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Flying Mullet
02-24-2004, 10:42 PM
Okay, I was playing Xenogears the other day, and this face still makes no sense to me:

http://forums.eyesonff.com/images/avatars/0/4/grahf.gif

What direction is he looking, is that yellow thing an eye, where is his chin, etc...? This face doesn't make sense to me at all.

crono_logical
02-24-2004, 11:23 PM
I want to know what that blob thing on the right is :p

Kawaii Ryűkishi
02-25-2004, 12:41 AM
He's facing to the right. Yes, the yellow thing is his eye. His chin is at the curving horizontal white band. The "blob" on the right is an ornament hanging from his helmet.

crono_logical
02-25-2004, 01:54 PM
It looks like something coming out of his nose to me though :p

Kawaii Ryűkishi
02-25-2004, 06:14 PM
That's not his nose. His helmet has two cones extending horizontally from his head. Think Ghaleon.

Flying Mullet
02-25-2004, 06:16 PM
I'm thinking that this guy is in need of a serious makeover.

The Man
02-25-2004, 06:21 PM
You and me both. For whatever reason, Grahf's appearance has never made sense to me.

Kawaii Ryűkishi
02-25-2004, 06:37 PM
It is so very simple. :aimsad:

Flying Mullet
02-25-2004, 06:37 PM
Simply horrid

The Man
02-25-2004, 06:38 PM
I'd probably be able to make more sense of it if I could see a drawing of all of Grahf, rather than just his face. For whatever reason, the lack of a context is ridiculously frustrating.

Of course, the best solution is probably just for me to play Xenogears, which I plan on doing (eventually).

Flying Mullet
02-25-2004, 06:38 PM
True, the bottom of his chin looks like the top of his mouth and upper teeth to me. The cropping on his face is very confusing.

Kawaii Ryűkishi
02-25-2004, 06:56 PM
Originally posted by The Man
I'd probably be able to make more sense of it if I could see a drawing of all of Grahf, rather than just his face. For whatever reason, the lack of a context is ridiculously frustrating.http://guardian.leamonde.net/shrines/grahf/pics/grahf-design04.jpg (http://guardian.leamonde.net/shrines/grahf/index.html)

Flying Mullet
02-25-2004, 06:58 PM
Okay, I can see it now. The profile shot tha they are using of him in Xenogears isn't very easy to see though. Oh well..

The Man
02-25-2004, 07:10 PM
Yeah, it makes sense to me now. Thanks, Kishi ;)

Doomgaze
03-04-2004, 07:09 AM
Maybe with a face to compare it with....

*massive spoilers*

Kawaii Ryűkishi
03-04-2004, 01:04 PM
Biggest spoiler in the game. Jeez.

Doomgaze
03-04-2004, 05:46 PM
Yeah, that one's not nearly as obvious as Id.