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§håd0w
10-12-2003, 02:00 PM
Ancient stuff my man. If you read Secrets of the Samurai, on page 260 it explains everything. Whether or not it is in the saya, also determine what it is. But watch the trailer agian, and then watch the FMV at Kalm, the way he's holding it is different. There's also a pic of him in the case, right where disc 3 is.

Kindo
10-12-2003, 02:43 PM
Alright, alright... I'm keeping myself outta this before I get dizzy.

twobitmage
10-12-2003, 08:50 PM
That would be a TACHI friend.

Taichi(chuan) is a chinese martial art that translates into grand ultimate fist

I sure hope they dont spell it like that in your book...

ShadyMilkman
10-12-2003, 08:52 PM
Does it really matter? All the matters is that he's holding it wrong. Big deal. $#!T happens. Can we move on now?

twobitmage
10-12-2003, 09:14 PM
about as much difference if I said *uckwheat instead of buckwheat

§håd0w
10-12-2003, 11:15 PM
OK, so I made a typo. That wasn't the point though, I was pointing out that his balde is facing the wrong direction.

Big D
10-13-2003, 03:48 AM
Well, Sephiroth was the world's greatest soldier; it's plausible that he's skilled at using his sword in both ways. He's also probably ambidextrous, which'd explain him using a different hand to hold his sword from time to tim.

Nakor TheBlue Rider
10-13-2003, 02:35 PM
Maybey he trianed in a new style since cloud kicked his @$$ when he used the other style. :D

§håd0w
10-14-2003, 12:55 AM
That's exactly why he's my hero :D

twobitmage
10-14-2003, 07:36 AM
I hate to get factual but it may be interesting to note that A sword style called Niten ichi ryu teaches a practitioner to swing a sword with one hand, and either hand for that matter (verstitility seizes the day i guess)

anyway...Why are we comparing sword styles and left vs. right handedness anyway? I kind of doubt that even square-enix is that meticulous

§håd0w
10-14-2003, 10:45 PM
Yeah, I knew about Niten Ichi Ryu. At my Tae Kwon Do, since I am the sword master, I teach that to my advanced class. And I also say once they can control my sword as well as I do with both hands, then they have mastered that art. But I'm sure someone at Square is aware of some swordsmanship and martial arts.

Cloudane
10-14-2003, 11:36 PM
And now for something completely different: Another theory about the cloaked guy in the chair...

It's the Evil Dragon King ;)

ShadyMilkman
10-14-2003, 11:39 PM
No, no, no, It's like, so totally and OBVIOUSLY the lil girl with the Dolphin!!!! :D

§håd0w
10-14-2003, 11:43 PM
Oh man. It makes perfect sense now.

*looks around*

Cloudane
10-14-2003, 11:50 PM
Gah, Priscilla, of course :p

Come to think of it, doesn't it look like the wheelchair type guy you meet in the train graveyard and steal aeris's second weapon from *looks again* or is that cloak a tonberry's :boggle:

ShadyMilkman
10-14-2003, 11:52 PM
I thought that thing was a chariot... I might have to play again.

Cloudane
10-14-2003, 11:53 PM
Yeah it was a chariot I think.

Good excuse to play again though :D

Advent Child
10-16-2003, 02:31 AM
Originally posted by twobitmage
anyway...Why are we comparing sword styles and left vs. right handedness anyway? I kind of doubt that even square-enix is that meticulous
he's right.

AND STOP PICKING AT THE MOVIE! You're trying to spoil the story before it's even WRITTEN! STOP IT!

Kazuma
10-16-2003, 09:51 PM
But really, Hmmm maybe it is Barrets daughter and she reminds Sephiroth so much of Aeris that he puts that cloak over her *Shrug* I DUNNO!!!

Kazuma
10-16-2003, 09:56 PM
Wait!! I got a even better idea....I think the one wrapped into the white cloak is the real Sephiroth and the one fighting Cloud is one of his Copies!! Oooh thats a good idea there :)

§håd0w
10-16-2003, 10:51 PM
That's what I origianally thought.


he's right.

Are you saying twobitmage was right about needing to stop? Or that Sephiroth is right handed? Last thing on that topic, I swear.

Advent Child
10-17-2003, 02:22 AM
I think ti was pretty obvious that I was talking about niether of those. He was right in saying what I quoted. They aren't going to make sure he uses the same fighting style in the game as in the movie.

and *I*m right about needing to stop!

Origin
10-17-2003, 03:32 AM
That's the most rediculous thing I've ever heard! (no offense) What does it matter how we would classify Sephiroths sword?
Sephiroth lives in another world where they certainly don't use our rules for everything.

eternalshiva
10-17-2003, 10:08 AM
I actually have a version of the trailer where you can hear the music, the voices and its subbed but I don't have enough bandwidth to put it up and the page I took it from has been taken down... its on my computer... and the images are CRYSTAL CLEAR >.< I have a zip format id someone can take 18.1 KB in their e-mail or if someone wants to host it?

Avalon
10-17-2003, 10:44 AM
Uh...i kinda hate to end all this but...theres tons of screenshots on http://ff7-2.com/?id=images1 now noone can doubt the coming of the movie....which may be crap...the characters having voices might be weird...plus i agree that cloud looks crap and should die in a pit of crabs...preferably his own...and he looks oddly camp...square confuses me sometimes

eternalshiva
10-17-2003, 11:16 AM
err.. we know that ... that's what we've been discussing for 10 pages now >.< heh looks like someone skipped all the rants!

*huggles*

§håd0w
10-17-2003, 09:05 PM
Originally posted by Advent Child
I think ti was pretty obvious that I was talking about niether of those. He was right in saying what I quoted. They aren't going to make sure he uses the same fighting style in the game as in the movie.

and *I*m right about needing to stop!

Ok, it's over now. Just wanted to know.

muchacho
10-18-2003, 01:20 AM
i think its going to be cool, but its a movie and its only an hour long. it looks great. the graphics are awesome. but i dont like it how everyone has black under thier eyes like they havnt sleept in about 4 days

§håd0w
10-18-2003, 02:26 AM
Lol. I had those marks during my alcoholic days. But now I'm a sober man

Avalon
10-18-2003, 05:20 PM
hmm...well yeah...i read the first page or 2 then got bored and skipped loads...my bad i guess...still dont know if it ll do well tho...is it even being released in the US and Europe....i dunno?

§håd0w
10-18-2003, 09:57 PM
More than likely it will, considering it sold over 13 million. The FFX one didn't just because... well... FFX was bad.

twobitmage
10-19-2003, 05:13 AM
Originally posted by masamune1287
More than likely it will, considering it sold over 13 million. The FFX one didn't just because... well... FFX was bad.


good god im tired of hearing that :cry:

Female Ryuichi
10-19-2003, 12:34 PM
*Just watched the first trailer*
Dude...that was so one winged angel in the background.

And Sephy still looks camp. :o

§håd0w
10-19-2003, 02:45 PM
Originally posted by twobitmage
good god im tired of hearing that :cry:

Oh but it's true.

Erdrick the Hero
10-19-2003, 04:02 PM
i just looked at the poster pic that is on the home page for EoFF, not the forum homepage. up at the top you can clearly see a picture of sephiroth and to the left is a big red "vs." i have seen the picture before and it was cloud on the other side of that vs.

now, i am not sure if that is from FF7 that picture or if it is a new and upcoming picture. just wanting to throw that out there to piss some people off, i mean, spark a new debate

Zach
10-21-2003, 12:34 AM
id rather it be a game, the other movie sucked and why would they try to make another when most likely the same results would spring up. i think a game would be more fun and better overall

§håd0w
10-21-2003, 01:34 AM
Well FFVII was SOOOOOO much better than FFX.

Advent Child
10-21-2003, 02:15 AM
Originally posted by masamune1287
Well FFVII was SOOOOOO much better than FFX.
I love how that has something to do with the movie thread. *mod-whores*

§håd0w
10-21-2003, 09:09 PM
Originally posted by Advent Child
I love how that has something to do with the movie thread. *mod-whores*

I'm sure I could find a post you made that had nothing to do with anything. *mod-whores the mod-whore*

Ariel
10-22-2003, 06:17 AM
Hrmm... well... I don't have much of a verdict on this yet. I'll wait and see how it turns out, if it makes its way Down Under.

It was pretty disappointing to hear that the sequel was going to be a movie, though. No battles? No mini games? No sidequests? 50+ hours of gaming and storyline crammed into a 90 minute movie? It's great that there's going to be some resolution of some sort, though.

eternalshiva
10-22-2003, 11:36 AM
http://www.ff7-2.com/ They posted the movie I submitted the other day *the one with the translation* and you can hear the words and the music.

§håd0w
10-22-2003, 10:17 PM
Word :beer:

Angel_Reaper
10-23-2003, 09:53 PM
YESSS!!!!!!! Drinks is on the house. :D

Evil_Cloud
10-26-2003, 07:48 PM
hehe, i havent been on these forums in like 2 months, and damn has alot of crap been going on without me knowing it!!

anyways, after nearly dying of complete and utter happiness, i watched the trailer. most u of guys say the person in the wheelchair is jenova or sephy or even aeris. all good hypotheses, but when i watched it, i thought the person in the wheel chair was dead. i mean he/she didnt move, and has a veil covering the body. u never kno, maybe the Mystery Man has some wicked fascination with Sephiroth and keeps his corpse as a shrine. from my extensive knowledge of FF7, and all the freaky shit that took place in it, i think that is a perfectly acceptable thought.

hehe, then again, i dont know. aww who cares FINAL FANTASY 7 LIVES ON!!!! WOOHOO!!!

Shlup
10-26-2003, 10:57 PM
I didn't know it was going straight to DVD. Good, that means I can just download a DVD-rip fansub a week after it comes out. *whistles*

Advent Child
10-27-2003, 11:38 PM
Originally posted by masamune1287
I'm sure I could find a post you made that had nothing to do with anything. *mod-whores the mod-whore*
I recieved a VERY low-quality haircut today.

§håd0w
10-29-2003, 01:00 AM
Originally posted by Advent Child
I recieved a VERY low-quality haircut today.

I believe you're making fun of me... That's not very nice.

ShadyMilkman
10-29-2003, 03:08 AM
Don't be hatin' on Phillip? You mess with the Phil I M P, you messin wit me!! And I'm intimidating! Six foot, one thirty mutha humpa! ...... I still despise the idea of this whole thing. Imagine, every thought and shred of our imaginations.... ripped and destroyed in the name of extra money for Square. I don't like it. Ruining our dreams and its just wrong man.

Evil_Cloud
10-29-2003, 03:29 AM
its not gonna destroy your dreams if u dont watch it. i personally am interested to see what has happened in the following 2 years, its the closure i need in the story after not knowing what Holy and The Life Stream did to Meteor. very intrigued, i am.

Angel_Reaper
10-29-2003, 03:43 AM
Originally posted by Advent Child
I recieved a VERY low-quality haircut today.



Originally posted by masamune1287
I believe you're making fun of me... That's not very nice.

I come back here and find out someone is making fun of one of my friends on here. Dont make fun of Phillip :mad2: That upsets me quite ALOT!! *slams fist on table* :mad2: :mad2:




I still want to see it though. just to see if its better then the first one. First was not good to me. :(

§håd0w
10-30-2003, 10:42 PM
originally posted by ShadyMilkman
Don't be hatin' on Phillip? You mess with the Phil I M P, you messin wit me!! And I'm intimidating! Six foot, one thirty mutha humpa! ......


Originally posted by Angel_Reaper
I come back here and find out someone is making fun of one of my friends on here. Dont make fun of Phillip :mad2: That upsets me quite ALOT!! *slams fist on table* :mad2: :mad2:

Aww... They came through for me :love:

Angel_Reaper
10-31-2003, 01:44 AM
It shows how much we love ya. ;) :love: :D

Avalon
11-01-2003, 07:05 PM
Its raining...there are fireworks...and im scared:boohoo: ....help...

ShadyMilkman
11-01-2003, 10:18 PM
Moon-Exit-Terra-Health_Lewd-Art-Blinks

K-chan
11-04-2003, 09:24 PM
... ...i think this is getting a little off topic...

Advent Child
11-04-2003, 10:26 PM
Originally posted by Angel_Reaper
I come back here and find out someone is making fun of one of my friends on here. Dont make fun of Phillip :mad2: That upsets me quite ALOT!! *slams fist on table* :mad2: :mad2:
That's fascinating. *cares*

Seriously though it annoys me when people start FFVII vs *insert game here* arguements because it's all your opinion.

Big D
11-05-2003, 01:23 AM
Originally posted by Advent Child
That's fascinating. *cares*

Seriously though it annoys me when people start FFVII vs *insert game here* arguements because it's all your opinion. Indeed. Just because this thread is labelled "important", that doesn't mean it'll stay open if people abuse it just to flame or spam the place up. You don't need to post in this thread all the time, just when you've got something relevant to say.

Something to do with Advent Children, for instance.
Like the release dates. According to Final Fantasy Online, it'll be released in Japan in the first quarter of next year, in the US on the 10th of July, and in Europe sometime in the fourth quarter.
Not too long to wait, now is it?:D

Advent Child
11-05-2003, 02:18 AM
I heard 3rd quarter in japan. I don't know from where though.

And I geuss I'll try and stay on topic.

Cloudane
11-06-2003, 12:36 AM
and in Europe sometime in the fourth quarter

Why am I not surprised :(

*cries*

UNBREAKABLE
11-06-2003, 03:30 PM
wow i honestly cannot wait for this movie i mean everything i read or hear about this movie seems to make me wanna yell to the top of my voice, i can't wait...although i wish it was a game :), but hey whos complaining right.

sephiroth21
11-09-2003, 11:31 PM
all i can say is wach the trailer and try not to piss your pants

:chop:

one_winged_angel
12-01-2003, 03:16 AM
Cool, I just read about it in 'newtype USA' (an awesome anime magazine with a couple of games thrown in) and it looks pretty damn sweeeeeeet.

Gene Ohm
12-04-2003, 12:45 PM
i been in the dark about this for so long i didnt even know what its subtitle was til last weekend - its all ok if you got the internet but square are gonna have to get off there asses too if they wanna let anyone who isnt already an ff addict or even who simply dosent have that much internet know about it

my mates got clips of a previewy thing shown at the tokyo gameshow that look quite good but is it me of do cloud and sephiroth look... wrong.. Oo

227

§håd0w
12-04-2003, 06:47 PM
Well, we haven't proved if the preson Cloud is fighting is Sephiroth yet, but I thought the scene of him at Niblehiem looked off. Cloud looked good, I thought they did a good job of him.

tm364
12-04-2003, 11:12 PM
Originally posted by Loony BoB
Maybe Sephiroth didn't really die, but actually got his hair cut short by Cloud in the final battle. It'd all make so much sense.

Actually Sephiroth was absorbed into the Lifestream, he wasn't killed. So technically he could still come into another body. He could've absorbed the body of a clone (or someone else *cough* main character *cough*). But the cloaked person in the trailer has got me, so many different selections,

Spoiler Alert!!!

Lucrecia, Jenova, Hojo, Sephiroth himself, Aeris, blah, blah, blah, etc.

§håd0w
12-05-2003, 01:30 PM
I'm pretty sure Loony BoB was being sarcastic there... But the cloaked perosn still has me fooled as well. I've got an idea of everyone but him/her.

Daydrius
12-07-2003, 12:37 AM
Do you know what would be really weird? If sephy took over Kefka's body, who somehow came back, or used the Chrono cross to go from a dimension from when he destroyed the world to FFVII's dimension...TOO MANY CROSSOVERS.


All they need to do is NOT BUTCHER THE CHARACTERS

make Sephy look better

put Jenova + music in there

put vincent, and yuffie in there

stick the Turks in there

put in the one winged angle theme

have some insane Kefka-like guy in there

and stick in a moogle or two

The recipie for...well, I don't exactly know what...All I really know is that KEFKA RULEZ

§håd0w
12-07-2003, 02:02 PM
There was the One Winged Angel in the trailer, it'll probably be in the movie as well.

As for Kefka, Sephiroth could smite him so quickly... damn 8 bit villain.

Daydrius
12-07-2003, 04:25 PM
I could not possibly, in a million years...disagree more:

Kefka: Fallen one

Sephiroth: heals himself (but not completely, cause the max is 9999)

Kefka: *Laughs* Does LoJ on Sephy's pretty boy ass

Sephy: SMITTEN

HURRAY FOR SMITING

Daedra
12-07-2003, 04:43 PM
Another Version :

Sephiroth : SuperNova

Kafka : Heals himself (but not completely... )

Sephiroth : Heartless Angel, with a cold smile

Kefka : SMITTEN

Sephiroth RuLeZ !

Daydrius
12-07-2003, 05:53 PM
Sephiroth: stabs Aeris

Kefka: uses Light of Judgement on the city of ancients cause he feels like it

Sephy = crispy
Cloud = Crispy
Everyone else = extra crispy
Aeris = even more dead

KEFKA PWNZ ALL

ANother version

Sephy: Super nova

Kefka: *laughs* uses LoJ

Sephy = godd ol' toast


KEFKA PWNZ EVEN MORE

Edit: I know the sephy in the city of the ancients isn't really him

Sephy: sleeps in North crater(or whatever you call it)

Kefka: LoJs the North Crater

Sephy + Weapons = PWNDZORS

GO KEFKA

one_winged_angel
12-07-2003, 07:45 PM
But Kefka wouldn't get close because sephy would just use his (no jokes) huge sword, the unbeatable sword of protection (why sephy has a sword of protection god knows) and stabs Kefka from a mile away before he even thinks of using any attacks

Daydrius
12-08-2003, 01:29 AM
Kefka has masive amounts of magic...which is very likely to be better then Sephy's.

Kefka could hit Sephy from 2 miles away...or, when Sephy slashes, Kefka could just warp out of the way

GaV
12-08-2003, 04:58 PM
Sephi takes over Aeris's body :p
j/k :)

§håd0w
12-08-2003, 09:39 PM
Daydrius... If you prefer Sephiroth over Kefka, then why do you have Seph stuff all in your sig???


Check and mate

Juggla
12-15-2003, 10:05 PM
Well im not a big fan of any media being transformed into a movie as it never seems to stand up. I didnt like the spirits within movie and if they wreck the beautiful thing that is FF7 im sure Vivi will have to show them whats what!

blitzballstar01
12-15-2003, 10:20 PM
im pretty sure that ffvii advent children will not be at all like the spirits within. ive seen actuall screen shots and even a trailor for it and it looks so awesome. and since this has the same characters and all, im sure that we'll be able to relate to it more as a final fantasy, unlike SW, where they were all new characters and it just seemed like "just some movie"

Rostum
12-17-2003, 06:08 AM
I just hope we find out what really happened to Rufus, you never know he may have made a quick sneaky escape.

Rufus is awesome and should be in Advent Children.

GaV
12-17-2003, 06:45 PM
i am pretty sure he died, i don't see how he could have a serious role in advent children, but hey who knows what those crazy people at square enix may come up with :)

ChibiInuYasha
12-17-2003, 10:31 PM
Everyone Shut Up! I found Vincent and Barret! :tongue:

one_winged_angel
12-17-2003, 10:34 PM
Kefka has masive amounts of magic...which is very likely to be better then Sephy's.

*cough* supernova *cough*.......................................... pwned...

And in reguards to chibinuyasha's pictures, I don't really know what made me think of this but it kinda reminds me of final fantasy 8 more, the magic style, the surroundings and barrets mechanical arm etc. I hope im not the only one to notice this.

Erdrick the Hero
12-19-2003, 04:27 PM
oooo... so more characters are released... it looks like cloud is fighting vincent in that picture. Barret looks like he has found a hand replacement for his gun btw. oh the possiblities

Wrexsoul
12-20-2003, 03:22 PM
Looks like he got cornrows, too. :D

Friggin' awesome. I'm all excited again.

Female Ryuichi
12-21-2003, 05:02 PM
It's VINCENT! :love: Ahhh.....Vincent Valentine. :love:

DocFrance
12-21-2003, 09:35 PM
I don't see Vincent at all. I see Cloud, Barrett, the guy whom we presume to be Sephiroth, and some guy that looks nothing like Vincent.

JMcConnor
12-21-2003, 11:54 PM
In the picture in the bottom right hand corner...

who is Cloud standing over?

*looks over*

*sees the familiar shaped building*

*sees Cloud standing in the water over someone*

*giggles self to death*

DocFrance
12-22-2003, 04:41 AM
No, seriously. What the hell are you guys talking about with Vincent?

TheAbominatrix
12-22-2003, 04:44 AM
Look harder.

Liquid Glass
12-22-2003, 05:03 AM
Awesome. JMcConnor looks to me like the city of ancients where they layed Aeris to her final resting place. Maybe...Maybe...
(this is gonna piss of some people probably.)

TheAbominatrix
12-22-2003, 05:05 AM
That scene is clearly a flashback, and the girl is clearly Aeris, and I'm pretty sure JMcConnor knew this.

Liquid Glass
12-22-2003, 05:35 AM
Yeah, I didn't really think of that. Then again, Square-Enix didn't say anything, who knows?

TheAbominatrix
12-22-2003, 05:54 AM
What else could it be? What, she comes back to life in AC, then dies again, so Cloud drops her in the water again? Cloud goes and pulls her 2 year old, decomposed, fish-eaten corpse from the water?

Liquid Glass
12-22-2003, 06:06 AM
Whenever I thought they put her in the water I thought it would keep her from decomposing somehow. It could be because of the crappy water effects though. Or maybe something happens that restores her and hes pulling her out, I don't know.

Thats just my thought.

TheAbominatrix
12-22-2003, 06:11 AM
Things decompose in water. She'd be bloated within a day, fish would have eaten her eyes within that time, and after a period of two years, her bones would be completly picked clean.

Why would he pull her out exactly like he dropped her in? If something incredibly lame like her being resurrected happening, she'd probably come out on her own. With the position he's in, he'd be lifting her out... she dropped a long way down, and unless she floated to the top, it's doubtful he'd be able to lift her up that way.

Not to mention his outfit clearly lacks the new stuff he's wearing for AC.

DocFrance
12-23-2003, 06:09 AM
Originally posted by TheAbominatrix
Look harder. Well, that could be Vincent, but it could just as easily be someone else. Until I see corroborating evidence that it's indeed Vincent, I ain't biting.

TheAbominatrix
12-24-2003, 04:39 AM
It's the person that look like Vincent, hence that's who everyone was refering to. I'm not getting into semantics as to whether it is him or not, cause frankly I really dont care.

twobitmage
12-24-2003, 06:28 PM
http://www.adventchildren.net/ff7ac/media/scans.htm

did you guys see the second trailer yet?

The second one is the best quality supposedly

edit:that is...the second one on that SITE...the trailer itself is pretty crappy quality since it was shot at a bad angle

zacks_clone
12-26-2003, 07:53 PM
it looks like aeris.maybe a flashback.as far as vince goes,they did announce that vince was in one of the screanshots.other then the one you have shown(though...i can hardly tell WHO it is),i dont really see any others of him

Cloudane
12-29-2003, 03:05 AM
The figure has pointy shoes. Just like the rendered version of Vincent (from the PC setup screens, among other things)

Yup, that's Vincent.

On that site it's also said that there will be two females between 14 and 25 years old. Yuffie and Tifa, if you ask me... I think Aeris remains dead. Particularly when they mention another trailer translation "was the way I died.. a good way?" - but that means her consciousness is there still?

Female Ryuichi
12-29-2003, 11:42 AM
Originally posted by Cloudane
The figure has pointy shoes. Just like the rendered version of Vincent (from the PC setup screens, among other things)

Yup, that's Vincent.



Hurrah! I knew it was <3

DocFrance
12-29-2003, 01:44 PM
There's still no definitive evidence that it is in fact Vincent other than "it sort of looks like him." I remain skeptical.

_mellini
12-31-2003, 01:09 AM
the atmosphere, cape and pointy shoes in that one pic do look like vincent, but i dont know ... the bottom right pic does say "aeris?!" but i agree it's just a flashback, cos yah, she would have decomposed, unless they pull a lame "but it's magic-Ancient-water, man!!" on us ;-) :rolleyes2

Cloudane
12-31-2003, 02:07 AM
She's been dead for years now, it's not far off a decade... get over it! (I'm not referring to anyone in particular here, just the general 'Aeris might be alive' mentality that's been dug up recently)

Two female characters are appreantly slated to appear, (they say between 14 and 25, not sure why... Yuffie would be older than 14 by then) - I doubt Tifa is dead and Aeris is resurrected :p

But it's early days. They've already stated that most (if not all) of the trailer... at least the first one... is for promotional use only and will probably *not* be included in the final movie.

GaV
12-31-2003, 04:02 PM
lol i am pretty sure vincent is the figure infront of the full moon with a cape. Infact i am almost positive.

§håd0w
12-31-2003, 06:46 PM
Where's the trailer with "Vincent" or whoever the hell you all are refering to? I've seen all of them but this one, can someone give me a direct link?

DocFrance
12-31-2003, 07:07 PM
I'm going to laugh at you all when it turns out it's not really Vincent.

§håd0w
12-31-2003, 07:49 PM
And since Vincent was optional, I wouldn't be surprised if they left him out. Notice how he never appeared in any FMVs? Same with Tidus, never spoke his name, and even in FFX-2 they never spoke his name, nor gave him a name in the subtitles.


I'm gonna laugh as well...

zacks_clone
12-31-2003, 10:04 PM
i thought it was annonced that in one of the screanshots we have seen so far it WAS vincent.(( check the EOFF main page).i'll surf around abit more and see if I cant find out some other sources.But I must agree...though I'd like very much to see vincent in the movie,he was an optinal charachter.

GaV
01-01-2004, 05:55 PM
lol i think square announced vincent is 1 of the figures in the pics.

TheAbominatrix
01-01-2004, 08:28 PM
Square didnt announce it as such, but a few magazines have already said it was him. I think it's pretty obvious that he is, unless it's someone with long hair wearing Vincent's clothing.

Savannah
01-05-2004, 04:03 AM
Originally posted by ChibInuYasha
Everyone Shut Up! I found Vincent and Barret! :tongue:

Whoa. I didn't realize how absolutely cool this was until I saw this pic. Does anyone else think it looks kind of Underworldish, by the way? Much darker and sinister than the original FFVII, anyway.

I wonder who that guy in the top left corner is, fighting Cloud. :love:

And is that Tifa?

And Barret looks great!

And that motorcycle is badass.

*gets all belatedly excited*

TheAbominatrix
01-05-2004, 04:39 AM
Is what Tifa? I couldnt see anyone lookin like her, unfortunatly.

Savannah
01-05-2004, 08:22 AM
The only girl in the Vincent/Barret/Cloud-in-goggles poster-- her hair looks too light to be Tifa...

TheAbominatrix
01-05-2004, 08:29 AM
There's a girl in there? Honestly, I looked just now and didnt see anyone 'cept Aeris in her death scene. Of course, the silver haired men kinda look girly...

one_winged_angel
01-05-2004, 02:34 PM
wheres the girl? I don't see anything that is clearly visible as a girl other than aeris going for a dip in the pond.

Cloudane
01-09-2004, 12:27 AM
Silver haired girly men..

I hope Kuja doesn't make it across :p

§håd0w
01-09-2004, 12:59 PM
Hey!!! Kuja was the man. Not just anyone can walk around in a purple thong like that.

katana
01-10-2004, 12:08 AM
Aeris? Where? Anyway, I think that the guy fighting cloud wasnt vincent. Hairs too short. I think its a turk.

TheAbominatrix
01-10-2004, 12:13 AM
Aeris is at the lower right hand corner, its her death scene. Vincent is the shadowy figure at the bottom of the page, not the silver haired guy.

§håd0w
01-10-2004, 03:36 PM
And I'm still confused

sephiroth21
01-10-2004, 05:21 PM
some just post a attached file of the pic

katana
01-11-2004, 12:49 AM
Well no $#!+ thats Aeris. I thought you meant there was another clear picture because someone said it was Tifa and someone else argued her hair was too light, but how can you tell if it's that far away? And I geuss I was right about my first geuss then, that Vincent was the one jumping. But is the silver hair guy confirmed?

Savannah
01-13-2004, 04:08 AM
Hm, now that I look at it again, maybe those aren't pictures of girls. I meant the pic just below the one in the top left corner, just under the silver-haired guy. Maybe it's another silver-haired guy, though, instead of a girl. The other one I was speaking of was the one just below the column of Cloud and Barret, on the far left. I see now that it's probably Cloud, though.

TheAbominatrix
01-13-2004, 04:36 AM
Originally posted by katana
Well no $#!+ thats Aeris. I thought you meant there was another clear picture because someone said it was Tifa and someone else argued her hair was too light, but how can you tell if it's that far away? And I geuss I was right about my first geuss then, that Vincent was the one jumping. But is the silver hair guy confirmed?

Then dont ask a stupid question, and dont be rude when someone answers it. When you say 'Aeris, where?' it implies that you cant see her at all. The silver haired guys were confirmed, just go to adventchildren.net and read it there.

katana
01-19-2004, 04:00 AM
Woah. Bottom left looks like Shiva. And it looks like CLoud is whacking her with his sword.:choc:

GaV
01-19-2004, 03:45 PM
yeah i thought it was shiva as well, but no one had commented on it.

TheAbominatrix
01-20-2004, 12:01 AM
It does look a bit like Shiva, but it's just one of the silver-haired guys. I've read the translated scans for it.

fesser
02-01-2004, 02:59 AM
you guy talkign about advent children for the DVD lol its a movie, and i seen every 5 tailer there is, the wheelchair guy is hojo to let u know

TheAbominatrix
02-01-2004, 09:41 AM
Oh good, cause we all thought it was a game on a DVD! [/sarcasm].

And I'm so glad you've managed to find confirmation for a fact no one else can find confirmation for.

TheLast1
02-01-2004, 03:38 PM
And no i am not happy about the movie, well i am happy about that too, but i am just so glad i finally read all posts on this topic, after 2 hours and 45 minutes and 37...38...39...etc seconds, I'm done. I have various replies to some of the things said here, but i am not gonna bother to quote anything, because i have a slow internet, only 16 kbps so sorry for that.

Now first regarding square enix , I completely agree that after they merged the games they have been producing have started to suck, plus TSW sucked as well, for some reason they never make them long enough!, is it that hard to make it a half hour longer then just go from a setting to climax in like 20 minutes. but thats that. Enix does suck! But what I really dont get with some of you people, and i know i'll get a few of you unhappy with this... is that you are saying the slutty look to ffx-II is bad, or that square is using sex to sell games. That kind of tyhing makes me mad, now i have come to 4 conclusions for the people that say sex and games dont mix.

a) you're either too young
b) you're either too old
c) you're one of those people who belives in no sex before mariaage religious crap. ( i am a catholic but not to that extent.)
d) you are a mix of all of the above.

I was just saying that games hsould have more sexual content, and i know some unhappy moms would be suing square so i know it is not reralistic, but then think about it, the little fact that ff7 had swearing in it did not bother any1, even though for 5 years ago for a game to have swearing was unlikely, hence the rating for games were made, if you have a mom who dont want you to play games like this, read the rating and if it says mild sexual content then dont get it. They wont loose too much money cause while they will loose old fans they will get new ones. The japanese have dating sims and hentai anime and all that for kids at 16, and has that done anything to them, hell no! they just mature more rapidly than us. And produce amazing anime and video games.So there is nothing wrong with having sexual content in a game, it just makes it more realistic and mature.

Now for the ff7 movie, i am looking forward to it and so are a couple of my friends, i havent been able to watch any of the trailers because of my slow internet connection, but i wouldn't be to disapointed if sephy was in it. Aries would be bizzare but then again, no matter how much the movie sux it wont change my opinion of the game, but if the movie is good ill think of the game even better. About the sword being as thin as paper, it just shows how sharp and well made it is, and that it could slice through anything.

The guy in the wheelchair could be hojo just as well as anybody else, i really dont care until i see the movie, it is probably not as good and not as bad as we say it is.

And one more thing, somebody was dissing kuja here,:mad2:

DONT DISS KUJA!, He just has a different fassion style then yours!

§håd0w
02-01-2004, 05:18 PM
Originally posted by fesser
you guy talkign about advent children for the DVD lol its a movie, and i seen every 5 tailer there is, the wheelchair guy is hojo to let u know

How the hell can it be Hojo, when Hojo was killed wen you raided Midgar for the second time? Answer me that and I will show you a blue dog!


Bam!

zacks_clone
02-01-2004, 05:50 PM
.unmaked spoilers.and if your reading this thread and you havent completed the game,im sure youv had spoilers enough.




its like saying 'lets revive aeris!'.Bah,it isnt Hojo,it isnt Rufus.Hoja was killed.Dead.D-E-A-D!Cloud and company made sure of that,because they did that by hand.Im sure they would have kept at him if he wasnt dead!

course,there are the jenova cells in him now...but if Jenova died,so didnt Hojo,eh?

And it aint rufus cause no one coulda survived that attack by weapon

§håd0w
02-02-2004, 08:55 PM
But didn't Cloud have Jenova cells as well? So that can't be the case.

But it's not Hojo...

Bam!

GaV
02-02-2004, 11:38 PM
lol if its Hojo or Rufus in the chair then i think it will suck. I dont think square enix are that stupid, theres just not a decent story if that is the case.

steveo
02-03-2004, 09:52 AM
its true i have bought a psm2 magazine and its says that there is to be a but it will only be an hour long!

TheAbominatrix
02-03-2004, 09:56 AM
As stated in this thread at least 100 times already.

§håd0w
02-04-2004, 01:21 AM
Originally posted by TheAbominatrix
As stated in this thread at least 100 times already.

Smack down!!!



Bam!!!

Erdrick the Hero
02-07-2004, 07:28 AM
are you emirol or something from the food network or something?

Anyway, if someone has proof of who the guy in the wheelchair that would be great, cuz just sayng flat out that the WCG is so and so doesn't really help the cause, just makes yo more annoyed at the person. so yeah

TheAbominatrix
02-07-2004, 10:20 AM
No one has any proof, that guy is just rumor-mongering. Square has released no details about the wheelchair guy.

§håd0w
02-07-2004, 12:42 PM
Originally posted by Erdrick the Hero
are you emirol or something from the food network or something?


I am now...

Bam!!!

Big D
02-08-2004, 01:03 AM
Originally posted by steveo
its true i have bought a psm2 magazine and its says that there is to be a but it will only be an hour long! Actually, it's been announced that the movie will be at least 80 minutes long. It's probably in this thread somewhere, but I can't be bothered looking :p

Masamune1287, how many times do you need to be told to stop spamming?

zacks_clone
02-08-2004, 01:53 AM
really?oh,good.that should make it a semi-decent story then(so we all shall hope!)

§håd0w
02-08-2004, 02:34 PM
80 minutes just doesn't seem like enough time to develop a decent plot. I don't think it will live up to the game, but it'll still be good.

Big D
02-09-2004, 10:11 AM
Many movies are barely an hour and a half long, but I agree that Advent Children's (uncomfirmed) 80 minutes may seem fleeting compared to the game. Ah well, it's not like they can make a twenty-hour movie and expect it to sell.

TheAbominatrix
02-09-2004, 10:33 AM
But how much of the game was story, and how much was gameplay (sidequests, battles, exploring, and reading all that stuff)? 80 minutes seems plenty, and they dont have to start from scratch and establish new characters like most movies. It's a sequel, so it doesnt need as much backstory. The game already established that.

§håd0w
02-10-2004, 12:00 AM
Speaking of which, has anything about the plot been released yet? I haven't read about 9 of these pages, so I'm not aware.

steveo
02-10-2004, 12:04 AM
well in my magazine it said that there was a deadly virus around the planet

§håd0w
02-10-2004, 09:56 PM
Hmm, sounds like a Resident Evil spoof.

TheAbominatrix
02-11-2004, 10:34 AM
That's the Star Scar Syndrome, and all plot information is, again, at www.adventchildren.net

Cloudane
02-12-2004, 01:06 AM
One of the first fansites said the Japanese word for 'star' and 'planet' is the same... any truth to this?

If so, surely it'd make more sense as "Planet Scar Syndrome", given that The Planet (this was its official name I believe?) was scarred on the North Pole by Jenova some 5000-years-or-whatever-time ago and the planet and/or Jenova are involved with the disease.

Apart from that it'd also support my theory that the 'mystery man' is the supposedly indestructable Jenova (who, according to the archives at the snowy town near the crater, first appeared as a male), and has inflicted the disease. Following from this, the other people who look similar to the guy would be 'clones', and the story would be about finding a way to permenantly defeat Jenova... I guess similar in a way to FFX/Sin.

Kirobaito
02-12-2004, 10:30 PM
I don't know if there's any truth to that, Cloudane, but it really sounds good.

Squall121386
02-13-2004, 09:12 PM
if you guys haven't seen movie clips of it then check is site out http://www.adventchildren.net/ff7ac/media/movies.htm it has some pretty good information on FF7: Advent Children.

zacks_clone
02-15-2004, 08:26 PM
Cloudane,it does make alot of sense.I'll have to try and find out if those two words are the same...And,i mean,who knows what was in the creater sephiroths body was sealed in.Weapon came out of it,and when the barrier broke,who knows what else could have seeped into the ground.

§håd0w
02-15-2004, 08:44 PM
Well Weapon was also made by the planet in case something drastic (i.e. Summoning of Meteor) were to happen to the planet.

zacks_clone
02-15-2004, 09:19 PM
i never quite understood that whole peice.The weapon was for that purpos,but yet it started to kill people...And tore up the planet...odd...:: blinks ::

§håd0w
02-15-2004, 09:33 PM
Well it attacked Shin-Ra because Shin-Ra was a threat to the Planet by sucking up all the Mako Energy for the cannon. When all the Mako is gone, then the Planet dies. Weapon sensed it and attacked Shin-Ra. Why it attacked others, I don't know.

RyuuRaigeki
02-17-2004, 06:03 PM
I have an answer for Cloudane and the others who were wondering about the star thing...

Japanese for world is ¢ŠE (sekai), not ¯ ihoshij
which means 'star'. In Kingdom Hearts, for example, a game which deals with multiple worlds, 'sekai' is the word used (at least in the Ansem Reports I've read).

However....

In the Japanese version of Final Fantasy Seven, Sephiroth refers to the Planet not as 'sekai', world, but instead as 'hoshi', star.

He does this at least twice that I know of; once being his infamous

‚±‚Ì ¯ ‚Ì ³“‚È‚é ŒãŒpŽÒI
'I am one of the rightful heirs to this planet!' line.

If you wish for further confimation of this, you can go to the following link and look at the kanji yourself.

(http://www.chevalier.jp/kakuri/language.html)

I'm neither native to Japan or fluent in Japanese, though, so I could be wrong. ^__^

Anyways, what would a planet look like from far away?
Yup, a star.

Hopefully, I'll be able to shed a bit more light on the issue after playing my new copy of FFVII International when it comes in several weeks....

**************
Now, I'd like to share my personal theory on this "Star Scar Syndrome" thing.

Sephiroth originally wanted to summon Meteor to damage the planet. Then he planned on absorbing the energy the planet would try to heal itself with. This, due to the size of Meteor, would have to be a LOT of Lifestream. But...what would happen if there wasn't enough to fix itself with?

Aeris (most likely) was the reason the extra Lifestream came out to try to stop Meteor when Holy failed. Maybe there's a side effect to using so much of the planet's lifeforce. It was already "slowly but surely" (to quote Barret) being drained out of the planet by Shinra, so what if the strain of both that, creating the Weapons, and fending off Meteor was just too much for the planet to handle?

The Lifestream is compromised of life, right? Therefore, it stands to reason that if it began to run dry, it would need more life. Through Bugenhagen's visual demonstration, we discovered that the souls of all living things on the Planet are what essentially compose Lifestream. And if the Lifestream needed more life, where would it take it from first? Surely not the innocent wildlife of the planet.
It would take it from the humans.

So...what I'm saying is that perhaps the Lifestream itself is what caused the "Star Scar Syndrome". I don't think we know yet whether this disease or whatever actually kills people. If it doesn't, perhaps the Lifestream takes a bit out of each person's soul. Not enough to kill, but....
It would be especially ironic if this was true, considering how the Planet would be doing exactly the same thing to the people at the end of the story as what the Shinra were doing to the Planet at the beginning of FFVII.


Where exactly Jenova fits into the mess I haven't really decided yet. In any case, an Planet with a weakened Lifestream should be much easier to take over, like a virus or bacteria strain is more likely to conquer an human or animal with an already weakened immune system.

Any ideas about my theory? And/or has anyone brought this particular theory up before, or am I the first?

GaV
02-17-2004, 08:50 PM
wow i like it nice theory, very different to all the others that have been formulated so far

Cloudane
02-17-2004, 10:47 PM
Thanks for the clarification Ryuu... interesting. I like the idea that it's basically "Planet scar syndrome" (to us, wonder how it'll be finally translated) which makes a lot of sense. I think there's a fine line between stars and planets anyway, though no doubt astronomers would disagree with that one :)

Your theory works well, too. I still think the guy is Jenova (visual clues too... his hair style and colour is similar to what I remember of Jenova's head in various places... the Nibelheim reactor maybe, or was it green there?) but I prefer your theory of how the syndrome is inflicted.

How Jenova would fit into this if it *is* him/her/it... I don't know either :)

§håd0w
02-17-2004, 11:10 PM
Even though I have Japanese roots, I'm not completely fluent, but "Planet Scar Syndrome" makes a bunch of sense since the planet was in near danger of extinction. So 'Scar' seems to work a lot better in this case.

zacks_clone
02-17-2004, 11:58 PM
Amazing theroy.It brings up a bunch of new points and ideas...And a new fanfiction idea to ;) but you really shed some light on that topic for me.

RyuuRaigeki
02-18-2004, 01:22 AM
Cloudane....I really like your name for some odd reason. I just think it sounds nice, and it's original (at least that I've seen). It's much better than the standard Cloud2384782983724 at least...

So you think that the grey Seph look-alike is Jenova?
That's an interesting idea. The game dealt heavily with puppets. Maybe we'll finally meet the puppetmaster.

Hm...another major question was never answered in the game:

What exactly is Jenova?

It's pretty much safe to assume she (or he...or it...or ANO KATA!) is an extraterrestrial, due to all of the 'calamity from the skies' lines in FFVII.
However, is it a planet hopping space alien?
If so, how closely would it resemble Lavos' from Chrono Triggerparasitic traits?
I always thought the two games were similar in many ways...

Perhaps Jenova too is a galactic parasite that comes to a planet, leeches its Lifestream dry, and then moves on to the next. If that's true, imagine how old it's got to be. The distance between stars is vast. The time it would take to travel between them is pretty long. Hundreds, thousands...millions of years?

And if that's true, I'm sure it's dealt with resistance by the native citizens of planets it has destroyed before...
Cloud and the gang could be going against something that has eons upon eons of experience killing planets. Quite a scary prospect.

Sorry I kind of rambled. You can tell I watched too many Star Trek episodes as a young child....
I just hope they finally answer lots of things in the movie!

....not that it'll actually happen.

BTW, has everyone been to the Japanese FFVII AC site yet?

Cloudane
02-19-2004, 11:38 PM
LOL thanks Ryuu... in actual fact it's about one of the least original names I could've come up with... it's just Cloud + Zidane :p My Everquest name, Cloudien, is maybe a little more customised (-ien sounded more fantasy like)

Anyway....

Yet another excellent theory - I never made the CT connection, but that too makes sense. Maybe Jenova has indeed done this several times before, and knows exactly how to prey upon natural greed and influence a planet's inhabitants to weaken the planet they live on.

That would also liven up the story and enhance the characters - can Cloud and company finally stop the being that has been destroying planets for so long, so many times? Would it even be 'right' to... is Jenova really evil and greedy or just a hungry being trying to survive?

Thought-provoking stuff!

(I watched Trek a lot as a kid, too... always knew it'd come in handy one day!)

zacks_clone
02-20-2004, 01:12 PM
as far as how old it is...if i remember correctly,they found jenova in a structure(pillar I always thought,but it was never clearifyed where they found her),and she was said to be 2000 years old...But it may have been 200000 years old,and they may have been talking about the struction.If i can manage it,i'll try and find out again.

Also, on the maine EOFF site, they have posted a link to a trailer for AC.You'v probly already seen it(or...didnt see it because its to fuzzy....) but...it basicly clears up whos being droped in the water.Also,Cloud putting his sword in the ground...does anyone else strongly elieve that this was done for Zack?

GaV
02-20-2004, 02:18 PM
Yes i believe it was done for Zack, the spot where he was gunned down by Shinra troops. I heard it is Japanese warrior tradition to do this, but i may have heard wrong :p

zacks_clone
02-20-2004, 04:16 PM
i head the same thing.That,and the fact that it is the same spot lead me to believe this(and a fangirls hope he'd be in it...-.-;; ). Well,with this said,do you think that they'll show flashbacks of Zack?There is the Sephiroth flame scean,and we know Zack was there at the time...

GaV
02-20-2004, 04:19 PM
I think that may be likely, seeing as Zack played a huge role in ff7 (even though you did not see his character a lot, it was because of him that we learnt so much about Cloud etc)

psychoff7
02-20-2004, 05:05 PM
so ok i think that its gonna be a movie. the "sephiroth" is a clone but one with a cool fighting stile! its not the same sephiroth as in the crater. as im informed the story happens after the end of FF7. so seph is dead. cloud, red XIII, barret, tifa, cid, vincent, yuffie and erverybody who survived the end ist still alive and maybe is in the story. if it is a film, im gonna watch it till i die and if it is a game ill play it till i got some lvl 99 chars (what could be after 60 hrs of gaming :P)

so far
psycho

zacks_clone
02-20-2004, 11:12 PM
i thought it was anounced as a movie...-.-;;


anywho, im with you 100 percent.:b you'll never see me again because i'll be dead infront of my Tv,FFAC playing

RyuuRaigeki
02-21-2004, 02:25 AM
Or...here's another theory:

Jenova IS Lavos!

:D

Just kidding.

Yah, it really does sound like he's talking to Zack when he sticks the sword in the ground, ne?

"Decided to live for your sake", etc...

(Yes, Cloudane, I figured it was those two combined.... I just had't seen it before though, so it's original to me.)

:)

zacks_clone
02-23-2004, 01:03 AM
ahhhh, i found something!

Advent Children (http://ff7ac.net/index.php?s=info/story)


PLEASE go here. Read the two clips they got up and the theroys. Im not sure if anyones posted this site up yet,but i havent seen it befor.

oh!and a wounderful picture that PROVES that the caped falling man is vincent.

http://ff7ac.net/media/ffx2/ffx2int_good_16.jpg

Cloudane
02-23-2004, 01:22 AM
Just standard theories to tell you the truth.

"The opening lines in the movie are spoken by a little girl, and they are something like: "Once upon a time, there was a warrior who defeated the evil known as Sephiroth. His name was...Cloud Strife." " - this isn't true... I've seen the real translation from a few sources and that wasn't it :)

Nice image of Vincent. You can even just about see his face!

There's been another trailer recently with screenshots on www.adventchildren.net that further prove his identity too.

zacks_clone
02-23-2004, 01:24 AM
ohh,i know they are theroys,but its nice to kinda get a general feel about what others think its going to be about.thanks for the link

Cloudane
02-23-2004, 01:44 AM
BTW there's a new high-res trailer (presumably where they got the Vincent image from) at that site including the images of Barrett, Aeris's funeral etc. Worth checking out, it's an excellent trailer and really gives you the excited fuzzies :)

-N-
03-02-2004, 06:17 AM
Looks like the whole party's gonna be back - Barret and Vincent (obviously), I think Tifa and Yuffie too.

Although I'm not sure I buy the whole finding Jenova's head thing all over again... I kinda liked how I defeated JENOVA ABSOLUTE, not JENOVA PARTIALLY THERE.

Mo-Nercy
03-02-2004, 06:48 AM
Yeah. It seems everyone's back. It would be kind of unfair for Squenix to put Vincent in but not Yuffie.

*can't wait for Cid*

And I recommend the new high-res trailer mentioned above. It's pretty good.

§håd0w
03-02-2004, 11:37 PM
Here's the link for the trailer released with FFX-2 International plus Last Mission (http://download.filefront.com/2137774;74d3b1c64169427d87df579748983d1b56bb1cf3f9a320d309b26636c217873e4017f0be3d26a7e9). This one is really good. No subtitles yet, so it sucks for those who can't speak conversational Japanese. It's on a public server, so it could take a while to download. It took me 2 hours on a T3 connection.

nickwilson
03-04-2004, 05:29 PM
i have a friend on the inside he said that the movie will come out frist then the game deepending upon the movie and how much it will make he has a advanced copy of some scencs from the movie it is all computer animated and it rocks. but the last battle is cool u will just have to wait and see my friends what the furtures has to bring. he might even put i on the sight may be but he might not i don't know

Flying Mullet
03-04-2004, 05:35 PM
Originally posted by nickwilson
i have a friend on the inside he said that the movie will come out frist then the game deepending upon the movie and how much it will make he has a advanced copy of some scencs from the movie it is all computer animated and it rocks. but the last battle is cool u will just have to wait and see my friends what the furtures has to bring. he might even put i on the sight may be but he might not i don't know
Ahh yes, another "friend on the inside". :rolleyes2 When will these ever end?

Cloudane
03-05-2004, 12:20 AM
Subbed version of the DVD-quality trailer mentioned earlier:

http://mokkori66.free.fr/ff7ac_hq_subbed.avi

GaV
03-06-2004, 09:19 PM
wow very nice, thats given me a few new ideas :)

§håd0w
03-07-2004, 02:01 PM
How in the hell did it compress from 79 mb to 23mb without chaning quailty? I haven't watched it yet, but it boggles the mind. :Oo:

EDIT
Fair enough, I guess it can be done.

Zero Bahamut
03-08-2004, 07:46 PM
hmmmm, i think a game wud b cool but im still really hoping that it is actually gona b made and then released in europe. it luks so cool, i mean, its got Sephiroth in it -- wot more do u want?!?!?

p.s. Sephiroth ROCKS!!!!!!!! :D :p

FinalDreamer
03-09-2004, 11:48 AM
Yes . i can confirm this picture is true .. check this webbie ...http://www.ffwa.org/news/25-09-2003.html

Big D
03-09-2004, 10:17 PM
It's definite, confirmed, utterly beyond doubt that this film is being made. Unless there's some kind of financial catastrophe at SquareEnix, it'll certainly get released, and an English-language version has been mentioned.

§håd0w
03-10-2004, 01:19 AM
Originally posted by Big D
and an English-language version has been mentioned.

http://www.diamandagalas.com/images/cartman.gif Kick ass...

Kirobaito
03-10-2004, 01:20 AM
What the hell does Cartman have to do with this?

§håd0w
03-10-2004, 01:22 AM
You know how Cartman always says "kick ass" in that screwy voice? That's where I was aiming at.

Kirobaito
03-10-2004, 01:24 AM
Oh, weird, when I replied to that post, instead of posting the picture of Cartman, it showed the URL to the picture. :) I just thought you were saying that that picture of Cartman was kickass...

§håd0w
03-10-2004, 01:24 AM
Ha, yeah, I noticed that myself and had to edit it.

Kirobaito
03-10-2004, 01:36 AM
Oh...so I'm not going crazy.

Anyway, back on the topic of FFVII:AC, does anyone else think Barret's cornrows look really stupid?

And can anyone else see Aeris's skirt and boots by zooming into the hole in the KKK-esque cloak?

zacks_clone
03-10-2004, 01:38 AM
:eek: OH MY GOSH!Your right!Thats...i thought that would have been hte original Sephiroth under that,seeing how my theory was the others were clones...Aeris?!...goodness

i agree with you on the barret thing...he looks...er...well,like he was smacked in the face with a board...

Edit: See the flowers on the windowcill?...connection?

Kirobaito
03-10-2004, 01:42 AM
Yeah, I noticed the flowers too. I lot of people are gonna be mad now, because that stupid woman was supposed to die and stay dead! Including me.

TheAbominatrix
03-10-2004, 09:14 AM
That girl looks too blond to be Aeris. If it is her, I will become officially disgusted with Square.

Mo-Nercy
03-10-2004, 09:28 AM
Noooooooooooooooooooooo~!! Aeris is dead. Aeris is dead. *slowly goes mad*

I am going to personally kill her until she is dead.

zacks_clone
03-10-2004, 08:56 PM
Aye!It hasnt been announced yet!Maybe its a clone!

(( yes, obsessed with clones now.ATTACK OF THE CLONES!...wait,wait,no....thats starwars...))

§håd0w
03-11-2004, 12:35 AM
Originally posted by TheAbominatrix
That girl looks too blond to be Aeris. If it is her, I will become officially disgusted with Square.

Well in the trailer with the Aeris' burial, she has blonde hair. It could be her. But I'd imagine after two years of being in the water you'd being to rot. She looks too intact to be Aeris, but who knows? I could be wrong.

TheAbominatrix
03-11-2004, 12:41 AM
Yeah, after two years of being in the water a body would most likely just be bones, considering that fish love to eat decaying flesh and all. I'm just keeping my fingers crossed that it isnt her.

nevermind6794
03-11-2004, 12:55 AM
'Twould be one hell of a twist if that WAS Aeris, and she WAS dead...that would explain the sheet...maybe they need her for something (being a Cetra and all) and they're reviving/regenerating her, or maybe they just need her corpse/flesh, and the wheelchair was just there for convenient transport.

§håd0w
03-11-2004, 12:57 AM
Maybe the Silver-Haired man is a canibal.

...


It could happen.

zacks_clone
03-11-2004, 01:08 AM
Originally posted by masamune1287
Maybe the Silver-Haired man is a canibal.

...


It could happen.


...

Ewww....


Anyways,her hair was most likely blond because of the light...My hair is probly the same color as Aeris's,and it does look blond in bright light

Erdrick the Hero
03-12-2004, 06:03 AM
Maybe the last Cetra can't die...

Maybe...they are using stem cell research to reproduce Aeris parts

Maybe... i will give birth to a monkey and its name will be Aeria

Maybe... the sorta blonde hair on my arms are aeris...

what if... aeris... stays dead? nah... couldn't happen

/sarcasm

zacks_clone
03-13-2004, 02:07 AM
ohhh,your horrid...;)

I happened to be reading 'I know what lies beneath the snowfeilds',a fanfiction.Im...maybe...chapter 2 or 3...and i was thinking of one of the characters as a clone...so maybe its an aeris clone...

ChibiInuYasha
03-14-2004, 10:14 PM
Hey, has anyone heard the latest music from AC? The Promised Land and Toki no Hourousha. What's weird is Toki no Hourousha is kind of a redo of the VI theme. What's with that?

TheAbominatrix
03-14-2004, 10:17 PM
Are you sure it isnt just some fan adding this music? And Final Fantasy songs are reused and remixed a lot in different games.

ChibiInuYasha
03-16-2004, 01:45 AM
http://ff7ac.net
Looks pretty official to me.
They even have lyrics. Even the Crystal Theme!

EDIT: Maybe I should have read that a little more closely. It does say "possible music". Guess I just got caught up in the momemt. But you should still check it out.

TheAbominatrix
03-16-2004, 01:51 AM
I'd have to see it on either the official site (cause that isnt it... is it? If so, nevermind) or on more than one fan site.

HanaKirei
03-21-2004, 12:25 AM
Mkay, here's a random thought. Let's say that is Aeris there in the wheelchair. Maybe it's Aeris' body, but Jenova's mind controlling it. Jenova's body was destroyed by Cloud and co., and so was Sephy's body, leaving Jenova no where to run to. So instead, she/it headed for the uninhabited body of the last Cetra. The problem? Since Jenova's definately not a Cetra, and Aeris didn't have any Jenova cells in her body, Jenova is extremely limited in her temporary home. Hence the reason why it's crucial that Jenova's head go missing, and would explain why the people with Jenova cells are bowing to her, and yeah...@_@; Like I said, just a random thought.

Big D
03-21-2004, 12:31 AM
That's an interesting theory, HanaKirei...
The party's greatest friend is re-born, but really she's just a vessel for the greatest evil... that'd make it really hard for everyone to fight her. Seeing a dear friend's body, but knowing that it's really the one entity that wants to kill them more than anything else...

§håd0w
03-21-2004, 01:00 AM
That's pretty good, except possessing an already dead body would be pointless, would it not? I mean you'd be sitting there, unable to move, staring at your eyelids, dead. Ehh, who knows?!

Big D
03-21-2004, 02:21 AM
But then, we don't know the full extent of the powers possessed by Jenova's head-portion; nor do we know what becomes of a dead Cetra. Just as Jenova's cells were still viable after two thousand years encased in rock, maybe a Cetra's body clings to life in a similar way...

Whatever they've come up with, I'm sure it'll be interesting and unexpected :)

§håd0w
03-21-2004, 02:28 AM
Touche! Let's just hope it doesn't flop like TSW did. But I'm looking at the brighter side, and it will be good. BTW, has there been any confirmed day or month in which the DVD will be released?

zacks_clone
03-21-2004, 11:13 PM
all i can think of is frankensiten...

nope, sorry, no clue when the dvds comming out.hope by the end of the year atleast, for here in america

§håd0w
03-21-2004, 11:52 PM
Yeah, I know Summer of '04 was for Japan, but I haven't heard anything about America. But if you can read Japanese, a Gameshark does wonders since it allows you to play any region DVD.

Savior_Sephiroth
03-30-2004, 05:07 PM
This movie will be great

Rostum
04-01-2004, 07:47 AM
No one's mentioned the two guys that are fighting along side the 'Sephy lookalike' have they?

§håd0w
04-01-2004, 10:36 PM
Nope but they have guns.

Rostum
04-01-2004, 10:41 PM
One of them reminds me of Dyne. *shrugs*

Big D
04-01-2004, 10:48 PM
Originally posted by masamune1287
Touche! Let's just hope it doesn't flop like TSW did.TSW flopped for reasons, not just because it was a Square movie. It's unfair to say "Square made a bad movie, therefore evey movie they make is bad by default". That reasoning only applies to teen comedies.

We'll have to wait 'n' see... AC could be good, could be bad; personally, I'm hoping for 'utterly brilliant', and that's a real possibility as long as they writers maintain the high standard they're capable of.:)

§håd0w
04-01-2004, 10:50 PM
It's unfair to say "Square made a bad movie, therefore evey movie they make is bad by default". That reasoning only applies to teen comedies.

I wasn't trying to imply that. If that's how I came across, then sorry. But the second part... so true D, sooo true.

Flying Mullet
04-01-2004, 10:50 PM
I think that Cloud will die in the first 10 minutes of the movie.

Nakor TheBlue Rider
04-02-2004, 04:04 AM
that would be great....

What a twist....

heh... <--- Always wanted Sephiroth to Win anyways :p

Big D
04-02-2004, 04:32 AM
Originally posted by masamune1287
I wasn't trying to imply that. If that's how I came across, then sorry. Nah, no worries, I never thought that. Didn't want others to get any crazy ideas, though:hat:

I'm hoping they don't kill any of the major characters, not without a really good reason.
Like, for instance, Vincent sacrificing himself in a seemingly hopeless battle, in order to 'pay for his sins'... something poignant like that would be tolerable.

Edit: Not saying I want them to kill Vincent or anything.

-N-
04-02-2004, 10:39 PM
Like, for instance, Vincent sacrificing himself in a seemingly hopeless battle, in order to 'pay for his sins'... something poignant like that would be tolerable.

Good thing Big D's not a writer. :p

Andex
04-03-2004, 06:34 AM
ohhhh man, i saw this and almost wet myself. I think the silver haired man is somehow a genetic spin off of either jenova, or sephy.

I hope in the end Sephiroth kills everyone and the whole world is ingulfed in flames and under his controll. That would be the best thing _Ever_

Big D
04-03-2004, 10:37 AM
Originally posted by princeofdarknez
Like, for instance, Vincent sacrificing himself in a seemingly hopeless battle, in order to 'pay for his sins'... something poignant like that would be tolerable.

Good thing Big D's not a writer. :p I'm just sayin', that if someone's going to die, it's got to be for a good reason, not just a convenient way of avoiding plot implications, or something.

DocFrance
04-03-2004, 05:14 PM
That would be a good reason.

-N-
04-04-2004, 12:26 AM
EDIT: Good thing Big D and DocFrance aren't writers. :p

I'm just messing with you guys, I know what you mean, but "paying for his sins" also seems a bit evasive. Didn't he conclude at the end of Disc II "Hojo was the one who should have slept" anyways?

Big D
04-04-2004, 01:14 AM
It'd also be interesting to see whether the AVALANCHE guys ever faced any kind of penalty or judgement for the lives they took during their terrorist days... sure, they saved the world, but they did kill innocent people before then. Did the people of the world feel that they needed to face some kind of consequences?

§håd0w
04-04-2004, 03:18 AM
I figured the consequences they suffered were the loss of Biggs, Jesse, and Wedge. But who knows

Big D
04-04-2004, 04:58 AM
Heh. By the time this movie comes out, we'll already have analyses and considered every possible plot twist, so there'll be hardly any surprises anyway. *Sigh*

Oh yeah... this isn't directed at anyone in particular, but now's probably as good a time as any to say it:
If you're revealing important plot information about Advent Children, please mark it with 'spoiler' tags - [spoi</>ler] at the start, and [/spo</>iler] at the end. All of the text in between will be darkened, so nobody can read it unless they highlight it.
See? It's that easy!
This'll just help to prevent the plot of Advent Children from being spoiled for those who want to wait 'n' see.

Flying Mullet
04-05-2004, 03:20 PM
Originally posted by Big D
I'm hoping they don't kill any of the major characters, not without a really good reason.
Like, for instance, Vincent sacrificing himself in a seemingly hopeless battle, in order to 'pay for his sins'... something poignant like that would be tolerable.

See, I think that it would be great to kill of a character for no reason what-so-ever. Like there's a group with Cloud in it, and Clouds leading the group through a town/city and he turns around to talk to the group when he walks out into the street and gets blindsided by a bus and it turned into a pancake.

Of course I'd like to see it just to see how many people start crying and whining in the movie theater. I can't believe how attached people get to characters in a video game. But that's just me. :hat:

§håd0w
04-06-2004, 01:14 AM
Wait, they're gonna premier this in theaters?

Wrexsoul
04-06-2004, 03:57 AM
No.

Big D
04-06-2004, 04:52 AM
It might get shown privately in a Japanese theatre or two, but it sure as heck won't get a mainstream cinematic release in the rest of the world. They couldn't earn much of a profit by showing movies that only a handful of people in each city would want to see.

FFboy4ever
04-12-2004, 01:17 AM
My friend told me that she read the Japanese and American versions of the movie are going to be released close together, so hopefully it's true and we dont' have to wait 6 months after the Jap version is out :D

Kawaii Ryûkishi
04-12-2004, 02:10 AM
It's a straight-to-DVD release, and there's been no official word whether or not it's going to come to America at all. Of course it will, though, because by golly, America loves Cloud.

DocFrance
04-12-2004, 02:24 AM
Cloud Strife for president!

First item on his agenda: send a force to North Korea to take away their Black Materia.

-N-
04-14-2004, 07:59 AM
Second item - construct someone who actually looks like him in real life.

Rostum
04-17-2004, 12:08 PM
I wonder what happened the the Weapons? Do you think they were totaly destroyed, or will they come to help the planet once more?

Kawaii Ryûkishi
04-17-2004, 09:28 PM
It would be too much to try to squeeze the Weapons into the story, and there's really no reason to do so, since every last one of them was clearly annihilated in FFVII.

Cloudane
04-17-2004, 11:47 PM
Yup, I'd be quite saddened to see something like Weapon wasting time on AC when there's so little time for a plot in the first place :)

Rostum
04-18-2004, 12:44 AM
Yeah that's true, just wondering anyways. Hopefully they extend it pass the 60 minute length mark, like a normal movie.

TheAbominatrix
04-18-2004, 01:11 AM
Actually, it's been announced that the movie will be at least 80 minutes long. It's probably in this thread somewhere, but I can't be bothered looking :p..

Cloudane
04-18-2004, 02:06 AM
The longer the better IMO. They have *a lot* of questions to answer in that story, a lot of good characters to re-introduce and a lot of ground to cover :) 60 mins seems amazingly, catastrophically too short.

-N-
04-18-2004, 03:21 AM
A lot of questions? There are no real questions left to answer save the usual "what happens next" questions... and that whole Sephiroth/Jenova debate crap.

Casey
04-20-2004, 05:05 AM
A lot of questions? There are no real questions left to answer save the usual "what happens next" questions... and that whole Sephiroth/Jenova debate crap.

Yeah.


Cuz Cloud has to kill those seph clones and settle the score. There are no questions. Maybe at the end Aerith is resurrected. :D

Rostum
04-20-2004, 08:27 AM
Maybe at the end Aerith is resurrected. :D

I hope you are joking.

LionHart
04-24-2004, 04:40 AM
So, what's the release date for this again?

§håd0w
04-25-2004, 01:44 AM
Summer '04...

As stated numerous times.