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Fuzakeru
07-04-2003, 06:10 AM
Okay, I started replaying FF8 again ( for the 8th time ) and I actually got mad. This irritates me . . .
Selphie - Irvine
Rinoa - Squall
Zell - Chick at the Library

Whose there for Quistis? If I had it my way I would have sparked somethin' between Seifer and Quistis. I think their chemistry was great ( even if I don't think they developed the two characters enough ).
They just seem to have the wonderful love, hate relationship that would have been interesting to view. What do you think?

Wightraven
07-04-2003, 06:19 AM
I absolutely LOVE Seifer. I've always said that my opinion of FF8 would be stellar if he were the main character and not that whiny git Squall, but I digress.

Seifer and Quistis... now there's an interesting proposition. A little bit of the good responsible girl going for the bad boy, hmmm?

May be the source for some very loverly fanfic, or at least some H, eh?

Fuzakeru
07-04-2003, 06:34 AM
I've always found the story of Seifer to be much more intriquing than Squall's. *Shrugs* Seifer wasn't a bad person and I think he was very sweet and romantic with talk about his dreams and such. He was ( and still is ) my favorite Final Fantasy character and I doubt that any other will take his place. ^_^- Even though all the bad things that came out of it, Seifer was true to himself and his romantic dream. *Smiles* That's what was so attractive about him.

I think that Quistis could hold her own with him. You can see where she isn't afraid to challenge him where others are. The whole "Good Luck" thing in the beginning had me totally swooning over the two as an item. ^_^-

Maybe it's just me but I could see their relationship being more interesting than Rinoa and Squall's was.

Ultima Seraph
07-04-2003, 08:26 AM
LadySteph, I noticed that yesterday when i was staring at the wall scroll of FFVIII that my roomie has.

Quistis is a good, strong female, though... and personally, as her character, she doesn't really need a guy... although with the theme of love running rampant in this FF, I don't know why she never ended up with anyone.

Big D
07-04-2003, 09:00 AM
I'm not fond of Seifer. He was arrogant and often abusive, particularly toward Quistis. I didn't see any 'chemistry' at all... remember how Seifer threatened to torture her if Squall didn't answer his questions?

His attitude toward Rinoa demonstrated, for me, that he's very quick to turn his back on a relationship. Quistis, on the other hand, seems more serious and deep.
Quistis is a good, strong female, though... and personally, as her character, she doesn't really need a guy... although with the theme of love running rampant in this FF, I don't know why she never ended up with anyone.Maybe they wanted to show that there isn't a 'happy ending' for everyone? As in reality, some people just always miss out.

Erdrick Holmes
07-04-2003, 04:12 PM
Xu! *runs*

Shorty
07-04-2003, 05:49 PM
I didn't like Quistis very much. She just seemed so.. needy. Seifer is an over-confident self-centered menace, though he's hard not to like. I don't think they'd make a good pair. However, if they did get together, Quistis would very quickly have her heart broken and Seifer would end up a a strip club with Raijin.

Savannah
07-08-2003, 11:45 PM
Originally posted by Big D
His attitude toward Rinoa demonstrated, for me, that he's very quick to turn his back on a relationship.

Who WOULDN'T turn his back on Rinoa? I think it's less a loyalty issue than it is a perfectionist issue. I just don't see Seifer letting an annoying bubbly lovestruck puppy follow him around. Seifer strikes me as the kind of person who would be a virgin just because he hasn't found anyone up to his standards. Quistis is a tough girl, but I don't think she'd have the patience for Seifer. She's strict and serious, and Seifer's cocky, self-indulgent and mischevious. I also see Quistis as kind of... um, lesbian, or at least bi (which isn't a bad thing at all, of course). O_o The whole being in love with Squall thing seems very unfitting for her.

Big D
07-09-2003, 09:18 AM
Well, in Galbadia Garden Seifer tries to manipulate Rinoa using their past relationship as a verbal ploy, suggesting he still cares, and then sets out to kill her. Hence my assessment of him.

Savannah
07-09-2003, 03:45 PM
Originally posted by Big D
Well, in Galbadia Garden Seifer tries to manipulate Rinoa using their past relationship as a verbal ploy, suggesting he still cares, and then sets out to kill her. Hence my assessment of him.

That's because it's RINOA. She's stupid, clingy, and altogether very easily manipulated. I don't think it was that Seifer is a heartless person quick to abandon relationships- I think that, if he ever shared real, honest-to-goodness love with someone, he'd be very loyal. I doubt the Seifer x Rinoa thing was very serious to begin with. Maybe I loathe Rinoa too much to see her with one of my favorite characters and it's affecting my opinion, but I think a real relationship between them was just Rinoa being delusional Rinoa.

remi07
07-09-2003, 04:43 PM
Hey Quistis has that Trepie#1 doesn't she?

Peegee
07-10-2003, 10:34 AM
Trepies are just groupies.

I personally think Quistis is too good for any of those boys.

TheAbominatrix
07-10-2003, 10:41 AM
Quistis is hot, strict, and yields a whip with an incredible amount of skill. Methinks she should quit Garden and head out to be a professional dominatrix, and have a legion of elgible and submissive men and women at her disposal *nods*

Fuzakeru
07-12-2003, 07:04 PM
Seifer and Rinoa . . . bleh. Anyway, Seifer can't be THAT heartless. He did after all help Rinoa and even went to Timber for her. ( even if he did screw things up . . . ^^; )

ShivaBlizzard8
07-13-2003, 04:52 AM
Although there is little evidence to support a Quistis/Seifer pairing in the game, and I never thought of it personally before having it suggested to me by other FF8 fans, I must say I have become a fan of the "Quifer" relationship. Sure, its just speculation, sure, it would probably never happen, but its just plain fun, and it adds another dimension to a female character who didn't get much play in the actual game.

I also think that Quistis and Seifer are quite similar in some ways; both are talented individuals who ultimately fail at the task they are assigned because they are not quite cut out for it personality-wise (Seifer doesnt' make SeeD, Quistis is fired as an Instructor). As a result of this failure, they both suffer blows to their egos which leads them into self-doubt. They both require lots of attention and approval from others; Seifer's need for acceptance leads him to follow the Sorceresses, while Quistis' need sends her chasing after Squall. Finally, they both have stubborn, dominating personalities - both like to be in control of every situation and have difficulty dealing with things when they are not.

I think they'd have an interesing relationship - and I think in a fight, neither would back down. Rinoa is too submissive for Seifer - he may have enjoyed her rebelious streak at first, but I can see Seifer wanting someone who's more likely to stand up to him and not put up with his crap. Quistis would tell him where to go. :p

Wightraven
07-13-2003, 07:47 AM
*applauds* Excellent. I'm now a firm believer in the Quifer relationship. You definitely have a way with words.

HOOTERS
07-13-2003, 02:46 PM
Personally, I'm a firm believer in the Quorg relationship, whereby the only way Quistis made instructor was by sleeping with NORG.

chocoboy
07-14-2003, 01:51 AM
Originally posted by Hootenanny
Personally, I'm a firm believer in the Quorg relationship, whereby the only way Quistis made instructor was by sleeping with NORG.

That actually makes a lot more sense. Quistis wasn't instructer material. She said so herself. "lacks leadership qualities" or something like that.

She would have never passed the job application if it weren't for NORG...

Wightraven
07-14-2003, 04:01 AM
Ack! Stop it! Mine virgin* eyes can't take the obscenity you doth post... eth!

*Wightraven's eyes are in no way, shape, or form, virgin. However, this "Quorg" nonsense sickens him, as Quistis isn't THAT type of girl.

TheAbominatrix
07-14-2003, 04:04 AM
I dont thing any girl is that kind of girl.

Quorg = EW

ShivaBlizzard8
07-14-2003, 08:10 PM
NORG? Ugh. Besides, Quistis didn't know he even existed!

And what is all this nonsense about Quistis not having the skills to be a good instructor? Quistis was made an instructor because she had all the tactical and intellectual faculties to be an amazing teacher. Her obvious talent and desire to please her superiors most likely made her sure-fire instructor material before she even became a SeeD.

Quistis' problem was that she was just too young. She was the youngest student in GARDEN to become a SeeD, and the youngest ever appointed as an instructor. As a result, she ended up being only slightly older (and in some cases, younger) than her students. Anyone who has tried teaching knows that it is almost impossible to hold authority over those who are your own age or older. Students have difficulty respecting a leader who has arguably less world experience than they do. Of course, since Quistis was the first to ever hold such a position at a young age, her superiors had no way of knowing how it would work out, which is probably why she was monitored closely. Therefore, it was too much talent which led to her downfall rather than a lack of it. Give her about 10 years and she'll probably be one of the best instructors at GARDEN. :)


Originally posted by Wightraven
You definitely have a way with words.
*bows* Why thank you. Hopefully my Creative Writing major was the appropriate choice. :)

Garnet129
07-14-2003, 09:04 PM
Um...are we under the assumption that Rinoa and Seifer actually had some sort of a boyfriend/girlfriend relationship here? From what I know, that never happened. I believe that Rinoa said she had a crush on him 'last summer' when she was 16, and that she 'never knew if he felt the same'. Just a brief point.

Anyway, moving on, yes, I do think Quifer would be very viable...but as ShivaBlizzard8 has brilliantly laid out most of the points I have little to add. I will try to contribute something here...

Okay, more feeble comparisions between Quistis and Seifer. First, let's notice that, besides Ellone, they are the other two older childeren of the orphanage group (the two 18-year-olds as of the game's time, whereas Ellone is somewhere in her twenties and the others are all 17)...interesting, no? Also, notice how everyone has a sort of 'role'...Squall is the *reluctant* leader, Selphie is the planner, Quistis is of course the teacher (the others had to learn from someone, right?) and also the 'caretaker' so to speak, Seifer is the one man 'disciplinary commitee' (we're talking about just the orphanage kids), and Zell and Irvine are the fighters, close and long range (I thought of this all a while ago and I knew I had something more for these two but it escapes me at the moment). Make of that what you will, just some more points...

And if I ever hear a serious conversation about Quorg I am going to go royally insane.

Fuzakeru
07-16-2003, 06:41 PM
Quorg? *Blinks* Brilliant deduction! *Runs off to write a Quorg fic* ;)

Kami
07-16-2003, 07:27 PM
Originally posted by Wightraven or at least some H, eh?
Hentai???

Wightraven
07-16-2003, 11:25 PM
Well, being that I'm a prevert (yes, PREvert) yes, I meant hentai. I prefer just calling it "H", though.

Big D
07-17-2003, 12:13 AM
Um...are we under the assumption that Rinoa and Seifer actually had some sort of a boyfriend/girlfriend relationship here? From what I know, that never happened. I believe that Rinoa said she had a crush on him 'last summer' when she was 16, and that she 'never knew if he felt the same'. Just a brief point.
Nope, they were definitely involved, for a while at least. She didn't say she never knew if he felt the same way; but at one point, early on, she wasn't entirely sure if she was completely over him. That's why she was so upset about the announcement of his impending execution.

Just a side note... if any of you want to discuss hentai, use the PMs and not the forums. Any discussions on pornography will be shut down PDQ.

remi07
07-17-2003, 01:15 AM
Rinoa didn't seem very upset to me when she heard the annoucement of Seifer being executed. It was like "OMG, Seifer's dead. I think i was in love with him. Oh well, I guess I'll chase after Squall now."
I like the whole "Quifer" thing! They're perfect for each other when you think about it. But the Quorg sounds believable too...
**reads LadySteph's Quorg fic**

Wightraven
07-17-2003, 07:34 AM
*resists the urge to defend himself concerning you-know-what*

As casually as I played through FFVIII ONCE (as it was loathesome) I picked up that Seifer and Rinoa had a little something going on before the whole game, though if it WAS something it was probably just highschool stuff...

... unlike all the other relationships in the game, of course. *shakes head at the game's juvenility... and makes up a new word*

Rinoas'_evil_twin
07-17-2003, 11:16 AM
I love the idea of the whols "Quifer". Seifer and Quistis ROCK. Squall was very wussy anyway. When Squall and Seifer had the fight at the beginning of the game, who was the one who mooched in the infirmary and walked round with a huge bandage on his head? It wasn't Seifer that's for sure!

ShivaBlizzard8
07-17-2003, 09:00 PM
Originally posted by Big D
Nope, they were definitely involved, for a while at least. She didn't say she never knew if he felt the same way; but at one point, early on, she wasn't entirely sure if she was completely over him.
I agree - too much is alluded to in the game to pass off Seifer and Rinoa's relationship as anything less than romantic. It is most likely that they had a summer fling and parted amiably - therefore, during the game, there was still unresolved feelings between the two to them.


Originally posted byLockHeart1988

Rinoa didn't seem very upset to me when she heard the annoucement of Seifer being executed. It was like "OMG, Seifer's dead. I think i was in love with him. Oh well, I guess I'll chase after Squall now."
Actually, Rinoa doesn't take it particularly well. When Squall's says that Seifer is dead, Rinoa relpies:
"How can you be so casual? He sacrificed himself for the Forest Owls..."

And when Selphie asks: "Do you still like him?"
Rinoa replies:
"If I didn't, I wouldn't be talking about it. It was last summer...I was 16. Lots of fond memories..."

She also defends his character constantly, like here: "I think...he came to help us - The Forrest Owls. . . I talked about it a lot with him. So please...don't think too badly of him."

I don't get the impression that she is still in love with him, but she still considers Seifer her friend, and she really wants her new friends (including Squall) to accept him as part of her past. And besides, she didn't seriously begin to persue Squall until later in the game - Disc Two, really. I mean, come on, she ditches Squall on the dance floor to go meet up with Seifer. ;)
However, I often argue that during the game, Seifer is still in love with her. It is widely assumed that her connection to Seifer is what got her the meeting with Cid (and thus her prescence at the ball) to have GARDEN aid her resistance group, The Forrest Owls. Seifer obviously pulled some strings for her here, since it is stated that Cid was helping her as a favor since her group couldn't afford to hire SeeDs normally.
Although Seifer would never admit his feelings for her in front of others (in keeping with his tough guy image), he still has a soft spot for her which is often apparent. For example, when he comes after the city leader on disc one, the way he acts towards Rinoa gets Zell's attention:
Zell: "I get it! You're Rinoa's..."
Seifer: "Shut your damn mouth! You chicken!"
I think it is safe to say what Zell was about to say was "boyfriend."
By disc two, when Rinoa's feelings for Squall have strengthened, and overtaken her feelings for Seifer, Seifer begins to show jealousy. In the battle against him at the end of the disc, he gets upset that Rinoa is standing against him with Squall, and says something like:
"Rinoa, what are you doing here? You're gonna fight me, too? Come on, remember a year ago we..."
Rinoa, obviously distraught, interupts him saying, "Stop it!"
He obviously feels betrayed by someone he loved. This sense of betrayal justifies Selfer's violence toward Rinoa later in the game, during the confrontation with Adel. Why would he suddenly hate her so much? Perhaps because by this point, she is pretty much "with" his ultimate rival and his jealousy knows no bounds? Wars have been fought over less. His additude becomes almost, "If I can't have her, no one will." Yeah, there was def. more to them than casual friendship. :)

Rand Al'Tor
07-17-2003, 09:16 PM
I have to say I'm with the Seinoa Squistis coupling. (so Rinoa and Seifer, and Quistis and Squall) Both Rinoa and Seifer seem to have an open, challenging, playful, but occasionally stormy and hurtful temprament. If you'd match them together, they'd probably often fight, but between those times they'd probably both be rather...pasionnate. (good fights make for good make-up... *eyes moderators* for good make-up... Rinoa's mascarra will look great)

On the other hand, Squall and Quistis are both calm but pretty sensitive on the inside. Neither of them is likely to play games with each other, which is good as both would probably react badly at being toyed with. Their relation would probably be the kind people often wonder whether it exists, except when one of them was in danger or need.

Of course, that's not the way it ended. Squall and Rinoa ended up together. Quistis and Seifer relatively alone. But if those two would shack up, they'll both have problems I think, Seifer will hurt Quistis with his temper and challenging, and Quistis' bossiness and adherence to rules will probably come across betrayal to Seifer. But of course, all can be overcome with the power of 'lurv'.

same with Squall and Rinoa. Even after Squall's smile, Rinoa will probably have to get used of living with someone who keeps his emotions pretty private, and Squall is gonna have to learn to cope with Rinoa's whims and tempers. That CAN go wrong, that CAN go right. But once again, 'lurv' can prevail.

Wightraven
07-17-2003, 10:09 PM
Rinoa's mascarra will look great

HA! That's beautiful. *applauds*

Anyway, all the reasons I am a subscriber to the Quifer theory are listed on page one of this thread.

And although you make some good points, relationships like Seifer and Rinoa don't always work out... one of my many ex girls acted quite a bit like Rinoa, I quite a bit like Seifer. It was those qualities that we shared with the characters in the game that led to our eventual downfall as a couple. And there was no good make-up anything.

Squall and Quistis wouldn't work well, either. Quisty is too no-nonsense to take all the crap of Squall's "oo, lookit me, I'm a brooding badass" attitude. She'd either whip it out of him (no pun intended) or they'd split up, too.

Squall and Rinoa isn't a bad pairing, as Rinoa has the kind of personality that can melt Squall's exterior and possibly bring out the inner him... make him more like Leon from KH... hmmm...

Fuzakeru
07-17-2003, 10:19 PM
*Laughs* LockHeart1988 - *Shakes head* Just no . . . *Shudders* The notion of Norg and Quistis . . . eh, just no. *Blinks* How would they - *Shakes head again* I'll just stop right there and I'll let 'no' stand alone. ^_^-

I agree. Rinoa was quite disturbed after the announcement about Seifer. However, it didn't seem to take long for her to get over it . . . *Rolls eyes* . . . or maybe I'm just to blinded by my hatred to notice her grieving. ^^-

Rand Al'Tor
07-17-2003, 10:26 PM
Hm, Rinoa could (and does indeed) melt some of Squall's outer defences. But she seems to me like she desires plenty more emotional outbursts then Squall would give under normal circumstances. Unless she's planning on getting in lifethreathening situations in a regular basis, Squall's 'coolness'may cause 'bad things' to happen. Especially since Squall is NOT able to deal with her trhowing a temper tantrum. He'd probably just stay quiet until she'd get so angry she'd accidentally hurt him, and Squall doesn't take well to hurting like that. Of course, Squall COULD melt, and Rinoa COULD be less demanding in manners of responses (the duty of being a Sorceress could very well cause some changes into her) but for the characters to remain as they are... (note that I speak with an utter lack of experience in all matters Romantic. )

Big D
07-18-2003, 12:32 AM
Rinoa was quite disturbed after the announcement about Seifer. However, it didn't seem to take long for her to get over it . . . *Rolls eyes* . . . or maybe I'm just to blinded by my hatred to notice her grieving. ^^-Rinoa is not without her strengths. She can overcome certain types of pain quite easily. Since her relationship with Seifer was over, his 'death' wasn't so troubling for her.

She'd spent a while fighting for Timber. She was prepared to kill, and prepared to die. That kind of thing would tend to harden one's heart a little.

ShivaBlizzard8
07-18-2003, 04:56 AM
Originally posted by Rand Al'Tor
Of course, Squall COULD melt, and Rinoa COULD be less demanding in manners of responses (the duty of being a Sorceress could very well cause some changes into her) but for the characters to remain as they are...
Well, I agree that Squall and Rinoa probably wouldn't work out IF they had stayed the same as they were in the beginning of the game. However, I think that one of the main points of the story was about striving towards emotional maturity. A psycological "coming of age" story for all the characters, especially Squall.

Squall's coldness at the beginning of the game wasn't a given, as we are first led to believe, but the result of the pain and loss of his early childhood. Squall suffered a big loss through his dependency on Ellone, and as a result, attempted to avoid future hurt by shutting himself off from the world. However, as we see in some of Squall thoughts, he doesn't like the person he's become. He WANTS to be a social, caring person - its just been so long that he doesn't know how. He is drawn to Rinoa because she so easily displays the skills which he, despite all his training, lacks. So, its not really a question of IF Squall will melt, but how long it will take him to adjust to his new lifestyle.
As for Rinoa, one of her big lessons in the game is to guard her emotions a little more carefully and to act less implusively. Her failures in capturing the Deling president and beating Edea on her own were serious blows to her ego and did humble her a bit. Also, her reluctance to share her every thought seemed to dampen slightly as the game continued - she hid the fact she was a sorceress from Squall until confronted with her capture in Esthar, Squall had to seek her out and get her to talk at the flower field, etc. Finally, she began making descions which she felt benifited the group rather than herself - for instance, surrendering herself over to Esthar was arguably the right thing to do if she wanted to protect her friends. So Rinoa made less noticable moves towards responsibilty, as Squall made efforts to be more carefree. The adage that opposites attract, especially when one partner holds an aspect that the other wishes for themself, is quite true here. :)

Celes
08-01-2003, 10:14 AM
ShivaBlizzard8, you definetly have a grasp on the final fantasy 8 characters! I agree with everything you said, especially about Quisis and Seifer, their similar controlling personalities, and how good of a couple they would be.

Rinoas'_evil_twin
08-01-2003, 12:40 PM
It sounds like a real good idea but I think that after a week, one of them would have killed the other.;p

alcatraz-ette
08-22-2003, 06:45 AM
yeah, quiefer definitely has a good chance. seifer would (over time) help quistis learn to have a bit of fun every once in a while; and quistis would help seifer learn to grow up (just a LITTLE bit).

oh, go to fanfiction.net if you want to read good quiefer fics, there's tons!

Kenshin IV
08-22-2003, 07:27 AM
One of the biggest problems with Eight wasn't that it was a love story, but that it was a bad... horrible... terrible love story. Rinoa and Squall had no chemestry, and their romance was completely unbelievable. They meet, barely socialize throught the fist disc, and all of a sudden they're in love..... yeah, right.
What does this have to do with the topic you ask? Well, unlike Squall and Rinoa, Squall and Quistis did have chemestry. Their relationship actually had development..... up to a point. Then when Rinoa steps in Quistis says she "doesn't care," and we're supposed to believe that? Yeah, I don't think so.
Now, this was one of the major flaws with that amazingly flawed game, but not the only one. There were others, but that's for another topic.

Big D
08-22-2003, 07:33 AM
I agree, Kenshin IV. There should've been a whole lot more emphasis on Quistis' role, I think. Real-life romantic situations are fraught with difficulty, pain, loss, heartbreak, uncertainty, confusion and doubt - for some of us, anyway. FFVIII kind of glossed over the negative side and just focussed on providing yet another 'perfect' fictional love story - which, as per usual, had very little in common with such situations in the real world.

Kenshin IV
08-22-2003, 07:39 AM
Exactly. There was just no development in Squall and Rinoa's relationship at all. Like I said, they barely even talked to each other in the first disc. Then, for no apparent reason, they just suddenly fall head-over-heels for each other? I don't think so.

Celes
08-24-2003, 07:31 AM
I agree, Kenshin, Rinoa and Squall didn't get along in the beginning and then all of a sudden they love each other. I didn't even think (at the beginning of the game) that they would get together at all! When you find out Quistis has a thing for Squall but he pretty much ignores her, it seems totally realistic. I expected the game to elaborate more on Quistis and her affection towards Squall. But, I guess Squall had built a wall around him, and didn't let anyone get close to him for so long, he needed someone bouncy and determined like Rinoa to break him out of his shell. I would have loved to see Quistis happy with someone, she deserves it.

Mr. Graves
08-24-2003, 01:42 PM
Originally posted by Big D
I agree, Kenshin IV. There should've been a whole lot more emphasis on Quistis' role, I think.

There should've been more emphasis on not just her, but Selphie, Irvine, Zell and the other characters besides the main few. Some development on Ward and Kiros would've made Laguna interesting too, methinks, but made Square didn't want to make it into one of those "interactive movie" RPGs that seem to be popular these days. (The kind where half, nay, 65% of an RPG is watching cinematics, like FF10 or Xenosaga.) Even a little elaboration on those characters would've helped the game a great deal, I think.

Anyway, Quistis is one of those characters who, I think, isn't meant to have anyone. I don't think Seifer = Quistis would be a good match, but I dunno. If he didn't run off to Timber the day after she got demoted from her position.....oh well. What happened, happened.

The whole NORG = Quistis theory Hoot mentioned made me crack up. :D I needed that.

Lena
09-02-2003, 01:09 AM
ShivaBlizzard rules!!!!! I totally agree with you.

Fuzakeru
09-03-2003, 12:34 AM
I am STILL Repulsed by the idea of QUORG. *Slaps Quorg fans in head with fish* ^_^-

ivory
09-04-2003, 04:08 AM
NORG and Quistis.......it'll never happen........never ever.

Thanx to ShivaBlizzard8 I am now convinced that seifer and rinoa did have a serious relationship. but it only lasted for a while. since *squall comes waltzing in out of nowhere* rinoa falls for him. not to mention the fact of what seifer does. we all know what he did. ya know...sorceress?

n-e-wayz, i waz alwayz a fan of quifer. they rule! they would be the best couple of ff8. perhaps even the best couple of all the ff's. besides, opposites attract remember? quistis is alwayz so serious and seifer is alwayz laid-back and they've both had their heart broken. they would be a match made in heaven. :D
ah........love....:love:
http://www.ffonline.com/media/index.php?lookup=artwork:ff8:quistis_port.jpg http://www.ffonline.com/media/index.php?lookup=artwork:ff8:seifer_port.jpg
here's a site with a picture of them. quistis in one site and seifer in the other. aren't they cute?

~*Crystal*~
09-04-2003, 02:49 PM
Yep, they'd be by far the best couple of the game... Quistis needs someone to boss around and Seifer needs someone to 'annoy'. It'd be the classic 'first-they-fight-all-the-time-then-they-end-up-together' kind of thing. Imagine the passion coming out of a relationship like that...

And BTW, Seifer's not cute, he's HOT! Evil guys rule :rock:

MagicKnight Locke
09-04-2003, 02:57 PM
How about:Ultifer and Quisodine

ivory
09-06-2003, 09:53 PM
No no no no no and did i forget.......No!!!!!
Quifer all the way!:love:

alcatraz-ette
09-10-2003, 04:02 AM
um.... sure. if you're into that sort of thing.

Future Esthar
10-13-2004, 03:15 AM
An interesting theory from my little brother:
Letīs suppose time compression already happened in the beggining of FF8.
If we look to the relationships of the main characters and their feelings we can spot that:
Seifer and Edea =Rinoaīs fathers
Squall and Rinoa =Zellīs fathers
Zell and Quistis =Selphies fathers
Selphie will marry with Irvine.
Caraway adopted Rinoa (Ultimeciaīs fault she was orphan concerning the father)
Ma Dincht adopted Zell (Ultimeciaīs fault again)
The White seedīs constitute the rest of the family (Irvineīs fathers,Quistis fathers,uncles,nephius,etc)
Dincht was the natural surname of Zellīs adoptive father.
Quistis love for Zell colds in the game because she was an instructor and it colds her love (Quistis also have a pigtail doesnīt she?)

nik0tine
10-13-2004, 05:48 AM
Ahhh Future Esthar... You are the reviver of archaic threads, are you not?

Anyways, your theory doesn't seem to make any sense to me...

Turk
10-13-2004, 08:04 PM
Seifer is the man but why do so many people like Quistis?? She has SERIOUS emotional problems, and I'd much rather be around someone like Rinoa than that crazy broad. Stop fantasizing.

Ultimate Xdeath
12-22-2004, 01:10 PM
yeah, quiefer definitely has a good chance. seifer would (over time) help quistis learn to have a bit of fun every once in a while; and quistis would help seifer learn to grow up (just a LITTLE bit).

oh, go to fanfiction.net if you want to read good quiefer fics, there's tons!
I recommend "Fire and Ice". It's the best I've read, although I doucbt it'll ever continue anymore.

I myself beleive that the whole Seiftis/Quifer/Quiefer idea is based upon the allmost magnetic qualities that opposites have on eachother. As stated above, the two would learn from eachother.

Seifer could learn some self-control from our dazzling instructor.
Quistis on the other hand could learn to lose some of her self control from the former knight of the sorceress.

Seifer and Rinoa have too many things in common for their relationship to ever actually work. They'd end up in eachothers throats

The same goes for Quistis and Squall. Too many similarities do tend to break up people.

The whole thing is like magnetism. + & + = push. + & - = pull.

Wolfmeister
12-26-2004, 06:34 PM
I think both are the same.....

both have very much same personalities which is bad for starting a relationships. Shortly they both are too ummm egoistic??!.

Seifer is stubborn, ambitious and arrogant leader, I think he LOVES and likes to help someone who needs him (as leader especially perhaps) like Rinoa.... he wants people to obey him instead of following the rules...... right or wrong. He doesn't like someone who disobey or outwit him. He wants to control everyone, confront everyone who against him and his actions. And he likes something extreme. Like Rinoa's plan to liberate Timber and oppose Deling..... he helped her to achieve it that far.

Meanwhile Quistis is not that different from Seifer. She's just too independent, too confident, very smart, and sometimes can be really bossy if she comes to decide something that no one could argue her..... even us maybe :D
BUT she doesnt like something extreme, rude, outplanned, stupid and out of rules.... She really knows who she is with her skills plus charm and she has proof for it! On the contrary, Seifer has talent but use it in wrong way and brings him to nothing in the end, Quistis will always pity him instead of love or need him.

I dont think Seifer can start to be interested with such kind of powerful woman either with similar personalities but different vision or attitude in life.
The story would be different if only both had same vision..... and different (or same) personalities.

And Quistis got feeling on Squall not because of something reasonable :D from my opinion, it's because only Squall that didn't give any attention to her, neither attracted nor interested..... never sharing emotions or talks to her as woman, friend, or even instructor unlike EVERYONE did especially Trepe Groupie. She can't accept that and chase after Squall then..... I do not see that as love after all.... like in the common love stories and movies.... when popular person got attracted to someone cool and calm who ignore him/her existence.

Like Squall says.... Quistis is confusing. He always doesn't not know how to deal with her. Because she is too mature and perfect for her AGE since kid until 18 years old.
Just like Tifa and Cloud. In their childhood, Cloud considered Tifa Cs as immature kids as a result.... Cloud could not befriend with them because no one knew how to deal with him, the mature kid :D.

Maybe only Seifer (with his bravery) could deal with her but since they have different VISION and ATTITUDE, it won't work for them to love each other...... they can become good friend but not couple.

Mittopotahis
01-03-2005, 12:40 PM
Quifer im not sure of but Quorg...Im still not over it...
ewwwwwww

Quistis Trepe
01-05-2005, 04:09 PM
It's been covered, but why does Quistis need a guy? Why does everyone have to end off with a significant other who they may or may not be with for the rest of their life? Quistis is fine alone, as is Seifer. You don't need to pair them up just because they were alone at the end of the game. Aren't friends as important a factor as significant other? I beleive so.
Also, I really prefer Quistis' character over Rinoa's. I don't know if it's because she's more like me, less like me, or just because she pulls off a realistic emotional teen, but she's great.
I also like Seifer, but I've always got a thing for the badasses with deep issues they don't want to show. It's in his Zodiac sign... which one is it... Capricorn? I don't remember, Caps don't like to share feelings. I always have a liking for those characters.

With that said, I really like Seiftis. I don't need it all the time, and can go a fanfic or two without it. But if I were to pair either up with anyone it'd be those two together, or with an original character that I hate making! XP (I don't like mary sues and OCs (unless it's a very minor char, or villain), so why should I make any?)
No one really said the couple had to work out or anything. I've seen it millions of times on Buffy... Ooh, it's not quite the same but Wesley and Cordelia! They were all attracted too eachother, but once the relationship became physical they realized it wouldn't work.

Also, if Seifer and Quistis can't work out... I really have to wonder how Squall and Rinoa do it.


I am now convinced that seifer and rinoa did have a serious relationship

I was never convinced this, after the short convorsation Quistis had with Rinoa about Seifer.

Q: "Your boyfriend?"
R: "I don't know."

If they had a serious relationship... wouldn't she know if it was more? Unless, of course, you don't mean a BF/GF relationship and just a strong friendship. One that only lasted one summer...
I don't know about the rest of you, but a friend or even boyfriend I have for that short of a time isn't very significant in my life.