Any one need help?

[lonely]

Hey jes tell me what you need help with and I'll give you the best possible answers!

[TheSpoonyBard]

Which GF's should I junction to each party member? I've got them all, I just can't find a good combination that gives everyone all the Stat Junctions.

[lonely]

Here's a list of who get's what
Squall: Alexander, Bahamut, Eden

Zell: Ifrit, Pandemona, Brothers

Rinoa: Shiva, Doom train

Quistis: Carbuncle, Cerberus, Diablos

Irvine:Quezacotle, Tonberry, Cactaur

Selphie:Siren, Leviathan
I hope that helps!

[TheSpoonyBard]

Not really. I only ever use 3 characters, because that's all you're allowed to use (except for the final battle, but I'm not up to that point yet.)

[lonely]

Don't you ever change your characters?

[TheSpoonyBard]

Yea, occasionally, but then I just switch all the GFs and magics onto the new character.

[lonely]

You shouldn't do that because then none of your other Gf's that you ain't using won't get any EXP so I advise you to try and share your GF's and magic around your characters as best you can!

[TheSpoonyBard]

At the moment I have my GFs junctioned like this

1. Squall
GF: shiva, diablos, pandemona, doomtrain, bahamut, eden

2. Rinoa
GF:Quetzacoatl, Siren, cerberus, alexander, cactuar

3. Selphie
GF: Ifrit, brothers, carbuncle, leviathan, tonberry

and was just wondering if there is a better way I could do it.

[PhoenixAsh]

*Is suspiscious of lonely's junctioning style*

Darkness given you have all the GFs I'm assuming you know how to junction pretty well so I won't try and say a lot other than that unless you're just going for a perfect save (which I think is impossible without using items, and possibly Chocobo World) then junction for your needs. In particular for giving characters the bonus stats, or for dividing abilities such as Card and Eat etc. between characters.

[lonely]

Well Darkness you can keep them the way they are if your happy with them being in that order, and you have junctioned all your Gf's between three people, you could leave them the way they are, but I'm assuming that your near the end, and if you are then take my word for it and junction at least one GF to all your characters, coz you never know what Ultimecia might pull out of her sleeves!

[Mo-Nercy]

Originally posted by lonely
...but I'm assuming that your near the end, and if you are then take my word for it and junction at least one GF to all your characters, coz you never know what Ultimecia might pull out of her sleeves!
True. Once Ultimecia knocks out one of your peeps. It's replaced by another peep. lonely is saying that you should evenly spread out your GF junctioning so every character is prepared for the final battle. It sounds good I guess, but personally I would rather have 3 characters packed with GF and loads of junctioned stat bonuses than 6 semi-strengthed characters. That's just me though.

[PhoenixAsh]

I think it's pretty standard to pack all your GFs on three characters, even against Ulti. I guess maybe giving one or two to your none main party might be an idea, but it sounds a bit pointless.
If your going that far for ultimate party I'd be aiming to not need junctions for having strong characters.

[Arthurdent_78]

OK, so in many other FF games, there's a way to change the background color of the menu screen, battle stats screen, etc. Maybe I'm stupid and just looked over the config option, but can it be changed from that grey color?

[Mo-Nercy]

Originally posted by Arthurdent_78
OK, so in many other FF games, there's a way to change the background color of the menu screen, battle stats screen, etc. Maybe I'm stupid and just looked over the config option, but can it be changed from that grey color?
Nope. Just put on colour sunglasses anytime you enter the menu screen.

[lonely]

Hey, Al Bhed, your right when it comes to her killing someone and bringing another person back, but that's not what I meant. I meant, that, say you go to her castle and you've picked Squall, Selphie and Rinoa and you have junctioned ALL your magic and Gf's to them, and say that your other characters are at low levels coz you ain't trained them, they have no magic and no GF's, so you've gone into her castle, what does she do, she RANDOMLY pics 3 of your people to fight her, say she pics the 3 people with low levels and who have no magic at all and not even one GF to back them up, what do you do?

[PhoenixAsh]

Curse fairly bad luck and hack away till a decent character arrives.

[selphie666]

Okay, can you help me with the Deep Sea Research place? I found it and I can't figure out what I'm supposed to do once I get there. Squall said to check out the core but Whenever I take a step forward I always have to fight something.

[Rostum]

Originally posted by lonely
Hey, Al Bhed, your right when it comes to her killing someone and bringing another person back, but that's not what I meant. I meant, that, say you go to her castle and you've picked Squall, Selphie and Rinoa and you have junctioned ALL your magic and Gf's to them, and say that your other characters are at low levels coz you ain't trained them, they have no magic and no GF's, so you've gone into her castle, what does she do, she RANDOMLY pics 3 of your people to fight her, say she pics the 3 people with low levels and who have no magic at all and not even one GF to back them up, what do you do?

You could just kill off the weakest member until you get the one you want, it doesn't take that long.

Or you could just reset the game and go in again and hope that all three are there, or at least 2 of them.

Sheesh, you don't need to be PERFECT in every game. :P

[Shockwave Pulsar]

Originally posted by selphie666
Okay, can you help me with the Deep Sea Research place? I found it and I can't figure out what I'm supposed to do once I get there. Squall said to check out the core but Whenever I take a step forward I always have to fight something.

Sorry about answering, i could not help it!

Check the blue light carefully, you must not move while the core is lit, otherwise you'll get a battle. walk slowly towards the core, once you are there talk to it and it will tell you this:
So you wish to challenge me...
- It's not our will to fight
It's your only option, so pick it. after this you will go into an inevitable battle against a ruby dragon, this things are powerfull you might aswell want to check your junction.
If you beat it it'll tell you this:
Begging me for mercy?
- Yeah...there's nothing I can do
- Never
Choose never and you'll go into another battle with another ruby dragon.
Beat it once again and you'll get this:
Damned imbeciles. Why do you wish to fight?
- For the sake of protecting something
- None of your imbeciles
-
Right below None of your imbeciles there is a secret third option that is invisible, choose it and you'll go into the real deal with bahamut. beat him and he will join your party.

[lonely]

Sorry about answering. I could not help it.
Hey that is completely fine, the way you answered the question was good, I probably would have answered it in the same way. so there's no need to apologise, Thanx for answering it, I'm sure that, that person will appreciate your answer!

[PhoenixAsh]

Think I should add that there's a LOT more to be done in the Deep Sea Research Centre. Once you've done everything Shockwave Pulsar said go back out and go to the room to the left of the lift on the Ragnorok (I think it's that one) then go back into the research centre.
I won't bother spoiling, or wasting time explaining the next bit but I recommend Encounter-None, and make sure someone has draw equipped!

[NM]

Enc-None dosn't work at the bottom of the Deep Sea Research Facility. ;)

[PhoenixAsh]

True, if you can't beat Bahamut easily, you might not wanna bother with the rest yet. But make sure you have draw when you do!!!

[TheSpoonyBard]

Enc-None dosn't work at the bottom of the Deep Sea Research Facility. ;)
True, but it is twice as effective as Enc-Half, giving you an encounter once every 7-10 steps instead of the usual once every 2 steps.

[PhoenixAsh]

*Raises eyebrow*

Which version are you lot playing? I don't remember ever getting an encounter while using it.

[m4tt]

How should I use my FFVIII CD? As a coaster, or a frisbee for my dog?

[lonely]

You shouldn't use it for a coaster or a frisbee! You should keep it somwhere safe, somewhere where it won't get scratched, and you should play your FF8 CD as loud as you can!

[Iceglow]

Ok I have posted this before ages ago but there are enough GFs in the game to give 2 to each character therefore junction any two to each character but do not give Eden or Bahamut to Squall or Irvine the simplest reason is that once they have their final weapons theyre more valuble using their limit breaks than wasting time on a GF.

However never give a character only support GFs you never know when a ruby dragon or marlboro will put you in a position where the only option is attack with a Summon then if theres only one person still able to summon youre not screwed.

Also there is something I picked up on with two GFs (another good thing to do is find GF combinations where summoning one will not lower the others compatability level e.g dont junction Ifrit and Shiva to one person its gonna be bad summoning time for either as if you need Ifrit in one fight then Shiva immediately afterwards you summon shiva slower.) Is that the secondary GF will no longer need its Basic Command abilities such as Draw Magic or GF these will allready be there from the main one therefore a couple of Forgetting items later you have around 4 more slots to put GF abilities in to using Items after level 70 they'll no longer need GF HP +10% either as the HP will still be 9999 without it so forget the lesser abilities for better abilities. Good luck with the junctioning also makesure you get plenty of marlboro tentacles they give the status defense junction for 3 spells I made my characters pretty much immune to Bad breath with a few high level status spells (Pain is a must)

Also At the bottom of the deep sea reaserch center pack a hell of a lot of aura spells or stones and use selphie and pray for The End to come up if your not level 100 else theres another way to do it Refine the laguna card for 100 hero potions then refine them in to 1 holy war trial it'll last all battle but use the aura stones before it else the character is immune even to Aura :D Not doing a spoiler but think it might help out a lot

[lonely]

woooh, that's alot to take in, good theory though, any one on this thread should really listen to you, you got some great info, not sayin that I aint.

[PhoenixAsh]

Umm, while that is a relatively valid approach, if you still have to rely on GF summoning you really need to rethink your strategy methinks. If you need The End or invincibility items to beat Ultima you still need to rethink your strategy.

Giving to GF to each character would again be a reason to rethink strategies unless you're desperate to kill Ulty in a flashy way.

[lonely]

PheonixAsh Would you care to explain that again my friend?:choc:

[PhoenixAsh]

Well as far as GF summoning goes, it's slow and pretty much completely unneccessary. Using them to kill anything like Ultima would take so long I can't imagine. Plus Renzokuken and other limits are far more efficient.

The End is really not something you wanna rely on IMO, it's cheap, and unless you want to waste good cards and items to become invincible it's not very reliable. Even if you do use them it's still a fairly risky tactic. A decent stock of curative magic and good defensive junctioning is a much better and less wasteful method of keeping your characters on their feet.

Splitting GF amongst more than three people means your missing out on a lot of junctioning and abilities. Getting a good team on disc 3 takes a hell of a long time if you want to build up every character and GF separately and without the aid of a lot of junction and stat bonuses.

[§håd0w]

Originally posted by PhoenixAsh
Umm, while that is a relatively valid approach, if you still have to rely on GF summoning you really need to rethink your strategy methinks. If you need The End or invincibility items to beat Ultima you still need to rethink your strategy.

But you also have to take into consideration, if your levels are around 20 and your already in Ultimecia's Castle, you sorta will have to rely on GF's. Either that, or spend forever using physical attacks. Even at max attack, Squall's gunblade only does 3-4,000 at the max in the Castle.

As for giving everyone GF's and using Heros, Holy Wars, The End, etc... Thats all fine and dandy for Omega, Ultima however, you should beat him in 5 minutes max. If you have Lionheart, and 100 Ultima juntcioned to Squall's attack, go down fast.

[Iceglow]

truthfully I never really use the spell THE END unless it happens to be in the first 3 that come up on slot but then I am rarely below level 80 by the time I get to that stage of the game and don't need to also I tend to put Ultima on defense (vitality) as you can survive more with str bonus learned early on I can get to 255 str easy enough

[lonely]

I agree with you guy's totally. You guy's have got some good info too. :p

[Bahumat]

1 Question.

HOW THE HELL ARE YOU MEANT TO GET TO ULTIMA WEAPON!!!!! the walkthrough for him that i read was that you have to "climb down a vine" what vine?? oh yeah, someone said that you have to beat Omega 1st, True/False?

Thanks!!!!

[lonely]

Yes Ultima weapon is found down that wierd looking hole with that save point next to it, so go down the hole after you've beaten Bahamut, the hole should be in the same room as where you found Bahamut, but you can only get to the hole afrter you've beaten Bahamut, Ok if you do manage to get to Ultima Weapon then don't forget to draw Eden from him, coz Eden is a very powerful GF.
As for fighting Omega weapon, no you DON'T fight him first, however if you do want to fight him then he can be found in Ultimecia's castle (near the end of Disk 4).
is that ok for you?:mog:

[§håd0w]

You can also draw Eden from Tiamat in Ultimecia's Castle. I'm also prettuy positive you can't fight Ultima w/o Zell, since he opens one of the doors for you.

[Lord Xehanort]

Masamune? You said that Squall's Attacks only do 3000-4000 damage in the Castle? I always did 9,999. Same with Zell.

[§håd0w]

Renzokuken always did 9999 for me, but Attack or Mug only did around 3-4000. It's also because the levels of monsters in the Castle varies, Squall can be 14 and they can be 100. So it vaires from monster

[Lord Xehanort]

So the fact that I was Level 100 made a difference eh?

[§håd0w]

In a nut shell... yes. The monsters level up as Squall levels up, but the Castle is the only exception.

[Iceglow]

You can fight Ultima without zell theres two routes down and One avoids the "Zell door" Yes the castle is different level 70 - 100 reccommended if notaround there then I suggest islands closest to heaven and hell or esthar continent for your training if you are on disc 4 if not on esthar disc 3 after the lunar cry defeat the elnoyle 1300exp and 2 energy crystals each battle = a lot of pulse ammo + level up

[lonely]

1300exp wow that's alot, personally I think that the best place to get your level higher is the forests around Trabia Garden, they have some good monsters that give you a decent amount of exp, though The islands closet to heaven/hell are also good places to get your levels up higher!:mog:

[Iceglow]

it's alot of exp but with a exp bonus ability heaven or hell are a lot better as the encounter rate is one battle every 2 steps normally and one every 4 under enc-half and none under enc-none and Esthar takes longer as there is only one Elnoyle

[lonely]

Yes it is very annoying, that Esthar has only one Elnoyle, especially if Elnoyle has magic or items that you need!:p

[Iceglow]

quick hint run out of screen towards where the chair lift used to be then re-enter the screen all problems stopped

[lonely]

ok, explain that to me again please.:D :)

[Iceglow]

exit and re-enter the central "Elnoyle screen" from the left hand side using the stairs. It causes mr elnoyle to respawn always

[lonely]

well thank you, so kind of you to explain it for me, now I can fight Mr Elnoyle any time I want, right?:mog:

[Iceglow]

yep sure can

[Bahumat]

Thanks for all the info. it turns out that you need to be in the future to get to him. i wasn't back then. also, i managed to beat Ultimecia with squall at level 67, and the other party ant around level 30. How??? Rinoa's limit break Invincible moon. (i was too lazy to get any hero's/holy wars) just out of curiosity, how do you get the Giglamesh card and what moves does he have aside from Excalibur and Odin's move???
Thanks!!!!;)

[PhoenixAsh]

Ultima doesn't have to be fought in the future, you just have to return to the Ragnorok and go to where Laguna and Co. are before the vine appears (vaguely accurate).

Gilgamesh does the two you mentioned, plus Excalipur (1HP), and one for 9,999 damage (I think).

The Gilgamesh Card is available from Quistis during the CC Quest.

[§håd0w]

Her other attack is Masamune, which does a lot. I'm not sure what it's based on though, but it usually does more than Excalibur.

[Peegee]

This sort of thread brings me back to simpsons forums when a simpsons guru would answer any question. One person actually made a contest and offered a prize for the person who could stump him. But I digress.

I'm at the end of disc 3. Rinoa's captured. I have the Ragnarok, no Doomtrain. I want Doomtrain, and all the nice weapons. What do I do?

[Kirobaito]

Okay, PG, I'll give your vague question a shot.

DOOMTRAIN
You can find a ring called the Solomon's Ring at Tears' Point in Esthar. Also, you need to garther six of the following items: Malboro Tentacles, Remedy +, and Steel Pipes. Doomtrain will accept the items in Disc Three.

Super Millionaire is on right now, so I'll edit this post with the Ultimate Weapons later.

[Iceglow]

oh but the nasty part is that you say rinoa has been captured I'm guessing you mean by seifer, well that happens to be one of the point of no returns in the game like in the dollet mission you cant wander around the plains of alcaud any more you just drive in to town. get doom train by having 6 remedy+ (60 remedies and med lvl up ability) 6 steel pipes and 6 marlboro tentacles and the king solomon ring

[dman]

Okay, here's one...

What does the ability "devour" do? Apart from eating monsters up, does it have any other use?

[Kirobaito]

Not that I know of. It is quite humorous, though. I seem to remember hearing that you could learn something by using it, but someone else would have to confirm this.

[§håd0w]

Don't think there's any other use for it. I never really used it at all.

[Kirobaito]

Actually, there is a use for it. It increases your stats. So, theoretically, you can max out every character's stats. This could take months, but every FF player is looking for a challenge, right?

[§håd0w]

Took me long enough to max out everyone's stats in FFVII, muchless do i have time to do it in more games. I've only done it in FFX and FFVII, the rest are too much work. :D

[BG-57]

Essentially all random monsters can be devoured, but only a few actually raise your stats (the results depend on the monster devoured). These are the ones that are worth devouring:

Ruby Dragon: +10 HP
T-Rexaur: +1 Strength
Behometh: +1 Magic
Malboro: +1 Spirit
Adamantoise: +1 Defense

The best method for adding +1 to speed is mugging 100 cactus thorns from cataurs and refining them into a hundred Needles.

[Peegee]

No no, I mean they took Rinoa in because she's a Sorceress. This is before Adel fight.

[Kirobaito]

Make sure not to save inside the Lunatic Pandora unless you're ready to end that disc. You can't escape.

[Marcus]

Hello, whats going on here then?

*stands up, hand in air, waving, jumping around*

I gotta question, I gotta question, me me me ME!

*gets picked*

Thank you.

I read somewhere that the monsters are growing along with me, so that when I get stronger, the monsters get stronger too. They actually level up.

Is this true? And to what extent? World map monsters as well as in-dungeon? And bosses too, I presume? And will any one of those be put on a hold at some point?

Doesn't this mean that leveling up on the world map would have no use??

I'm halfway through this game, and I'm still finding out new stuff about it. Hell, I still barely know anything about FF4's system. =)

Aaaah... Ain't I cute?

[§håd0w]

The monsters do level up as Squall levels up. The only exception is in Ultimecia's Castle, where they range in levels from 1-100.

[BG-57]

I think more specifically, the monster's levels are a reflection of the average level of your party. Naturally the party gaining levels will make the monsters gain levels, so although you get tougher, they do too. There are a few benefits to leveling up your party:

1) Monsters carry better spells at higher levels.

2) The more experience your GF's get, the more useful abilities they learn.

Of course, with Diablos' Enc-None, you can avoid random battles entirely, but some monsters carry some nifty items in addition to their spells.

Some people try to avoid leveling up until they get Jumbo Catuar as a GF (who gives excellent stat bonuses).

[Marcus]

Thanks, that clears up a big question mark I had floating over my head.

I always level up a bit everytime I get the chance, in between missions, when the world map is available... Final Fantasy always gives lots of oppurtunity to explore and take a break from the storyline.. Which I always appreciate... =)

One more thing:

Please tell me I'm going to get a better means of transportation than the floating Garden..

[Kirobaito]

Yes. You will eventually go into space and find an airship called the Ragnarok. Don't read that if you don't want to know.

[Marcus]

Thank God. And nope, I won't read that.... I was just enormously annoyed by my current transportation...

[Kirobaito]

Yeah, using the Garden sucks serious ass-wipe.

[§håd0w]

Originally posted by BG-57
I think more specifically, the monster's levels are a reflection of the average level of your party. Naturally the party gaining levels will make the monsters gain levels, so although you get tougher, they do too.

I can sorta agree with that. I manged to beat the game with a party consisting of Squall (23), Zell (100), and Rinoa (100). The monsters on the world map, weren't that hard either. The highest I encountered on the map was around level 30. But keeping Squall in a constant state of Zombie or KO does wonders.

[dman]

Originally posted by BG-57
Essentially all random monsters can be devoured, but only a few actually raise your stats (the results depend on the monster devoured). These are the ones that are worth devouring:

Ruby Dragon: +10 HP
T-Rexaur: +1 Strength
Behometh: +1 Magic
Malboro: +1 Spirit
Adamantoise: +1 Defense

The best method for adding +1 to speed is mugging 100 cactus thorns from cataurs and refining them into a hundred Needles.

Any real strategy to devouring monsters? I've tried putting them to sleep, reducing their HP to very low levels, even using the Lvl-Down ability, but they still take forever to devour. Thanks.

[lonely]

hey you guys are really cool, and you got some excellent answers and the questions are great too, so keep them coming!!!:D

[§håd0w]

Originally posted by dman
Any real strategy to devouring monsters? I've tried putting them to sleep, reducing their HP to very low levels, even using the Lvl-Down ability, but they still take forever to devour. Thanks.

Same way you morph something in VII or eat something in IX.

[lonely]

That is so true masamune1287, so true

[eninen525]

why is my video messed up when i play ff8 pc ? i walk around and little squares appear on my screen that blink. familiar wit this problem ?

[lonely]

hhhhhhhhhmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm well Your pc is probably pretty fast and highly advanced. if it is then, 8 being and old game will do that on a very fast pc. so it's probably coz your pc's advanced. mine is highly advanced and it also does that with my pc version, and my bro told me it's coz our pc is highly advanced so that could be the prob.
however if it's not and you no it's not that, then I dunno how to help. I'm not a wizz when it comes to technical things so soz if it's not that!:D

[Kirobaito]

My PC is nearly brand new, and FF8 runs normal.

[§håd0w]

Same here. All of my computers run it fine. Assbags (My favorite cpu) is quite possibly the best computer out there since I made it myself, and it runs perfectly, no load times (not there were many to begin with), and the scrolling and graphics are crystal clear.

[dman]

What video card do you have? Looks awful on my GeForce 4...

[§håd0w]

Radeon 9800 XT

I love it sooo much, yes I do. :love:

[eninen525]

im tryin to find the queen of cards on disc four so i can get those five cards i was too lazy to get earlier. i must have searched for over an hour .. and i havent found her. im searching in the abadon plains .. the peninsula farthest south of esthar. are there requirements ? like would i have had to talked to the queen of cards in any of the previous discs (ive never initiated a conversation with her) and did i have to visit piet's crash site in disc 3 ? thx

[Stayin Dizzy]

if youve never talked to her before shes still by the trainstation in balamb. Play her there and you have to give her a card and she'll take it to dollett first I believe. go there and lose another card to her, and the painter will have a new one for you, and a certain person will have the card you lost (for example, you lose ifrit to carroway for rinoa, then get ifrit back from tha old headmaster of galbadia garden in FH)

I think theres a trick to get her to keep going back between dollet and balamb, but I cant remember it. I think you just reset and retry if shes not in one of them and eventually shell go to one. Also FYI, if you ever want all rules erased go to balamb and play the man by the docks and all the card rules will be erased.

Oh and if you'r playing the queen of cards I think if you don't like the rule set she gives, cancel when you come to the play/cancel screen and ask her to play again. or with her and most anyone if they say lets play with "xxx's" rules just say no and keep asking them to play and eventually they'll say something like "want to play a game?" and they'll play with the rules you have

[Iceglow]

not on disc four she is not darryn one you must have completed the CC quest in garden for her to appear and dude it seriously sucks playing her on disc four as she chooses the rules from any in the world which means you can play all of the rules do it in the game on the way through and if you look hard enough theres hints on how to abolish all rules except open in every region. Oh and her location is the pod from the lunar base crash site you have to enter the location again

[eninen525]

yep i completed the cc quests .. and my proof is that theyre occupying the ragnarok on disc four. i still cant find her though .. =/ is there a very specific area of abadon plains where i can have more hope finding her ?
and Daryn i did mean on disc four thanks though

[Iceglow]

as far as I remember just look for where the lunar pod smacked the ground it should be visible from the air but I can't pin point it further

[the_dark_avatar]

Would you happen to know who the names of Squall's Mother and Father were? I can not remember because I never saw them mentioned in the game.... it would be a real help to know this...

[§håd0w]

Laguna and Raine

[lonely]

maybe you should play the game again, and look for the smallest clues.e.g looks, who Squall looks like etc jes little clues like that and you should watch carefully so. umm you should find out for your self. it's much more fun! :D