible not to notice you. I'll say it again: Everyone that's claimed to like you lately has been taking the piss.

Del: Even if I ignored Akuma, I'd still have everyone else talking about his posts, so it wouldn't do much good.

Shoyku
05-17-2003, 01:59 AM
Originally posted by Dr Unne
I'd like to know when anyone put any of us who've posted here so far in charge of the welfare of EoFF. *checks for Administrator under everyone's name* *not surprisingly, doesn't find it*
We don't necessarily have to be administrators in order to decide the wellfare of a fora, it's the members of one that makes the fora. If we all left, there couldn't be an administrator in the world that could make a fora without members work. And if a lotta us have a problem with a particular member, I believe something should be done about that particular member. ;_;

Night_Sword
05-17-2003, 02:03 AM
Well to be honest I spam too much for my own good, and I think its time for me to get more serious about EOFF or threads about me will start popping up...

Erdrick Holmes
05-17-2003, 02:03 AM
Another source of this spam is (no offence to Vincent, Loki, or Mik) but making "worship Akuma" threads/posts look I appreciate being like and stuff but being WORSHIPPED, please, I'd rather be noticed as just that guy who made the FF8 video instead of the GOD. I'm playing along with this long enough *heads to change sig text.* All I ask is for people to quit making a big deal about me, the most that I feel should give me recognision is the Recognised member text, thats the most I ask. Quit making a big deal on nothing.

Leeza
05-17-2003, 02:04 AM
If anyone has a problem with a member they are to PM a Mod or Admin, not flame each other in posts. I'm really ashamed of quite a few people here lately. As I said somewhere before...if you have nothing nice to say about someone them DON'T SAY ANYTHING AT ALL. I've had enough with the flaming of Akuma.

m4tt
05-17-2003, 02:14 AM
If you don't have anything nice to say, don't say anything at all. *looks at all the people insulting akuma*

Shlup
05-17-2003, 02:14 AM
I'm sorry Akuma isn't articulate or sophisticated enough for the lot of you, but if one member is enough to make you unable to enjoy yourself in a place with several thousand people, then I think you're the ones with the problem. No, I'm sure you're the one's with the problem; Akuma doesn't bug me at all.
Originally posted by The Man
If he weren't such an attention whore that you couldn't post at EoFF without seeing his name EVERY OTHER THREAD. Look who's talking, Aaron. Your attitude about this is so not something I'd expect from you. I thought you had some tact, but if you think one guy is such a big problem then you've got your own message board where you're free to ban him.
Originally posted by Del Murder
There is an ignore member feature if I am not mistaken.Yes, there is. Thank you for showing some sense here, Del.

The Man
05-17-2003, 02:15 AM
I'd be more accepting of this if he hadn't caused a whole buncha people to leave eoff. It's not me that left because of him. I spoke up because all this false worship has really been cheesing me off. If it weren't so impossible to find ANYTHING ELSE in general chat I suppose I wouldn't be so outspoken about this. But, y'no.

Also, I already explained why Del Murder's idea, in this particular case, would do next to no good whatsoever. He's posting almost as much as I was back in the day, except replace informative posts with... the kind of stuff he posts. ;/

Shlup
05-17-2003, 02:17 AM
If anyone has left, it's because they chose to. Saying Akuma made them leave is just childish.

The Man
05-17-2003, 02:19 AM
I suppose it's your choice if you want to let him continue being around here to irritate people that much then. You see what it's done to me.

m4tt
05-17-2003, 02:21 AM
Originally posted by ShlupQuack
If anyone has left, it's because they chose to. Saying Akuma made them leave is just childish.

Indeed.

Shlup
05-17-2003, 02:22 AM
He's just posting, it's everyone else that's making a big deal about it. If you just can't deal with people who don't live up to your standards, then go ahead and leave EoFF. Are you going to turn into a jerk at or leave everywhere else that has a person that you dislike too? This whole thing is horrible. Why can't anyone just leave Akuma alone?

Night_Sword
05-17-2003, 02:23 AM
Well, fun is fun, but if the moderators don't want me insulting any members then so be it.

I can see what it has done to the man, and to state my opinion Akuma annoys me, however not to the point of leaving EOFF, not even close.

I will not make any promises about fools-gold though. He's on Aarons territory there.

The Man
05-17-2003, 02:25 AM
Again, if he weren't so OMNI-PRESENT I wouldn't have such a problem coping with his presence here. Remember last year when people, including various staff members, made a big deal out of ME being omni-present? This is like that, only about four times worse. Yes, people aren't nice to him. But frankly I think he brings that upon himself by being so set in his ways. I don't know really, but the fact that he keeps hinting that he should be a recognized member because "I'm cool" really really grates against me. In the old days no one would have let such a comment stand.

Dr Unne
05-17-2003, 02:28 AM
Akuma has never bothered me either in the slightest, just for the record. I think a lot of people are ganging up on someone for no reason at all. I thought we'd be above that kind of thing. We're a bunch of computer dorks, we should know what it feels like to be on the receiving end of this crap. A lot of people bug me here and elsewhere, but I don't go around instigating them and flaming them and telling them to leave the MB. Yay for having a little respect, and following the MB rules against flaming, and not acting like a jerk.

Shlup
05-17-2003, 02:32 AM
Please Aaron, you wreak of hypocracy right now. Hinting that he should be an RM? Step back for a moment and take a look at yourself for a moment, and then get back to me on that one.

At this point I would venture to say that Akuma brings these attacks on himself by being who he is is like saying a woman brought on a sexual assault herself by wearing a low-cut shirt.

Now you want people to stop making a big deal out of Akuma making him omni-present? Then lets start with everyone reading this: Akuma is just another guy, no more annoying then many of the other members here that have not been targeted to be picked on. Get over it and grow up.

Night_Sword
05-17-2003, 02:32 AM
Well there you have it, Unne made me feel guilty in one post.

The Man
05-17-2003, 02:39 AM
Originally posted by ShlupQuack
Please Aaron, you wreak of hypocracy right now. Hinting that he should be an RM? Step back for a moment and take a look at yourself for a moment, and then get back to me on that one.No, he's DEMANDING to be made an RM without giving any good reasons for it. I've jokingly hinted that the staff should RM me because I've done plenty of tangible things for EoFF, even if they're probably not enough to get me RMed (which I myself will admit, and since I wasn't serious when I made the suggestion, I don't see how you can use that argument against me). Plus, I haven't been serious when I've posted in this particular forum for ages now; I thought I'd already made that explicitly clear. Tonight is the first time I've said something serious in Feedback for a long long time. Listen to him here (http://www.eyesonff.com/forums/showthread.php?postid=562950#post562950) though.


I realize that people are trying to piss me off and I must admit that I am taking it pretty well. I read that thread about me on ASC and I must say, Shoyku I officlally hate your guts, at least I am mentioned on other forum boards, I love spreading my torment disease, I won't stop till the whole world recieves my vengence, or untill I become recognized.That's just crap.


Now you want people to stop making a big deal out of Akuma making him omni-present? Then lets start with everyone reading this: Akuma is just another guy, no more annoying then many of the other members here that have not been targeted to be picked on. Get over it and grow up. I really can't agree with that, but if people will stop making a big deal out of his posts, I suppose I'll be able to slap him on Ignore and go about enjoying EoFF again. It's just that all this drama surrounding him makes him impossible to ignore whether you use that feature or not.

Finally, you seem to keep saying that if he doesn't meet to our standards we should leave. I just want to pose one question to you: Isn't that what happens in bannings? It's the Staff's standards being used instead, sure. But it's the same thing, isn't it?

Anyway I'm off to dinner.

Shlup
05-17-2003, 02:44 AM
This is what it boils down to: Get over it, or get out.

The Man
05-17-2003, 02:52 AM
Fine. *leaves*

Mr Rocko
05-17-2003, 02:57 AM
*closes thread*


This thread seems to be getting out of hand here.


Someone can start a new one if they want, but please avoid flamming.

Big Ogre Umaro
05-17-2003, 03:09 AM
Thanks Rocko *huggles*

Just for the record, my stance:

http://www.loc.gov/exhibits/oliphant/oa048.jpg

"You are black, sir."