Swearing at EoFF

[Shlup]

Since it is an issue that should be able to be addressed, I'd like to give anyone who wants to the opportunity to discuss swearing around here in a calm and respectful matter.

I've said it before and I'll say it again: If you chose to use swear words at EoFF, which are against the rules, I will personally edit your post and make it sound like you said something goofy. Its the risk you take, as far as I'm concerned.

I don't like the thought of using th vB swear filter. Why? Editing people's posts to say things like "poopies" and "smurfy bottoms" is more fun. That's the only reason, and its a damn good one. So suck my dingle happies.

Discuss.

[Del Murder]

I agree and do the same thing. Even if the word is filtered I will go in and edit it if it is excessive. The filter not an excuse to type all the swears you want. I have a hard time hearing complaints about it because the 'just don't swear' solution is just so easy and simple.

[TasteyPies]

Mwa ha ha ha if i was a mod...

Oh yeah well you can smurfing smurf my smurf you smurf smurfers -papasmurf

[Leeza]

I agree with the above posts . (Not with TasteyPies) :)

[RSL]

It's such a simple thing to not swear. Just don't type the swear words. I don't see why certain members feel that swearing is so necessary. Or why they get mad when we edit them out of their posts. I mean, really. There are plenty of boards that swearing is allowed at, and people take advantage of it.

If you want swearing, we might as well go full out and allow flaming of other members. Throw in some porn while we're at it. That'll make this board really great.

[Shlup]

I don't know that allowing swearing would have to lead to allowing flaming and porn. Thats like saying gay marriage must lead to polygamy and marrying animals, which is an argument I detest.

I just don't like swear words is all. Well, to an extent.

[RSL]

I didn't say that one would lead to another. Although flaming often contains healthy amounts of swearing.

[Erdrick Holmes]

Well I can understand if the "F" word is not welcomed as well as a few others, but will the occasional "Damn" or "Hell" get any "nono" points?

[HOOTERS]

Why don't you just :skulling: put the skulls backs? There didn't seem to be any complaints then.

:smash:

[Agent Proto]

IF we're going to start censoring, why don't you censor "wtf" since that technically means "What the :love::love::love::love:" or something...

Also, STFU.

[Strider]

In general, I like swearing. I use it for effect, in frustration over things, you know. It just comes naturally. When I go someplace, though -- whether it's on the internet or in real life -- that doesn't condone swearing of any kind for whatever reason, it's not that hard for me to respect that rule and move on.

That's all it comes down to here. Just respect the rule and move on.

[RSL]

That's all it comes down to here. Just respect the rule and move on.

Yeah. I swear in real life. Quite a bit. But only with friends who I'm comfortable with. I wouldn't go into a crowded public place and start swearing loudly.

Think of this message board as a large, crowded public place. Sure, some people might be fine with swearing. Others aren't going to be. Respect the rule. Strider said it better than I ever could have.

[Shlup]

Joel: "Damn" and "Hell" are fine as far as I'm concerned. I, personally, have no problem with ass or bitch as long as its not excessive. I dunno about other people though.

HOOTERS: 'Cause its more fun to edit the posts... D:

Prot: When I see "wtf" or "stfu" I hear "what the frig" or "shut the frig up."

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Okay, not really but it sounded good. So are you saying that it should either be totally okay for people to say the "f word" or that we should not let people say "wtf" or "stfu"? Must we draw the line in one of those two places?

[Agent Proto]

well, if they can't say the f-word, they shouldn't be allowed to say "WTF" and "STFU" because both use the f-word in context.

Yes, it's stupid, but who knew that this thing could be such a big deal. It's really not, but yeah. Unless the staff decides to be a little more relaxed on the "****" ":love::love::love::love:" then it be ok to let wtf and stfu go. But seeing the staff basically wants the f-word to not be seen, then "WTF" and "STFU" should be censored. Not saying that I like the idea, but the concept of each has the f-word in context.

EDIT: Oh yeah, let me also add that staff should also follow their rules in the Staff Forum!! :tongue:

[Del Murder]

We don't senseor the word 'f-word' so no need to sensor 'wtf'. wtf is used so much that I think it has its own meaning and is not much associated with swearing when used in moderation.

'stfu' on the other hand is annoying and insulting and I edit it when I see it. Telling a person to shut up is not tolerated here.

Hell and damn are ok, I use them too. It's gererally accepted that they are on the lower end of offensive words.

[Shlup]

I'd say the difference between seeing "wtf" and "f***" (with censors) is this:

"F***" is something that's censored. If it is already censored, at least partially, then its safe to assume it's innapropriate. With "wtf" and "stfu" you're assuming its innapropriate only because it can be. I'm assuming you'd argue that a person who types "f***" really and truley could mean "frig" behind those astricks, but I think you know that that's a little riduculous to say.

I'm not sure if I got my point across well, so I hope you understand my point...

[Yamaneko]

Swearing is against the rules. It's a stupid cause to fight against. Swear words are often ignorant words and lead to sloppy thought on the persons part. Just don't swear and use other words in its place.

[Big D]

I'm assuming you'd argue that a person who types "f***" really and truley could mean "frig" behind those astricks, but I think you know that that's a little riduculous to say.
Either of those words is pretty bad, really. One of them has a few extra meanings that aren't so widely known.

Basically, I agree with the other mods. A very limited amount of profanity, not directed at other posters, may be allowed on occasion. However, we'll be fairly inclined to edit anything else, even if it's already "censored" by the one who posted it.

[eestlinc]

I get annoyed when people edit "ass" or "shit" out of my posts, especially since I rarely use them and when I do it's for good reason.

I do think that if staff are going to freely edit posts with swearing (or whatever else) then the forums should note when a staff member has edited the post.

[Yamaneko]

I only edit the f-word out. "Ass" and "shit" I can tolerate in moderation.

[Doomgaze]

I'm sorry, but there are no words in the English language that come close to meaning the same thing as a "metric ****ton." It's quite simply the largest quantity imaginable, and then some.

[Azure Chrysanthemum]

I just find it amusing that you disallow the actual swear word itself, but will allow acronyms and other such methods (such as a** or s***) in which most if not all people, will immediately understand what was implied. It's basically the same thing, everyone knows and will read f*** as what it was truly intended to be.

[Big D]

Lately, we've been editing or deleting 'censored' stuff, "****" and whatnot, as appropriate. Some people don't seem to like us doing that, but meh.

[Loony BoB]

I don't see a problem with wtf. STFU should NEVER be used, not because of the singular words involved but more so because you shouldn't tell anyone here to shut up.

Damn and hell are fine as long as they aren't use in an offensive manner. The only words I personally edit out are words that are directly insulting someone. If someone calls someone around here a wanker, for example, I'm gonna edit it out. Of course, I may edit people's posts out of complete boredom and power abuse.

[HOOTERS]

How about stfu PLZ???

[Loony BoB]

Then maybe I'll be more polite in my warning when I edit it out? Probably not though. =]

[Yamaneko]

How about stfu PLZ???
Only if it's directed at me.

[Citizen Bleys]

I swear like a hung-over British drill sergeant, and I like doing it. I still don't find EoFF's policy so dreadfully difficult to live with. I pretty much use the occasional "shit" when censoring it out would actually cause what I'm trying to say to lose something in translation, though. (i.e., the Oni Fenikkusu quote "People who think that they are hot shit, when they are actually just shit, are awesome")

Not that I care when staff edits even that kind of thing, either. It's usually pretty *arf*ing funny when they do. *Arf*, I started using *arf* to censor myself out after the first time Unne used it, just because I think it's funnier than *arf*.

EDIT: I still do heave a sigh of relief when I'm at a board that lets me swear as much as I want.

[Peegee]

Swearing is only useful when you are trying to convey a certain message. Since these messages are never needed to be conveyed in this forum (unless something really made you angry and for some reason you have to ruin everybody's fun by posting your thoughts), swearing is not necessary.

I would like a swear filter which changes swear words into fun words. If you don't have that then whatever. I won't swear in threads unless I just absent-mindedly forget.

poo sex

[Kirobaito]

I don't mind swearing, but I understand if people do. I try not to, but I do let the occassional "damn" slip. I don't even believe that "hell" is a swear word.

Doesn't really matter to me.

[Kitsune]

Swearing is a way of life these days.. why bother editing out these words?

[eestlinc]

well, the owner of the forums says it isn't allowed so that's pretty much how it is.

[Calliope]

I thought "stfu" meant "stuff you" ;_____;

[HOOTERS]

Yeah I thought that for a while too. :smash: I also thought wtf meant where's the futon? I had to keep telling people I didn't have one. :cry:

[Peegee]

stfu = stoofu

I vote that we make swear words and swear acronyms fun words.

[crono_logical]

Stuff You is better anyway :p

[Peegee]

I blame me being chinese for not appreciating stuff you.

[Shlup]

I thought "stfu" meant "stuff you" ;_____;I thought that for a long time too. xD

[Linus]

Has this thread turned into mindless spam yet, like all the other Feedback threads? :D

[Casey]

I love the *snip* swear filter. :p Swearing is bad, and ass or bitch isnt a swear word, IMO. *snip* Its better then those skulls :thumb:. Internet lingo like 'stfu' shouldnt be filtered cuz there are some ppl who think its dumb, and so not ''offensive''.

Why is it that some people feel the need to swear whenever a thread about swearing comes up? Filter or not, don't swear unnecessarily. ~ Leeza

Wow you guys cant take a joke, sensitive people here...

[Big Ogre Umaro]

You guys have to understand that this is the Internet. The Internet was invented to give twelve year olds a place to call each other :love::love::love::love:ing assholes. That's just reality.




:)

[Strider]

The fact remains that you can't change the way certain things are around here. I'm pretty sure no amount of debate on the matter of swearing is going to change Cid's mind about allowing swearing.

EDIT: I just thought of this. You should add the issue of swearing to the "Things You'll Be Made Fun Of For Asking" thread. That should set a lot of things straight.

[Big Ogre Umaro]

The fact remains that you can't change the way certain things are around here. I'm pretty sure no amount of debate on the matter of swearing is going to change Cid's mind about allowing swearing.

EDIT: I just thought of this. You should add the issue of swearing to the "Things You'll Be Made Fun Of For Asking" thread. That should set a lot of things straight.
Your kung-fu is strong.

[Ouch!]

I don't see what's the big deal, or even need for an arguement. If the administration doesn't want to allow swearing, then just don't swear. And if you find the need to, prepare to accept the consequences. I don't know what's so hard about eliminating acouple words from your vocabulary while you're posting here.

[m4tt]

I don't see what's the big deal, or even need for an arguement. If the administration doesn't want to allow swearing, then just don't swear. And if you find the need to, prepare to accept the consequences. I don't know what's so hard about eliminating acouple words from your vocabulary while you're posting here.

Somebody give this man a gold star.

[Strider]

Somebody give this man a gold star.

That's all it comes down to here. Just respect the rule and move on.

*coughs loudly*

[m4tt]

You don't get one, you giants fan you.


( :love: )

[Strider]

stfu then :love:

[Leeza]

*gives Zaphier 5 gold stars*

[Peegee]

I don't get the idea of a public discussion. Why not just make all decisions by means of a public (democratic) vote? We'll vote whether or not to have admins, have swear filters, have a porn forum, and whatever. It's all in the interest of what, free discourse?

I like things the way they are. If you made swearing a bunch of skulls, fine. If you replaced @!?#> with stoofu or stuff you or :love: :love: :love: :love: or sars, who cares? I wouldn't. Just post and have fun!

[Ariel]

I thought "stfu" meant "stuff you" ;_____;

I used to think that. I like "stuff you" better. =(

It's not that difficult to just... not swear on the board. A lot of people have said it better above, so, what they said. *thumbs up*

[eestlinc]

someone should make a clone of eoff except allow swearing and see how the two diverge over time.

[crono_logical]

Isn't that what eoffff is for? :p

[Doomgaze]

EOffFF is also used for experimental cricket and tumbleweed research.

[Baloki]

If I swear, which I don't think is too often then I don't mind it being edited out, as long as the person who does it changes it to something like CHICKENS! or NOODLES!!!?! or even CHOCOBOS!