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Origin
09-25-2003, 01:12 PM
Not what you'd think tho. It's a movie not a game. Animated movie set 2 years after the end of FF7. Its due sometime 2004.
It's looking awesome judging by the few shots I've seen! (on a poster, im attatching it to this post)

Ok let the hysteria begin!!! :excited: :excited: :excited: :excited: :excited: :excited:

neeber
09-25-2003, 01:37 PM
Do you have a link that confirms your statement?
Preferably in english.

If you don't, how do we know that this isn't just a lame rumor?

Origin
09-25-2003, 01:45 PM
umm because you check out the picture i attatched? im sure someone faked that ^_^;
if you want to know where i found out sure, but it's in swedish :greenie:

http://www.gamingeye.com/konsol/nyheter/nyhet.eye?id=31313

Kindo
09-25-2003, 01:45 PM
Yeah, some confirmation, please. I was about to go hysterical, but then remembered that there had been a billion rumours like this one already.

Origin
09-25-2003, 01:49 PM
o_O whats with you people?

lookie here:

It's looking awesome judging by the few shots I've seen! (on a poster, im attatching it to this post)

Did you both just happen to miss that? And the attatchment under it aswell?

Rand Al'Tor
09-25-2003, 01:57 PM
You'd be amazed how much time some people have on their hands with nothing better to do then making such a poster. And one PC-game page can be duped in something like that. I remain sceptical.

What...Square isn't gonna tell anyone except one Swedish gaming site about their new movie?

edit: Seems my jaded, cynical soul is proven WRONG for once. http://www.rpgfan.com/news/2003/1955.html I stand corrected. Unlikely two sites would be duped in the same way. (unlikely.... not impossible though) (yes, I AM a killjoy)

Kindo
09-25-2003, 01:58 PM
Posters can be faked, my friend. I'm not gonna run around screaming like a girl just because of another rumour. There's no guarantee that the guy who wrote that article actually had received any confirmation like that. I'm keeping my pants on til there's an official message about. ;)

Breine
09-25-2003, 02:01 PM
REALLY!? Is this really happening!? OMG! I'm already looking so much forward to it! *jumps uo and down* Wee! This is really happening! I'm sooo happy! :D

Kindo
09-25-2003, 02:07 PM
Er, I understand Swedish perfectly, and I still don't see how either the article or the poster confirms anything. It's just a guy who "says" that he's received confirmation about an FF7 movie called Advent Children. He's saying it, without proof.

Breine
09-25-2003, 02:09 PM
Er, I understand Swedish perfectly, and I still don't see how either the article or the poster confirms anything. It's just a guy who "says" that he's received confirmation about an FF7 movie called Advent Children. He's saying it, without proof.

... I just saw that you are Swedish, so I edited my reply. :)

Origin
09-25-2003, 02:09 PM
oh yeah.. im sure someone would spend THAT much time on making a fake poster.. give me a break.. have you seen it? its practically photo realistic..

i dont get you guys.. accept it and be HAPPY!! *dances around* :D

Kindo
09-25-2003, 02:11 PM
You know, doesn't even look like a poster to me. More like a cover of a magazine or something. But like it's been said, people with lots of free-time could easily manipulate stuff like that.

And I will NOT accept this with as little proff that guy is giving.
"Today we received the confirmation, but it's not a game. Instead, we get the DVD movie Advent Children."
That's basically what he says, why in the Oglop's holy name should I just trust those words blindly?

Rand Al'Tor
09-25-2003, 02:11 PM
Yeah, but another page is telling the same, giving a Japanese page as a source. http://www2u.biglobe.ne.jp/~nanko/

Even my sceptisism is considering capitulation. (of course, I would prefer an VIII movie, but VII will be fun as well)

Edit: More specific URL of the Japanese site. http://www2u.biglobe.ne.jp/~nanko/news.cgi?id=2003092516

Origin
09-25-2003, 02:16 PM
umm i doubt many people outside of square have the ability to model 3d images as realistic as those...
theres scepticism, wich is good in cases like this. i wouldnt believe it myself had i not seen the picture. but then theres being overly sceptic... *points at certain peoples*


And I will NOT accept this with as little proff that guy is giving.
"Today we received the confirmation, but it's not a game. Instead, we get the DVD movie Advent Children."
That's basically what he says, why in the Oglop's holy name should I just trust those words blindly?

Because he is working for a very respected gamingsite? Why do you trust anything on any gamingsite if you dont trust him?

edit: accidentally double posted..! :o

Kindo
09-25-2003, 02:20 PM
He doesn't speak anything of who gave him that "comfirmation", he never mentions any names or resources.

Rand Al'Tor
09-25-2003, 02:22 PM
We never heard of that page. There's googles of gaming sites outthere. It's not a great leap of faith to assume some of them are less then draconic in their tests for verification. Three sites, one of them Japanese is another matter.

And the magazine? Nobody said it would need to be MADE from scratch... just take a nice cosplay picture and work a bit on it or soemthing. With time, patience, some talent and easily obtainable software and hardware you can do that.

Origin
09-25-2003, 02:25 PM
So? I fail to see how that matters. Either Square made a press release about it or he got it from that japaneese site in wich case it would be stupid to link to it since swedes usually can't read japaneese..
oh well i dont really care if you believe it or not so meh

Rand Al'Tor
09-25-2003, 02:30 PM
Hey, I told you. I believe it now. It's just that ONE site, not giving any sources is kinda.... "eh? We'll see" Not that it must mean the site is lying, but that they're unknown sources might not be reliable. Which is why it's always good to mention your sources, even IF most people won't be able to read more then "oh yeah.. they mention something about it, and the pics ae there too"

Kindo
09-25-2003, 02:31 PM
I'd like to see that press release, OR get some knowledge on what the hell that Japanese site says. So maybe it's not stupid to link to that page since noone understands it, but clever to link to that page since noone understands it. ;)

Rand Al'Tor
09-25-2003, 02:42 PM
Heh...you're even more paranoid then I am...impressive. ;)

But I DO think the gaming site wouldn't make up a translation out of their ass. That's a bit TOO bald a lie. So the Japanese probably says the whole thing.... of course... the Japanese site could be fibbing, and have the Swedish and the American site falling for it, but with SIX pictures? It would surprise me.

Hmmm...odd... can't find anything on it on Google...probabl too fresh.

XeQtR
09-25-2003, 03:08 PM
I guess we'll see more of it during the Tokyo Game Show ;)
Anyways, this looks good if it's true, but i'm not getting my hopes up yet.
Besides, don't we want a game more than a movie? I do for sure :p

Kindo
09-25-2003, 03:14 PM
Yeah, sorry if I've appeared disliking about this news, I'm just a bit reluctant to believe it until there's a more "official" statement, which probably won't happen until the Game Show. Of course I'd love it if it was true, if they managed to maintain the feel of FF7 in a movie, and not make it corny and slutty like they did with X-2. I would also prefer a game over a movie, same stuff there... no sequel á la X-2, please. ;)

Origin
09-25-2003, 03:28 PM
I actually prefer a movie as a sequel rather than a game since i feel there isnt enough material in the end of FF7 to make for a whole 40 hour game.
Most of all though i want an FF7 remake.
Maybe we'll get a remake once game graphics match those in this movie :eek:
That sure would rawk :greenie:

edczxcvbnm
09-25-2003, 04:08 PM
This is going to either be cool or suck...suck like the Spirits with in sucks. Lets just hope it isn't that sucky.

Xander
09-25-2003, 04:19 PM
I just headed over to an FF site and saw this too! Wow, it looks cool if it is true. This site doesn't mention if it is a movie or a game, it just says "sequel". It shows the same sorta thing that was in the poster that Origin posted.
I don't know if it's true or not, but my friend didn't believe me when I first found out about FFX-2 coming out! So it's possible I guess we will have to wait and see, but it looks cool anyway and would be good if it was true. ^^

Link: http://www.fffusion.com/FFVII-2/25-09-2003.asp

Crono9051
09-25-2003, 04:25 PM
It's true! I read an article at www.rpgfan.com that square was planning on releasing a DVD movie of Final Fantasy VII, which takes place two years after Cloud and friends save the world. Also that Cloud and Sephiroth will appear on the DVD. They will probably announce it at the next Tokyo Game Show. I can't wait!!!!!!!!!:D

Female Ryuichi
09-25-2003, 04:33 PM
Square-Enix's list of games for the TGS has FFVII on it oddly enough. But no confirmed console . Remake? It COULD have also been a typo. Since its my favorite game of all time I was instantly curious about it. Remeber nothing is confirmed so don't fry me in a skillet if nothing comes from it.
No, this is a quote from other board. This could be real, but I'm going to remain sceptisism, until one site that I know doesn't confirm rumours says about it.

Edit: Yes, it has been said, I'm going to look at the square website. This website is pretty good at sorting out rumours http://www.rpgamer.com/news/Q3-2003/092503b.html

Wrexsoul
09-25-2003, 05:09 PM
Wow, if rpgamer's even confirmed it...... then it could possibly be true....

But I'm still holding out for the Tokyo Game Show.

Nevermore
09-25-2003, 05:14 PM
If this is real, then I've only got one thing to say about it.

:skull::skull::skull::skull:IN' RIGHTS.

Breine
09-25-2003, 05:57 PM
http://www.gamereactor.net/news/index.asp?NewsID=10451


To those of you that understands Danish (or just a little) take a look.

According to this article Tifa, Barret and all the other characters will be back. AND, the article makes it sound like that Final Fantasy VII - Advent Children isn't gonna be a movie, but a game! Hmm?

Nevermore
09-25-2003, 06:05 PM
Any word on Aerrith?

XeQtR
09-25-2003, 06:25 PM
The danish article make it sound more like a game, yes, but they don't state that it's a game or a movie. Maybe they don't know, like us? ;)

And no, it doesn't say anything about Aeris.

Xander
09-25-2003, 06:28 PM
Game or movie I don't think that Aeris should be in it.. after all she died and if she were to come back it wouldn't make much sense plus would make her death in FFVII not mean as much Mind you I thought Cloud killed Sephy too but he seems to be in it. And Aeris was in Kingdom Hearts looking very alive . So maybe I could accept it. :p

Kindo
09-25-2003, 06:28 PM
Since Aeris is dead, I for one think it would be very lame if she just came back.

Breine
09-25-2003, 06:43 PM
Since Aeris is dead, I for one think it would be very lame if she just came back.

Yes, it would be lame. BUT, it could actually be cool to see her in a flashback or something.



The danish article make it sound more like a game, yes, but they don't state that it's a game or a movie. Maybe they don't know, like us?

Yes it does. Maybe it's a game, and not a movie? I don't know, but mostly I think it's a movie...

Spatvark
09-25-2003, 10:05 PM
From what I've heard in several places, it's a film. It's also pretty safe to assume that Aeris will appear in it since I'm guessing that Advent Children is to focus on the characters, and what's happened to them since the end of the game. How can you go on about Cloud's mental state without bringing up Aeris? It's impossible; she will appear in it, though I can only hope in a flashback type scenario, not that they effin' resurrect her =S

To be honest though, I think it's one of the best ideas Square have had insomuch as making it a film; with so many of the games, there's argument over what happens, but a film is far more... oblique generally, than the games tend to be. It may also clear up a lot of the arguments that have been ongoing about the original game as well...

But time will tell I guess; it's still not 100% confirmed in my eyes, though I think it's safe to say that it is genuine.

IamTidus
09-25-2003, 10:05 PM
I belive it! Whoknows maybe this is Square's big secret the going to let out at the Tokyo Game Show.

Rostum
09-25-2003, 10:51 PM
*Passes out*

30 minutes later...

This... is true? Woah, it will be so good if Square-Enix announce it at the Tokyo Game Show. I shouldn't get my hopes up though, it may not release in Australia.

Kindo
09-25-2003, 11:55 PM
A movie actually sounds better... if it were a game, it would probably be something lame and slutty like X-2 was, anyway.

Wrexsoul
09-26-2003, 12:40 AM
Agreed.

...man, it would rock if the Turks made it past Meteor. If they weren't meant to, I would very sad.

Kami
09-26-2003, 01:42 AM
Originally posted by edczxcvbnm
This is going to either be cool or suck...suck like the Spirits with in sucks. Lets just hope it isn't that sucky.
ditto. I was so disappointed with spirits within.

Erdrick Holmes
09-26-2003, 01:57 AM
Live action, wow, thats just bout corny but somewhat cool, is gonna appear in the US in 2004 right or just Japan

twobitmage
09-26-2003, 02:27 AM
http://www2u.biglobe.ne.jp/~nanko/images/6787.jpg

Right in the poster, the japanese at one point says "geemu" which means game in japanese (japanese pronunciation)

Max
09-26-2003, 02:37 AM
Dont you think it would be kind of weird that after the game being made 5 0r six years ago that they would now make a move dvd etc. now?DOnt get me wrong I would love it.Now that I think about it I guess there are a lot of fans.Ok forget I said that:greenie:

SomethingBig
09-26-2003, 02:48 AM
Originally posted by twobitmage
http://www2u.biglobe.ne.jp/~nanko/images/6787.jpg

Right in the poster, the japanese at one point says "geemu" which means game in japanese (japanese pronunciation)
It can say something like, "Based on the hip Playstation game blah blah blah." Also, if you read on the Eyes on FF main page, it has been said that Advent Children is going to be a movie on DVD.

Big D
09-26-2003, 03:07 AM
Best game-related news I've heard in a long while.
If it's been reported at Eyes on FF, then it's got to be true. I hear that place really knows its stuff.;)

As long as the plot, script and voice-cast are OK, it has the potential to be brilliant. Especially if it gets a subtitled western release before too long.

Please, everyone, keep posting new info as it arrives!

Meow
09-26-2003, 04:23 AM
Is it just me, or does this "amazing CG picture of Cloud" look like a very well-edited picture of Elijah Wood with a blonde mop?

i don't know, guys. Remember how well that "hunting for bambi" hoax infiltrated the media? Just because multiple sites say the same thing doesn't mean much. Especially when that same image is all they've got. And also especially when said image, while of professional quality, doesn't look to me to be of professional layout.

i'm still a bit sceptical. But hey, if it is true, i'm all for an FF7 movie happening. :)

Big D
09-26-2003, 05:11 AM
Yeah, even the photographed action figures in the "FFVII-2 poster" made quite a stir back in April.
The layout looks a bit strange, but then it's a magazine cover rather than an official advertisement. Still, it's strange that nothing at all has been mentioned about this 'till now - typically, you'd expect some kind of official announcement before serious production began.
An up-close look at that picture's quite revealing; there are a lot of fine details in the character images. Could quite easily be character skins in another game's engine, I suppose... but for now, a little optimism won't hurt.
I like the new-look logo, for one thing; if Nobuo Uematsu's doing the score, then I'd say they've got a good recipe for perfection.

Hopefully.

Still, the official yea or nay would be nice...

edczxcvbnm
09-26-2003, 05:29 AM
Its offical you fools. Yes I am calling you fools because you don't go out and acutally try to find any sort of news.

http://www.rpgfan.com/news/2003/1955.html
http://ps2.ign.com/articles/451/451541p1.html

Just 2 sites. WHAT THE HELL IS WRONG WITH YOU PEOPLE?!!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!? :Oo:

Meow
09-26-2003, 05:50 AM
Plenty of posts have already covered the many articles out there, all of which are essentially the exact same "scoop" with the exact same single image. This implies to me that it all came from one particular, obviously unofficial, source.

i won't fully believe any of this until Square says something about it. And if the articles speak truth, that will be very soon. And rumor shall be struck down by the Holy Sword of Veritas, and the boards will explode with ten thousand threads all saying the same thing. Yay?

edczxcvbnm
09-26-2003, 06:40 AM
Its Jump Magazine and it gets leaked all the time. All magazines have leaks all the time. Its nothing new.

Big D
09-26-2003, 07:14 AM
Its offical you fools. Yes I am calling you fools because you don't go out and acutally try to find any sort of news.Actually, I did run a Yahoo.com search on "Final Fantasy VII Advent Children", which turned up nothing useful. Likewise when I browsed through the Squaresoft USA and Square Enix Europe sites' news pages.
Far from being "foolish", it's actually prudent to avoid knotting one's undies 'till there's some official news, which should hopefully be released in the next day or so, according to that IGN.com article.

BatChao
09-26-2003, 08:19 AM
This sounds cool. I read the article at IGN and it seems pretty official. Looks nice enough. Most likely it will be a movie, not a game, and hopefully it'll find it's way to the US sometime.

eternalshiva
09-26-2003, 10:15 AM
*has a heart attack*

I can't take anymore exciting news today!

Kindo
09-26-2003, 10:25 AM
I'll seriously jump ten thousand feet up in the air if Vincent's in it. :D

Big D
09-26-2003, 10:28 AM
Hopefully we'll be able to settle the "Yuffie or Yoo-fie" argument that's been brewing since Kingdom Hearts, too...

Nakor TheBlue Rider
09-26-2003, 10:54 AM
I liked the spirits within Movie.....

I could only hope that this is as cool as that.

Although FF7 was one of the coolest damn games ever....so I am sure it will have some "coolness"

treaos
09-26-2003, 02:09 PM
this should be good, though to tell the truth it looks like a cosplay movie, not that that would be bad seeing as the players actually look good a fan movie(proporley made mind you) would do wonders

Kenshin IV
09-26-2003, 04:28 PM
Cloud looks like shit (http://). Sephiroth looks like shit (http://). Why the hell is Sephiroth even there!? Why, why couldn't they have picked a worse game to do this to? >_< It was better with Final Fantasy X-2, Ten wasn't all that great so there wasn't much to ruin, but SEVEN!?

*goes into rabid fanboy mode*

I never thought I'd be so pissed at Square on a day they announced Kingdom Hearts 2... which looks pretty kick-ass by the way. -_-

XeQtR
09-26-2003, 05:12 PM
I agree with Kenshin IV. I guess most of you knows what happened to Sephiroth, and it will just be stupid if he's another clone.

I believe i speak for the majority here when i'm saying that they should drop this project and rather create a remake, or at least a game.

BG-57
09-26-2003, 05:17 PM
I dunno. It could be great if they learned any lessons from FF TSW. :rolleyes2 I loved the visuals, but they storyline felt recycled out of all those 'Alien' movies. While it's nice to have both, I'd settle for a great storyline.

MagicKnight Locke
09-26-2003, 05:55 PM
if they dont do it ill laugh at all those who kept their hopes up.
If theyll do it ill crash all of my ff7 cds and play golf with them...then play ff8,ff6 and ff3j.

Female Ryuichi
09-26-2003, 06:03 PM
Originally posted by Kindo
I'll seriously jump ten thousand feet up in the air if Vincent's in it. :D

I will dance if this is true and Vincent in it. Yes, I will do my happy dance :D happy happy happy...

But I still think it would look better as an anime

Origin
09-26-2003, 06:37 PM
i think it looks awesome
i love the visual style :greenie:

Kindo
09-26-2003, 06:43 PM
So, instead of a 40+ hours long game, we get a 60 minute long movie... ugh, oh well... better than nothing, I guess. :/

Loony BoB
09-26-2003, 06:54 PM
Is anyone else here a bit worried that the voices will be totally different than you imagined them? xD

Radje
09-26-2003, 06:55 PM
So worried you wouldn't beleive

PhoenixAsh
09-26-2003, 09:33 PM
I honestly don't see this being that great. I've wanted a sequel to VII since playing it. I even wanted Aeris back.

But is it me or isn't making an FF set two years after the previous one somewhat familiar?
Sephiroth coming back just sounds like money grabbing. Jenova surviving would have made sense, hell even a few Shinra operatives. But Sephiroth???

Where did the magazine get the screens from? Why are there just enough words in English to make sure we can understand it? If that's the cover then surely they didn't put every single screen they had on the front? Along with a picture from the original for some reason.
The big picture of Cloud looks more like a painting than computer images to me.

So I'm sceptical, but if it's a game and comes out for PS2 then I'm happy.

ChibiInuYasha
09-26-2003, 10:31 PM
Cloud looks like Seymore + Tidus :(

Rand Al'Tor
09-26-2003, 10:33 PM
Oi... speak for yourself. Most people here seem to like the idea. And for all you know Sephiroth is mainly flash backs. Still, raising Sephiroth CAN be done in a good way. And if you're scared of ruining your game... well, there's a simple solution, and it saves you money as well. Don't watch the movie ;)

ChibiInuYasha
09-26-2003, 10:42 PM
Dont get me wrong, I'm excited and all. But I just think CG Cloud looks like Seymore + Tidus, dont you?

IamTidus
09-26-2003, 10:45 PM
It probely will be a flash back. Cause I think I saw scene where Sephiroth burns down Nieblehelm. I'm pretty sure I spelled that wrong but I hope you know what sayingBut it was in the new graghics.

Rand Al'Tor
09-26-2003, 10:50 PM
Chibi Inu yasha. Sorry for the misunderstanding. It was addressed at XEqtr. I just type slow (NO, you post too fast)

Nice signature pic BTW. A whole new meaning to the term 'blood-related'

XeQtR
09-27-2003, 01:30 AM
Originally posted by Rand Al'Tor
Oi... speak for yourself. Most people here seem to like the idea. And for all you know Sephiroth is mainly flash backs. Still, raising Sephiroth CAN be done in a good way. And if you're scared of ruining your game... well, there's a simple solution, and it saves you money as well. Don't watch the movie ;)



Originally posted by Rand Al'Tor
Chibi Inu yasha. Sorry for the misunderstanding. It was addressed at XEqtr. I just type slow (NO, you post too fast)

Nice signature pic BTW. A whole new meaning to the term 'blood-related'


I see your point here, and i guess my previous post was a little bit agressive as well.
I will, like all the others here, watch the movie.

But, Rand Al'Tor, can you really say that you want a 60 minutes long movie more than you would want a 40-80 hour long game? I'm not so sure about that.

zacks_clone
09-27-2003, 02:54 AM
OMG!!:whoa: :cry: :D I just felt like crying out of happyness!This made my day!I was so happy!A MOVIE!A MOVIE!CAN YOU BELIVE IT?!AHHHHH!

Sorry,sorry.i was just so happy

ShadyMilkman
09-27-2003, 03:02 AM
Well, what would you rather Cloud sound? Deep and raspy? Or more like a teenager? What about Tifa... will they make her out to look like Cloud's slut? or more like a good-hearted girlfriend??..... Can't wait!!!! Square makes so much money off of us.. if they charged $300 per DVD... we'd still buy it! lol

zacks_clone
09-27-2003, 03:03 AM
Well, what would you rather Cloud sound? Deep and raspy? Or more like a teenager? What about Tifa... will they make her out to look like Cloud's slut? or more like a good-hearted girlfriend??..... Can't wait!!!! Square makes so much money off of us.. if they charged $300 per DVD... we'd still buy it! lol


COURSE WE WOULD BUY IT!

Advent Child
09-27-2003, 03:06 AM
i'm bored of the FFVII characters. this isn't going to be very good. that's not to say I won't see it.

ShadyMilkman
09-27-2003, 03:09 AM
Party pooper... j/k

darkchrono
09-27-2003, 08:54 AM
The project will be a bomb. They can possibly ruin all the characters that have been immortalized in the gaming community. If this is true there are so many things that could go wrong with it. And only a small chance it would go right.


Besides, Square is good at making 60 hour long video games. Not 90 minute long movies. What could the characters possibly do in 90 minutes that would really be all that interesting.

Square just doesn't seem like they are making very good business decisions. Somebody needs to tell them to not mess with good things that weren't meant to be messed with. Mess with good things that were meant to be messed with. Like Xenogears. But wait, they couldn't get that right either. And let the series go somewhere else.

Square is destined to have a tragic downfall based on bad business decisions.

alnykleo
09-27-2003, 11:57 AM
It's not even 90 minutes, only 60. -_-

Check out this topic (http://cgi.gamefaqs.com/boards/genmessage.asp?board=20052&topic=10273776) on gamefaqs, someone apparantly got to see a preview of AC on TGS and translated it. Very spoilerish.

I'm really not sure what to think...

Origin
09-27-2003, 12:01 PM
how do you know its 60 minutes?

Big D
09-27-2003, 12:35 PM
Sixty minutes sounds like it'd be a waste of time. There's so little that could happen in such a short time... most TV series pilot episodes are longer than that. Ninety at least would be tolerable.

Edit: However... that Gamefaqs translation did say sixty. Kinda hoping it's wrong.

What can happen in one hour?
Lots of people die from the Star Scar illness; Sephiroth - or a lookalike - makes a comeback and gets snipped by Cloud. Not much room for the 'journey to save the world' they hinted about.

Nakor TheBlue Rider
09-27-2003, 01:16 PM
Ahh but what if they make it so the Sephiroth you beat in FF7 was the clone and the new Sephy is the real one?


What then......

Breine
09-27-2003, 01:34 PM
Sixty minutes sounds like it'd be a waste of time. There's so little that could happen in such a short time... most TV series pilot episodes are longer than that. Ninety at least would be tolerable.

Yeah, 60 min. isn't much. But maybe they're making more movies than one? Maybe two, or even three Advent Children movies?

Or maybe the 60 min. thing is just a rumuor. let's hope so.

Loony BoB
09-27-2003, 02:24 PM
I think people should stop hyping it up so much and just consider it an add-on, or something. Like an alternative ending to the game. There are fanfics all over the world, don't forget, and people don't slag them off because they're short. This one just happens to be official - don't knock them for not making it into a feature film.

Mikztsu
09-27-2003, 03:44 PM
If it's only 60 minutes, I'm not expecting too much for my own sake, to not be disappointed. I'm very excited hearing this. It'll be very interesting.

Kenshin IV
09-27-2003, 04:16 PM
And here I thought Square couldn't have done anything dumber than making Final Fantasy X-2. Boy, they sure showed me. -_-

Kindo
09-27-2003, 04:23 PM
Originally posted by Nakor TheBlue Rider
Ahh but what if they make it so the Sephiroth you beat in FF7 was the clone and the new Sephy is the real one?


What then......
That would be lame, they can't just change the story like that. Terribly wrong.

Meow
09-27-2003, 04:54 PM
Remember though, everyone: Cowboy Bebop kicked ass in twenty-five minute quickies. Sixty minutes may not be long, but Square may be able to do well with it.

Course, i'm still not entirely sold that this is truly in the works. But to each his own, i suppose.

Kenshin IV
09-27-2003, 05:08 PM
...You're not honestly going to compare a Final Fantasy movie to Cowboy Bepop, are you? Cowboy Bepop is a rare masterpiece that goes well beyond most other animes. It's almost in a completely different catagory that is shared only by a handful of other animes (Evangelion and FLCL for example).
Square masters in video games, movies and animation are a whole nother area which, so far, they've proven to suck at. The Spirits Within was just decent, and they went all out on that one. My complaint isn't even the fact that's going to be a movie, it's that it's going to be at all! Seven was perfect the way it was, it didn't need anything to add onto it. And Christ, when will they realize that 3D realistic animation doesn't work, and isn't always necessary, for everything! Just looking at the way they're making Cloud and Sephiroth look makes me sick. It doesn't fit them at all.
And I swear if they somehow get Lance Bass to voice Sephiroth again.... >_<

ChibiInuYasha
09-27-2003, 09:09 PM
Suppossedly, it was said at TGS that FFVII: AC isn't going to be a movie at all, it's some completely new consept and they just aren't sure how to delvier it yet. Hmm...

ZeZipster
09-27-2003, 09:17 PM
Originally posted by Kenshin IV
...You're not honestly going to compare a Final Fantasy movie to Cowboy Bepop, are you? Cowboy Bepop is a rare masterpiece that goes well beyond most other animes. It's almost in a completely different catagory that is shared only by a handful of other animes (Evangelion and FLCL for example).
Square masters in video games, movies and animation are a whole nother area which, so far, they've proven to suck at. The Spirits Within was just decent, and they went all out on that one. My complaint isn't even the fact that's going to be a movie, it's that it's going to be at all! Seven was perfect the way it was, it didn't need anything to add onto it. And Christ, when will they realize that 3D realistic animation doesn't work, and isn't always necessary, for everything! Just looking at the way they're making Cloud and Sephiroth look makes me sick. It doesn't fit them at all.
And I swear if they somehow get Lance Bass to voice Sephiroth again.... >_<

Yeah and obvisoully you know more about what fits Cloud and Sephiroth than the actual company that MADE Cloud and Sephiroth. I think it's completely logical for them to do this in 3D, seeing as the game was 3D.

I'm going to stay neutral about this untill more information is revealed such as:

1. Where it'll be released and when.
2. Who will be in it.
3. How those people look in it.
4. How much it'll cost.
5. What it will focus on. If it's going to be like FFX-2, and focusing on chicks going around changing cloths every battle, I'll be against it for sure.

alnykleo
09-27-2003, 10:44 PM
Originally posted by ChibInuYasha
Suppossedly, it was said at TGS that FFVII: AC isn't going to be a movie at all, it's some completely new consept and they just aren't sure how to delvier it yet. Hmm...


Yes, they said that it wasn't a game, and not a movie, but referred to it as "visual content", whatever that is.

Rand Al'Tor
09-27-2003, 11:14 PM
Zezipster has the right of it. I strongly suggest we reserve judgement until they've actually MADE the bloody film. (If indeed it is made) For cripe's sake, some people seem to positively DELIGHT in saying that the movie is gonna suck, and won't stop till everyone is convinced it's gonna suck, and everything Square produces these days is total and utter crap. Let's have some faith in our favourite Japanese gaming company here people! They made one movie that wasn't ideal and it failed. Yet it seems they may gather the courage to do it a second time. That's balls, right there. And they've done it wrong once, which means they have been able to learn some lessons. Besides, you don't even know if it's gonna be the same people working on it.

Meow
09-27-2003, 11:38 PM
Originally posted by Kenshin IV
...You're not honestly going to compare a Final Fantasy movie to Cowboy Bepop, are you?

Kenshin, don't make straw men out of my statements. What i said was that there's no reason to dismiss this movie simply on the grounds of its allegedly intended length, and then used a well known and well respected series to support my argument. i made no qualitative statements in the slightest, and to assume so in your response implies to me that you're merely looking to bash other members and stir up trouble.

Raurenu
09-28-2003, 01:07 AM
Geeze, I really don't know what to say about this.

I don't know what Square-Enix is thinking, honestly; ever since Squaresoft sold itself out to Enix, things have been going down hill looks wise. Is it just me or did all of this fanservice and sequel stuff started when Enix came into the picture?

Final Fantasy has made great, quality games. My personal favorites being 6-10. After looking at X-2, I didn't know what to think. I either thought that Tatsuya Nomora has been either kicked out of the designing business for Final Fantasy, or some really sexually frustrated man doodled them. The same goes for this Final Fantasy VII.

Sure it seems facinating to see our beloved characters in realistic 3D but I'm skeptical on how they're going to butcher their personalities. Final Fantasy, since even the first one, has never had a sequel to my knowledge. And now that Enix is here, they're turning all of our oldschool good games into [perhaps] fanservice movies or sequels. After seeing what they did to Yuna and Rikku, I'm a little skeptical on what they might do to VII's characters.

However, when people first showed Final Fantasy X-2's poster, a lot of people thought of it as a rumor or a hoax. It was pure Final Fantasy blasphemy to make a sequel, especially after years and years of making the Final Fantasies I-X without any of them relating to each other [exceptions being the Cid dynasty, Chocobos, Moogles, Summons and whatnot]. After finally confirming about FFX-2, I'm not surprised that Square-Enix's next move is to make a movie on Final Fantasy VII. The poster seems pretty realistic and an obvious mass money-making idea; since Square-Enix's greed seems to be a rather unsolvable problem, of course making one of the greatest hits of the gaming commuity a movie would surely roll in the dough.

Either way, to be on a more personal note ... Sephiroth looks like a girl. And didn't Cloud have an unusual glow to his eyes because of the Mako? Those eyes look pretty normal to me.

Edit: Mixed up some information. :rolleyes2

Kenshin IV
09-28-2003, 07:10 AM
Originally posted by ZeZipster
Yeah and obvisoully you know more about what fits Cloud and Sephiroth than the actual company that MADE Cloud and Sephiroth.
I guess I do.

And the original drawings were done in an anime style, not a realistic style. Take a look at Cloud's, Sephiroth's, and Aeris' hairdo and try to tell me those look even remotely realistic. The realistic renders don't fit the characters at all.

Big D
09-28-2003, 08:23 AM
Actually, the original designs by Yoshitaka Amano were less "anime-styled" than Tetsuya Nomura's renderings from the game itself.

I rather like the more-realistic designs that've been unveiled. It's nice to see what Cloud's hair would look like in the 'real world'.:)

I'm looking forward to the film. Even if it's relatively short, it still seems to have a lot of potential. A concise, hopefully dramatic story, showing a different side of the characters perhaps.

BG-57
09-28-2003, 02:27 PM
I think it looks promising from what I've seen. But even it is the worst movie ever made, even if it gets a rotten rating on the tomatometer, I'm still going to see it *once*. Sometimes a movie comes along like that and I feel this is one of them.

Breine
09-28-2003, 04:37 PM
Yeah, the movie seems like it's gonna be exciting. The old FF7 team is back together to make this movie, so it couldn't be THAT bad, right?

Well, at least I'm looking forward to it.

Kindo
09-28-2003, 04:53 PM
Sounds like Raurenu shares my exact views on this thing and the "new" Square in general. It has definitely been going downhill, in terms of quality, ever since they hooked up with Enix. They have completely abandoned their 'traditions'. Instead of realeasing one game every two-or-so years, with a lot of depth and thought-out characters etc... They are now mass-producing Final Fantasy products such as movies and games. Damn, X-2, XI, and XII started being worked upon about the same time. Quality is down... and our favourite music composer, Uematsu, has been under so much time-pressure, that he no longer has the time to compose an entire OST by himself. He has needed to take help by others, which means a severe slope in the unique music-experience FF has had so far. X-2's soundtrack makes me want to puke, and X and XI are not particularly well-made, in my opinion.

What annoys me the most is the fact that they're using sex to sell games now. I would expect no less from other companies, with games like DoA and such... But I never expected Square to sink to those levels. With X-2, I was proven wrong. I mean, where is the logic in having to be naked if you're a thief? It's so damn silly, and I can't believe what they did to Yuna, either. She's a priest, for Christ's sake! Not a damn leather-babe with blazing guns! "Lara Croft meets Britney Spears."

Making three games in one (maybe two) years and making sequels where the main difference is the dressing-style of the female characters, makes Square just another sell-out company.

PS: Yeah, Raurenu, thanks for pointing it out. I hadn't thought of that mako-glow in his eyes, before. I really wonder what happened to it...

Origin
09-28-2003, 05:38 PM
It has definitely been going downhill,

Square isnt exactly a good company. They just had a few golden years in the middle (ff6-9). So don't get suprised...
I'm still excited about the movie though.. it looks very nice.. I don't really care if the story is good or not. FF7's story was good, that's enough for me. Now I'm just excited to see the old gang in photo realistic graphics and with voices (lets hope the voices are good though =-/)
You people take it far too seriously. If it sucks so what? That doesn't change anything about FF7. This is a win/win situation for us consumers :greenie:

Shlup
09-29-2003, 04:28 AM
I'm glad this is happening because I'd rather watch the damn games then play 'em at this point and looking back on the old FFVII graphics makes me sad for they are ugly.

That is all.

CloudDragon
09-29-2003, 04:55 AM
I think a whole new game might have ruined FF7 for many people. From what things look like, this won't change much, but give some insight on some things maybe. It'll be interesting, thats for sure.

Civecimu
09-29-2003, 09:47 AM
TGS: One new movie of Final Fantasy VII: Advent Children (http://www.gameforms.com/news/?1016) << click the link!

Maxico
09-29-2003, 10:23 AM
jeez I was gonna talk about the little copywrite mark at the bottom and the little part saying character design by tetsuya nomura but you've already settled that so i have nothin' to contribute :cry: . dang

Loony BoB
09-29-2003, 11:14 AM
Originally posted by Civecimu
TGS: One new movie of Final Fantasy VII: Advent Children (http://www.gameforms.com/news/?1016) << click the link!
Well that definitely makes things interesting. I wonder if they're going to release that clip or not. I hope so. the video was nice but it's a poor quality and a poor angle.

Spatvark
09-29-2003, 02:41 PM
Just a few pics:

Cloud in a church (http://www.dengekionline.com/news/200309/29/img/n20030929_05_sqex01.jpg)
Sephiroth? (http://www.dengekionline.com/news/200309/29/img/n20030929_05_sqex02.jpg)
Cloud and someone fighting (A Turk maybe?) (http://www.dengekionline.com/news/200309/29/img/n20030929_05_sqex03.jpg)

Nakor TheBlue Rider
09-29-2003, 02:51 PM
that pritty much proves they are working on somthing FF7 related and also that this isnt just a big prank.

Loony BoB
09-29-2003, 03:15 PM
Okay, I just can't resist criticising. Cloud's arms are too scrawny (how does he lift that sword with those things?), he's too Japanese-based (I'm sorry, but when you use anime eyes and huge bulky people, Japanese people are bad models for the characters - God save Barret, he better not be Japanese based, too) and the amount of difference anime eyes compared to real eyes makes is really weird, particularly in Sephiroth's case. Otherwise it looks pretty cool.

DelightfulSpekkio442
09-29-2003, 03:46 PM
I'm not positive that's Sephiroth. Granted it looks just like him, but A) He's not wearing the same clothes. B) Not enough of him is shown that we can judge by anything other than his hair. C) We know the Mystery Man is somehow connected to Sephiroth, maybe he disguises himself as Sephiroth to try and freak Cloud out. Maybe to distract him from trying to save the world again or something.

~MJE~

Spatvark
09-29-2003, 04:41 PM
On a sidenote, the video has been removed from that site, but is now available on several bittorrents...

Loony BoB
09-29-2003, 06:11 PM
Originally posted by DelightfulSpekkio442
I'm not positive that's Sephiroth. Granted it looks just like him, but A) He's not wearing the same clothes. B) Not enough of him is shown that we can judge by anything other than his hair. C) We know the Mystery Man is somehow connected to Sephiroth, maybe he disguises himself as Sephiroth to try and freak Cloud out. Maybe to distract him from trying to save the world again or something.

~MJE~
http://www.dengekionline.com/news/200309/29/img/n20030929_05_sqex02.jpg
http://theblahblahroundtable.homestead.com/files/sephiroth1.jpg
I'm pretty sure that's mean to be Sephiroth.

Adrian Mutu
09-29-2003, 06:29 PM
First post. :)
For those of you who didn't get a chance to see it before it was taken off GameForms, here is another place who have it.
http://www.webpost.net/ad/adventchild/ren/tease.htm

I'm not the worlds biggest FFVII fan, but I'm actually really looking forward to this. If it was a game, I wouldn't be, FFX-2 looks bad enough, but how wrong can they go in an hour long DVD? As long as they don't do any real ridiculous twists that lower my opinion of the original in any way, then it should be a good watch.

Mikztsu
09-29-2003, 07:16 PM
I personally love the way the characters looks like. And Cloud's arms were just as scrawny in the FF7 ( especially in FMV's), so it won't bother me.;) Thanks for the link, Mutu.

EDIT: doesn't work for me.:\

Adrian Mutu
09-29-2003, 07:31 PM
Originally posted by Here Comes Big Mik
I personally love the way the characters looks like. And Cloud's arms were just as scrawny in the FF7 ( especially in FMV's), so it won't bother me.;) Thanks for the link, Mutu.

EDIT: doesn't work for me.:\

Looks like word got around about the site having the link and now its bandwidth has been exceeded. Try later, it may be back in a few hours.

remi07
09-29-2003, 10:35 PM
Even if this is true it's probably gonna be like two years before it comes to America. But who knows. I'm still praying it's really going to be a movie or a game.

§håd0w
09-29-2003, 10:38 PM
The movie won't come to America. FFX's movie didn't, so I highly doubt FFVII: The Advent Children, will come either.

Meow
09-29-2003, 11:19 PM
FFX had a movie? Do tell.

§håd0w
09-29-2003, 11:37 PM
It was pretty much all the FMVs thrown together with some extra footage. Wasn't that great, you didn't miss much.

Cloudane
09-29-2003, 11:49 PM
Not that I have any figures to prove it, but surely FF7 was far more popular than FFX. It shook the world!

Therefore I'd say there's every chance of an English version even if the FFX video didn't have one. Especially if we all yell loud enough at SquareEnix :)

§håd0w
09-30-2003, 12:06 AM
Oh yeah, it was much better. But the chances of it coming out in America (seeing as how both of Square's CG movies blew) are slim.

Big D
09-30-2003, 12:13 AM
I wouldn't be so sure. Lots of obscure anime makes it into specialist stores outside Japan, even down here in New Zealand. An FFVII movie is a much more "mainstream" idea, so its release might be inevitable. The FFX DVD, on the other hand, sounds like it was just a gimmicky recording of the in-game FMVs with a little bit of extra stuff tacked on, not something that'd be a huge success anyway.

§håd0w
09-30-2003, 12:23 AM
That's true, and besides, it was only a recap of the game. This is gonna be a 'sequel' and I'm quite sure how it's gonna work.

Kindo
09-30-2003, 01:12 AM
Let's just keep our fingers crossed...

§håd0w
09-30-2003, 01:24 AM
I'm gonna buy it even if it's in Japanesse. I know what their saying. But I'm still not completely fluent.

CloudS_1
09-30-2003, 02:21 AM
There is going to be a movie and a game. The game will feature the return of Cloud, Sephiroth, and Aerith.

Pg 36 (bottom) GMR

Raurenu
09-30-2003, 03:12 AM
Well, even if the characters might be slaughtered personality wise, I have to admit I'm excited about it as well.

As far as my opinion goes if the movie comes here or not, I think it will. Final Fantasy: The Spirits Within did. So, I believe that if Square-Enix has even an ounce of brain they would sell it internationally. I mean, hey - since they're mass-producing these games like some kind of industrial product instead of a well-thought out art, why not go for the big bucks and sell it across the globe? It'd get them the cash they want so badly, even if it does poorly.

And my wonders on this movie: is Aerith coming back? Someone said that she was, but I haven't seen any place that clarified she was coming back. It would be AWESOME to see her hair realistically, so I could at least attempt it a bit. Someone also mentioned the Asian look - I guess they have it because of their Asian movement actors (don't know the term on the top of my head). The skinny arms DO somehow defy the laws of physics, but then again they allow magic in the world. So, scientifically speaking here, if it allows something like magic then it probably would have a different kind of gravity law on that planet than ours.

And they DO have a distinctive Asian look to them. Then again, ever since FFX they seemed to have an Asian look to all of them. I hope they do NOT give a Japanese looking Barrett. Good god, that's a frightening (though amusing) thought. A Japanese looking Mr. T. I do hope that Cid and Barrett do return, noting that they were the comedy reliefs in the game. I also hope they have really funny moments like they did in the game, too. Like the cross dressing, for example. That would be hysterical. And even if they don't, I've had my fill - I saw what Sephiroth would look like realistically, so now I can go searching for my dream man finally. :love:

I know, I'm pathetic. :eep:

prince leon
09-30-2003, 03:56 AM
Funny thing is it seems like Cloud is the only survivor of the day Meteor almost fell.

Sephiroth13
09-30-2003, 06:23 AM
Is it just me, or does Sephiroth look rediculous in that picture which is the Nibelheim flashback I guess. He just looks so bad, not like I would have imagined a realistic sephiroth looking. He looks so girly, and he doesnt have the green eyes, and the hair is wrong. O well, Im still pretty excited about it. I just started a new game on FF7 too, still as fun as ever. I would still like a remake or something, I just feel like I nee something more...more than the game itself.

hydan
09-30-2003, 06:58 AM
since the hidden camera sample of the movie has been taken off from here (http://www.gameforms.com/news/?1016) is there another source for it or is there another one. I got it already and drooled all over my carpet and walls but a good friend of mine wants and i can't send it in email.
If there is another source for it, please tell me.
Of course if there another one i'd like to see that too.

Civecimu
09-30-2003, 07:57 AM
3 stills! (http://www.gameforms.com/games/films/ff7ac/media/media4/)

EDIT: More stills/TGS trailer. (http://www.squarenet.info/main.php?site=sn-news&id=616)

EDIT2: My stills. (http://www.geocities.com/civecimu/finalfantasyvii)

Loony BoB
09-30-2003, 11:39 AM
The fact that he doesn't have green eyes is like putting a typo in someone's name for an entire movie. Like call Cloud Clout, or something. You can't not have the green eyes!

He still look pretty cool, though, imho. I like it. I don't think the large green eyes would have been realistically possible. That's anime, not reality. But that's why I don't like the Japanese-ness of it all - it's really annoying how they have massive eyes and no other noticeable characteristics on their faces in the game, so your mind thinks of them like that - and then they put in Japanese characters and the faces look all weird. I know they're targeting the Japanese market before anything else, but it's still kind of annoying how they flip from one extreme to the other.

Adrian Mutu
09-30-2003, 11:59 AM
From what I hear, someone had the full 2 minute+ trailer, and uploaded it. I saw that on the Gamefaqs.com FFVII messaggeboard, but when I tried the site it said the users account had been banned.
The guy fighting Cloud isn't Sephiorth though, as we can guess. Some have said Rufus, while others have suggestes that the man Cloud is fighting is actually Jenvoa, seeing how she can take the form of whatever she wants. From what they understand, the guy has some relation to Sephiroth, hence the sword, same hair colour, and One Winged Angel playing the background.

If anyone gets any news on new trailers then let us know straight away, rumour has it that Square will release the trailer to the public soon in its proper quality. I think the only one available still is the 5mb 20 second one, which I have saved by the way, if anyone wants it, not sure how I'd get it to ya though.

Loony BoB
09-30-2003, 12:32 PM
Maybe Sephiroth didn't really die, but actually got his hair cut short by Cloud in the final battle. It'd all make so much sense.

Adrian Mutu
09-30-2003, 12:39 PM
Originally posted by Loony BoB
Maybe Sephiroth didn't really die, but actually got his hair cut short by Cloud in the final battle. It'd all make so much sense.

Heh, heres something I read a little while ago on the GameFaqs messageboard, after seeing the whole trailer which I can't actually find:
The short haired one isn't Sephiroth. The Mystery man bows down infront of a man with long, white/silver hair who is in a wheel chair. That must be Sephiroth?

Well, I guess its fun being puzzled about it. :mad:

Kindo
09-30-2003, 11:14 PM
Well, I finally managed to find the full teaser-trailer (http://ff7-2.com/videos.php) of the movie. And I gotta say... WOOHOO! It looks awesome! Especially the motorcycle scene, ooh boy! I love it! :D

Thanks goes to the guys (http://ff7-2.com) who uploaded it. If you still haven't, you should check it out while it's still there. It's definitely worth it.

§håd0w
09-30-2003, 11:33 PM
This is quite possibly the most posts I've seen in a course of 4 or 5 days

Adrian Mutu
10-01-2003, 12:09 AM
Hell yeah, everyone, you HAVE to watch the full trailer, its amazing and I'm very intruiged. Heres a description if you don't want to download the 43MB file like I did.

Don't read if you don't want it spoiled or anything.

We start off with the words "This is not for playing", and a short clip of the lifestream from the end of FFVII. "Two Years later".
Cloud is speeding a long on the motorbike. Did you watch the last trailer? The guy with silver hair, who is not Sephiroth but rather someone supposedly related to him, is shooting spells at Cloud from like 100 meters away, and Cloud is dodging on his bike. An explosion sends the bike with Cloud into the air, and the mystery man catches with a sword swipe. Cut to Cloud walking through Aeris' chruch, stops to zoom in on him in his good graphical ways. Then we go to the fight seen in the first trailer, where Cloud and the mystery man exchange a few blows. Clouds buster sword is so darn wide!

Then we see Cloud surrounded by mirky, baron land, like Midgar but worse. Cloud hits his sword into the ground and says something in Japanese as the camera pans around. Remember, some of the world has apparently gone from this disease thingy.
Now we see the best of all. We see a figure in a wheel chair, concealed under a hood. The mystery man walks in and bows on his knee's before the hooded man. We see the flash back of when Sephiroth sets fire to Clouds home, Nibelheim, but only this time its with the great FMV graphics. Sephiroth looks a little weird, maybe girly but not too bad. Perhaps this confirms that the hooded figure is Seph, or, if not him, Jenova maybe.
End of trailer, coming Summer 2004. :)

Looks good, shame we have to wait so long, but I'm very interested in certain things. It suprises me actually, FFVII has always been quite meh with me, but I'm excited about this.

ChibiInuYasha
10-01-2003, 01:19 AM
I always try to remain faithful in everything Square does but if it turns out Sephiroth survived I'll be pissed :hot: Unless they have damn good reason for him being alive. Now Jenova would be understandable.
As for the mystery man aka. SephiPoser. Could it be that since Sephiroth returned to The Planet, he infected the life stream and is able to possess or "reincarnate" himself into others at his own will? Isn't that what the Lifestream is all about, being reborn? Or is just another puppet that we havn't heard about? Time will tell but like I say, it better be good!

Kindo
10-01-2003, 05:38 AM
Yeah... lots of mysteries. And I agree that IF Sephiroth returns, it better be a damn good story behind it. But I guess it doesn't matter, the game will always remain awesome. :)

Still haven't got the trailer? Well, looky here then: http://www.ff7-2.com/videos.php

Wrexsoul
10-01-2003, 04:27 PM
Ugh.... don't think I'm so excited about this as I was a couple days ago. They're making it sound as if everybody else kicked the bucket! When I envisioned what would happen after Meteor, it wouldn't be that EVERYBODY DIED. It's like they're pullin' a TSW, what with killing off all the characters except the protagonist!!! :cry:

I'm just not nearly interested to see it if it's only going to center around an isolated Cloud and a miraculously revived Sephiroth, or.... whatever.

oh... I just thought of Nanaki. But now I'm only more confused. Couldn't he at least make a cameo??

Kindo
10-01-2003, 05:01 PM
Er, from what I've heard, we'll be seeing all of the characters in this movie. Where did you hear that everyone is dead?

Adrian Mutu
10-01-2003, 05:18 PM
The magazine article made it sound that way, I think, it said Cloud had been battling on alone while many were falling victim to the illness, I haven't really thought about it but it could mean no-one else is there. But Nanaki, was he in the credits bit at the end of the game or was it just his general tribe? I hope Cid and Vincent are in it, those guys are great.

Civecimu
10-01-2003, 05:41 PM
More Final Fantasy VII: Advent Children Details (http://www.rpgfan.com/news/2003/2004.html)

Kindo
10-01-2003, 06:29 PM
Just because lots of people are dying from the Star-Scar Syndrome, doesn't mean that those PC's from FF7 died. I'm really really really hoping Vincent will be in it. Yum yum!

Wrexsoul
10-01-2003, 10:27 PM
Ohhhh..... my bad, then. I was starting to worry because the only characters shown in the trailer and such were Cloud and Sephiroth, and in the few places I read up on it, they seemed to imply that Cloud was the only survivor. After reading the little RPGfan article, though, I feel better now. :)

I'd love to see Vincent in all his CG glory, too.....

Kindo
10-01-2003, 11:05 PM
Yeah, no worries. Noone knows for sure yet. Damn... Vincent. *drools*

zacks_clone
10-02-2003, 02:07 AM
Ohhh,vincent would be great.:love:


I dont think square would do that.I think all the characters are still living,or most,but just...perhaps not playing a major role.Perhaps not even mentioned(though i dought that).

Kindo
10-02-2003, 09:03 AM
Cameos are always popular, so I'm quite sure we'll see all of the more known characters appear, atleast. Not in a major part, like you said, but atleast show their face and drop a comment or so.

eternalshiva
10-03-2003, 05:19 PM
well, the preview says in ENGLISH that it is coming in summer of 2004. Does that mean that it will also be available with an english soundtrack, like anime?

Female Ryuichi
10-03-2003, 08:44 PM
http://www.dengekionline.com/news/200309/29/img/n20030929_05_sqex02.jpg
Doesn't Sephy look a bit like Kefka in this shot? Or it is just me? :tongue:

Liquid Glass
10-03-2003, 09:28 PM
I was all excited until you guys brought me down. oh well, I still say this is gonna rock, I just hope it comes to the US. The one link said "Coming summer 2004 to JAPAN" :( Sephiroth looks..wrong. But then again as someone said that the Anime style way the characters were made in FF7 burned into our brains.

(jenova=sephiroth=girly look=maybe we all had it wrong..back in nibeliheim...)

ITs..gonna...rock.........

ShadyMilkman
10-03-2003, 09:43 PM
When I first saw this on Gamefaqs.com I was really excited. Now, I'm disappointed and pissed. The more I see of it, the more I despise the whole thing.

Kindo
10-03-2003, 09:55 PM
How come? I'm pretty excited. And like some wise person said before; no matter how the movie turns out, FF7 will always remain the same.

Cloudane
10-04-2003, 12:59 AM
Yeah, Sephy does seem to have the Kefka "lots of makeup" look.

I mean, what's with the eye shadow and stuff? These characters aren't played by real actors, they don't need it!

The Amano style seems to come across.

Big D
10-04-2003, 09:43 AM
Hmm. Lots of complaints about Sephiroth's eyes, however their green colour is quite plainly visible in that 'Nibelheim' picture, at least to me. Cloud's eyes mightn't be shiny luniescent blue, but then the game only ever suggested that they're an unusualy bright or sparkly shade of blue. Besides, Cloud got his eye colour from exposure to Mako energy; with the Lifestream possibly in remission or nearly exhausted, that might've affected him in some way. Anyhow...

Dang... the more I hear, the more excited I get. Can't wait for this film. Well of course I can wait, since there's no other choice, but really the whole idea is quite splendid. The new designs are creative and lifelike, but still true to the original. Nice to see clips from FFVII's ending, and the remains of Midgar City left behind in Meteor's destructive wake.

OK, seems like more information on Advent Children is rolling in, so I think it's time to start marking spoilers. If you're posting something which might spoil the plot of Advent Children in some way, please surround the text with the [spoil</>er]~text goes here~[/spoi</>ler] tags to hide it.:)

Also... I'm going to Sticky this thread, just because this is a big deal and also because there are hardly ever "important" threads in the Final Fantasy forums.;)

Kindo
10-04-2003, 12:53 PM
In the game, both Seph and Cloud had greenish-glowing eyes because of the mako thing... in the movie, the glow has mysteriously disappeared. <.<

§håd0w
10-04-2003, 01:06 PM
Originally posted by eternalshiva
well, the preview says in ENGLISH that it is coming in summer of 2004. Does that mean that it will also be available with an english soundtrack, like anime?

Nah, Japanesse language doesn't have certain characters, so they're are listed in English. But why the date was listed in English I dunno. But It'll prolly come out at least 6 months after the JPN version.

BG-57
10-04-2003, 02:09 PM
Also Japanese ads typically include English text, often with little relevance to the product being sold. Kind of the way English language ads include French to sound classy.

I sure hope if they do an English translation, they pick Denis Leary to do Cid's voice. ;)

§håd0w
10-04-2003, 02:30 PM
Yeah, but after watching the trailer (just downlaoded it), nothing else was in JPN. So it might come out then. I dunno, but it's still a long ass time to wait regardless when it comes out.

Advent Child
10-05-2003, 04:10 AM
Originally posted by lj
i'm bored of the FFVII characters. this isn't going to be very good. that's not to say I won't see it.
Okay now i'm hyped.

yunie
10-05-2003, 11:48 AM
hmn...
i'm wondering if the movie will be in japanese language or english language... well.. i dont mind if they're in japanese with english subs... most importantly i hope they have a good subs... hehe

Tidus Andronicus
10-05-2003, 12:02 PM
I found a few screen shots at IGN.
I think this looks awesome, and I'd buy it.
Japanese or english is fine with me.

FFVII Movie Screen Shots (http://mediaviewer.ign.com/ignMediaPage.jsp?channel_id=70&object_id=608155&adtag=network=ign&site=ps2&genre=other&object1=608155&object2=546688&pagetype=medialist&page_title=Final+Fantasy+VII%3A+Advent+Screenshots)

katana
10-05-2003, 03:35 PM
Saw the trailer and apparently Sephiroth is back. So...WTF?

FFGreenery
10-05-2003, 06:17 PM
In the trailer would anyone have an idea who the person in the wheel chair, dressed up all in white?
Sephiroth bow and take his/her hand....
I thought it could be a few people.... now these are just ideas.
The Real Sephiroth
Jenova
Zach(doubtful)
Aeris(doubtful)

If you think it could be anyone else plz post it :P

§håd0w
10-05-2003, 06:29 PM
The short haired "Sephiroth" is known as mystery man right now, he could be related to Sephiroth, but it's not him. The person in the wheel chair is unknown. No info has been released on him/her yet. It could be Seph, yet it could also be his mother or someone else.

Kindo
10-05-2003, 07:56 PM
It could be Seph, yet it could also be his mother or someone else.
I really doubt it's either Lucrecia or Jenova...

§håd0w
10-05-2003, 08:24 PM
The Seph lookalike. Not Seph himself

Zell's Fists of Fury
10-05-2003, 10:30 PM
OMG!!!1 do u tink tey will revive arieth>??!!

But seriously, folks. I can't wait to see Tifa's boobs in full CG gloy.

§håd0w
10-05-2003, 10:40 PM
Originally posted by Spaceman Spiff
OMG!!!1 do u tink tey will revive arieth>??!!


She's dead... get over it. She rotting away in the bottom of a lake in the Forgotten Capital.

Big D
10-06-2003, 12:17 AM
Spiff was kidding, ya know.

Wheelchair Man... he could be a totally new character, but then he could be someone we already know - someone who was injured or apparently killed in the original game, perhaps Rufus, or Scarlet, or maybe even Sephiroth himself. We shall see...
It seems that the movie's going to be voiced in Japanese, but an English translation is likely. Actually, we're kind of counting on it. So, what would everyone prefer - dubbed English voice-overs or subtitles?

FFGreenery
10-06-2003, 12:50 AM
dubbed english voice-overs

§håd0w
10-06-2003, 12:52 AM
Dubbed. Then I can actually watch the movie and not read.

ZeZipster
10-06-2003, 12:53 AM
Originally posted by Big D
Spiff was kidding, ya know.

Wheelchair Man... he could be a totally new character, but then he could be someone we already know - someone who was injured or apparently killed in the original game, perhaps Rufus, or Scarlet, or maybe even Sephiroth himself. We shall see...
It seems that the movie's going to be voiced in Japanese, but an English translation is likely. Actually, we're kind of counting on it. So, what would everyone prefer - dubbed English voice-overs or subtitles?


Subtitles. I'd also like it if they didn't add in Japanese voices. That's how FF7 was done, text only.

Big D
10-06-2003, 01:01 AM
A movie with subtitles only would be weird. Especially fight scenes. Weapons clash, magic roars, monsters screech, but from the characters all we get are subtitles saying "Ugh!" "Aaargh!" and "Die, scum, die!"

I'd prefer to have voice-actors, even though they'd differ from many people's preconceptions.

Erdrick Holmes
10-06-2003, 02:23 AM
I can tell that if thety dubbed it then it would look like crap, I hope they ony subtitle it. Oh is the US release date for the US in 2004?

yunie
10-06-2003, 09:50 AM
there'll be a total of 20 characters in the movie so lets hope for the best!!! well... i just keep on thinking that the short hair guy is seph incarnation and he's back for revenge.... the theme for the movie is save the children... so maybe... i dunno....>.<

BG-57
10-06-2003, 01:10 PM
I'd prefer both subs and dubs actually. Most anime DVD's have the audio options of the original Japanese and English tracks with English subtitles that can be turned off.

I watch in Japanese with the subtitles to get an idea of the original version and English to get a more viceral reaction. So for a big screen theater version I'd go with dubbing.

Anyone know the DVD audio options for FF: TSW?

eternalshiva
10-06-2003, 01:17 PM
That's what I already asked... but because it is a work in progress, we don;t know the options yet >.< ACK

Nakor TheBlue Rider
10-06-2003, 01:51 PM
Spaceman Spiff:
But seriously, folks. I can't wait to see Tifa's boobs in full CG gloy.

I hadn't even thought of that......Till now.......

I would like Dubbed but on the DVD have the option to watch it in Japanese with SubTitles.

Then Somtimes I can Read but if I don't feel like reading I can Watch it Dubbed.

Kindo
10-06-2003, 03:30 PM
TSW was made with English audio from the start. A pity they won't do the same with Advent Children (http://ff7-2.com).

Enos Shenk
10-06-2003, 10:12 PM
Hm just registered here.

Anyway, ive seen the trailer now (God bless bittorrent) and its interesting. Ill buy it of course when it comes out, but i think that if the movie is only 10% done square needs to go back and fix a few things.

Firstly, sephiroth looks like a wife beater or some other unsavory petty criminal in that flashback shot. I mean, its just not the same without the glowing eyes and the zero-gravity bangs. Not to mention my big complaint with it, his hair. What happened to the badass silver? Now its dirty stringy gray. Seriously he looks like an old dirty crook. Although i do like the very Kefka-esque grin.

Cloud suffers the same hair problem. Its toooooooooo yelllooowwwww. Seriously, i thought his head was the sun the first time i saw it. The way i see it, he just looks like a cosplayer at a con.

The animation is fantastic though. The mystery-sephiroth-or-not-sephiroth fights like Vicious in coyboy bebop.

I believe the realistic style destracts from it though. It seems to me it would have been a little better with at least some of the distorted style like the psuedo-realistic cinematics in the game.

A long time ago some friends and i used to amuse ourselves by trying to think of suitable real-world actors to play ff7 characters. We revised out little list as we went for fun. My 2 favorite choices were Joaquin Pheonix for Sephiroth. The first time i watched Gladiator in the theater, the scene where his father tells him that he wont be emperor, the first thing i thought was "That dude really looks like Seph"

And that guy that played Col. Tavington in the Patriot as Tseng. (He also plays malfoy's dad in the harry potter movies). He just looks like Tseng in the Patriot.

Anyway now that ive rambled on for this long....

Cloudane
10-06-2003, 11:33 PM
IMO this "Mystery Man" is no mystery at all.

Remember Jenova's hairstyle in the FMV of Sephiroth at Nibelheim? And wasn't it a similar colour? There are differences I'm sure, but then the same can be said for Sephiroth.

Think also that Jenova first appeared as a man. (many of these facts are in the plot analysis at gamefaqs) - there's no reason it shouldn't reappear as a man this time round.

Combine this with the various conclusions people have drawn that Jenova was the real villain, and its practical immortality, and you start to wonder....

Consider also this "Star scar syndrome". Is it really revenge against mankind from the planet, or some kind of random disease - or is another sign that Jenova is still alive? Could it be the same disease that Jenova already used in the past to wipe out most of the Cetra?

Now, Barrett, Tifa and co - I reluctantly came to the same conclusion that some others came to.... Cloud is the sole survivor, except maybe for Nanaki (we do see him 500 years later after all).
This was from reading this excellent and seemingly well verified information source:
http://www.webpost.net/ad/adventchild/ren/why.htm
Quote in particular is:
"The Japanese teaser says 'Cloud—who fought alone because the world refused others to live—lived a lonely life'"
That sounds to me like the others died. It does make sense, as why would he suddenly go alone and cut himself off from the others? Surely they'd all be together from the bond created in the game.
The reason of his survival would be because of the Jenova cells. As Lucrecia and I think a few others said in the game, Jenova cells make it more difficult for a person to die even if they want to.

Sephiroth IMO is probably just in flashbacks. Though perhaps if he did come back, he'd have undergone a similar "finding himself" experience as Cloud and turned out a good guy, no longer under Jenova's influence. Perhaps if he's alive, he'll join Cloud? (pure speculation here, I'm just remembering how they handled Edea in FF8 and Kuja in FF9).

Some have speculated over whose grave Cloud is visiting. I think it's clearly Zack's.
a) Cloud took the Buster Sword from Zack when he died. You start the game shortly after his arrival at Midgar, with the same weapon.
b) You can never sell the Buster Sword. Perhaps because it has sentimental value as a memory of Cloud's deceased best friend.
c) (Speculation) Cloud returns to a place that looks remarkably similar to the mini-cliff/hill in the Zack/Cloud flashback -hint hint- and returns the sword to its rightful place as a symbol of its weilder's death. (As someone said in another thread, and I see no reason to disbelieve it, a sword sticking out of the ground symbolises a death in Asian culture)
d) (Spec) The quote of "can't forgive himself, but wants to forgive himself" - I imagine this is over his confused 'takeover' of Zack's memories, and how such confusion helped Sephiroth/Jenova to control him and make him hand over the Black Materia that caused all this. He feels as if it's all because of his weakness in the past, of his desire to stand out and be noticed by Tifa - who he also (by my previous speculations) lost in the Meteor/Holy incident.

Just my 2p :p

Flying Mullet
10-06-2003, 11:54 PM
Sorry, but I'm lazy and don't want to read through seven pages of posts for the answer to this question if it's there.

Has anything been posted saying that the movie isn't a live action version of FFVII(the game itself)?

§håd0w
10-06-2003, 11:54 PM
IMHO... How could it be Sephiroth when we saw him explode at the end of the final battle?

BG-57
10-06-2003, 11:55 PM
Jason Isaacs plays Lucius Malfoy and Colonel Tavington. He plays great villains, but you haven't seen his range unless you see him in 'Passionada'.

Nobody said it was going to be live action. I was discussing potential English voice actors.

Liquid Glass
10-07-2003, 12:09 AM
Maybe the guy in the wheel chair is indeed Sephiroth. And the "sephiroth" bowing down to him is really jenova... Maybe....

Oh btw I would like dubbed please.

§håd0w
10-07-2003, 12:12 AM
Jenova was a female though. But Jenova could be manipulating another soul.

Kindo
10-07-2003, 12:16 AM
Jenova had the ability to assume any physical form she pleased.


Has anything been posted saying that the movie isn't a live action version of FFVII(the game itself)?
Not quite sure what you mean, but you asking if the movie is just a movie version of the actual game? If so... no. The movie is a sequel to FF7, two years after the game ends. Which means the scene at the end when you see RedXIII with kids has not happened yet.

FFboy4ever
10-07-2003, 12:40 AM
hey...who if anybody can get me a ffVII-2?: Advent Children trailor trailer. that wont' take like 4 hours to download...*stupid phone connection setup thing*:mad:

when does this movie come out in the U.S. even though i'm getting less "excited" about it..it seems like eveyone has died...it sucks...not vincent..or cid...or yuffie!!:eek: does anyone know of the cast yet???

ShadyMilkman
10-07-2003, 12:44 AM
I believe you mean FFVII: Advent Children.. ffv means 5

FFboy4ever
10-07-2003, 12:50 AM
oops-e:o i musta been writing too fast to think:D lol

Advent Child
10-07-2003, 02:00 AM
Originally posted by The Dude
Has anything been posted saying that the movie isn't a live action version of FFVII(the game itself)?
Computer-animated sequel.

Liquid Glass
10-07-2003, 02:08 AM
You guys sorta killed my hype.. Shame on you. hehe, I still think its gonna rock, Im downloading the full trailer right now, only 1 hour and 10 minutes left....

yeah the guy in the wheelchair=sephiroth, and the guy bowing to him, jenova in sephiroths form. So maybe sephiroth WASNT resurrected..just barely holding out though....
.
who knows? BTW I like your sig Lj, or Advent Child

Advent Child
10-07-2003, 02:11 AM
thanks, my forum theme is all ready for the movie release.

anyways my first geuss was to agree with glass. but yeah i'd rather be surprised.

ChibiInuYasha
10-07-2003, 02:58 AM
Ok, is it just me or in this shot, does the character's shoes look alot like Tifa's O.o

Advent Child
10-07-2003, 03:07 AM
I cannot BELIEVE that you're serious. If you are, than you should be banned from ever analyzing screenshots again. You see a slight tint that would indicate that the shoes might be the same colour. Kind of.

Liquid Glass
10-07-2003, 03:19 AM
well, you never know...and I have finally accepted sephiroth's CG look, its not that bad once you look at if for a while, hehe. But yeah, Id rather be suprised too.

ChibiInuYasha
10-07-2003, 03:21 AM
You sir, are very rude. I was just saying what I thought, I think they look similair (Red with black soles) That is no reason to insult me. I'm just stating my opinion, since when is that a crime?

Advent Child
10-07-2003, 04:46 AM
I was just stating my opinion in regards to the quality of your screenshot analysis skills. The shoes are BLURRY with BLURRY soles.

SeanFThomas
10-07-2003, 07:35 AM
Don't mean to burst none of them there bubbles you dudes er sportin', but take a close look at the link the thread starter supported in the first post. Please note the little pirate dude flipping a double bird down in the bottom right. Suddenly the poster's authenticity deteriorates...

BUT!!! (here comes my big but)

(starts to squeal in girlish tone) Wouldn't that be just f#$%ing awesome if it's real?!?!?! (convulses in joy) I hope it is I hope it is I hope it is I hope it is I hope it is I hope it is I hope it is!!! I would seriously just ejaculate everywhere if it was real. And maybe it is! WHEEE!!!! Oh boy oh boy. I want it so much to be real...so much I could DIE. ....I've died.

Nakor TheBlue Rider
10-07-2003, 10:48 AM
Dude read all the posts.

Weve now seen Footage from E3..... That Confirms the movie Will be made.......at least in Japan.

P.S. HAHA at the Whole Shoe analysis thing.....

I seriosly Don't think thats Tifa....But thats just MY opinion. :D

Kindo
10-07-2003, 11:00 AM
'Twould be quite lame if it was...

Nakor TheBlue Rider
10-07-2003, 11:44 AM
I found it quite clear to see that the fire scene was a flashback.

The dude in a wheelchair is Sephy after FF7.....Who then recovers and Cuts his Hair. How can you not get that interpritation.

This whole movie makes perfect sense if you think about it.

We all know Jenovah Cells have Regenerative effects.

Obviosly Sephy wasnt killed but merly severly wounded in FF7 and has now healed. The human race was never destroyed (What are you on drugs? Who would think that square would kill off humans?) and Cloud must now find a way to truly kill sephy.


I dont get how everyone seemed to miss that while watching the movie...All this "Who's in the Wheelchair" and "Is that Sephiroth?"

Erdrick the Hero
10-07-2003, 03:40 PM
on the same lines as seph being wheel chair guy or WCG for short

since seph wasn't killed completely, meteor still came down. wasn't that the point of killing seph? if ya kill him the summon would just go away. but, after "killing" him, meteor still fell. so... WTF

Maxico
10-07-2003, 04:59 PM
have you noticed how clouds sword seems really tatty when he's over the supposed ruins of midgar, but it seems very shiny and new in the fight with the rikku, raiden, sephiroth look alike with short hair.

Oh and I might of just seen a bad quality video but could you see who was bowing down to the WCG. If not it could be cloud since that place looks alot like the church. It could be cloud visiting somebody (one of the main characters. proberly tifa since they were involved) who has succumbed to the star scar syndrome.

Kindo
10-07-2003, 05:56 PM
It's the Mystery Man bowing down to WCG.

Maxico
10-07-2003, 06:28 PM
dang. oh well heres the pic of the difference of swords for people who couldn't be bothered to download the movie (I have a narrowband 56.6k connection). what do you think could do that?

Big D
10-08-2003, 01:09 AM
Polish? Works wonders for tarnished metal.

...Anyway, about the other main characters... I doubt they're dead. Sure, Cloud's all alone, but then he went through countless traumatic experiences, got used for experiements and drugged for years, lost his family and friends, killed hundreds of people, then finally settled the score and saved the world. A bit too much pressure there, I think. It'd be enough to mess anyone up and turn them a bit antisocial.

Cloudane
10-08-2003, 01:14 AM
Spoilers ahead. Surely if anyone's read this far, they've already finished FF7 though!





Somewhere (can't remember where right now) I read that the 'shiny' sword you see is a new one that Cloud attains in the new movie. But don't forget, if the game is anything to go by, Cloud is *still* (somehow) carrying the original Buster Sword he started with. (You could never sell it, it made the 'neh-uh' noise)

I'm pretty sure that the 'tatty' sword is the Buster Sword, which we already know Cloud "inherited" from Zack when he was shot and taken to Midgar with him.

Shortly after that you pick up the storyline through the start of the game, were he's still using the same sword.

Remember you couldn't sell it.

In the 'tatty' scene, I think Cloud is finally returning the Buster Sword (now rather old) to the place it belongs - Zack's place of death. Note the surroundings, i.e. the mini 'cliff' - looks familiar from the Shinra Mansion flashback, don't you think? Or is it just me?

A sword sticking out of the ground symbolises its weilder's death in Japanese culture (or so I heard, don't take that as gospel) so this would make sense. He's paying respect to his best friend, a man he'd even ended up trying to imitate. Thoughts in his mind: had he never tried to imitate him, perhaps Sephiroth wouldn't have been able to exploit his schizophrenia and attain the Black Materia required to summon Meteor.

This would also (IMO) explain the 'I can't forgive myself; I want to be forgiven" line in its various translations. He's probably talking about immitating Zack and how it confused him enough to give Sephiroth the Black Materia and help facilitate the death of mankind. He wants to be forgiven by the Planet and its dying people for the terrible (and arguably Jenova-induced) mistake, but can't even forgive himself.

ShadyMilkman
10-08-2003, 01:40 AM
If we wana make such a big deal outta not being able to sell Cloud's sword cause it has sentimental value to him, then Barrett would have an attachment to his Gatling gun and Tifa to her uhhhh, whatever they were calleds... I really odn't think that had anything to do with not being able to sell the weapon. And I still despise this dang movie idea. Sephiroth witout awesome eyes or super-bangs and Cloud's hair non-spike-a-fied??? Say it isn't so!!! And the Buster Sword looks paper-thin!!!!!

Liquid Glass
10-08-2003, 02:21 AM
yeah, I downloaded the movie, and saved it, and in some scenes clouds hair looked very..short. Hopefully that will be fiixed or I'll accept it.

I never thought of Cloud having Schizophrenia...sorta adds to Cloud. hehe.

Advent Child
10-08-2003, 03:12 AM
his hair is shorter, and better =D

Big D
10-08-2003, 05:25 AM
Sephiroth witout awesome eyes or super-bangs and Cloud's hair non-spike-a-fied??? Say it isn't so!!! And the Buster Sword looks paper-thin!!!!!Sephiroth never had glowing eyes, they're just an odd shade of bright green, and they still are in the Advent Children screenshots. Same goes for Cloud's shiny blue eyes.

The Buster Sword still looks pretty huge to me. If it is any thinner, then that's just a concession for the sake of realism - his weapon would weigh roughly 90 pounds if it was as big as it is in the game, and that's pretty dang huge. Cloud's hair, too, is still quite spikey, just not 'solid' like it was in the game. Fear not.:)

Nakor TheBlue Rider
10-08-2003, 02:39 PM
What about all the times they mention that Sephiroth's/Cloud's eyes have "A Strange Glow"......

Thats a quote strait from the game......

eternalshiva
10-08-2003, 02:50 PM
They have the strange glow because of the injected Jenova cells.

Big D
10-08-2003, 10:56 PM
Actually, at least in Cloud's case, it's from exposure to Mako energy. As for it being a "glow", the colour is also described as a "glare", or simply bright. From the FMVs and in-game images, you can tell that their eyes aren't actually luminous.

§håd0w
10-08-2003, 11:00 PM
Originally posted by Advent Child
his hair is shorter, and better =D

Yea, I hated how he had one spike that just stuck out of one side of his head.

Nakor TheBlue Rider
10-09-2003, 08:25 AM
you hated Franky.....

He was the coolest spike of all....

Franky was soo great he just defied gravity and went striaght out from Clouds head.....


How could you hate franky?

yunie
10-09-2003, 09:00 AM
how does franky looks like...?

§håd0w
10-09-2003, 09:11 PM
I'm pretty sure that was sarcasm. There is no Franky.

Advent Child
10-09-2003, 11:23 PM
It's not sarcasm, he nicknamed the big spike.

§håd0w
10-10-2003, 01:13 AM
That's, umm... even worse.

ShadyMilkman
10-10-2003, 01:52 AM
GO FRANKY!!! GO FRANKY!!! IT'S YA BIRFDAY!!!!

Liquid Glass
10-10-2003, 03:11 AM
:D yeah.."the big one" is gone....

Maxico
10-10-2003, 04:43 PM
GONE but... what...

tis a dark dark day :cry:

twobitmage
10-10-2003, 09:55 PM
http://www.ff7ac.tk

probably been posted but here are some trailers

I might add that I enjoyed the music in the last video, Might get the soundtrack if it ever comes out

Big D
10-10-2003, 10:24 PM
Anyone know who's writing the score?
I'm hoping for Nobuo Uematsu, naturally.

IamTidus
10-10-2003, 10:54 PM
I have heard that it is him. But I am unsure.

twobitmage
10-11-2003, 12:24 AM
anyone know where I can dl the music?

Liquid Glass
10-11-2003, 03:59 AM
Minor spoilers, but nothing too bad.






After watching the trailer, non-bootlegged, in the other thread about 89 times, Ive concluding, that Cloud is wondering the earth after 2 years of the incident that destroyed Midgar. He's been blaming himself and convinced himself that all his friends are dead from the Star Scar syndrome. Alwhile Cloud has been doing this, Sephiroth was somehow saved, and being slowly restored by jenova, and the jenova cells, this would mean 1 of 2 things, That thats Sephiroth in the wheelchair and the other one is Jenova posing as sephiroth with cut hair and such to drive Cloud into confusion again so jenova can control her puppet once again, they are re-threading the strings into Cloud. Thats the first thing, the second is that that IS sephiroth going around and thats jenova recovering in the wheelchair, but Im going with the first one...for now. Time will tell....

twobitmage
10-11-2003, 08:54 AM
Originally posted by ShadyMilkman
When I first saw this on Gamefaqs.com I was really excited. Now, I'm disappointed and pissed. The more I see of it, the more I despise the whole thing.

I almost assure you if you watch the trailer you will change your mind. The pics are VERY unflattering


Originally posted by BG-57
I'd prefer both subs and dubs actually. Most anime DVD's have the audio options of the original Japanese and English tracks with English subtitles that can be turned off.

I watch in Japanese with the subtitles to get an idea of the original version and English to get a more viceral reaction. So for a big screen theater version I'd go with dubbing.

Anyone know the DVD audio options for FF: TSW?

that is the smartest thing I heard in this topic about dubbing

Kindo
10-11-2003, 07:28 PM
New trailer available at http://ff7-2.com

This one has sound, and better recording quality.

Liquid Glass
10-11-2003, 09:13 PM
Yes, As twobitmage said, if you watch the trailer, you will be reverted back to your-"holy-crap-this-is-gonna-rooooock!!!1!!"-self.

§håd0w
10-11-2003, 11:25 PM
Originally posted by Kindo
New trailer available at http://ff7-2.com

This one has sound, and better recording quality.

I was the one who sent it to them.

Kindo
10-12-2003, 12:32 AM
Well my my! Thank you, then. :)

§håd0w
10-12-2003, 01:06 AM
Sure thing. Lemme delete that extra post I made. *deletes*

Liquid Glass
10-12-2003, 03:00 AM
thats cool, I've been watching the trailer, about 40 times. *I swear I shall know japanese when its done* andI realized that the mystery man, can't be sephiroth, His fighting style is different, plus Isn't sephiroth left handed?

§håd0w
10-12-2003, 03:11 AM
Originally posted by Liquid Glass
thats cool, I've been watching the trailer, about 40 times. *I swear I shall know japanese when its done* andI realized that the mystery man, can't be sephiroth, His fighting style is different, plus Isn't sephiroth left handed?

Their fighting still is different, Sephiroth held his sword sideways by his head in the game, and was left handed. Mystery Man is fighting left handed, but his style is a lot different. But you gotta remember, in the game, there was a lot of standing around in battle. But it's not to say that Mystery Man is/isn't Sephiroth.

BTW... a mistake I've noticed. In the last scene where it shows the flashback of Sephiroth, he's holding his sword as if it were a taichi instead of a katana. In other words... His blade is faced down in the trailer, but in the game his blade is faced up. Huge mistake there as far as accuracy goes.

Erdrick the Hero
10-12-2003, 03:30 AM
ok... watched the trailer with sound a bunch of times.

it makes the mystery guy to be seph.

hows it about a off the wall idea.

Holy, trying to save the world, actually saved seph from death... along with aeris, for SHE is the WCG. yes i know... that would be crap cuz she died and whatnot. but think aobut it.

Holy is the ultimate white spell, whats in the white spell realm, life2. the reason that aeris is all covered, is cuz she has been rottin in the lake until cloud and gang got around to "killin" seph.

now i know what you are saying, "but Jon, why is she allowing seph to take care of her" good question. seph cut his hair so it is shorter. cuz the fishes have been eating away at little ole aeris, she can't see that well or comprehend what is going on.

the reason cloud is fighting seph or the mystery guy is cuz somehow cloud found out about aeris being alive in in this guys care. and he is like, "she tastes good" and then cloud goes crazy and they fight and then cloud has to convince aeris that it is he that is cloud and not seph... and then they fight somemore

cloud wins, unveils Jenova! what a bitch... and the world explodes along with my head *POP*

§håd0w
10-12-2003, 03:35 AM
I know that's sarcasm...

But we saw Sephiroth die at Nibelheim, and then the projection Jenova made we saw disintegrate into the Lifestream. Unless he was resurrected from the Makoi Crystal, then he's gone.

Erdrick the Hero
10-12-2003, 03:42 AM
thank you for picking up on it and not flaming me

anyway... all im saying is they make it seem like it is sephiroth when they have it fade from the guy kneeing next to the WCG and then fade basically face to face with Sephiroth in the burning fire.

i think they did that to show that it was him.

i agree that it is a cop out in a way it seems to bring him back.

but yet again, who knows, i COULD be right... or just mocking myself

Liquid Glass
10-12-2003, 07:04 AM
Yeah, After studing the trailer a bit more for his fighting stlye I realized that he was left-handed. Oops. That's a interesting idea Erdrick. Just one thing, why would Sephiroth be taking care of Aeris?

But remember he didn't "die" in Nibeliheium (sp) he was just throw into the lifestream, where later on you found he had been puked up by it in North Crater and incased in Mako, then when Cloud gave him the Black materia he awoke.

There never was solid proof that Jenova died, you just killed on of the versions....

FFGreenery
10-12-2003, 07:24 AM
When Cloud is riding his Bike, i am curious on how he lands it when the seph look alike shoots at him... :P

Kindo
10-12-2003, 10:34 AM
BTW... a mistake I've noticed. In the last scene where it shows the flashback of Sephiroth, he's holding his sword as if it were a taichi instead of a katana. In other words... His blade is faced down in the trailer, but in the game his blade is faced up. Huge mistake there as far as accuracy goes
Not sure what you're talking about... that the sword is pointing down? Yes, it's in relax position. And if you're talking about just the tip of the blade, I've just watched that and I'm sure it's pointing upwards.

twobitmage
10-12-2003, 10:47 AM
Originally posted by masamune1287
taichi instead of a katana

err he holds it like a grand ultimate fist?

§håd0w
10-12-2003, 01:02 PM
I'm telling you, the blade is facing a different direction.

A taichi was hung edge down from the obi (belt). When the blade is faced upwards, regardless of the size, it is known as a katana.

Kindo
10-12-2003, 01:17 PM
I don't see how depending on how you hold the blade when you're walking, determins what kind of weapon it is.