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Kirobaito
03-25-2004, 04:30 AM
You have GOT to be kidding me.

SeeDRankLou
03-25-2004, 07:47 PM
Originally posted by Darkness
I'll accept that answer, it was Nanaki. I just wanted someone to give a reason for their choice by applying it to the riddle. Riddle away PhoenixAsh!

So all of this time someone's had the right answer? Dude, play fair.

PhoenixAsh
03-25-2004, 08:20 PM
I... see...

To find me takes a lot,
Just to start your quest you might almost have to move a mountain.
It's the end of the world,
But this time they're going in three by three.

zacks_clone
03-25-2004, 08:31 PM
Sephiroth?

PhoenixAsh
03-25-2004, 08:44 PM
Makes sense, but it's a bit trickier than that.

HanaKirei
03-25-2004, 09:54 PM
I'm probably wrong, but maybe one of the Weapons? Jenova? A chocobo named Bob? ^^;

EDIT: Or mebbe even Lifestream? XD; I dunnnno...

zacks_clone
03-25-2004, 10:02 PM
Originally posted by HanaKirei
I'm probably wrong, but maybe one of the Weapons? Jenova? A chocobo named Bob? ^^;

Chocobo name Bob?mines named bill...

okay,more complex then spehiroth...jeez...three by three...

SeeDRankLou
03-25-2004, 10:30 PM
The Apocolypse Sword

PhoenixAsh
03-25-2004, 10:43 PM
And the prize for not throwing out random guesses goes to...SeedRankLou riddle away.

zacks_clone
03-25-2004, 11:15 PM
I didnt even think of a weapon...O.o....all well,good job SRL,riddle us!

SeeDRankLou
03-25-2004, 11:31 PM
Originally posted by PhoenixAsh
And the prize for not throwing out random guesses goes to...SeedRankLou riddle away.

LOL......:)

Digging me up from undernearth some bones
Or using gil, you can have me for your own
My custodial appearance doesn't invoke fear
But it rather hurts when I kick your rear
The strength I give is quite a ton
But magic, with me, you can use none

zacks_clone
03-26-2004, 01:03 AM
cids mop!

edit: alright.i believe i should post more then two words.I cant quite remember if you could use the Mop with materia or not...but i got mine from bone village,and all i could see when the name appered (revived mop...:: giggles : ) was cid mopping floors and shera grinning victoriously over him,telling him he missed a spot.

SeeDRankLou
03-26-2004, 01:25 AM
Why are mine so easy for you to figure out? Correct.

zacks_clone
03-26-2004, 01:39 AM
haha,im sure on any other day i wouldnt have known.I just havent drunk alot of soda tonight...yet...


goodness.A riddle...hmmm...

I was forced to say goodbye
To somone i hardly knew
The stars as our blanket
For nights I sat here and wished for you

i'll accept afew diffrent answers.

HanaKirei
03-26-2004, 08:00 PM
Nanaki in reference to his father?

PhoenixAsh
03-26-2004, 08:11 PM
Cloud and Tifa as children (Tifa talking)?

zacks_clone
03-26-2004, 09:29 PM
Originally posted by HanaKirei
Nanaki in reference to his father?

ohhhh,i never even thought of that.not correct,but a very good guess.


Originally posted by PhoenixAsh

Cloud and Tifa as children (Tifa talking)?

Your answer was more along the lines I was going for.I'll accept this.If you had just said tifa or cloud,then I wouldnt have.Yup,Tifas memory.(Would have accepted the town,or the well also)

PhoenixAsh
03-26-2004, 09:43 PM
Yeah sorry I really should start justifying my answers.

My kind are cherished,
Freedom is our offer,
And none can offer more.
But I am without merit,
Unless you're rather special,
One like me has come before.
You see I am a paradox,
I offer what you probably have.
Unless you've taken a giant beast,
And done it by your own hand.

zacks_clone
03-26-2004, 09:49 PM
your first line makes me think of the cetra,but the rest of it has me lost.:P

ForeverZeroUltima
03-26-2004, 10:09 PM
*takes a wild, random guess*

Phoenix Summon?

PhoenixAsh
03-26-2004, 10:11 PM
FZU has the right idea (though still way off). This ones tricky I admit.

SeeDRankLou
03-26-2004, 10:29 PM
Master Summon Materia

PhoenixAsh
03-26-2004, 10:34 PM
Ooh, soooo close. Think slightly more literally about the first part of the clue.

zacks_clone
03-26-2004, 11:34 PM
zero bahamute?(cannot spell its name!the big dragon.)...that,or im thinking big materia

PhoenixAsh
03-26-2004, 11:44 PM
Nope, nowhere near with that, kinda see your logic though.

HanaKirei
03-27-2004, 12:40 AM
A gold chocobo?

PhoenixAsh
03-27-2004, 12:44 AM
I'll need slightly more specific than that, not really sure how you guessed that instead of the complete answer...

HanaKirei
03-27-2004, 12:50 AM
Well bah. ^^; Plain ol' yellow one then?

PhoenixAsh
03-27-2004, 12:57 AM
Ummm.... no. Think about your first answer in connection with the clue.

zacks_clone
03-27-2004, 01:00 AM
gold chocobo you recieve when you beat one of the weapons?

PhoenixAsh
03-27-2004, 01:05 AM
Finally! I know that was tricky, but people kept getting so close! Go ahead zacks_clone!

HanaKirei
03-27-2004, 01:08 AM
¬_¬ Curse my thick skull...

zacks_clone
03-27-2004, 02:23 AM
haha,but you were close!that was a tough riddle!

Like i coward I hide inside
never to be seen
and like a dog I obey anyone
Anyone who might know me
The ball I toy with I hand to my master
As my memories scream and try
But its no use for I'm almost gone now
and so is somones life

PhoenixAsh
03-27-2004, 12:14 PM
I have a lot of guesses but I'm gonna go with Cait Sith mark one.

Like i coward I hide inside
never to be seen (Reeve)
and like a dog I obey anyone
Anyone who might know me (remote control)
The ball I toy with I hand to my master (this could be literal I forget if Cait has a ball)
As my memories scream and try
But its no use for I'm almost gone now (The seen before he sacrifices himself)
and so is somones life (Aeris dies shortly after)

one_winged_angel
03-27-2004, 04:49 PM
Wow so many posts I can hardly keep up with y'all I never expected this topic to be so big when I made it...


I think phoenix ash could be on to something here, the ball I toy with could be referring to the fact that Cait Sith is actually a cat I don't remember him having a ball he uses trumpets as a weapon if that's what you're thinking...

zacks_clone
03-27-2004, 05:37 PM
good guess,but im afraid it is incorrect

ForeverZeroUltima
03-27-2004, 06:22 PM
*takes another wild, random guess*

Black Materia?

zacks_clone
03-27-2004, 06:27 PM
it has to do with the black materia,so keep thinking.

Lord Xehanort
03-27-2004, 07:09 PM
Cloud giving the Black Materia to Sephiroth?

zacks_clone
03-27-2004, 07:42 PM
more specificly then that.

PhoenixAsh
03-27-2004, 07:46 PM
The real Cloud underneath his Zack persona?

Lord Xehanort
03-27-2004, 07:48 PM
Ooh! Ooh! Is it Cloud giving the Black Materia to Sephiroth before falling into the Lifestream and going into his coma?

zacks_clone
03-27-2004, 08:39 PM
Originally posted by PhoenixAsh
The real Cloud underneath his Zack persona?

again,thats part of it.

Ansem,sorry.Nope.To far

PhoenixAsh
03-27-2004, 09:10 PM
I was bouncing Jenova and Sephiroth around as guesses before I said Cait Sith, but I'm pretty sure they're just aspects of it again. I kinda want to say the Temple of the Ancients , but that doesn't quite fit either.
This is a tough one.

ForeverZeroUltima
03-27-2004, 11:17 PM
i'm goonna have to read that riddle over and over again until i get even a hint...:S

zacks_clone
03-27-2004, 11:41 PM
Originally posted by zacks_clone
haha,but you were close!that was a tough riddle!

Like i coward I hide inside
never to be seen
and like a dog I obey anyone
Anyone who might know me
The ball I toy with I hand to my master
As my memories scream and try
But its no use for I'm almost gone now
and so is somones life

i'll give you guys a hint then. Line 5 is not a toy ball.Whats another word for ball?What shape is a ball?

"As my memories scream and try" is ment to be taken literaly

PhoenixAsh
03-27-2004, 11:51 PM
Well I got those as Black Materia, and the voices in Cloud's head. So I get the whole Cloud being taken over, his issues with Zack etc. But I can't narrow that down to an actual answer.

zacks_clone
03-27-2004, 11:58 PM
well,it sort of is the voices in clouds head, but at the same time, those voices are out of his head.

PhoenixAsh
03-28-2004, 12:11 AM
And so it comes back to Jenova or Sephiroth, depending on your outlook... I think I'll let someone else get this I seem to keep running myself in circles, needs a new perspective.

zacks_clone
03-28-2004, 12:19 AM
lol,well,if it helps you,its not a person,but an event.Ansem has the right idea,but his answer was to late in the game.I need it to be specific to,because im thinking of a certain something.

one_winged_angel
03-28-2004, 12:47 AM
Ofcourse it's got to be when Cloud gives Sephiroth the black materia at the temple of the ancients

zacks_clone
03-28-2004, 01:02 AM
Like i coward I hide inside (Cloud is hidding under Zack)
never to be seen (You dont see Cloud in disk one at all)
and like a dog I obey anyone (Cloud being taken over)
Anyone who might know me (Sephiroth controlling him,or Jenova controlling him)
The ball I toy with I hand to my master (Black materia)
As my memories scream and try (Child Cloud trying to stop his older self,remember?)
But its no use for I'm almost gone now (Clouds already fully under sephiroths controll at this point)
and so is somones life (Aeris dies shortly after)

Yup,you got it.

one_winged_angel
03-28-2004, 01:24 AM
You can't trust me,
Under the sky I deceive you,
Fight me to find me,
Free me with unlikely allies,
In my home you'll find paradise,
Ending the search of 6

One hint....... It's cryptic

zacks_clone
03-28-2004, 01:26 AM
im thinking turtles paridise....least,i believe thats what it is called...

one_winged_angel
03-28-2004, 01:26 AM
That's part of the clue.... Link that into the rest of the riddle

-N-
03-28-2004, 05:04 AM
Yuffie.

You can't trust me, (Yuffie betrays you)
Under the sky I deceive you, (Ditto)
Fight me to find me, (You fight her when you first meet her)
Free me with unlikely allies, (the Turks help you in Wutai)
In my home you'll find paradise, (Turtles Paradise)
Ending the search of 6 (Six flyers)

So, Yuffie.

one_winged_angel
03-28-2004, 08:46 PM
Yeah exactly... but also

(Y) ou can't trust me,
(U) nder the sky I deceive you,
(F) ight me to find me,
(F) ree me with unlikely allies,
(I) n my home you'll find paradise,
(E) nding the search of 6

You see it now?
Anyway riddle away prince

-N-
03-29-2004, 05:06 PM
Haha, I like that too.

Before me there was hardship.
After me there is only misery.
People exploit me, people are exploited by me.
Yet I myself do nothing actively.
What am I?

(You can't solve it o_w_a style.)

Lord Xehanort
03-29-2004, 07:41 PM
Jenova? All she ever really does is send 'puppets' at you until you are right upon her lair.

-N-
03-29-2004, 08:44 PM
*incorrect buzzer*

I'll be generous. Disagrees with the third line.

SeeDRankLou
03-29-2004, 10:35 PM
The Corel Mines.

Kirobaito
03-29-2004, 11:07 PM
I'll take a shot with Bapyw.

-N-
03-29-2004, 11:43 PM
I see where SRL is coming from, but no. Once again, the third line.

KB... a valiant effort, but, no. :D

I think I could have tweaked it to make it easier, but oh well. :D

SeeDRankLou
03-29-2004, 11:56 PM
Hmmm....Mako engery

ForeverZeroUltima
03-30-2004, 04:56 AM
darn! King Bahamut beat me to it! -_-

zacks_clone
03-30-2004, 02:34 PM
Im thinking Zack.

Before me there was hardship.( the war, and also the fire incident. Being in test tubes for 5 years)
After me there is only misery.(cloud losses his mind. things begin to downfall)
People exploit me, people are exploited by me.(errr)
Yet I myself do nothing actively.(you cannot controll him,and he is dead)
What am I?(what...er,human??)

i still say its Zack.

one_winged_angel
03-30-2004, 03:10 PM
You really love Zack, huh?

And is it................ The Black Materia? Doesn't fit very well but everybody stole all the good guesses

-N-
03-30-2004, 08:49 PM
I had Mako Reactors in mind, but Mako Energy is close enough. Go for it, SRL.

SeeDRankLou
03-30-2004, 11:40 PM
Yay!!! OK...*thinks of riddle zacks_clone won't get in the first try*:love:

This approach is radical,
But the solution is not quadradical.
Even the simplest of the mathematical
Will be awarded with something magical.
Left and right, up and down,
Walking not running gets this piece found.
Maybe it's behind, maybe it's around,
Maybe the clues are not very abound.
Watch out for the pumpkins, be wary of the ceiling,
Be prepared for whatever the balance is dealing.
Careful if botanical allergy you might be feeling.
And don't give into thirst, even an inkling.
What's this I didn't see when we did first meet?
Now the puzzle is complete!
Oh wait, time I now have to beat,
Hopefully my perfection can take the heat.

zacks_clone
03-31-2004, 12:12 AM
Originally posted by one_winged_angel
You really love Zack, huh?


:: nodd nodd :: yeah. But it did fit, sort of. Guess you just have to think like me to see it...which...probably isnt a good thing...

SRL, i think youv got me here.

This approach is radical,
But the solution is not quadradical.
Even the simplest of the mathematical
Will be awarded with something magical.
Left and right, up and down,
Walking not running gets this piece found.
Maybe it's behind, maybe it's around,
Maybe the clues are not very abound.
Watch out for the pumpkins, be wary of the ceiling,
Be prepared for whatever the balance is dealing.
Careful if botanical allergy you might be feeling.
And don't give into thirst, even an inkling.
What's this I didn't see when we did first meet?
Now the puzzle is complete!
Oh wait, time I now have to beat,
Hopefully my perfection can take the heat.

Okay. Hojo's clues to find vincent in the basment, which the key for the basment is hidden in the safe ( along with odin i believe), and you need to fight lost number.

ForeverZeroUltima
03-31-2004, 01:10 AM
hrm. before King Bahamut can steal it from me.....

Tbewlwmmwbcawnoh!

ok, maybe not. hrm....

This approach is radical,
But the solution is not quadradical.
Even the simplest of the mathematical
Will be awarded with something magical.
Left and right, up and down,
Walking not running gets this piece found. (you have to search carefully for the clues)
Maybe it's behind, maybe it's around,
Maybe the clues are not very abound.
Watch out for the pumpkins, be wary of the ceiling, (pumpkin thingies you have to fight)
Be prepared for whatever the balance is dealing. (librum things you have to fight)
Careful if botanical allergy you might be feeling. (funny gas will make you confused)
And don't give into thirst, even an inkling.
What's this I didn't see when we did first meet? (invisible ink on the notepad)
Now the puzzle is complete!
Oh wait, time I now have to beat, (time limit for entering the code)
Hopefully my perfection can take the heat

yeah, i'm gonna have to go with zacks_clone. just adding some more details, if that's the answer.

SeeDRankLou
03-31-2004, 02:42 AM
Originally posted by zacks_clone
Okay. Hojo's clues to find vincent in the basment, which the key for the basment is hidden in the safe ( along with odin i believe), and you need to fight lost number.

DRAT!!!! yes, that's right.

Kirobaito
03-31-2004, 05:03 AM
Weird. I was actually gonna say that, but I thought the answer was stupid.

one_winged_angel
03-31-2004, 07:11 PM
Nice, that was really good riddle aswell....

zacks_clone
03-31-2004, 08:05 PM
it was good!i read through it quite afew times before it all clicked. I kept thinking of the chair upstairs that you walk from, then down the hall, to find one of the codes.:P

darn,now i have to do a riddle.

The stars have been stolen
The the nightmares will come
I was powers devotion
Now Gods maid of one
Swallow the tonic
Hold tight not to fear
For one day they shall thank me,
And I shall travel up another year

Lord Xehanort
03-31-2004, 08:20 PM
Lucrecia?

zacks_clone
03-31-2004, 08:28 PM
nope, im afraid not. good guess though

Lord Xehanort
03-31-2004, 08:31 PM
I know this seems a little cheap to answer again so quickly. But the only other woman I can think of who is old is Jenova. So, yeah... Jenova.

zacks_clone
03-31-2004, 08:33 PM
again, sorry, but no. Keep trying.

PhoenixAsh
03-31-2004, 09:33 PM
This is an extremely abstract guess, but Marlene?

The stars have been stolen
The the nightmares will come (Her tragic past)
I was powers devotion (Dyne)
Now Gods maid of one (Barret, single parent role)
Swallow the tonic (She works in a bar)
Hold tight not to fear
For one day they shall thank me (Not really sure),
And I shall travel up another year (Age is important when you're that young).

zacks_clone
03-31-2004, 10:15 PM
again, nope. The riddle has nothing to do with age.

PhoenixAsh
03-31-2004, 10:27 PM
Oh! I think I've at least worked out the area. Is it something to do with Cid and Shera?

The stars have been stolen (The first failed mission)
The the nightmares will come (Life got bad after that for Cid and Shera)
I was powers devotion
Now Gods maid of one (Shera was a mechanic, now she just looks after Cid and the house)
Swallow the tonic (Serving tea becomes a big deal)
Hold tight not to fear
For one day they shall thank me (Cid realises Shera saved him),
And I shall travel up another year (Cid finally makes it into space)

The God stuff, and some of the clues seem to point to Cid so I'm confused, but I'll go with Shera.

-N-
03-31-2004, 10:27 PM
Aeris?

The stars have been stolen (Meteor)
The the nightmares will come (Sephiroth/Jenova)
I was powers devotion (Aeris prays for Holy)
Now Gods maid of one (Aeris - God's Maid, one - last Ancient)
Swallow the tonic (I dunno)
Hold tight not to fear (Aeris pulls Cloud back into reality after Sephiroth fight)
For one day they shall thank me, (Thank you, Aeris!)
And I shall travel up another year (Traveling the lifestream?)

edit: Oooh, I like Ash's answer, too.

zacks_clone
03-31-2004, 11:23 PM
Originally posted by PhoenixAsh
Oh! I think I've at least worked out the area. Is it something to do with Cid and Shera?

The stars have been stolen (The first failed mission)
The the nightmares will come (Life got bad after that for Cid and Shera)
I was powers devotion
Now Gods maid of one (Shera was a mechanic, now she just looks after Cid and the house)
Swallow the tonic (Serving tea becomes a big deal)
Hold tight not to fear
For one day they shall thank me (Cid realises Shera saved him),
And I shall travel up another year (Cid finally makes it into space)

The God stuff, and some of the clues seem to point to Cid so I'm confused, but I'll go with Shera.

Exactly what it is. Also, acording to one of the websites i went to, Cid means God. As far as powers devotion, Shera was the only thing really left, other then the rocket, that reminded Cid of Shinra, so Shera devoted her life to him. Hold tight not to fear= shera would not become upset when Cid yelled at her, knowing it her fault anyway.

ForeverZeroUltima
04-01-2004, 01:33 AM
wow these riddles are getting tough....

one_winged_angel
04-01-2004, 06:18 PM
Wow evrybodie's riddles are so much better now than when we started....... I'm just never on at the right time to get an answer in :mad:

PhoenixAsh
04-01-2004, 08:05 PM
Yeah that was a really well thought out riddle, nice one zacks_clone.


One by one and then some more,
A holy book not bad at all,
That speaks of the last paradise,
Remembered from out there with the stars.
But then a hurricane at least a storm,
A disaster hit across the land,
Disorder reigning all around,
Everything made will feel it's wrath.
This story's meaning may point one way,
But it's contents have much more to say.

zacks_clone
04-01-2004, 09:45 PM
im thinking of the videos by ghast and iflana

PhoenixAsh
04-01-2004, 09:57 PM
I see your thinking, but sorry, try again.

ForeverZeroUltima
04-01-2004, 10:01 PM
um, when Sephiroth was reading those books in the basement during Cloud's past and he finds one that tells about Cloud's ancestors killing his ancestors?

Lord Xehanort
04-01-2004, 10:01 PM
The Promised Land?

PhoenixAsh
04-01-2004, 10:26 PM
Hehe, I was hoping you'd start guessing like this. Think about the last two lines.

zacks_clone
04-01-2004, 10:27 PM
Jenova then?

Lord Xehanort
04-01-2004, 10:30 PM
The game itself! The riddle talks about things from different parts of the game and "it's content's have much more to say" could refer to the countless speculation over the game! My Answer Is: FFVII! *is as far from the right answer as you can be, probably*

zacks_clone
04-01-2004, 10:31 PM
Originally posted by Ansem
The game itself! The riddle talks about things from different parts of the game and "it's content's have much more to say" could refer to the countless speculation over the game! My Answer Is: FFVII! *is as far from the right answer as you can be, probably*

i was thinking of that, or the theme of the game.

PhoenixAsh
04-01-2004, 10:32 PM
Hehe ironically that's the closest answer so far, though it's still way off. Right thinking though.

ForeverZeroUltima
04-02-2004, 01:47 AM
wrath will spread across the land.....Weapon?

PhoenixAsh
04-02-2004, 12:50 PM
Okay here's a hint. All of your answers connect to line 9, think about line ten.

SeeDRankLou
04-02-2004, 07:07 PM
Hmmm.....Shinra taking over the cities of the world with their Mako Reactors.

Lord Xehanort
04-02-2004, 07:46 PM
Bugenhagen's universe machine... thing. Its contents have a lot to say.

PhoenixAsh
04-02-2004, 10:09 PM
Hehe, maybe I made this one harder than I should have. Line read line 9 and 10 together, they don't say the answers contents have a lot to say.

-N-
04-02-2004, 10:36 PM
Meteor? Doesn't have much to say about itself, but it is a disaster.

PhoenixAsh
04-02-2004, 10:51 PM
Sorry, not even close to the right lines. You're all making good guesses, but read line nine, it means they're probably wrong.

SeeDRankLou
04-02-2004, 11:15 PM
*from WAY out in left field, having thought about it for a while*
The progression that Yuffie makes in leveling up her limit breaks so that she can learn All Creations.

zacks_clone
04-02-2004, 11:17 PM
well...the last two linds remind me of when Sephiroth was in the basment, reading on what appeared to be his life and the fact he was "created". Which,ofcourse,isnt exactly true.So...the books in the basment mansion

PhoenixAsh
04-02-2004, 11:37 PM
*Grins* Interesting idea SRL, keep thinking...

ForeverZeroUltima
04-03-2004, 01:04 AM
hrm....since you said something about SRL's.....

Cosmo Memory?

-N-
04-03-2004, 03:09 AM
I like Cosmo Memory as an answer too. In case it's wrong, I'll suggest Aeris's Great Gospel?

PhoenixAsh
04-03-2004, 10:31 AM
Haha think this through, you should know when you've got the answer to this. You're getting close so I'm not accepting the answer without a breakdown of why.

ForeverZeroUltima
04-03-2004, 02:41 PM
*head explodes while thinking up the answer*

Catastrophe?

i duunnoo....."The contents have much more to say..." crap...

PhoenixAsh
04-03-2004, 02:57 PM
Oh this is painful, I can't believe how close you're getting. Like I said before, lines 9 and 10 don't say the answer's contents have a lot to say.

SeeDRankLou
04-03-2004, 08:09 PM
Oh cool, I was close.

A holy book not bad at all,
That speaks of the last paradise

I'm going to say Final Heaven.

PhoenixAsh
04-03-2004, 09:34 PM
*Bangs head against wall* Keep going. I'm still not accepting the answer without a full reason aswell.

Edit, and the answer is not Final Heaven.

ForeverZeroUltima
04-03-2004, 10:21 PM
o.o this is too hard.

Highwind? (the limit break Highwind)

SeeDRankLou
04-03-2004, 10:45 PM
Well I thought that was a full explaination. Before I answer again, is this another one of those instances where we think no one has gotten the answer but someone has just hasn't explained?

PhoenixAsh
04-03-2004, 11:18 PM
Nope, noone's got the answer as far as I've seen. In fairness I want an explanation with it because I highly doubt anyone could take the entire riddle and show logically why it suggests any of the answers so far.

Keep going though, you're sooo close.

Edit: That was a tad harsh, I meant the recent random limit break guesses.

-N-
04-04-2004, 12:12 AM
(Takes a turn away from the limit breaks)

Safer Sephiroth's Supernova attack?

One by one and then some more, (each planet is destroyed)
A holy book not bad at all,
That speaks of the last paradise,
Remembered from out there with the stars. (explosion from space)
But then a hurricane at least a storm, (I'd say this is a storm)
A disaster hit across the land, (")
Disorder reigning all around, (")
Everything made will feel it's wrath. (")
This story's meaning may point one way, (Sephiroth summoning the meteor)
But it's contents have much more to say. (the people involved have more to say than the supernova)

Reasoning:
The story's contents have a lot to say.
The answer's contents don't neccesarily have a lot to say.
The story is not necessarily the answer.

PhoenixAsh
04-04-2004, 11:15 AM
Excellent guess (though not the right answer) princeofdarknez, approaching the answer in the right kinda way. Just think about the previous answers, and work out what the last two lines are talking about and you should get somewhere.

zacks_clone
04-04-2004, 03:50 PM
Edit: Scratch the last one. I actually took the time to re-read all of the posts. The following shall be my guess:

One by one and then some more, (omni slash)
A holy book not bad at all.(Great gosple)
That speaks of the last paradise,(Final Heaven)
Remembered from out there with the stars. (cosmo memory)
But then a hurricane at least a storm, (highwind)
A disaster hit across the land, (catastrophe)
Disorder reigning all around,(chaos)
Everything made will feel it's wrath. (all creation)
This story's meaning may point one way,(slots...?)
But it's contents have much more to say (everyone was reluctant to just learn their limits,and what the titles of them said my have us assume diffrent things about that(like Cid's highwind i thought was a wind storm-.-;; ) but what they really are is much diffrent from their names)

the main characters limits in general

PhoenixAsh
04-04-2004, 06:37 PM
Finally! Well done zacks_clone! The answer is the Level 4 limit breaks.

The actual meaning of the last two lines is:

This story's meaning may point one way, (The riddle suggests Sephiroth/Jenova/The Cetra etc.)
But it's contents have much more to say (The answer is actually found by looking at each individual line).

Anyway, well done again, your turn!

zacks_clone
04-04-2004, 06:54 PM
jeezum.THAT was difficult.There is no way I can top such a thing.

Forever forzen in endless sleep
Glow from the earth holding me
A cause of destruction and disease
A World of blue shealters me
The elements make up everythig
At first you may pay me no mind
But I shall become yours in due time

ForeverZeroUltima
04-04-2004, 07:21 PM
hrm. i have two guesses, is that allowed?

the Knights of the Round, Mime, Quadra, and HP<==>MP Materias?

zacks_clone
04-04-2004, 07:32 PM
sorry,thats incorrect.

ForeverZeroUltima
04-04-2004, 09:48 PM
x.x the real Sephiroth in the Promised Land?

one_winged_angel
04-04-2004, 10:06 PM
Phew! Finally got a post in!
I'm thinking either Sephiroth or WEAPON

Forever frozen in endless sleep (Sephiroth in all materia or weapon in northern crater)
Glow from the earth holding me (the all materia is made of mako)
A cause of destruction and disease (They both go on insane rampages)
A World of blue shealters me (all materia is blue and they are both trapped inside it)
The elements make up everythig (not too sure about this one but if you join all materia with an elemental materia it affects everything)
At first you may pay me no mind (WEAPON is sitting there through the whole of the speech but nobody notices him(or her) doesn't really link to sephy much)
But I shall become yours in due time (Sephiroth controls Cloud's mind and if it's ultimate WEAPON then it will become Ultima Weapon which is obviously Cloud's possession)

zacks_clone
04-04-2004, 10:16 PM
nope nope. FZU was closer with materia guesses i am afraid.

one_winged_angel
04-04-2004, 10:17 PM
Awwwww that was a good guess aswell............*is upset* :cry:

zacks_clone
04-04-2004, 10:24 PM
Originally posted by one_winged_angel
Awwwww that was a good guess aswell............*is upset* :cry:

...sorry...but it happens to be true.Would you like a hint or shall i have you all suffer?

PhoenixAsh
04-04-2004, 10:24 PM
I keep thinking Hades but it doesn't seem to link to everything.

zacks_clone
04-04-2004, 10:26 PM
Originally posted by PhoenixAsh
I keep thinking Hades but it doesn't seem to link to everything.


we are getting closer now.

TheSpoonyBard
04-04-2004, 10:28 PM
Is it the Elemental in the Mako Fountain in Mt. Nibelheim?
Or perhaps Knights Of The Round?

zacks_clone
04-04-2004, 10:29 PM
Originally posted by Darkness
Is it the Elemental in the Mako Fountain in Mt. Nibelheim?

wow...nope...but i can tell your thinking...(cause i havent though of THAT in...sense last time i saw it...a year?wow)

PhoenixAsh
04-04-2004, 10:36 PM
In that case I wanna say either Bahamut Zero, or Typoon. But again I can't seem to fit either of them perfectly.

-N-
04-04-2004, 10:43 PM
I'll go with Kjata.

Forever forzen in endless sleep (materia state - sleeping forest)
Glow from the earth holding me (forest - earth)
A cause of destruction and disease (it bangs stuff up)
A World of blue shealters me (forest is kinda bluish when asleep)
The elements make up everythig (it's a composite of elements)
At first you may pay me no mind (it looks like a leaf at first, inconspicuous)
But I shall become yours in due time (finishes off the rhyme :D)

zacks_clone
04-04-2004, 11:08 PM
Originally posted by princeofdarknez
I'll go with Kjata.

Forever forzen in endless sleep (materia state - sleeping forest)
Glow from the earth holding me (forest - earth)
A cause of destruction and disease (it bangs stuff up)
A World of blue shealters me (forest is kinda bluish when asleep)
The elements make up everythig (it's a composite of elements)
At first you may pay me no mind (it looks like a leaf at first, inconspicuous)
But I shall become yours in due time (finishes off the rhyme :D)

Woo hoo!yup. Kjata.Just got the dang thing today,actually(for the first time).

Forever forzen in endless sleep (materia state - sleeping forest)
Glow from the earth holding me (forest - earth)
A cause of destruction and disease (it bangs stuff up-[b] actually, its attack it Tetra Disaster-disaster=this line )
A World of blue shealters me (Tetra is a type of fish.fish live in the sea,or ocean.water in general.also,the blue tints of the forest)
The elements make up everythig (it's a composite of elements)
At first you may pay me no mind (it looks like a leaf at first, inconspicuous)
But I shall become yours in due time (i happened to miss this blasted thing so many times i cant begin to count)

ForeverZeroUltima
04-05-2004, 02:00 AM
and now it's princeofdarknez turn.....man, i can't seem to get any of these -.-'

-N-
04-05-2004, 08:20 AM
Haiku-style.

Hold still and listen.
What? No! That's not what I said!
You'll get yourself killed.

What did I tell you?
You came close but fell just short.
At least he still lives...

This one is either ridiculously easy or ridiculously hard. I'll drop hints if necessary.

Lord Xehanort
04-05-2004, 10:07 AM
Cloud about to kill Aeris but being interrupted by his party only to have Sephy kill her?

PhoenixAsh
04-05-2004, 01:48 PM
All apart from the last two lines remind me of Barret's instruction during the Scorpion Guard fight.

-N-
04-05-2004, 11:40 PM
No, and no. The Scorpion fight is a good guess, though.

Like a haiku, all the lines are significant.

PhoenixAsh
04-05-2004, 11:57 PM
It's been a long time since I played this, but I'm getting a thought about either Cloud wanting to join Soldier, or something to do with Mount Nibel. I'm probably way off though.

-N-
04-06-2004, 08:40 AM
Both your thoughts are rather far off, but one of them may lead to something fruitful.

one_winged_angel
04-06-2004, 10:45 AM
I know this is nowhere near the right answer but I keep thinking it and it won't go away until I post it. I keep thinking of when Cloud falls from the no.5 reactor.

PhoenixAsh
04-06-2004, 02:11 PM
Hmmm this may be a tad abstract, but I'll run with my Mount Nibel idea, and guess at the scene where Sephiroth takes Jenova from the reactor.

Hold still and listen. (At this point Seph believes Jenova is his mother, this is a very parenty line)
What? No! That's not what I said! (Jenova hasn't quite got control of Seph at this point)
You'll get yourself killed. (He takes Cloud on wounded)

What did I tell you? (Cloud wins)
You came close but fell just short. (The rescue was almost a success, but he literally falls into the lifestream)
At least he still lives... (He still lives....)

-N-
04-07-2004, 08:09 AM
Yeah - a tad too abstract. Good thinking though - this is more along the lines of imagined conversation rather than actual conversation. Although no one is really close at all to anything yet, the system that will lead you there seems to be present.




Try the other thought. See where it leads you.

SeeDRankLou
04-07-2004, 11:14 PM
*Shot in the dark* Cait Sith solving the puzzle in the Temple of Ancients

Hold still and listen. (Cloud explaining the situation)
What? No! That's not what I said! (Cloud objecting to Cait Sith's want)
You'll get yourself killed (Cait Sith will be crushed)

What did I tell you? (Cait Sith is crushed)
You came close but fell just short. (They get the black materia, but Cloud gives it to Sephiroth)
At least he still lives... (Here comes another Cait Sith)

Maxico
04-08-2004, 01:00 PM
maybe when clouds hanging of the bridge and he falls down into the church?

one_winged_angel
04-08-2004, 07:35 PM
maybe when clouds hanging of the bridge and he falls down into the church?

Surely that's exactly what I said a couple of posts back...

-N-
04-09-2004, 02:09 AM
maybe when clouds hanging of the bridge and he falls down into the church?

Surely that's exactly what I said a couple of posts back...

Yeah... it's still not right.

SRL - You're using the right type of thinking, just where you're starting is completely off.

Looks like it's time for a hint.
There are three involved: "I", "you", and "he".

That might not help much - but I'll be sure to give more hints if necessary. Just find the right starting point, and you guys should have it.

Maxico
04-09-2004, 11:21 AM
sorry I speed read, but not very well :( .

how about when cloud falls into the lifestream and he is alive but incapacitated. but that doesn't fit with the I,he,you part.

zacks_clone
04-09-2004, 07:30 PM
Zack Cloud and Sephiroth on their trip to clouds home town?

-N-
04-09-2004, 07:41 PM
Next hint: zacks_clone has two out of the three people correct.

(By giving a hint, I imply you are all wrong. :D)

zacks_clone
04-09-2004, 08:55 PM
Zack and cloud in the back of the truck! with the old guy!

Hold still and listen. (Old guy talking to Zack)
What? No! That's not what I said!(After Zack says he'll be a mercenary,the old man goes on about that not being it at all)
You'll get yourself killed (most likely the old mans thoughts on the mercenary bit)

What did I tell you? (Zack does die)
You came close but fell just short. (midgar,and being ever so close,but zack died before he could reach it)
At least he still lives... (clouds alive still)

-N-
04-09-2004, 10:00 PM
Congratulations - I was going to be in trouble if I needed to give another hint. Go for it.

zacks_clone
04-09-2004, 10:41 PM
Three on one
Three on two
Always there
Save before dreames come true
Seen you before
Know the type
An X runs with us
From dark of night

PhoenixAsh
04-09-2004, 10:57 PM
My initial thought is the Turks, though that X is making me think probably not.

zacks_clone
04-10-2004, 01:54 AM
correct. the X is meaning ex- as in ex turk. ex-turk= Vincent.

PhoenixAsh
04-10-2004, 04:31 PM
Nice riddle. Okay this one could be tricky, as before I'm gonna try a new style.

In the depths of a valley that watches the stars,
I lie guarding heroes from long ago wars.
My name will not help you I tell you no lie,
To solve this riddle just think what am I?

From cradle to grave the stages divide,
Then one final fight from all others unite.
But what transports the first is the question I ask,
Now remember this too so you can solve this task.

Put your answers together and ask yourself this,
For the clues should now tell you just what your quest is.
Be it high in the sky or deep down underground,
Tell me dear players just where am I found?

-N-
04-11-2004, 12:37 AM
In the depths of a valley that watches the stars,
I lie guarding heroes from long ago wars. (Seto)
My name will not help you I tell you no lie,
To solve this riddle just think what am I? (a beast, Nanaki's father)

(Seto - he is a beast)

From cradle to grave the stages divide, (Jenova birth, life, death)
Then one final fight from all others unite. (Jenova synthesis)
But what transports the first is the question I ask, (jenova's body or cargo ship)
Now remember this too so you can solve this task.

(Jenova - I'll go with being transported by jenova's body)

Put your answers together and ask yourself this,
For the clues should now tell you just what your quest is.
Be it high in the sky or deep down underground,
Tell me dear players just where am I found?

Combination of the two - closest match is the Northern Crater in Disc II. Nanaki holds the Black Materia, and Jenova's body is reunited there.

It's probably far off, but that's the best way I could think of combining the two. Or maybe I'm wrong about the first one, I'm pretty sure I'm somewhat right about the second part...

one_winged_angel
04-11-2004, 01:33 AM
Combination of the two - closest match is the Northern Crater in Disc II. Nanaki holds the Black Materia, and Jenova's body is reunited there.

You really couldn't include that in a riddle because you can choose from multiple people to give the black materia to.

If it's a location you're looking for then I would have to say out back of cosmo canyon, just because of the first verse.

zacks_clone
04-11-2004, 02:44 AM
the mountains in wutai?i cannot remember them.the ones with the faces

Maxico
04-11-2004, 11:09 AM
In the depths of a valley that watches the stars,: valleys in the game, wutai, cosmo canyon, underwater, that place with the table mountains that you need a chocobo to reach.
I lie guarding heroes from long ago wars.: red 13's dad most probable, other possabilitys include the man who gives you aeires weapon or limit (I forget), or the plane underwater, or hades which I think is found in the plane which would tie in with the from long ago wars part.
My name will not help you I tell you no lie,
To solve this riddle just think what am I?: A statue?, A old man?, A Plane?, A god?

From cradle to grave the stages divide,; Life?, probably jenova.
Then one final fight from all others unite.: Again probably jenova
But what transports the first is the question I ask,. If it is hades then the plane.
Now remember this too so you can solve this task.

Put your answers together and ask yourself this,: God+jenova+plane
For the clues should now tell you just what your quest is.
Be it high in the sky or deep down underground,.: Ties in with the plane.
Tell me dear players just where am I found? Ok this is a little bit confusing for me and I lost it about half way through but the only thing

I think the answer could be space or the sky. God = heaven, jenova = came from space, plane flys in the sky.

Well I know Im waaay of but thats seriously all I can think of. This is confusing :mad:

PhoenixAsh
04-11-2004, 11:16 AM
princeofdarknez got the right thinking perfectly, falling just short but in several places. I'll give the hint that Seto IS a hero of long ago wars, so think a bit more.

zacks_clone
04-11-2004, 02:26 PM
I am thinking afew people here. Sephiroth in the crater,or...possibly Elymarys(Aeris foster moth.cannot remember her name) husband.

PhoenixAsh
04-11-2004, 02:52 PM
Ummm, no. princeofdarknez had a lot of the elements to solving the riddle, some parts near bang on, though the final answer is way off.

I'd probably recommend approaching the riddle from scratch though rather than trying to pick right from wrong too much. Also don't think too hard about the first two parts, as this is three riddles in one I tried to keep them simple (ish).

one_winged_angel
04-11-2004, 03:37 PM
In the depths of a valley that watches the stars,
I lie guarding heroes from long ago wars.
My name will not help you I tell you no lie,
To solve this riddle just think what am I?

This makes me think that the answer is stone. Seto is petrified and it asks what he is so I would say stone, rock etc.

From cradle to grave the stages divide,
Then one final fight from all others unite.
But what transports the first is the question I ask,
Now remember this too so you can solve this task.

I think that POD was right with the Jenova thing but the thing that transports Jenova I would say is more likely to be Sephiroth as he carries her everywhere.

Put your answers together and ask yourself this,
For the clues should now tell you just what your quest is.
Be it high in the sky or deep down underground,
Tell me dear players just where am I found?

But I'm not sure how I could link these two together. I can only really think that stone is referring to the northern crater and Sephiroth is obviously the Sephiroths you fight there...............

Unless stone is referring to meteor?

Skogs
04-11-2004, 03:46 PM
Here's my two cents.

What is the most prominent thing when you see Seto petrified? The moon, stars.

Then, what transports Jenova Birth? A ship.

Moon+ship = rocket.

Rocket Town?

one_winged_angel
04-11-2004, 03:59 PM
Good but I don't think that complies with the "To solve this riddle just think what am I?" in the first verse

Skogs
04-11-2004, 04:04 PM
Other possibilities for guardians of long-lost heroes:

Gi-Nattak?
Stingers?

:confused:

Maxico
04-11-2004, 04:10 PM
He already said seto was the right answer and it says what transports the first question and I can think of anything that would transport seto, unless its a metaphorical thing, or its transporting stone.
then the other one might be the ghost thing in cosmo canyon.
aww Im too confused.

zacks_clone
04-11-2004, 04:16 PM
i have been thinking ancient forest for the oddest of resons

Skogs
04-11-2004, 04:30 PM
He already said seto was the right answer

Nah. Seto IS a hero of long-ago wars. We are looking for what guards heroes of long-ago wars. Bugenhagen, maybe?

I think the 'first' is referring to the first stage of Jenova. Otherwise, what would the point of referring to Jenova be?


i have been thinking ancient forest for the oddest of resons

Why's that?

zacks_clone
04-11-2004, 05:26 PM
the stary sky.no,but honestly,i believe the planet now.

why the ancient forest?I honestly dont know.

PhoenixAsh
04-11-2004, 06:31 PM
Skogs has been VERY close to getting the solution, with some of his ideas.

Maxico by a twisted logic also stumbled onto something.

I'll leave it open for a little bit before giving a hint.

-N-
04-11-2004, 08:24 PM
In the depths of (Cosmo Canyon)
I lie guarding (Seto).
My name will not help you I tell you no lie,
To solve this riddle just think what am I?
(Bugenhagen guards Seto's resting place - he is old, dead even)

(JENOVA Birth, Life, Death),
(JENOVA Synthesis).
But what transports the first is the question I ask, (Cargo Ship)
(Answer to part 2).

Put your answers together and ask yourself this,
For the clues should now tell you just what your quest is.
Be it high in the sky or deep down underground,
Tell me dear players just where am I found?

Answer 1 - old or dead
Answer 2 - a ship
Answer 3 = 1+2 = old, dead, ship = Ghost Ship
Location of Answer 3 = Junon Underwater Reactor

Maybe?

PhoenixAsh
04-11-2004, 08:38 PM
Well I was thinking Gi Nattak for the first part, but yup, perfect answer. Go ahead princeofdarknez!

-N-
04-11-2004, 09:11 PM
Hmm... I see how you meant Gi Nattak, but I couldn't construe him as guarding Seto. It all lead to the same answer though, so I guess it works out anyways. Nice riddle, though - it rhymed and everything! :D

It took me a while to think of a good one - I scrapped two potentials. A simple, short three-liner - you'll either get it right off the bat or be stumped for some time. Good luck!

It's simple, no really.
First do five, then do three.
You really shouldn't pay me.

GaV
04-11-2004, 09:25 PM
bah i havn't done this in a while but from reading your riddle for a split second my first thought is yuffie....dunno why heh

PhoenixAsh
04-11-2004, 10:35 PM
*Takes most abstract shot ever*

A trick in the crater to get duplicates of items on one of the paths to Sephiroth?

zacks_clone
04-11-2004, 11:42 PM
Barret,Aeris,Tifa,Red,and Cloud(5) when the leave sector 7 and split into a group of 3(any three) and cloud happens to be a mercenary,looking for money

-N-
04-11-2004, 11:44 PM
Whoa, all way off. It's actually quite literal - once again, the only issue is where to start.

Skogs
04-12-2004, 12:56 AM
If you defeat the enemies on all five rail cars, then enter the three controls in the engine car, you don't need to pay the guy in Corel for the Ultima materia?

Am I warm?

-N-
04-12-2004, 02:37 AM
Uhh... no, not even close. But at least you're trying to take it literally.

If nothing's warming up by tonight, I'll probably drop a hint. I like these things to go fast.

-N-
04-14-2004, 07:59 AM
Umm... I guess since the most recent VB posts got deleted, I'll post what I remember of the thread. SRL got my riddle correct - the answer was "the Mog House game where the person behind you pays 30 GP". It's his/her turn to riddle now.

PhoenixAsh
04-14-2004, 11:23 AM
Actually we've been through that, we're now up to one from me, I don't know if any answers were put forward though. I think it went like this..

Though measures extreme against party decorations,
They get the job done fighting alien invasions.
For the best of the best will reap the rewards,
Espescially if they fear the rain more than enemy swords.

Skogs
04-14-2004, 06:21 PM
Speed Square at the Golden Saucer.


If I'm right, someone else go ahead and make up a riddle. I'm useless.

PhoenixAsh
04-14-2004, 06:27 PM
You are, and go ahead whoever turns up.

SeeDRankLou
04-14-2004, 11:15 PM
Here's a really easy one so that someone else can get it and make a riddle.

Tired of attacking once per turn?
Is twice attacking what you yearn,
Maybe even four attacks if you can learn?
Then equip me :)

So, you know you got it right, go ahead and make another riddle.

Maxico
04-14-2004, 11:18 PM
EDIT: aww dammit somebody beat me to it.

Im guessing quadra magic materia

-N-
04-15-2004, 09:22 AM
Double Cut Materia.

I'm drunk right now, so I'll make an easy riddle. Or maybe its hard. I dunno.

Rock, paper, scissors!
Well, actually, its not quite that.
Although its usually luck, not skill,
For some reason, it gets harder each time.

PhoenixAsh
04-15-2004, 01:58 PM
The fighting game in Wonder Square.

-N-
04-16-2004, 05:44 PM
Yep. There's a trend to my stuff - I need to mix it up. Anyways, go ahead.

PhoenixAsh
04-16-2004, 06:32 PM
I can't think right now, someone else go, if I get back before someone else gets here I'll try and come up with one.

DMKA
04-16-2004, 08:21 PM
You find me after a small fee...
Of sacrifice to obtain me...
Only to be...
Stolen from he...
And while there are many of thee...
You can equip them but not me.

PhoenixAsh
04-16-2004, 09:06 PM
The black materia?

DMKA
04-16-2004, 09:09 PM
O_______O Yes!

Your turn.

PhoenixAsh
04-16-2004, 09:43 PM
Woohoo! And... Dammit! I'm tired of making these up at the minute, but okay. I'm going with a (semi) new style again, and I'm not gonna make this easy. You might get it quickly, you might not.

Carried past a serpent on much faster feet,
Fall from a bridge and land like from God,
A fight in the depths of a ship as it sails,
Burn out of town on two wheels and three,
Bring down a reactor and get out in time,
You help a young girl who has just lost her breathe.

First of the first,
Then second of second,
And son so forth,
Till the answer is beckoned.

Kirobaito
04-16-2004, 09:54 PM
The Cetra?

Carried past a serpent on much faster feet, (Sephiroth carried Jenova, I guess)
Fall from a bridge and land like from God, (fall into Aeris' church)
A fight in the depths of a ship as it sails, (you fight Jenova in the ship)
Burn out of town on two wheels and three, (I dunno)
Bring down a reactor and get out in time, (you find Aeris after the first mission)
You help a young girl who has just lost her breathe. (" " " ")

PhoenixAsh
04-16-2004, 10:19 PM
Not even close, here's a hint, you won't get it by only using half the riddle.

Kirobaito
04-16-2004, 10:23 PM
Well, the riddle made sense with the Cetra as the answer. :)

DMKA
04-16-2004, 10:26 PM
I'm thinking it has something to do with Cloud.

zacks_clone
04-16-2004, 10:27 PM
AVALANCH?

one_winged_angel
04-16-2004, 10:43 PM
I can get something from each line but I don't know how to put it together, maybe somebody else can get it from this.

Carried past a serpent on much faster feet, (past the Midgar Zolom on a chocobo)
Fall from a bridge and land like from God,(Fall from reactor 5 and fall into a church)
A fight in the depths of a ship as it sails,(Engine room of cargo ship against Jenova)
Burn out of town on two wheels and three,(bust out of Shinra building on a motorbike and in a van)
Bring down a reactor and get out in time,(set the bomb and escape the reactor)
You help a young girl who has just lost her breathe.(I'm thinking when you stop to help Jessie, I guess that would fit best)

Kirobaito
04-16-2004, 10:47 PM
Perhaps the last part means words or letters. The first letter of the first word, then second letter of second word, or first word of first line, and so on. But it doesn't seem to fit.

one_winged_angel
04-16-2004, 10:50 PM
hmm.... Nice maybe its words, letters or lines :mog: It's confusing either way

Skogs
04-16-2004, 10:56 PM
A thought I'd try taking the first word of the first line, then second of the second line and so on... but that didn't make sense (it gave: carried from in town and who).

I notice that the events aren't in chronological order, so I rearrange them:

Bring down a reactor and get out in time, (first attack on Mako reactor in Midgar)
Fall from a bridge and land like from God, (falling into Aeris' church)
Burn out of town on two wheels and three, (leaving Midgar on motorbike and truck, big flame thing)
Carried past a serpent on much faster feet, (catch a chocobo to escape Midgar Zolom)
You help a young girl who has just lost her breathe. (rescue the girl in Junon)
A fight in the depths of a ship as it sails (fight Jenove Birth on ship)

I tried the 'first word of the first line, then second of the second line and so on' thing again... but it still didn't make sense (bring from of serpent girl ship).

But then I thought 'no, he couldn't mean letters - he wouldn't be THAT devious'.

I tried it anyway:
Bring...
Fall...
Burn...
Carried...
You help...
A fight...

...Barret?

one_winged_angel
04-16-2004, 10:59 PM
Ouch......................*Head implodes*
Congratulations either way; if it's correct.

zacks_clone
04-16-2004, 11:08 PM
...oh....i loath you for your cleaverness

PhoenixAsh
04-16-2004, 11:44 PM
I must say Skogs I am VERY impressed you got that so quickly, your turn extremely well deserved :D.

Skogs
04-16-2004, 11:51 PM
Sometimes you get lucky. For ages I thought I was barking up the wrong tree.

Gimme a bit of time to think of something. Gimme a half hour or so.

PhoenixAsh
04-16-2004, 11:56 PM
Just to point out the reason I put them not in chronological order was because otherwise there wouldn't be any FF knowledge required to get the answer. Just in case anyone thought I was being cruel :P.

one_winged_angel
04-17-2004, 12:02 AM
Sometimes you get lucky. For ages I thought I was barking up the wrong tree.

Gimme a bit of time to think of something. Gimme a half hour or so.

No! I can't wait that long! Over here it's already past midnight!

Skogs
04-17-2004, 12:06 AM
I draw strength from your life,
But this strength is not free,
You will know me as the last,
But it's the first that you seek.

Dunno how obvious this is... I'm better at solving them then thinking of them. :tongue:

one_winged_angel
04-17-2004, 12:12 AM
The first line reminds me of Ultima weapon... But I don't know what isn't free about it, unless you're talking about the price being that it gets weaker if you do....

Where as the second half of the riddle reminds me of Sephiroth clones and RedXIII. You know him to be #13, but it's #1 i.e Sephiroth that you're after.... I hope one of those is right...

Skogs
04-17-2004, 12:15 AM
It's too early to start giving out hints yet! :p I won't say anything!

EDIT:// I'm going to bed soon, though, so if it's not got soon you'll have to wait until tomorrow!

one_winged_angel
04-17-2004, 12:17 AM
So I'm guessing I wasn't right then.... Could you at least say if one of them is on the right track? pweeeeeaaazzeee!

Skogs
04-17-2004, 12:18 AM
I'll say that you need to look at the whole riddle.

PhoenixAsh
04-17-2004, 12:21 AM
Hmmm, this may be a good guess or a stupid guess, it depends if the first reactor is the highest numbered one in Midgar, if it is it's my guess.

I draw strength from your life, (Power taken from the lifestream)
But this strength is not free, (Shinra use it commercially, also it harms the planet)
You will know me as the last, (If it's the highest numbered sector this makes sense)
But it's the first that you seek. (It's the first goal you have)

Skogs
04-17-2004, 12:22 AM
Good idea, but no.

zacks_clone
04-17-2004, 02:27 AM
I draw strength from your life,(spirits going to the lifestream/aeris going to the planet through lifestream as spirit)
But this strength is not free,(having to kill her,not keep her alive)
You will know me as the last,(a clone)
But it's the first that you seek.(the original)

Sephiroths Plan to become a god,by having metor hit the planet,killing all the people,and thus having the planet heal itself.

Skogs
04-17-2004, 02:29 AM
Nope. Miles off track. I'm looking for something very specific.

o_w_a had a good idea...

PhoenixAsh
04-17-2004, 11:27 AM
Well if one of his answers was right then I was gonna say Ultima Weapon with a full (though abstract) explanation.

Maxico
04-17-2004, 11:53 AM
the shrouded clones in nibleheim.

They get strength from the jenova cells
but they have to go back to the crater where they are absorbed by jenova
they are numbered
and sephiroth who you are chasing is the first.

Skogs
04-17-2004, 01:32 PM
PhoenixAsh: I said one of his answers was on the right track - I didn't say it was right. Read the last two lines of the riddle...

PhoenixAsh
04-17-2004, 02:24 PM
Oh I know, I didn't think you'd be that harsh, that's why I didn't give my explanation for it being Ultima Weapon.

Iceglow
04-17-2004, 02:49 PM
it's the guy in the entrance to the golden square place who changes the gil for gp the easiest way to earn the cash.

Skogs
04-17-2004, 03:05 PM
Err... nope.

Ultima Weapon is part of the riddle, but its not the answer. Look at the last two lines.

-N-
04-18-2004, 03:29 AM
I'll go with Buster Sword.

I draw strength from your life, (Ultima Weapon depends on HP)
But this strength is not free, (as HP down, strength down, MP/items spent to build it up again... etc.)
You will know me as the last, (It is an ULTIMATE weapon - so it is the last)
But it's the first that you seek. (First - initial equipment => Buster Sword)

So, Buster Sword.

If this is indeed the answer, I'd say you drew a close line there - it could easily be construed to mean Yuffie or Cait Sith's initial equipment as well. Fortunately, Buster Sword's description is "initial equiping [sic]", so that works as well.

zacks_clone
04-18-2004, 04:31 AM
i certainly would never have thought of that for a guess

Skogs
04-18-2004, 11:16 AM
BINGO. Buster Sword it is. Your go! :tongue:

(The site I checked said that Conformer got a powerup if the enemy was strong, and that Cait Sith's weapon was MP-based. It may well have been wrong. But yeah, I'll cover my ass by saying that Buster Sword is the first weapon in the game. So there. :D )

ForeverZeroUltima
04-18-2004, 09:53 PM
BINGO. Buster Sword it is. Your go! :tongue:

(The site I checked said that Conformer got a powerup if the enemy was strong, and that Cait Sith's weapon was MP-based. It may well have been wrong. But yeah, I'll cover my ass by saying that Buster Sword is the first weapon in the game. So there. :D )

actually...

Cloud's Ultima Weapon and Cait Sith's HP Shout: based on HP
Red XIII's Limited Moon and Cid's Venus Harpoon: based on MP
Yuffie's Conformer: based on enemy's toughness/level
Vincent's Death Penalty: based on how many enemies he's killed with it
Tifa's Premium Heart: based on her LIMIT bar
Barret's Missing Score: based on how many MASTERED materia he has equipped on it
and i don't know about Aeris's weapon ;)

but in any case, go ahead and riddle, princeofdarknessez

-N-
04-19-2004, 12:27 AM
Aeris's weapon powers up when an ally is in critical or wounded condition.

There are a few ways to go about solving this. I think it's fairly obvious, but I could be wrong. I'll supply hints along the way if necessary.

I am the music that plays, you know
When the inversion of my numbers returns home.
Not necessarily said inversion's theme,
but a variation on it, I believe.

zacks_clone
04-19-2004, 01:03 AM
reunion?

Dearest Tragedy
04-19-2004, 01:20 AM
Is it the Cosmo Canyon theme, which is a variation on Red XIII's theme? On the 3rd disc of the soundtrack it's the 1st track; the numbers 3 and 1 being inverted from the 13 in Red XIII's name.

-N-
04-19-2004, 03:39 AM
That's it.

Dearest Tragedy
04-19-2004, 04:52 AM
This one might be easy compared to the last few riddles:

Two go together, though one resists,
Both as ones who don't exist.
He determines what's in store,
She's the one from three before.
Choosing her is the "correct" path,
But choose her foe and you'll face her wrath.

-N-
04-19-2004, 07:36 AM
I think its a monster. Or a pair of monsters, rather. One monster executes commands while one doesn't (resists, even). They can be distinguished by gender. If you attack the female, that's what you should do, but if you attack the other, bad news. Or those last two lines could just indicate that they are monsters, and that if you side with them, that's good, but if you don't, you face their wrath - you fight them.

But I can't think of anything that fits this description. Bah.

Dearest Tragedy
04-19-2004, 01:11 PM
Nope, sorry.

Iceglow
04-19-2004, 02:30 PM
for some reason I blame the code it showed the riddle as being something totally different to what it was last time that is the explanation for my wayy off answer.

As for this one something to do with elena from the turks??

zacks_clone
04-19-2004, 05:42 PM
thats what i believe too,fallen angel. Attack Ellena in the slum fight on disk two.Your last real fight with the turks. She the female in the group of three males(now two,sense tesengs death).

PhoenixAsh
04-19-2004, 06:36 PM
If it's not Elena I'll guess Tifa.

Two go together, though one resists, (Cloud and Tifa, Cloud doesn't know his feelings)
Both as ones who don't exist. (Both act as if their past is different)
He determines what's in store, (It's Cloud's call as to their relationship, and he's the leader)
She's the one from three before. (If this was five I'd have gone with years since they were together, but I can't quite fit this)
Choosing her is the "correct" path, (Aeris isn't gonna be a lasting relationship)
But choose her foe and you'll face her wrath. (Tifa gets upset in the Temple when Cait is talking).

Iceglow
04-19-2004, 06:39 PM
I say elena cause you fight the turks 3 times before the fight that zacks clone mentioned but yeah I still say elnena of the turks

Dearest Tragedy
04-19-2004, 08:11 PM
Nope, neither Elena nor Tifa have anything to do with the riddle.

The "Two go together" in the first line refers to both characters literally going somewhere.

zacks_clone
04-19-2004, 08:31 PM
Two go together, though one resists,(cloud and aeris escaping church)
Both as ones who don't exist.(the one who doesnt excist is zack)
He determines what's in store,(cloud tossing barrels?)
She's the one from three before.(not sure here. three parents?)
Choosing her is the "correct" path,(aeris is usual thought of as the good girl,tifa the bad)
But choose her foe and you'll face her wrath.(the aeris Vs. tifa)

Aeris and Cloud?

SeeDRankLou
04-19-2004, 10:01 PM
Are you talking about when Cloud goes on the date and they go to the Event Square and they perform the play with the other actors?

Two go together, though one resists, (Cloud doesn't want to go onstage)
Both as ones who don't exist. (They are both acting)
He determines what's in store, (Cloud makes several choices through the play)
She's the one from three before. (The date's character is Rosa, lead female from FFIV, three FFs prior to FFVII)
Choosing her is the "correct" path, (You should save your date)
But choose her foe and you'll face her wrath. (If not, she'll slap/punch you)

Dearest Tragedy
04-19-2004, 10:57 PM
That's it, SRL.

zacks_clone
04-19-2004, 11:25 PM
:: mutters :: i knew that...

haha,no i didnt. good job SRL

SeeDRankLou
04-19-2004, 11:45 PM
Thanks zacks_clone. :D

To walk on all fours,
A sound you might endure.
And you'd feel a little better,
Without potions, or even cure.

ForeverZeroUltima
04-20-2004, 01:41 AM
*wild, random guess*

Lunatic High?

SeeDRankLou
04-20-2004, 04:35 AM
Not even close.

Wow......this thread has 500 posts.