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Shlup
04-18-2004, 09:38 AM
The only other thread I saw on Kill Bill Vol. 2 was from before it came out, so this is for those of us who've seen it.

I just got back from seeing it about fifteen minutes ago. I thought it was fantastic, easily better than Vol. 1, even though I really liked Vol. 1.

So, what have we to say about it? I liked how it ended. I almost really didn't want her to actually Kill Bill, but I guess she kind of had to...

edczxcvbnm
04-18-2004, 05:19 PM
I liked the first one more. It wasn't because it was more action packed but I liked the mesh of different styles of film making and the way the final battle took place. Seemed much more epic.

Volume 2 was good but it seemed to play it safe rather than take some chances like Volume 1 did.

MecaKane
04-18-2004, 07:39 PM
I freaking KNEW her name was Beatrix. @_@ The beep with Oren saying it was too early, it was "beeptrix." I didn't really get the point of it, either, except for the classroom thing being funny. :) Probably just to make volume 1 seem more mysterious, like with the not showing Bill's face.

LOVED the fight with Ellie, too. :love:

Cid
04-18-2004, 08:07 PM
Very, very good. Tai Ping rocked my world.

Peegee
04-19-2004, 01:58 AM
Look at the plane ticket in vol 1.

RSL
04-19-2004, 04:58 AM
Just got back from seeing it. I think it was great. Totally different feel from Vol. 1, but that is okay. More of the same might have been a bad thing.

Sephex
04-19-2004, 05:34 PM
I liked it, but I loved the first one more. Volume 1 and 2 work well together though.

Peegee
04-19-2004, 06:58 PM
spoilers pls. Lots of them kthx

Shoyku
04-23-2004, 05:01 PM
I preferred the first one, but this one's still good. Bill's death was lame, though. I expected some <i>colossal</i> finish to the guy behind it all, but I wasn't disappointed.

Breine
04-24-2004, 11:51 AM
It was brilliant and totally fantastic! I was blown away! I loved the first one, but I think I love the second even more. Just everything about it was great and Quentin's dialogue was amazing. I can't really describe it in words...!

Advent Child
04-24-2004, 06:07 PM
I've already seen it twice :D

frr_vegeta
04-25-2004, 11:30 PM
I've already seen it twice :D

As have I. On first viewing I felt that Vol. 1 was superior. However, on my second viewing, it became obvious that Vol. 2 was indeed superior. I suggest viewing it.


As far as B.B. goes, that actress is horrid at acting like she is sleeping. Child or not.

Yamaneko
04-26-2004, 12:16 AM
I saw it and I liked it.

Tai Ping was indeed cool. I kinda felt sorry for Budd, though.

Kawaii Ryűkishi
04-26-2004, 12:46 AM
A great ending to the best movie.


But why are you guys calling Pai Mei "Tai Ping"? They said his name like a hundred times. It was written on one of the chapter title cards. :aimsad:

Yamaneko
04-26-2004, 12:57 AM
I copied Sean. :D

Sorry, kishi.

Are we to assume Elle dies? Because I'm pretty sure you can survive having your eye being pulled out. Of course that snake was in there with her, so... yeah.

Kawaii Ryűkishi
04-26-2004, 01:35 AM
I don't know if you watched the credits, but when they were drawing lines through the names of the Deadly Viper Assassination Squad (bringing to mind Bea's list seen in Vol. 1), Elle's name had a question mark drawn over it instead. I guess she might come back for Vol. 3.

Peegee
04-26-2004, 03:01 AM
The subtitles for Pai Mei/Beatrix scene wasn't accurate. Not totally anyway.

Zell's Fists of Fury
04-26-2004, 05:57 AM
I felt Budd was the best character in the movie. I really liked him.

Mr. Graves
04-26-2004, 09:10 PM
The movie was awesome, as expected. The movie cleared up a lot of things Vol. 1 left open-ended, like why Beatrix was after The Deadly Vipers in the first place, even though I really wasn't expecting any explanation. So that was cool. I was a little disappointed that Beatrix didn't kill Budd but it worked.


Are we to assume Elle dies? Because I'm pretty sure you can survive having your eye being pulled out. Of course that snake was in there with her, so... yeah.

Well, She had her right eye plucked by Pai Mei, then her other plucked by Beatrix, so she's pretty much blind. She may survive, but she'll have to be reallt lucky to get out of Budd's trailer without getting bitten by that Black Mamba.

The flim, when compared to Vol. 2, was the better half of the same movie. So when you make compare both volumes, you're comparing halves of the same flick. ;) Best to remember that.

Gotta see that at least 2 more times before the end of end of it's theatre run.

Linus
04-27-2004, 12:17 AM
<font size=3 color=orange face="comic sans ms"><img src="http://loonybob.homestead.com/files/little.gif"> My favorite part was when Kiddo got blasted in the chest. Laughter ensued.</font>

tomothy
04-30-2004, 01:28 PM
quite funny when u look at the death count of volume 1 compared to volume 2, (i think) that in volume 2 she only kills one person... bob... i mean bill.

but yeah i agree kill bill franchise kicks arse, but i liked volume 1 better.

*ETERNAL FANTASY*
04-30-2004, 04:01 PM
Pai mei is the coolest charecter...His story intrigued me....The fight with Elle was soo good....so crazy.....i have never seen two women aim for each others crotch area as much as Elle and Beatrix did...The classroom bit was funny...and it was a great contrast.....volume one had a domminante jap feel while maintaining abit of a western feel and 2 had a domminant western feel with a chinese and jap twist....

Chapter 6 should have shown the deadly viper assasins beating her up and having abit of dialouge before she got her ass kicked....you only see it in animation in volume one...and you know how the whole screen goes orange and you see her enemy....that only happened once... Bill SHOULD have put up more of a fight.....i thought he was all about the oldschool stuff...not dissapointed though....

i love the music by the way....

i loved volume 2....got me thirsty for more movies....

Ouch!
04-30-2004, 06:16 PM
I thought the first won was good, but the second one blew me away. It was still driven by violence, but I felt it had a bit more of a plot behind it, though the battles still rocked.

Pai Mei was freakin' awesome, I was upset when I found out that Elle had killed him.

At first I got the impression that Beatrix and Bill weren't going to fight at all. I wasn't disappointed with the ending though,I thought it was great that the one thing Pai Mei refused to teach Bill turned out to be his downfall.

Teek
04-30-2004, 11:36 PM
I would have preferred this movie had it been connected to Volume One, as had been intended. I heard that Tarantino is planning that merge for a small, theatre release - before releasing "Kill Bill", composed of both volumes, coming out on DVD. I can't wait; this whole "this volume is better than the other one" is getting on my nerves, considering they are the same freakin' movie.

I loved Pai Mei, and I loved Elle Driver. We can't overrule that she is probably still alive - in the ending credits, rather than cross out her name like the others, a giant question mark appears to the rightside. As for the ending to Bill - that was genius. Somehow, I knew it would happen, and I think that was the intent. By using that skill against Bill to murder him, she showed that she was the superior fighter.

I need to go rent Pulp Fiction, now. :D

*ETERNAL FANTASY*
05-01-2004, 03:50 AM
I need to go rent Pulp Fiction, now. :D

Ditto

-N-
05-01-2004, 06:48 AM
When you consider it though, each of the volumes is directed in such a different style. As some people have pointed out, Volume I is far more radical than Volume II. Volume I was much more violent, whereas Volume II was much more contemplative, the "why" moreso than the "what" and "how". I see them as separate, but connected, movies. I feel both movies would have to be radically altered in order for them to be one unit, and I feel (and I could see) Tarantino had to do a lot to separate them into two separate films, yet still keep the connection (common clips, cliffhanger ending in Vol. I, etc.).

I have to say I preferred Volume I over Volume II, but its hard to really compare and figure out why. I guess I just liked the feel of it - it was so different, and had this mystic aura around it. Everything, from the music to hiding Bill's face to the bleeps to the unanswered "Why the hell is all this happening?" question that so many movies fall into a trap trying to answer. Volume I just says "screw that question" - like a Kafka book I know of (Metamorphosis, by the way).

And the music kicked ass in both volumes, although I have Volume I's soundtrack and not Volume II, so I'm more familiar with Vol. I. Tarantino knows how to pick music - especially in Volume I, the music choices made the film feel completely out of its genre, in a good way - I remember the fight with O'Ren Ishii feeling like a boss fight from a Megaman game. It was awesome.

Um, in conclusion, the Kill Bill series freaking rocks. So, yeah. Speaking of which, when I saw Vol. II, I saw this preview for this Jet Li film that says "a film by Quentin Tarantino", but neither mentions him as producer or director. Anyone know what's up with that?

Ichy
05-01-2004, 02:15 PM
I............ over-reacted

:P

Kawaii Ryűkishi
05-01-2004, 05:34 PM
Speaking of which, when I saw Vol. II, I saw this preview for this Jet Li film that says "a film by Quentin Tarantino", but neither mentions him as producer or director. Anyone know what's up with that?That's Hero. As far as I know, Tarantino had no part in its creation and is just producing its American release.

MecaKane
05-01-2004, 11:56 PM
It says "Quentin Tarantino presents."
He did that with a few other asian movies, too.

Calliope
05-16-2004, 04:53 AM
I liked the first one better. The killing of Bill was anticlimatic and they should have been a demented happy family anyway. Vol 1 was beautiful. Vol 2 had me giggling at Elle "wait...that's not my eye, that's a snake...aw crap" and Pai Mei being made a voluntary oompa loompa.

:D

Kirobaito
05-16-2004, 05:34 AM
I just got back from seeing it today. I'd have to say that I liked Volume 1 better, but that's because it made me laugh more (with the complete utter randomness). Both were amongst the best movies I've ever seen though.

I'm wondering...what do you think Beatrix told her daughter? "Mommy made daddy's heart explode.

Calliope
05-16-2004, 08:31 AM
"I put Daddy on the carpet and then I stomped on him" :D

Shlup
05-16-2004, 09:21 AM
Haha, Nicky. xD

She probably told him the vague truth. Bill did when he explained he shot mommy in the head. Why not? xD

Kirobaito
05-16-2004, 08:38 PM
But Mommy was still alive after he shot her in the head. Daddy wasn't. :)

Was anyone else expecting a lot bloodier death for Bill? I mean, come on, the dude's heart exploded. If it was Vol. 1, blood would have started squirting out of his ears and his head would have popped off. That's what I wanted to see. :(

Peegee
05-16-2004, 08:42 PM
You guys are never happy :D

Calliope
05-17-2004, 05:46 AM
NO WE ARE NOT WE WANT A RAMPAGE OF REVENGE, NOT FIVE SMILING STEPS AND COLLAPSING PEACEFULLY LIKE A BLOODY THUNDERBIRD!

Peegee
05-17-2004, 10:34 AM
By using that skill against Bill to murder him, she showed that she was the superior fighter.

BatChao
05-17-2004, 06:46 PM
KB2 was alright at best. It just couldn't match the bar set by the first one. There was just way too little action. I was expecting for crazy fighting like in the first one, but instead, I get tiny little snippets of fighting. Overall... okay. I have a feeling if the two volumes were made into one movie, with a little editing skill, could have been really great. But seperately, it makes part 1 good and part 2 mediocre.

Zell's Fists of Fury
05-17-2004, 07:08 PM
KB2 was alright at best. It just couldn't match the bar set by the first one. There was just way too little action. I was expecting for crazy fighting like in the first one, but instead, I get tiny little snippets of fighting. Overall... okay. I have a feeling if the two volumes were made into one movie, with a little editing skill, could have been really great. But seperately, it makes part 1 good and part 2 mediocre.
IT IS ONE MOVIE FOR CRAP'S SAKE

Peegee
05-17-2004, 07:26 PM
I like fun